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Post by space hardware on Apr 26, 2019 21:42:07 GMT 1
Get rid.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Apr 26, 2019 21:56:53 GMT 1
Bet Jan says we played well, the bloke hasnt a clue. Kiling my club.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Apr 26, 2019 21:58:04 GMT 1
He's our equivelent of the Hockaday appointment down the road.
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Post by Champers on Apr 26, 2019 22:04:54 GMT 1
The bloke is an absolute novice and shouldn't be anywhere near our club. Get rid.
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Post by huddersfc on Apr 26, 2019 22:06:29 GMT 1
we just need to admit he is out of his depth, and get rid of a cheap failed option, does Hoyle not see the damage this is going to do going forward, its 1 win in 13 games, it doesnt matter whose team it is or in what division. That statistic is abysmal, there isnt even a draw in there. No new manager has his own players, but they show that they can be trusted with money to improve the team. This lad has shown sod all except that he cant man manage players or motivate them, he cant get results, he has no obvious style, and he is completely out of his depth. Just put Hudson in for the last 2 games, he wont do any worse and at least he might bring back some confidence.
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Post by gingerc on Apr 26, 2019 22:07:14 GMT 1
Please, please, please can the club hold it’s hands up and say “we got it wrong” and ensure Jan is thanked for his time and we move on in a different direction at the end of the season. There is too much at stake to risk continuing this poor form into next season.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Apr 26, 2019 22:11:41 GMT 1
The first goal tonight is shocking
It’s a repeat of the same goal we gifted Watford after three mins last week. Did we learn nothing?
From our kick off we rolled it back to lossl who plays that pass to stankovic who cocks up as surprise surprise he’s geggenpressed by liverpool - everyone knows Klopp/ Liverpool gegenpress
This is absolute basics - to gift a goal from our kick off repeating the same error as last week ... honestly were is the coaching here cause I’m not seeing it
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Post by mrscribbs on Apr 26, 2019 22:18:59 GMT 1
i really don’t get those who say they can see what JS is trying to do - in 13 games we have lost 12 and have only scored in 5 ( three of those were in the 90th minute or later ) whilst also conceding 4 or more in 5. The attacking threat is non existent and the defensive organisation we had under Wagner has evaporated. Given we have the same players when will people see the number 1 issue is JS. He is out of his depth with both individual man management and tactical organisation and should not be trusted with any funds in the summer.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 26, 2019 22:20:20 GMT 1
Jan out. Clueless idiot. Just a water bottle throwing cheerleader imo. He has no tactical nous. Get him out at the end of the season.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Apr 26, 2019 22:21:34 GMT 1
has he gone yet? I'd do it right now if we're going to do it.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 26, 2019 22:29:17 GMT 1
Another unwanted record for Siewert, fastest ever goal scored by Liverpool. He shows passion though. Watch him go when he gets his own players in. Lmao. Them water bottles are in for a shoe in if he's still here next season. I don't see why he should get the chance to bring players in? Whats he going to sign German non league players? Who on earth is going to want to play under him?
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Post by drumriggend on Apr 26, 2019 22:46:27 GMT 1
Time to go
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Post by space hardware on Apr 26, 2019 22:48:19 GMT 1
Get rid.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 26, 2019 22:49:42 GMT 1
Nah needs his own players bro. Let's stick with him and give him millions to spend in the summer.
