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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 11:45:41 GMT 1
I have read a lot of football autobiographies and most talk at some stage about injuries. They often say how some players play through pain while others are a pain with their attitude and crying off when the going gets tough. When did we last have 7 injured. Is this a coincidence or are they not wanting to play? neither and your point how do we have 7 injuries? easy and there is times when players play through the pain barrier but not if its going to make there injuries worst.i certainly don't accept that players do not want to play. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 11:48:16 GMT 1
Either that or our medical staff aren't up to the job. I thought Williams was supposed to be almost ready to play 2 or 3 months ago. comment about something you know about the medical staff are experts in there field don't spout riubbish |
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Post by Mecha Corte on Mar 15, 2019 12:07:03 GMT 1
I have read a lot of football autobiographies and most talk at some stage about injuries. They often say how some players play through pain while others are a pain with their attitude and crying off when the going gets tough. When did we last have 7 injured. Is this a coincidence or are they not wanting to play? neither and your point how do we have 7 injuries? easy and there is times when players play through the pain barrier but not if its going to make there injuries worst.i certainly don't accept that players do not want to play. I'm not accusing any of our players who are currently unavailable for selection through injury of not wanting to play, for one thing I don't know any of them, I'd like to think they are all genuine cases, however to say you "don't accept that players do not want to play" is simply wrong and in the past that has also included Town players. For example, Joel Lynch would get another booking that led to a ban over the Christmas holidays and just about every footballers autobiography, Town or otherwise, would include tales of XY and Z deliberately missing games to suit their circumstances, it plainly did and still does happen with certain players, but of course not all of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 12:18:20 GMT 1
neither and your point how do we have 7 injuries? easy and there is times when players play through the pain barrier but not if its going to make there injuries worst.i certainly don't accept that players do not want to play. I'm not accusing any of our players who are currently unavailable for selection through injury of not wanting to play, for one thing I don't know any of them, I'd like to think they are all genuine cases, however to say you "don't accept that players do not want to play" is simply wrong and in the past that has also included Town players. For example, Joel Lynch would get another booking that led to a ban over the Christmas holidays and just about every footballers autobiography, Town or otherwise, would include tales of XY and Z deliberately missing games to suit their circumstances, it plainly did and still does happen with certain players, but of course not all of them. I accept your point and yes there are exeptions but as you say far and few between. |
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Post by terriertim on Mar 15, 2019 12:22:56 GMT 1
neither and your point how do we have 7 injuries? easy and there is times when players play through the pain barrier but not if its going to make there injuries worst.i certainly don't accept that players do not want to play. I'm not accusing any of our players who are currently unavailable for selection through injury of not wanting to play, for one thing I don't know any of them, I'd like to think they are all genuine cases, however to say you "don't accept that players do not want to play" is simply wrong and in the past that has also included Town players. For example, Joel Lynch would get another booking that led to a ban over the Christmas holidays and just about every footballers autobiography, Town or otherwise, would include tales of XY and Z deliberately missing games to suit their circumstances, it plainly did and still does happen with certain players, but of course not all of them. I doubt Williams will play in a Town shirt again - contract up - gone ! |
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Post by Mecha Corte on Mar 15, 2019 12:41:15 GMT 1
I'm not accusing any of our players who are currently unavailable for selection through injury of not wanting to play, for one thing I don't know any of them, I'd like to think they are all genuine cases, however to say you "don't accept that players do not want to play" is simply wrong and in the past that has also included Town players. For example, Joel Lynch would get another booking that led to a ban over the Christmas holidays and just about every footballers autobiography, Town or otherwise, would include tales of XY and Z deliberately missing games to suit their circumstances, it plainly did and still does happen with certain players, but of course not all of them. I doubt Williams will play in a Town shirt again - contract up - gone ! Again I don't know, it "feels" to me like he could / should be playing and while this season has been a waste of time as far as Williams' is concerned if he was fit and motivated he would be an asset in the Championship. I guess no offer of a new contract would suggest his injuries haven't been that serious, time will tell. |
