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Post by specialun on Mar 9, 2019 20:15:17 GMT 1
Where is he / she?
They need to be in place NOW
The Board need to learn the big lesson from this season
I don’t mean the underinvestment in the summer
I don’t mean stupid statements with nothing to bank them up
Or lack of investment in January
I mean don’t wait until the end of May to appoint the man to do our transfer business
David Moss left in October 17
He was replaced end of May 18
That (together with a lack of investment) was crucial to the shambolic transfer window
Fail to prepare, prepare to fail
We did just that
Hoyle, Winter, Jarvis, Hough, Burnley, Byrant - Learn from your mistakes.
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Post by dugnet on Mar 9, 2019 20:24:30 GMT 1
Where is he / she? They need to be in place NOW The Board need to learn the big lesson from this season I don’t mean the underinvestment in the summer I don’t mean stupid statements with nothing to bank them up Or lack of investment in January I mean don’t wait until the end of May to appoint the man to do our transfer business David Moss left in October 17 He was replaced end of May 18 That (together with a lack of investment) was crucial to the shambolic transfer window Fail to prepare, prepare to fail We did just that Hoyle, Winter, Jarvis, Hough, Burnley, Byrant - Learn from your mistakes. There's a lot of truth in this, we certainly need to demonstrate we have a clear plan for next season. |
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Post by terrier66 on Mar 9, 2019 21:17:19 GMT 1
To me looks like we've been on downward spiral ever since stuart webber left for Norwich , wish we were in the position Norwich are in now
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 21:17:22 GMT 1
It’s David Wagner.
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Post by impact on Mar 9, 2019 21:23:40 GMT 1
To me looks like we've been on downward spiral ever since stuart webber left for Norwich , wish we were in the position Norwich are in now We were pretty much, 2 years ago. Bet they said exactly the same last year. And they could well be saying exactly the same next year. |
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Post by townrwe on Mar 9, 2019 21:26:45 GMT 1
That would be a disaster.... |
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Mar 9, 2019 21:38:31 GMT 1
Where is he / she? They need to be in place NOW The Board need to learn the big lesson from this season I don’t mean the underinvestment in the summer I don’t mean stupid statements with nothing to bank them up Or lack of investment in January I mean don’t wait until the end of May to appoint the man to do our transfer business David Moss left in October 17 He was replaced end of May 18 That (together with a lack of investment) was crucial to the shambolic transfer window Fail to prepare, prepare to fail We did just that Hoyle, Winter, Jarvis, Hough, Burnley, Byrant - Learn from your mistakes. Sean Jarvis is Commercial director. He sells season tickets and advertising, he has nothing to do with decisions regarding player recruitment |
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Post by terrier66 on Mar 9, 2019 21:41:28 GMT 1
we've needed a competent replacement ever since webber ,and we get comments from julian winter that we've managed alright with one so why do why do we need to replace one, this just confirms what a waste of space julian winter is and has been.
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Post by specialun on Mar 9, 2019 21:43:15 GMT 1
As an aside
Webber left a club despite the positive position we were in
Moss lasted 5 months
Rebbe 7 months
All three at fault?
... maybe the board need to look a bit closer at how they operate with this role!
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Post by impact on Mar 9, 2019 21:43:55 GMT 1
Where is he / she? They need to be in place NOW The Board need to learn the big lesson from this season I don’t mean the underinvestment in the summer I don’t mean stupid statements with nothing to bank them up Or lack of investment in January I mean don’t wait until the end of May to appoint the man to do our transfer business David Moss left in October 17 He was replaced end of May 18 That (together with a lack of investment) was crucial to the shambolic transfer window Fail to prepare, prepare to fail We did just that Hoyle, Winter, Jarvis, Hough, Burnley, Byrant - Learn from your mistakes. Sean Jarvis is Commercial director. He sells season tickets and advertising, he has nothing to do with decisions regarding player recruitment He's part of the board, and the board appoints the director of football. |
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Post by specialun on Mar 9, 2019 21:48:34 GMT 1
As much as I think Jarvis has done a brilliant job in his Commercial role over a sustained period of time... I mean going back to League 1 He and the rest of the names I mentioned are Statutory Directors of THE HUDDERSFIELD TOWN ASSOCIATION FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED With that comes Director’s duties www.burges-salmon.com/news-and-insight/publications/the-responsibilities-and-duties-of-a-company-director/I’m struggling to see how the debacle of the lack of a Sporting Director meets with certain of these duties If they don’t like it then they should not be a Statutory Director |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Mar 9, 2019 21:49:08 GMT 1
Totally agree... We need to pull our finger out and get this position sorted. No excuse for these long periods with no replacements. Every penny counts so we need to stop pissing money away.
