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Post by alex on Apr 6, 2019 16:54:29 GMT 1
If he stays we will be in another relegation dog fight. Don't give me that crap about give him a chance, he needs to build his own team, he need a summer. It's bollocks. We have gone backwards massively since DW departed, the players look disinterested and lazy. Our tactics look non-existent.
We ballsed up last summer, and we are going to do the same if he stays. He was the cheap option and it did not work, time to move on. New season new manager, new impetus. There is no point in him staying, he will achieve very little next season.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Apr 6, 2019 16:56:22 GMT 1
Players didn’t follow his instructions or his plan for Vardy.
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Post by loumacari on Apr 6, 2019 16:57:24 GMT 1
Lost the dressing room. No tactics, no idea, no fight. And don’t get me started on Hamer.
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Post by impact on Apr 6, 2019 16:57:36 GMT 1
We have no wingers. We're playing a centre mid and left back there.
It's like trying to win a game of poker when you aren't dealt any cards.
He has been massively screwed by the board.
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Post by loumacari on Apr 6, 2019 16:59:08 GMT 1
We have no wingers. We're playing a centre mid and left back there. It's like trying to win a game of poker when you aren't dealt any cards. He has been massively screwed by the board. Bollocks. You pick a system and formation based on what’s available. If he’s a one trick pony then he’s not what we need. |
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Post by impact on Apr 6, 2019 17:00:52 GMT 1
We have no wingers. We're playing a centre mid and left back there. It's like trying to win a game of poker when you aren't dealt any cards. He has been massively screwed by the board. Bollocks. You pick a system and formation based on what’s available. If he’s a one trick pony then he’s not what we need. 6 at the back it is then. |
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Post by ringdisco on Apr 6, 2019 17:01:17 GMT 1
We have no wingers. We're playing a centre mid and left back there. It's like trying to win a game of poker when you aren't dealt any cards. He has been massively screwed by the board. Diakhaby and Mbenza available. I'm done with Siewert. Though, being fair, I never actually warmed to him. |
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Post by El Mel on Apr 6, 2019 17:01:51 GMT 1
Give the guy a chance FFS
He needs to build his own team.
He needs a summer to set us up for the championship.
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Post by impact on Apr 6, 2019 17:02:44 GMT 1
We have no wingers. We're playing a centre mid and left back there. It's like trying to win a game of poker when you aren't dealt any cards. He has been massively screwed by the board. Diakhaby and Mbenza available. I'm done with Siewert. Though, being fair, I never actually warmed to him. Diakhaby wasn't. Mbenza hasn't played for 2 months so couldn't start, and the game changed for us when he came on. We actually started to threaten. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 17:04:26 GMT 1
Give the guy a chance FFS He needs to build his own team. He needs a summer to set us up for the championship.
......and then the following summer for Division One.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 17:05:00 GMT 1
He seemingly has lost the whole dressing room, not just the players we all think he has fallen out with. Whats his plan for summer, flog them all?
I would like him not to be in charge. Bring someone in with maturity but also stern, who can leave the shit in his managers office and not fuck up the team and its possibility of gaining any point or points from games.
Get Slavisa in or an ambitious manager from League 1, Daniel Stendel at Barnsley is playing some very good stuff and has them with a home record that is beyond ridiculous.
The loss of Wagner and feeling slightly depleted that his time ended as it did, its got worse and worse with this guy. The town was bonded together, he spoke well of his team, the fight etc. Siewert just blames everyone but himself.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Apr 6, 2019 17:06:47 GMT 1
Last thing we need next season is a gamble.
Not for me... I understand other opinions of give him a chance but I don’t think he is ready.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 17:07:15 GMT 1
Give the guy a chance FFS He needs to build his own team. He needs a summer to set us up for the championship. I thought this, but he cant seemingly get over little tiffs with players. Do you give a guy who just blames others, falls out with some of our best players on paper, has a team not playing his way in a lot of games he has been in charge, money in the summer to rebuild? I dont if im an Owner |
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Post by digs on Apr 6, 2019 17:08:50 GMT 1
He seemingly has lost the whole dressing room, not just the players we all think he has fallen out with. Whats his plan for summer, flog them all? I would like him not to be in charge. Bring someone in with maturity but also stern, who can leave the shit in his managers office and not fuck up the team and its possibility of gaining any point or points from games. Get Slavisa in or an ambitious manager from League 1, Daniel Stendel at Barnsley is playing some very good stuff and has them with a home record that is beyond ridiculous. The loss of Wagner and feeling slightly depleted that his time ended as it did, its got worse and worse with this guy. The town was bonded together, he spoke well of his team, the fight etc. Siewert just blames everyone but himself. why do you think hes lost the dressing room,is it because were shite? Does that mean Lord Wagner lost it too?,because we were no better with the shite he signed when he was here |
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Post by est1908 on Apr 6, 2019 17:09:39 GMT 1
If he stays we will be in another relegation dog fight. Don't give me that crap about give him a chance, he needs to build his own team, he need a summer. It's bollocks. We have gone backwards massively since DW departed, the players look disinterested and lazy. Our tactics look non-existent. We ballsed up last summer, and we are going to do the same if he stays. He was the cheap option and it did not work, time to move on. New season new manager, new impetus. There is no point in him staying, he will achieve very little next season. I like him, he's staying, get used to it....  |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Apr 6, 2019 17:09:45 GMT 1
Diakhaby and Mbenza available. I'm done with Siewert. Though, being fair, I never actually warmed to him. Diakhaby wasn't. Mbenza hasn't played for 2 months so couldn't start, and the game changed for us when he came on. We actually started to threaten. He did have an initial positive impact, but he ain't a player for me. Can deliver a reasonable ball, but never really looks in control when in possession. None of our attacking players have performed to the level required, although Grant has clearly exceeded expectations that promise good things for next year. |
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Post by Galpharmer on Apr 6, 2019 17:11:15 GMT 1
He's had long enough to get them organised, they weren't organised. They either aren't listening or not capable. Either way that's the managers fault.