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Post by royrace on Apr 26, 2019 22:50:46 GMT 1
Put him out of his misery ffs, get rid of whoever is chief exec too, I’ve forgotten his name
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 26, 2019 22:52:52 GMT 1
Some folk will say this poll is an over-reaction to losing to a team at the top of the PL & in the Champions League semi final, but it really isn't. I initially was right behind Siewert but he's proving to be more bloody clueless every week. We could have a realistic chance of coming back up next season but he's done nothing to suggest he's the man for the task ahead.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 26, 2019 22:53:37 GMT 1
Put him out of his misery ffs, get rid of whoever is chief exec too, I’ve forgotten his name Winter? Yeah he needs to go. I reckon hoyle will sack him in the summer. Whole club needs a clear out.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 26, 2019 22:54:46 GMT 1
Some folk will say this poll is an over-reaction to losing to a team at the top of the PL & in the Champions League semi final, but it really isn't. I initially was right behind Siewert but he's proving to be more bloody clueless every week. We could have a realistic chance of coming back up next season but he's done nothing to suggest he's the man for the task ahead. We genuinely get worse every week. The team displays are diabolical. Yes sometimes 1 or 2 player put in a decent shift but that's simply not good enough.
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Apr 26, 2019 22:56:32 GMT 1
I can understand that this is a knee jerk reaction, but what do you hope to achieve with this poll? Vast majority of Season Ticket holders, let alone Town fans as a whole, are not signed up for this site. So, imagine that you get a majority of, say, 500, one way or the other, what's your next course of action? Do you expect the club to take any notice? What next? A poll against each player, asking if we should keep them on?
Dearie me.
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Post by drumriggend on Apr 26, 2019 23:00:06 GMT 1
I can understand that this is a knee jerk reaction, but what do you hope to achieve with this poll? Vast majority of Season Ticket holders, let alone Town fans as a whole, are not signed up for this site. So, imagine that you get a majority of, say, 500, one way or the other, what's your next course of action? Do you expect the club to take any notice? What next? A poll against each player, asking if we should keep them on? Dearie me. Canvassing opinions bro.. Not planning a pitch fork wielding march on the stadium
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Post by bluebeard on Apr 26, 2019 23:00:06 GMT 1
Here we go again, it would take Houdini to turn some of these players around. You cant blame Siewert because we have shit keepers and a pathetic excuse for a strike.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Apr 26, 2019 23:01:08 GMT 1
Ironic that most people who want Jan to go are the same who wanted Wagner to stay, who has a lot of responsibility for how shit we are, and would have presided over the exact same scoreline tonight, the only difference with 10 men behind the ball and Mounie up front.
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Post by omar1988 on Apr 26, 2019 23:03:44 GMT 1
A poll to sack the manager? Not very positive. Bad times follow good. Then.................... Good times follow bad. This is the life of a Town fan. You should know this already. Pull yourself together.
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Post by mallyb on Apr 26, 2019 23:03:46 GMT 1
Ironic that most people who want Jan to go are the same who wanted Wagner to stay, who has a lot of responsibility for how shit we are, and would have presided over the exact same scoreline tonight, the only difference with 10 men behind the ball and Mounie up front. Like he did against Liverpool at our place... oh wait no he didn’t did he
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Post by jjamez on Apr 26, 2019 23:03:52 GMT 1
The thing I would say is that I'm not against Siewert leaving, I've lost the will to care about this season.
However, what do you replace him with? I know a lot of people want Jokanovic, but he reportedly wanted 60k pw to take over at forest, aint a cat in hells chance we would pay that whilst in the prem, let alone down in the champ.
Seen some say that we should go for experience, but how much experience is that? is that alan pardew, mark hughes, steve mcclaren and tony pullis experience or is it more experience along the lines of say a carvahal, rowett, mark warburton or nigel pearson?
Do people want a more bold appointment in the form of taking a punt on say the cowley brothers, who arent forced to even want to leave lincoln, even for us. Maybe someone like Stendel at barnsley or dominico tedesco who guided schalke to 2nd last season but couldnt replicate this year and has since been sacked?
or do you go for someone who has a bit to prove to english football like a vilas boas?
maybe you ignore managerial experience and go for hudson who knows the club, try tempt arteta into a first managerial role, but you have no idea what to expect.
For the record when wagner left i wanted a bold appointment as i felt that we were in the ideal position to do so, so someone like tedesco or stendel, however tedesco was still at schalke at the time so we wouldnt have been able to get him.