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Post by royrace on Mar 15, 2019 13:19:33 GMT 1
Interesting press conference! Injured Hogg, Depoitre, Williams, Mbenza, Tikay (”Kongolo”) + Durm who will be fit. No mention of Diakhaby. I also like how he deflects the question from Hannah about who the particular West Ham danger men will be....”they have a lot of dangerous players”...me dubiously strokes chin and thinks,,,”erm, you don’t actually know any West Ham players do you?!”...Hannah presumably thinks the same so follows up with “well name SOME of the dangerous players then”....Jan quickly racks his brain, can’t think of a single West Ham player so responds, “I don’t want to” like a baby!! I’m sure it doesn’t actually play out like that...but I do wonder if he’s all that bothered about the opposition given how far away from everyone else we seem to be...might as well just forget who we’re playing and try and bed a system in whilst just taking the hit of a load of defeats...like an extended pre season. What struck me was how little interest there is generally in the WH game, eg there isn’t even a match thread started on here yet. I was at Newcastle (what a waste of effort) and watched the Brighton game on a stream (what a waste of time). How many are bothering to trek down to London tomorrow for what will almost inevitably be another defeat where we fail to score? Got to be honest tomorrow I have no intention of listening, watching or even checking the score, had too many Saturdays ruined this season, that's my plan anyway, whether I'll manage it or not is another matter. Fair play to anyone going to West Ham. Its just a question of how heavy the defeat will be isn't it. We haven't had a tonking for a while, I can see that changing tomorrow. |
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Post by royrace on Mar 15, 2019 13:25:34 GMT 1
Interesting press conference! Injured Hogg, Depoitre, Williams, Mbenza, Tikay (”Kongolo”) + Durm who will be fit. No mention of Diakhaby. I also like how he deflects the question from Hannah about who the particular West Ham danger men will be....”they have a lot of dangerous players”...me dubiously strokes chin and thinks,,,”erm, you don’t actually know any West Ham players do you?!”...Hannah presumably thinks the same so follows up with “well name SOME of the dangerous players then”.... Jan quickly racks his brain, can’t think of a single West Ham player so responds, “I don’t want to” like a baby!!I’m sure it doesn’t actually play out like that...but I do wonder if he’s all that bothered about the opposition given how far away from everyone else we seem to be...might as well just forget who we’re playing and try and bed a system in whilst just taking the hit of a load of defeats...like an extended pre season. I initially thought the same then convinced myself he was just being secretive! I'm not impressed by Jan so far although I really want him to succeed. I'm sure he is a very good coach though and professional enough to know all about West Ham and who their danger men are. He also forgot Tommy Smith was back from injury! Tommy will be feeling great if he saw that having just been stripped of the captaincy. At least he knows how much he is rated. To be fair to him it must be easy to forget details when you're in a press conference and have a million different things on your mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 14:24:12 GMT 1
Interesting press conference! Injured Hogg, Depoitre, Williams, Mbenza, Tikay (”Kongolo”) + Durm who will be fit. No mention of Diakhaby. I also like how he deflects the question from Hannah about who the particular West Ham danger men will be....”they have a lot of dangerous players”...me dubiously strokes chin and thinks,,,”erm, you don’t actually know any West Ham players do you?!”...Hannah presumably thinks the same so follows up with “well name SOME of the dangerous players then”.... Jan quickly racks his brain, can’t think of a single West Ham player so responds, “I don’t want to” like a baby!!I’m sure it doesn’t actually play out like that...but I do wonder if he’s all that bothered about the opposition given how far away from everyone else we seem to be...might as well just forget who we’re playing and try and bed a system in whilst just taking the hit of a load of defeats...like an extended pre season. I initially thought the same then convinced myself he was just being secretive! I'm not impressed by Jan so far although I really want him to succeed. I'm sure he is a very good coach though and professional enough to know all about West Ham and who their danger men are. He also forgot Tommy Smith was back from injury! Tommy will be feeling great if he saw that having just been stripped of the captaincy. At least he knows how much he is rated. To be fair to him it must be easy to forget details when you're in a press conference and have a million different things on your mind. Tommy Smith hasn’t been injured so doubt he would care much about not being recognised as returning from injury!! |
