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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 12:49:46 GMT 1
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Post by specialun on May 21, 2019 20:53:15 GMT 1
Webber / Wagner worked together from November 15
That gave an awful long time to work together, understand the system, find the players, get them here early etc - most in before Sweden
We gave Rebbe from the end of May to do this last season
Now, faced with a ridiculously busy and important window we haven’t appointed anyone
Siewert doesn’t need this pressure
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Post by arry11 on May 21, 2019 20:59:54 GMT 1
Webber / Wagner worked together from November 15 That gave an awful long time to work together, understand the system, find the players, get them here early etc - most in before Sweden We gave Rebbe from the end of May to do this last season Now, faced with a ridiculously busy and important window we haven’t appointed anyone Siewert doesn’t need this pressure What pressure we will be in good hands you need to stop over reacting. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 21, 2019 21:05:04 GMT 1
Webber / Wagner worked together from November 15 That gave an awful long time to work together, understand the system, find the players, get them here early etc - most in before Sweden We gave Rebbe from the end of May to do this last season Now, faced with a ridiculously busy and important window we haven’t appointed anyone Siewert doesn’t need this pressure You’re getting a bit obsessive about this DOF business now. You do realise that Dean Hoyle has confirmed one won’t be appointed until after the transfer window, don’t you? For better or worse that’s the situation. DH wouldn’t have taken that stance without reason. Personally I think one should have been appointed the same time as Siewert was, but nobody was and I can understand why they don’t want a new DOF starting right now and potentially complicating the recruitments plans I assume have been agreed to by Siewert, Hoyle and Hodgkinson. |
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Post by arry11 on May 21, 2019 21:08:49 GMT 1
Webber / Wagner worked together from November 15 That gave an awful long time to work together, understand the system, find the players, get them here early etc - most in before Sweden We gave Rebbe from the end of May to do this last season Now, faced with a ridiculously busy and important window we haven’t appointed anyone Siewert doesn’t need this pressure You’re getting a bit obsessive about this DOF business now. You do realise that Dean Hoyle has confirmed one won’t be appointed until after the transfer window, don’t you? For better or worse that’s the situation. DH wouldn’t have taken that stance without reason. Personally I think one should have been appointed the same time as Siewert was, but nobody was and I can understand why they don’t want a new DOF starting right now and potentially complicating the recruitments plans I assume have been agreed to by Siewert, Hoyle and Hodgkinson. Well said Sir. |
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Post by Town Duppy on May 21, 2019 21:21:42 GMT 1
When appointed ours will have the correct title - Director of Eeny, meeny, miny, moe.
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Post by mrg on May 21, 2019 21:41:43 GMT 1
Dean has made this clear in his video when he announced the sale. He doesn't want some Berty big bollocks coming in and screwing up 10 years hard work and the wealth of the club. We are appointing afterwards for the long term.
I hope we get another Ross Wilson or stuart webber and not what weve had since. Although the lad from Scotland who lasted about 10 minutes did get us players who kept us up for one year.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 9:48:42 GMT 1
Webber / Wagner worked together from November 15 That gave an awful long time to work together, understand the system, find the players, get them here early etc - most in before Sweden We gave Rebbe from the end of May to do this last season Now, faced with a ridiculously busy and important window we haven’t appointed anyone Siewert doesn’t need this pressure You’re getting a bit obsessive about this DOF business now. You do realise that Dean Hoyle has confirmed one won’t be appointed until after the transfer window, don’t you? For better or worse that’s the situation. DH wouldn’t have taken that stance without reason. Personally I think one should have been appointed the same time as Siewert was, but nobody was and I can understand why they don’t want a new DOF starting right now and potentially complicating the recruitments plans I assume have been agreed to by Siewert, Hoyle and Hodgkinson. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they do a U-turn on that. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 13:36:33 GMT 1
You’re getting a bit obsessive about this DOF business now. You do realise that Dean Hoyle has confirmed one won’t be appointed until after the transfer window, don’t you? For better or worse that’s the situation. DH wouldn’t have taken that stance without reason. Personally I think one should have been appointed the same time as Siewert was, but nobody was and I can understand why they don’t want a new DOF starting right now and potentially complicating the recruitments plans I assume have been agreed to by Siewert, Hoyle and Hodgkinson. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they do a U-turn on that. they wont |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 22, 2019 15:58:14 GMT 1
You’re getting a bit obsessive about this DOF business now. You do realise that Dean Hoyle has confirmed one won’t be appointed until after the transfer window, don’t you? For better or worse that’s the situation. DH wouldn’t have taken that stance without reason. Personally I think one should have been appointed the same time as Siewert was, but nobody was and I can understand why they don’t want a new DOF starting right now and potentially complicating the recruitments plans I assume have been agreed to by Siewert, Hoyle and Hodgkinson. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they do a U-turn on that. Based on what? |
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Post by tockyterrier on May 22, 2019 18:40:42 GMT 1
I thought the majority of work a tually finding players was done by Josh Marsh. The Dog was more about identifying who was out of contact, what the wage structure is of the clubs we ae competing against for their signitures. Etc. Etc and then doing the actual deal while the manager got on with coaching.
Hoyle has said he and Winter will do the deals, (not sure if they will know what other clubs are prepared to offer though.
