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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 17:31:55 GMT 1
Can't we just sack 10% of our fans who confuse FIFA 19 with real life. Get a fucking grip. Can we sack the ones that, if you dont agree with them, youre labelled a "fuckwit" or a "FIFA 19" player? Real life and stats, not FIFA stats, show we are worse off. Debating is a wonderful thing, when done with level headed people and not plebs |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 17:40:49 GMT 1
Can't we just sack 10% of our fans who confuse FIFA 19 with real life. Get a fucking grip. Can we sack the ones that, if you dont agree with them, youre labelled a "fuckwit" or a "FIFA 19" player? Real life and stats, not FIFA stats, show we are worse off. Debating is a wonderful thing, when done with level headed people and not plebs So the title of this thread was level headed? It struck me as a thread started by a spoilt brat weh weh, throw the dummies out. I don't know if Siewart will be any good for us or not, but I wasn't one for Wagner to begin with. I got it wrong, so I'll wait to see on Siewart before I throw my dummy out. I certainly won't judge him on this season when we were down before he'd even got here. |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Apr 7, 2019 17:51:16 GMT 1
you cannot build a base when half your squad is likely to disappear. The man is looking to see who we can keep and who will have to go. lets face it, the results are totally and utterly irrelevant. People screaming for him to be sacked because their own personal demand for immediate satisfaction is not being delivered are utter fuckwits. Why can't you? Wouldn't you want to see who is going to fit in to the way you want to play for when results do start to matter? I'll go back to Wagner because it's the easiest example but why did he start using his philosophy when he came in then signed basically a new team? Because he wanted to see which of his current players would fit in to what he wants. You're suggesting there's nothing he can do except throw 11 players out every week but that's rubbish, he's wasting an opportunity hardly any other managers get. Because its a two way street. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink. Its clear that a fair number of the squad gave in some time ago. No manager is going to get the best out of them until we start again next season. All these claims that JS lost the dressing room, seems to me the dressing room lost itself. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 17:51:29 GMT 1
Can we sack the ones that, if you dont agree with them, youre labelled a "fuckwit" or a "FIFA 19" player? Real life and stats, not FIFA stats, show we are worse off. Debating is a wonderful thing, when done with level headed people and not plebs So the title of this thread was level headed? It struck me as a thread started by a spoilt brat weh weh, throw the dummies out. I don't know if Siewart will be any good for us or not, but I wasn't one for Wagner to begin with. I got it wrong, so I'll wait to see on Wiegner before I throw my dummy out. I certainly won't judge him on this season when we were down before he'd even got here. Wiegner? Meaning Siewert i gather? You could see what Wagner was trying to do, i cant say the same for this guy and i keep saying it, but his man management isnt good. What footballing credentials does he have to offer also? Dortmund II team, not doing great their either. Because theyre a big named club etc The title of the thread isnt childish, the person is voicing his opinion, by merely stating no thanks. Childish would be your blah blah response, not to mention strange choice in Blackburn supporting username, unless thats your acutal name? After working as the assistant manager for the German under-17 and under-18 national teams,[1] Siewert signed a 3-year contract to become manager of German fourth-tier side Rot-Weiss Essen in June 2015.[2] He was sacked by the club in April 2016 after the club entered the relegation zone.[3] Siewert then became assistant manager of VfL Bochum, manager of the VfL Bochum under-19 team, and manager of Borussia Dortmund II Played for an amateur league team, got sacked by a 4th tier team for leaving them in the relegation zone. He may well be a good coach for youth level as it seems he has done ok with that and managing a Dortmund II team that produces good 1st team players in years gone by, playing against teams of lesser opposition at times. Majorly out his depth i believe at a Premier League and now Championship club. Zero credentials as a player, nor as a manager of an actual 1st team league club. Its not FIFA playing or "fuckwit" knowledge, its pure factual statistics. I bet Essen fans were having a  moment when he was employed by us, bet theyre "fuckwits" too. |
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Post by bacuna on Apr 7, 2019 18:12:21 GMT 1
We're not playing Burton, Rotherham and Barnsley though are we. The chances of conceding last goals in the Premier League is a lot higher Fitness isn’t the same as talent though We've finished a few games literally on the ropes despite being “in it” versus palace and Leicester and ahead v West Ham entering the last ten mins ... our players look spent while opponents find space with ease Fitness and talent aren't separate.
In this division, lads like Smith have to give 110% just stay somewhere close to being in the game. Our opponents, in contrast, know we aren't a threat. They can give about 50%, let us have possession if we want it, sit back, and wait for us to tire. You know, like most teams have since Christmas 2017.
If 50% isn't enough, they can turn it up to about 75% and score early in the second half. You know, like a whole bunch of teams have since Christmas 2017.