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Post by sapphireblue on Mar 15, 2019 15:09:29 GMT 1
Have our medical staff never heard of laser or any other forms of natural treatment? That sentence reads like you think that laser is a form of "natural" treatment. |
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Post by ritchie on Mar 15, 2019 15:28:28 GMT 1
Interesting press conference! Injured Hogg, Depoitre, Williams, Mbenza, Tikay (”Kongolo”) + Durm who will be fit. No mention of Diakhaby. I also like how he deflects the question from Hannah about who the particular West Ham danger men will be....”they have a lot of dangerous players”...me dubiously strokes chin and thinks,,,”erm, you don’t actually know any West Ham players do you?!”...Hannah presumably thinks the same so follows up with “well name SOME of the dangerous players then”....Jan quickly racks his brain, can’t think of a single West Ham player so responds, “I don’t want to” like a baby!! I’m sure it doesn’t actually play out like that...but I do wonder if he’s all that bothered about the opposition given how far away from everyone else we seem to be...might as well just forget who we’re playing and try and bed a system in whilst just taking the hit of a load of defeats...like an extended pre season. Bloody hell to suggest he doesnt know any of their players because he doesnt want to name names is a stretch even for on here. You honestly think he doesnt know who players like arnautovic, anderson, rice are? standard manager stuff to not talk about another teams players as its about his own players. No doubt if he spent 5 minutes talking about how much he admires arnautovic folk would be saying wah wah wah whys he talking about west ham players He also did mention diakhaby |
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Post by royrace on Mar 15, 2019 17:21:47 GMT 1
I initially thought the same then convinced myself he was just being secretive! I'm not impressed by Jan so far although I really want him to succeed. I'm sure he is a very good coach though and professional enough to know all about West Ham and who their danger men are. He also forgot Tommy Smith was back from injury! Tommy will be feeling great if he saw that having just been stripped of the captaincy. At least he knows how much he is rated. To be fair to him it must be easy to forget details when you're in a press conference and have a million different things on your mind. Tommy Smith hasn’t been injured so doubt he would care much about not being recognised as returning from injury!! You know what I mean! He's back anyway, he should start IMO. |
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Post by pixie on Mar 15, 2019 17:34:30 GMT 1
Have our medical staff never heard of laser or any other forms of natural treatment? That sentence reads like you think that laser is a form of "natural" treatment. Corrected for Mr. Pedant  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 18:30:45 GMT 1
Interesting press conference! Injured Hogg, Depoitre, Williams, Mbenza, Tikay (”Kongolo”) + Durm who will be fit. No mention of Diakhaby. I also like how he deflects the question from Hannah about who the particular West Ham danger men will be....”they have a lot of dangerous players”...me dubiously strokes chin and thinks,,,”erm, you don’t actually know any West Ham players do you?!”...Hannah presumably thinks the same so follows up with “well name SOME of the dangerous players then”....Jan quickly racks his brain, can’t think of a single West Ham player so responds, “I don’t want to” like a baby!! I’m sure it doesn’t actually play out like that...but I do wonder if he’s all that bothered about the opposition given how far away from everyone else we seem to be...might as well just forget who we’re playing and try and bed a system in whilst just taking the hit of a load of defeats...like an extended pre season. Bloody hell to suggest he doesnt know any of their players because he doesnt want to name names is a stretch even for on here. You honestly think he doesnt know who players like arnautovic, anderson, rice are? standard manager stuff to not talk about another teams players as its about his own players. No doubt if he spent 5 minutes talking about how much he admires arnautovic folk would be saying wah wah wah whys he talking about west ham players He also did mention diakhaby Of course I don’t think that are you an idiot?! I do however think he’s probably less bothered about the makeup of the teams we’re facing now than he’ll have to be once he starts to take us into some actual competitive fixtures next season. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 15, 2019 18:54:28 GMT 1