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Post by terrier66 on Mar 9, 2019 21:49:24 GMT 1
Do we need to look at clubs like Peterboro ,Coventry and even Barnsley ,look at the talent there bringing through.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 21:52:28 GMT 1
Do we need to look at clubs like Peterboro ,Coventry and even Barnsley ,look at the talent there bringing through. Barnsley are a superb example. |
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Post by terrier66 on Mar 9, 2019 22:06:51 GMT 1
Need to look at the talent in lower leagues , I like the look of grant but does our scouting network get first refusal on any exceptionally gifted young talent coming through? Wonder how much Jordan bowen from hull would cost i'd go allout and spend what we get for billing on him.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Mar 9, 2019 22:09:47 GMT 1
Need to look at the talent in lower leagues , I like the look of grant but does our scouting network get first refusal on any exceptionally gifted young talent coming through? Wonder how much Jordan bowen from hull would cost i'd go allout and spend what we get for billing on him. Ordinary fans can spot talent. |
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Post by terrier66 on Mar 9, 2019 22:14:57 GMT 1
Looks as though Liam O' Brien should get a good run in the first team next season coming on leaps and bounds at Bradford,scored today too.
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Post by Galpharmer on Mar 9, 2019 22:17:39 GMT 1
Looks as though Liam O' Brien should get a good run in the first team next season coming on leaps and bounds at Bradford,scored today too. Lewis. |
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Post by terrier66 on Mar 9, 2019 22:20:01 GMT 1
Sorry,Lewis looks a good prospect
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Post by ritchie on Mar 9, 2019 22:23:41 GMT 1
Im sure I might have had a different opinion at the time but part of me is now wondering if we'd have been better off appointing a DOF as our main concern, and appointing a permanent manager in summer.
And thats not to say it couldnt have been siewert (i'm not writing him off), but what I thought might be a good opportunity to give a new man the opportunity to asses the squad and prepare for summer, now could easily turn to 'he didnt improve us end of 18/19 so he's judged with that in mind' - which is unfair as half the players look gone...but it wont stop people using that to judge him if we get off to a shaky start
Might have been better have the new DOF do the assesing of the squad and let the manager come in without being exposed to the firing line
All in hindsight, but its a bit of a mess at the moment i've got to say
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Post by hthtafs on Mar 10, 2019 10:40:04 GMT 1
To me looks like we've been on downward spiral ever since stuart webber left for Norwich , wish we were in the position Norwich are in now Spot on ... Wagner was a great motivator and was very lucky. Webber orchestrated our success, hoyles best appointment. |
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Post by shawsie on Mar 10, 2019 12:11:38 GMT 1
To me looks like we've been on downward spiral ever since stuart webber left for Norwich , wish we were in the position Norwich are in now Spot on ... Wagner was a great motivator and was very lucky. Webber orchestrated our success, hoyles best appointment. Lucky? Every manager needs luck (ask Solskjaer) but to suggest Wagner was solely a motivator is wholly wrong imho. He professionalised the club, put a structure in place, got us promoted on a relative shoestring and then kept us up. That’s not down to luck......it’s bloody good management. His intransigence towards the end was frustrating, but if my DOF had given me Durm, mbenza, diakhaby, sobhi, and said go and improve things I’d be bloody intransigent cos none of em are anywhere near top level football on a consistent basis. |
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Post by ritchie on Mar 10, 2019 12:15:07 GMT 1