Now, if siewert was to leave, id still go down that route but i wouldnt be completely against going down the boas or arteta route. I would be cautious about the hudson route.
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Post by space hardware on Apr 26, 2019 23:04:48 GMT 1
I can understand that this is a knee jerk reaction, but what do you hope to achieve with this poll? Vast majority of Season Ticket holders, let alone Town fans as a whole, are not signed up for this site. So, imagine that you get a majority of, say, 500, one way or the other, what's your next course of action? Do you expect the club to take any notice? What next? A poll against each player, asking if we should keep them on? Dearie me. Canvassing opinions bro.. Not planning a pitch fork wielding march on the stadium That's a shame 😁
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Apr 26, 2019 23:05:54 GMT 1
I can understand that this is a knee jerk reaction, but what do you hope to achieve with this poll? Vast majority of Season Ticket holders, let alone Town fans as a whole, are not signed up for this site. So, imagine that you get a majority of, say, 500, one way or the other, what's your next course of action? Do you expect the club to take any notice? What next? A poll against each player, asking if we should keep them on? Dearie me. Canvassing opinions bro.. Not planning a pitch fork wielding march on the stadium Perhaps wait a few days then, rather than just after a heavy defeat. Such timing just might skew the results
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 26, 2019 23:06:09 GMT 1
I can understand that this is a knee jerk reaction, but what do you hope to achieve with this poll? Vast majority of Season Ticket holders, let alone Town fans as a whole, are not signed up for this site. So, imagine that you get a majority of, say, 500, one way or the other, what's your next course of action? Do you expect the club to take any notice? What next? A poll against each player, asking if we should keep them on? Dearie me. Opinion polls are usually only a small sample of the population and whilst they're not always accurate, they often give a good indication of what people are thinking. If 75% of folk on here think he should go (the rough figure as I type this) then you can be rest assured that the majority of Town fans will be having similar thoughts.
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Post by Wingman on Apr 26, 2019 23:08:05 GMT 1
Canvassing opinions bro.. Not planning a pitch fork wielding march on the stadium Perhaps wait a few days then, rather than just after a heavy defeat. Such timing just might skew the results It’s a timely poll. Waiting a few more days will then bring into play a shocking Man Utd team turning us over, then the bile will start the fly. I was behind Siewert, but slowly I’m losing faith. I really want to see him succeed, but it’s hard to see this right now.
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Post by royrace on Apr 26, 2019 23:29:25 GMT 1
The thing I would say is that I'm not against Siewert leaving, I've lost the will to care about this season. However, what do you replace him with? I know a lot of people want Jokanovic, but he reportedly wanted 60k pw to take over at forest, aint a cat in hells chance we would pay that whilst in the prem, let alone down in the champ. Seen some say that we should go for experience, but how much experience is that? is that alan pardew, mark hughes, steve mcclaren and tony pullis experience or is it more experience along the lines of say a carvahal, rowett, mark warburton or nigel pearson? Do people want a more bold appointment in the form of taking a punt on say the cowley brothers, who arent forced to even want to leave lincoln, even for us. Maybe someone like Stendel at barnsley or dominico tedesco who guided schalke to 2nd last season but couldnt replicate this year and has since been sacked? or do you go for someone who has a bit to prove to english football like a vilas boas? maybe you ignore managerial experience and go for hudson who knows the club, try tempt arteta into a first managerial role, but you have no idea what to expect. For the record when wagner left i wanted a bold appointment as i felt that we were in the ideal position to do so, so someone like tedesco or stendel, however tedesco was still at schalke at the time so we wouldnt have been able to get him. Now, if siewert was to leave, id still go down that route but i wouldnt be completely against going down the boas or arteta route. I would be cautious about the hudson route. Who could do worse? Employ pretty much any football manager from a competitive league and he’d do better, the bar is now very, very low.
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