Bloody hell to suggest he doesnt know any of their players because he doesnt want to name names is a stretch even for on here. You honestly think he doesnt know who players like arnautovic, anderson, rice are? standard manager stuff to not talk about another teams players as its about his own players. No doubt if he spent 5 minutes talking about how much he admires arnautovic folk would be saying wah wah wah whys he talking about west ham players He also did mention diakhaby Of course I don’t think that are you an idiot?! I do however think he’s probably less bothered about the makeup of the teams we’re facing now than he’ll have to be once he starts to take us into some actual competitive fixtures next season. we need 4 or 5 players tommorow trying their arse off to impress for a possible move and the rest to play their arse off to impress our bloke.. the names of the west ham players and the actual result are pretty moot.. |
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Post by ritchie on Mar 15, 2019 21:23:36 GMT 1
Bloody hell to suggest he doesnt know any of their players because he doesnt want to name names is a stretch even for on here. You honestly think he doesnt know who players like arnautovic, anderson, rice are? standard manager stuff to not talk about another teams players as its about his own players. No doubt if he spent 5 minutes talking about how much he admires arnautovic folk would be saying wah wah wah whys he talking about west ham players He also did mention diakhaby Of course I don’t think that are you an idiot?! I do however think he’s probably less bothered about the makeup of the teams we’re facing now than he’ll have to be once he starts to take us into some actual competitive fixtures next season. Yeah ok , me replying to what you said makes me the idiot |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 22:07:11 GMT 1
Of course I don’t think that are you an idiot?! I do however think he’s probably less bothered about the makeup of the teams we’re facing now than he’ll have to be once he starts to take us into some actual competitive fixtures next season. Yeah ok , me replying to what you said makes me the idiot Let me be clear. The final paragraph I wrote is what I believe. The paragraph before that was how a stream of consciousness vaguely amusing thought I had whilst watching the video went. Apologies if everything has to be hard black and white for you to comprehend. 🤷♂️ |
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Post by ritchie on Mar 15, 2019 22:25:51 GMT 1
Yeah ok , me replying to what you said makes me the idiot Let me be clear. The final paragraph I wrote is what I believe. The paragraph before that was how a stream of consciousness vaguely amusing thought I had whilst watching the video went. Apologies if everything has to be hard black and white for you to comprehend. 🤷♂️ not really, the fact you typed it out then posted it to me intimated you thought it was in some way a worthy topic of debate. pretty comprehensible |
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Post by sapphireblue on Mar 16, 2019 1:44:19 GMT 1
That sentence reads like you think that laser is a form of "natural" treatment. Corrected for Mr. Pedant Mr. Pedantic, if you please. |
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Post by shedds on Mar 16, 2019 5:47:45 GMT 1
setting of on the coach at 8am down to west ham ,looking forward to it in my own twisted way
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 9:47:13 GMT 1
I seem to keep seeing calls to keep williams while for me he’s been the worst signing since clarkies days.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 10:52:03 GMT 1
Have our medical staff never heard of laser or any other forms of natural treatment? That sentence reads like you think that laser is a form of "natural" treatment. In Pixies head that is a " natural " treatment . |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Mar 16, 2019 11:16:29 GMT 1
I seem to keep seeing calls to keep williams while for me he’s been the worst signing since clarkies days. I could name 20 worse but I can’t be arsed. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 11:17:40 GMT 1
I seem to keep seeing calls to keep williams while for me he’s been the worst signing since clarkies days. I could name 20 worse but I can’t be arsed. He’s played 1 notable game for us. United home last season- tbf it was a blinding performance but what a crock. Sorry but there aren’t 20 worst signings than DW, not in the last 5 years. I don’t think there are 5 worse than him. 5 that contributed less, taking into account wages, games played etc Sobhi and Sabiri are 2 I’ll start you off with. Williams is in front of them by virtue of he’s m played 1 good game for us, which is 1 more than those two numpties. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Mar 16, 2019 12:30:43 GMT 1
I could name 20 worse but I can’t be arsed. He’s played 1 notable game for us. United home last season- tbf it was a blinding performance but what a crock. Sorry but there aren’t 20 worst signings than DW, not in the last 5 years. I don’t think there are 5 worse than him. 5 that contributed less, taking into account wages, games played etc Sobhi and Sabiri are 2 I’ll start you off with. Williams is in front of them by virtue of he’s m played 1 good game for us, which is 1 more than those two numpties. Since Clarke - Lopez, Tronstad, Bojaj, Davidson, Miller, Majewski, James, Carroll, Gobern, Robinson, Coleman, Hamer, Puncheon have all been worse signings. There’s more but that’s down to personal choice. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 13:40:05 GMT 1