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Post by chinaski on Apr 6, 2019 17:12:17 GMT 1
Yes, exactly what we need now is ANOTHER manager. Thick as pig shit some people - stop being so reactionary and look at the bigger picture.
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Post by ringdisco on Apr 6, 2019 17:16:40 GMT 1
If he stays we will be in another relegation dog fight. Don't give me that crap about give him a chance, he needs to build his own team, he need a summer. It's bollocks. We have gone backwards massively since DW departed, the players look disinterested and lazy. Our tactics look non-existent. We ballsed up last summer, and we are going to do the same if he stays. He was the cheap option and it did not work, time to move on. New season new manager, new impetus. There is no point in him staying, he will achieve very little next season. I like him, he's staying, get used to it.... Used to losing? Yes, I'm sure you're spot on there. |
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Post by impact on Apr 6, 2019 17:16:54 GMT 1
Diakhaby wasn't. Mbenza hasn't played for 2 months so couldn't start, and the game changed for us when he came on. We actually started to threaten. He did have an initial positive impact, but he ain't a player for me. Can deliver a reasonable ball, but never really looks in control when in possession. None of our attacking players have performed to the level required, although Grant has clearly exceeded expectations that promise good things for next year. I starting to warm to him. But the fact he's pretty much all we have right now says everything about the abysmal decision making by the board this season. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Apr 6, 2019 17:17:30 GMT 1
Yes, exactly what we need now is ANOTHER manager. Thick as pig shit some people - stop being so reactionary and look at the bigger picture. If the rumours of him losing the dressing room are right and we continue like this until the end of the season then don’t be surprised if Hoyle goes skiing ! If someone is clearly not up to the job then you don’t carry on regardless... doesn’t make people thick as pig shit having a different view either. |
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Post by londonterrier23 on Apr 6, 2019 17:18:06 GMT 1
If he stays we will be in another relegation dog fight. Don't give me that crap about give him a chance, he needs to build his own team, he need a summer. It's bollocks. We have gone backwards massively since DW departed, the players look disinterested and lazy. Our tactics look non-existent. We ballsed up last summer, and we are going to do the same if he stays. He was the cheap option and it did not work, time to move on. New season new manager, new impetus. There is no point in him staying, he will achieve very little next season. So what did you expect when DW left? All the people that were calling for DW’s head were stupid. We were extracting the max out of the playing squad. Fergie wouldn’t have turned this team around!!! So what you expect Siewert to do with no transfer window and with no real knowledge of the division or the players he was inherited? I am not saying he has it or he hasn’t got it. We have insufficient data to glean from. All I’m saying is what has happened was obviously going to happen. All the fans that shat the bed and started breading negativity and mouthing off and calling for his head are the ones who should look back and learn. We were very close under DW. Combination of Mooy injury and DH illness cost us at a pivotal time of the season. But had we kept DW and embraced him rather than turned on him. I feel strongly that we would be in a much better spot. |
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Post by gymroidspump on Apr 6, 2019 17:19:02 GMT 1
If he stays we will be in another relegation dog fight. Don't give me that crap about give him a chance, he needs to build his own team, he need a summer. It's bollocks. We have gone backwards massively since DW departed, the players look disinterested and lazy. Our tactics look non-existent. We ballsed up last summer, and we are going to do the same if he stays. He was the cheap option and it did not work, time to move on. New season new manager, new impetus. There is no point in him staying, he will achieve very little next season. So what did you expect when DW left? All the people that were calling for DW’s head were stupid. We were extracting the max out of the playing squad. Fergie wouldn’t have turned this team around!!! So what you expect Siewert to do with no transfer window and with no real knowledge of the division or the players he was inherited? I am not saying he has it or he hasn’t got it. We have insufficient data to glean from. All I’m saying is what has happened was obviously going to happen. All the fans that shat the bed and started breading negativity and mouthing off and calling for his head are the ones who should look back and learn. We were very close under DW. Combination of Mooy injury and DH illness cost us at a pivotal time of the season. But had we kept DW and embraced him rather than turned on him. I feel strongly that we would be in a much better spot. Totally disagree. Wagner lost the plot. We were dreadful under him this season. He had to go. |
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Post by specialun on Apr 6, 2019 17:19:04 GMT 1
We have no wingers. We're playing a centre mid and left back there. It's like trying to win a game of poker when you aren't dealt any cards. He has been massively screwed by the board. Diakhaby and Mbenza available. I'm done with Siewert. Though, being fair, I never actually warmed to him. If Diakhaby is the answer what on earth is the question? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 17:20:42 GMT 1
He’s not going anywhere so we might as well get behind him. Following Wagner is a poisoned chalice, like following Fergy at Man Utd in our own way. The players loved DW so will take some convincing to follow the next guy in dismissing the ideas that brought us great achievements. Many will want to leave and it’s only natural for JS to want his own team and direction.