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Post by Elioud on May 22, 2019 19:14:48 GMT 1
We did much better when Wagner was hand picking the players he wanted.
It went tits up when he ran out of contacts and could only specify he needed fast inside forwards and was given shite like Mbenza, Sobhi and Diakaby.
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Post by terrier70 on May 23, 2019 15:42:34 GMT 1
What has happened to the Director of football who signed Grant?
He seemed to know a good player at a good price!
Obviously there was nobody in place when we acquired Grant
Perhaps Dean knows that Jan has a suitable list of players he wants that do not require the DOF to oversee it
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Post by Torquayterrier on May 24, 2019 11:11:45 GMT 1
Arsene Wenger's looking for a job and he did have his last match day at our place...  |
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Post by Metch on May 25, 2019 8:00:41 GMT 1
Rumours in the Sun that Stuart Webber is being lined up for Man Utd. That would be quite a rise since leaving Town. Well deserved, success with us and Norwich, could he have the same impact at Old Trafford?
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on May 25, 2019 17:27:59 GMT 1
Let’s not forget that Siewert’s assistant was a DoF in Germany. Makes a lot of sense to leave these two to work out who they need for next season without another Prima Donna waltzing in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 11:31:58 GMT 1
Confirmed by Julian Winter the club will NOT be employing a Sporting Director.
It’s not felt to be a good fit for “a club like ours”.
A position of Head of Football Operations was advertised instead, and there are three candidates already in mind (with two other possibles)...Phil Hodgkinson, Julian, and HR Mgr will be interviewing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 12:03:05 GMT 1
Confirmed by Julian Winter the club will NOT be employing a Sporting Director. It’s not felt to be a good fit for “a club like ours”. A position of Head of Football Operations was advertised instead, and there are three candidates already in mind (with two other possibles)...Phil Hodgkinson, Julian, and HR Mgr will be interviewing. Out of interest where's JW confirmed this? I predicted they'd do a u-turn on this role. It's essentially a cheaper version of a 'Sporting Director'.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jun 6, 2019 12:10:45 GMT 1
Same thing aren't they?
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Post by townatheart on Jun 6, 2019 12:39:25 GMT 1
Not necessarily, suspect in practice though it depends on what duties and responsibilities go with the role. |
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Post by ritchie on Jun 6, 2019 12:41:14 GMT 1
all the previous to rebbe have been heads of football operations anyway
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Post by ritchie on Jun 6, 2019 12:46:17 GMT 1
head of football operations is more a supporting role to the head coach as opposed to sporting director who would be senior to the head coach
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jun 6, 2019 12:51:42 GMT 1
Confirmed by Julian Winter the club will NOT be employing a Sporting Director. It’s not felt to be a good fit for “a club like ours”. A position of Head of Football Operations was advertised instead, and there are three candidates already in mind (with two other possibles)...Phil Hodgkinson, Julian, and HR Mgr will be interviewing. Out of interest where's JW confirmed this? I predicted they'd do a u-turn on this role. It's essentially a cheaper version of a 'Sporting Director'.
Its in the minutes of the May ATT meeting www.htafc.com/siteassets/pdfs/att-notes/att-voices-panel-meeting-notes---may-2019.pdf |
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jun 6, 2019 12:52:56 GMT 1
As others have said this is no change to the existing structure. In fact this is the main reason Webber left for Norwich, as he wished to step up into a director level role.
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Post by sonny on Jun 6, 2019 12:56:55 GMT 1
HTFC in cheap option shock.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 6, 2019 14:02:55 GMT 1
HTFC in cheap option shock. You do realise Stuart Webber was the head of football operations when he was at town, don't you? |
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Post by royrace on Jun 6, 2019 14:19:59 GMT 1
head of football operations is more a supporting role to the head coach as opposed to sporting director who would be senior to the head coach Interesting, if Rebbe was sporting director is that a clue as to why they are going back to head of football ops rather than it being a cheap option. Perhaps it explains why we seemed to buy players that were useless in Wagner's formation (or any formation to be fair). |
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Post by arry11 on Jun 6, 2019 14:46:44 GMT 1
head of football operations is more a supporting role to the head coach as opposed to sporting director who would be senior to the head coach Interesting, if Rebbe was sporting director is that a clue as to why they are going back to head of football ops rather than it being a cheap option. Perhaps it explains why we seemed to buy players that were useless in Wagner's formation (or any formation to be fair). Or it maybe it causes a conflict of interest within the club we don't need. |
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Post by k1man999 on Jun 6, 2019 14:51:54 GMT 1
head of football operations is more a supporting role to the head coach as opposed to sporting director who would be senior to the head coach Interesting, if Rebbe was sporting director is that a clue as to why they are going back to head of football ops rather than it being a cheap option. Perhaps it explains why we seemed to buy players that were useless in Wagner's formation (or any formation to be fair). If this is the case at least they are learning from mistakes which bodes well |
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Post by ritchie on Jun 6, 2019 15:12:40 GMT 1
head of football operations is more a supporting role to the head coach as opposed to sporting director who would be senior to the head coach Interesting, if Rebbe was sporting director is that a clue as to why they are going back to head of football ops rather than it being a cheap option. Perhaps it explains why we seemed to buy players that were useless in Wagner's formation (or any formation to be fair). it seems something wasnt right |
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