He’s played 1 notable game for us. United home last season- tbf it was a blinding performance but what a crock. Sorry but there aren’t 20 worst signings than DW, not in the last 5 years. I don’t think there are 5 worse than him. 5 that contributed less, taking into account wages, games played etc Sobhi and Sabiri are 2 I’ll start you off with. Williams is in front of them by virtue of he’s m played 1 good game for us, which is 1 more than those two numpties. Since Clarke - Lopez, Tronstad, Bojaj, Davidson, Miller, Majewski, James, Carroll, Gobern, Robinson, Coleman, Hamer, Puncheon have all been worse signings. There’s more but that’s down to personal choice. Lopez was a Clark signing wasn’t he? Hamer omg yes. The worst keeper I think I’ve seen at Town- certainly the guy who lost us the most points. A horror show signing that one- not surprising when he’d played 4 games in 3 years though! I’m not really into considering Bojaj and other youngsters because they won’t have been on any serious money unlike Danny. Miller was Clark surely. Majewski yes fair enough was he Robins or Powell? Gobern had a few decent games for Town more contribution that Danny I’d venture. Puncheon definitely- woeful. James and Carroll? Bit part squad men signed in league one or champs for a pittance so I’d question their inclusion. Wages and when signed needs to be considered imo. |
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Post by ritchie on Mar 16, 2019 13:47:40 GMT 1
Since Clarke - Lopez, Tronstad, Bojaj, Davidson, Miller, Majewski, James, Carroll, Gobern, Robinson, Coleman, Hamer, Puncheon have all been worse signings. There’s more but that’s down to personal choice. Lopez was a Clark signing wasn’t he? Hamer omg yes. The worst keeper I think I’ve seen at Town- certainly the guy who lost us the most points. A horror show signing that one- not surprising when he’d played 4 games in 3 years though! I’m not really into considering Bojaj and other youngsters because they won’t have been on any serious money unlike Danny. Miller was Clark surely. Majewski yes fair enough was he Robins or Powell? Gobern had a few decent games for Town more contribution that Danny I’d venture. Puncheon definitely- woeful. James and Carroll? Bit part squad men signed in league one or champs for a pittance so I’d question their inclusion. Wages and when signed needs to be considered imo. Id probably agree with all that but i guess you have to take into account finances if you're talking wages. He will be on a lot more than any of those but we had a lot more brass to spend Remind me who james and carroll are? Id happily keep williams if it was on a tiny wage with high appearance fee, but he wouldnt sign the type of contract id want him on. he will be off. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Mar 16, 2019 13:54:42 GMT 1
Lopez was a Clark signing wasn’t he? Hamer omg yes. The worst keeper I think I’ve seen at Town- certainly the guy who lost us the most points. A horror show signing that one- not surprising when he’d played 4 games in 3 years though! I’m not really into considering Bojaj and other youngsters because they won’t have been on any serious money unlike Danny. Miller was Clark surely. Majewski yes fair enough was he Robins or Powell? Gobern had a few decent games for Town more contribution that Danny I’d venture. Puncheon definitely- woeful. James and Carroll? Bit part squad men signed in league one or champs for a pittance so I’d question their inclusion. Wages and when signed needs to be considered imo. Id probably agree with all that but i guess you have to take into account finances if you're talking wages. He will be on a lot more than any of those but we had a lot more brass to spend Remind me who james and carroll are? Id happily keep williams if it was on a tiny wage with high appearance fee, but he wouldnt sign the type of contract id want him on. he will be off. James was on loan from Man Utd. I remember one idiot from Man Utd who was stood on back post and watched a corner go straight past him in to top corner |
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Post by impact on Mar 16, 2019 14:12:59 GMT 1
I seem to keep seeing calls to keep williams while for me he’s been the worst signing since clarkies days. There have been loads worse than him since then. But he's been a waste of a wage. |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 16, 2019 14:20:58 GMT 1
Id probably agree with all that but i guess you have to take into account finances if you're talking wages. He will be on a lot more than any of those but we had a lot more brass to spend Remind me who james and carroll are? Id happily keep williams if it was on a tiny wage with high appearance fee, but he wouldnt sign the type of contract id want him on. he will be off. James was on loan from Man Utd. I remember one idiot from Man Utd who was stood on back post and watched a corner go straight past him in to top corner James looked alright but he went back to Utd and ended up signing for Wigan |
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