Spot on ... Wagner was a great motivator and was very lucky. Webber orchestrated our success, hoyles best appointment. Lucky? Every manager needs luck (ask Solskjaer) but to suggest Wagner was solely a motivator is wholly wrong imho. He professionalised the club, put a structure in place, got us promoted on a relative shoestring and then kept us up. That’s not down to luck......it’s bloody good management. His intransigence towards the end was frustrating, but if my DOF had given me Durm, mbenza, diakhaby, sobhi, and said go and improve things I’d be bloody intransigent cos none of em are anywhere near top level football on a consistent basis. Neither were dof signings |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 10, 2019 12:22:50 GMT 1
we've needed a competent replacement ever since webber ,and we get comments from julian winter that we've managed alright with one so why do why do we need to replace one, this just confirms what a waste of space julian winter is and has been. Is this a riddle? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 12:36:55 GMT 1
To me looks like we've been on downward spiral ever since stuart webber left for Norwich , wish we were in the position Norwich are in now Spot on ... Wagner was a great motivator and was very lucky. Webber orchestrated our success, hoyles best appointment. Jan was earmarked as Wagners successor soon after he joined us. Shall we give thanks to Webber for him too? Personally I expect him to come good. |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Mar 10, 2019 13:04:31 GMT 1
As regards a DoF, didn't we survive a whole season in the PL withouth one? But, OK - if we are to have one, then theoretically, Andreas Winkler has worked as a DoF before. Not sure how much work this entails, but I wonder whether he might be in a position to take on a dual-purpose role for next season (co-trainer/DoF) - you'd think not on the face of it, but I suppose you never really know - after all, didn't David Wagner (even as head coach) take on some of the responsibilities of a DoF to bridge the year's gap between Webber and Rebbe?
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Post by ponteterrier on Mar 10, 2019 13:12:54 GMT 1
It's possible that no-one wants the job. We seem to have gone through three fairly quick once they are in post.
At the same time it makes me wonder who is looking at signings/replacements for the summer
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Post by specialun on Mar 10, 2019 13:24:23 GMT 1
It's possible that no-one wants the job. We seem to have gone through three fairly quick once they are in post. At the same time it makes me wonder who is looking at signings/replacements for the summer Martin from Wakefield |
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Post by ponteterrier on Mar 10, 2019 13:25:07 GMT 1
It's possible that no-one wants the job. We seem to have gone through three fairly quick once they are in post. At the same time it makes me wonder who is looking at signings/replacements for the summer Martin from Wakefield He'd do a job |
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Post by specialun on Mar 10, 2019 13:31:59 GMT 1
Spot on ... Wagner was a great motivator and was very lucky. Webber orchestrated our success, hoyles best appointment. Lucky? Every manager needs luck (ask Solskjaer) but to suggest Wagner was solely a motivator is wholly wrong imho. He professionalised the club, put a structure in place, got us promoted on a relative shoestring and then kept us up. That’s not down to luck......it’s bloody good management. His intransigence towards the end was frustrating, but if my DOF had given me Durm, mbenza, diakhaby, sobhi, and said go and improve things I’d be bloody intransigent cos none of em are anywhere near top level football on a consistent basis. Agree 100% with Wagner Agree re DOF ...Except 1.I think Durm is our best full back and is an improvement at right and left back - availability was always a question, but imo has done ok for a free 2. If the DOF was only able to spend £3m - £10m on players in attacking areas what was he supposed to buy? We spent £3-5m Sobhi, £10m Diakhaby, Mbenza loan fee, sold Ince £10m. Talk all day about budgets but to spend a net £3-5m & a loan fee to improve the weakest part of the squad was downright stupid / naive / indicates people at Board level making decisions who are out of their depth Substantial underinvestment + appointment months too late = shambles and gambles |
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