We’re in a weird limbo and acting petulant will solve nothing. All we can do is wait and embrace the future.
That said, I would have rather we had brought in Jokanovic with his experience. But we didn’t, do get onboard!
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Post by ringdisco on Apr 6, 2019 17:20:49 GMT 1
Diakhaby and Mbenza available. I'm done with Siewert. Though, being fair, I never actually warmed to him. If Diakhaby is the answer what on earth is the question? Why the fuck is Löwe and Mooy on the wing? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 17:21:01 GMT 1
He seemingly has lost the whole dressing room, not just the players we all think he has fallen out with. Whats his plan for summer, flog them all? I would like him not to be in charge. Bring someone in with maturity but also stern, who can leave the shit in his managers office and not fuck up the team and its possibility of gaining any point or points from games. Get Slavisa in or an ambitious manager from League 1, Daniel Stendel at Barnsley is playing some very good stuff and has them with a home record that is beyond ridiculous. The loss of Wagner and feeling slightly depleted that his time ended as it did, its got worse and worse with this guy. The town was bonded together, he spoke well of his team, the fight etc. Siewert just blames everyone but himself. why do you think hes lost the dressing room,is it because were shite? Does that mean Lord Wagner lost it too?,because we were no better with the shite he signed when he was here Plan for Vardy......Players didnt play his tactics in other games he came out and spoke of. Did Billing, Lossl and co get dropped when or if he had a disagreement, week in, week out now? Lose it with your main players, which they are, whether some think that or not, then you have lost the dressing room. Wagner ran out of ideas and we got stumped by teams as we played in a similar way to the previous season, plus recruitment was crap. We could instantly see what Wagner was trying to do when he came in, a different style and more urgency, Siewert has done nothing but blame others, play the worst tactics and drop key players. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Apr 6, 2019 17:23:35 GMT 1
Would we have been better with Martin from Wakefield?
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Post by specialun on Apr 6, 2019 17:26:38 GMT 1
So what did you expect when DW left? All the people that were calling for DW’s head were stupid. We were extracting the max out of the playing squad. Fergie wouldn’t have turned this team around!!! So what you expect Siewert to do with no transfer window and with no real knowledge of the division or the players he was inherited? I am not saying he has it or he hasn’t got it. We have insufficient data to glean from. All I’m saying is what has happened was obviously going to happen. All the fans that shat the bed and started breading negativity and mouthing off and calling for his head are the ones who should look back and learn. We were very close under DW. Combination of Mooy injury and DH illness cost us at a pivotal time of the season. But had we kept DW and embraced him rather than turned on him. I feel strongly that we would be in a much better spot. Totally disagree. Wagner lost the plot. We were dreadful under him this season. He had to go. Sorry cannot agree In the summer we underinvested and that investment was poor He made the best out of the resources he had until that week which started with us being 1-0 up after 7 points in 9 until Michael Oliver decided he would change the result We then lost 4 midfielders in a week We were in the fight at that point requiring additional attacking quality in January We couldn’t compete after that After that I think we have done something like played 20, won 1, drawn 1, lost 18 including since Wagner left played 11, won 1, lost 10 |
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Post by gymroidspump on Apr 6, 2019 17:27:04 GMT 1
If Diakhaby is the answer what on earth is the question? Why the fuck is Löwe and Mooy on the wing? According to some you don't need a traditional winger playing on the wing. Someone who slows the game down to walking pace, passes it sideways and backward is just as effective. Not Mooy's fault he was put on the wing but he was shite today. Again. |
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