When one team is busting a gut just to stay alive, and one is having one of it's easiest weekends of the year, then it's pretty predictable who will look ragged by 80 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 18:17:03 GMT 1
So the title of this thread was level headed? It struck me as a thread started by a spoilt brat weh weh, throw the dummies out. I don't know if Siewart will be any good for us or not, but I wasn't one for Wagner to begin with. I got it wrong, so I'll wait to see on Wiegner before I throw my dummy out. I certainly won't judge him on this season when we were down before he'd even got here. Wiegner? Meaning Siewert i gather? You could see what Wagner was trying to do, i cant say the same for this guy and i keep saying it, but his man management isnt good. What footballing credentials does he have to offer also? Dortmund II team, not doing great their either. Because theyre a big named club etc The title of the thread isnt childish, the person is voicing his opinion, by merely stating no thanks. Childish would be your blah blah response, not to mention strange choice in Blackburn supporting username, unless thats your acutal name? After working as the assistant manager for the German under-17 and under-18 national teams,[1] Siewert signed a 3-year contract to become manager of German fourth-tier side Rot-Weiss Essen in June 2015.[2] He was sacked by the club in April 2016 after the club entered the relegation zone.[3] Siewert then became assistant manager of VfL Bochum, manager of the VfL Bochum under-19 team, and manager of Borussia Dortmund II Played for an amateur league team, got sacked by a 4th tier team for leaving them in the relegation zone. He may well be a good coach for youth level as it seems he has done ok with that and managing a Dortmund II team that produces good 1st team players in years gone by, playing against teams of lesser opposition at times. Majorly out his depth i believe at a Premier League and now Championship club. Zero credentials as a player, nor as a manager of an actual 1st team league club. Its not FIFA playing or "fuckwit" knowledge, its pure factual statistics. I bet Essen fans were having a moment when he was employed by us, bet theyre "fuckwits" too. Their, don't you mean there? Spell checker eh? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 18:27:20 GMT 1
Anyway, now the petty spell check cock waving has been done with (I won't quote you cos I don't want to fill the page up) Wagner got relegated from the German 3rd division and we were awful for the last few games of the 15-16 season. Was it 5-1 at home v Brentford last match? I wanted him gone after that, then I was proved wrong, I hold my hands up to that. He had just taken over from someone who had just got promoted from the English 3rd division with 101 points (Powell). Who is the better manager Powell or Wagner? Do you see where I'm coming from?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 18:28:06 GMT 1
Wiegner? Meaning Siewert i gather? You could see what Wagner was trying to do, i cant say the same for this guy and i keep saying it, but his man management isnt good. What footballing credentials does he have to offer also? Dortmund II team, not doing great their either. Because theyre a big named club etc The title of the thread isnt childish, the person is voicing his opinion, by merely stating no thanks. Childish would be your blah blah response, not to mention strange choice in Blackburn supporting username, unless thats your acutal name? After working as the assistant manager for the German under-17 and under-18 national teams,[1] Siewert signed a 3-year contract to become manager of German fourth-tier side Rot-Weiss Essen in June 2015.[2] He was sacked by the club in April 2016 after the club entered the relegation zone.[3] Siewert then became assistant manager of VfL Bochum, manager of the VfL Bochum under-19 team, and manager of Borussia Dortmund II Played for an amateur league team, got sacked by a 4th tier team for leaving them in the relegation zone. He may well be a good coach for youth level as it seems he has done ok with that and managing a Dortmund II team that produces good 1st team players in years gone by, playing against teams of lesser opposition at times. Majorly out his depth i believe at a Premier League and now Championship club. Zero credentials as a player, nor as a manager of an actual 1st team league club. Its not FIFA playing or "fuckwit" knowledge, its pure factual statistics. I bet Essen fans were having a moment when he was employed by us, bet theyre "fuckwits" too. Their, don't you mean there? Spell checker eh? Slight mishap, i was a sight closer than Weigner. But if thats your comeback after that, i think its you thats probably in the fuckwit category. Utter moron |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 18:29:34 GMT 1
Anyway, now the petty spell check cock waving has been done with (I won't quote you cos I don't want to fill the page up) Wagner got relegated from the German 3rd division and we were awful for the last few games of the 15-16 season. Was it 5-1 at home v Brentford last match? I wanted him gone after that, then I was proved wrong, I hold my hands up to that. He had just taken over from someone who had just got promoted from the English 3rd division with 101 points (Powell). Who is the better manager Powell or Wagner? Do you see where I'm coming from? Spell check cock waving? You brought me up on a their or there. I asked who you meant, with your Weigner as you were referring to Siewert. Spellchecker wouldnt have brought that up. I have s neaky feeling you are an utter bellsniff |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 18:34:16 GMT 1
Anyway, now the petty spell check cock waving has been done with (I won't quote you cos I don't want to fill the page up) Wagner got relegated from the German 3rd division and we were awful for the last few games of the 15-16 season. Was it 5-1 at home v Brentford last match? I wanted him gone after that, then I was proved wrong, I hold my hands up to that. He had just taken over from someone who had just got promoted from the English 3rd division with 101 points (Powell). Who is the better manager Powell or Wagner? Do you see where I'm coming from? Wagner got relegated from a league 2 below the Top division, playing against strong/older opposition with kids. Thats a bad comparison. Wagner had a good playing career at the top level. It does not mean he would be a good manager, i understand, but he is and his knowledge of the game at the highest level is brilliant. Siewert played in an amateur league, managed a 4th tier team(with men not kids) in the relegation spots and was sacked. Coaches young ones well at a bigger club. See the point here of credentials? I think Siewert may be a good coach for youth level, but not this level at all. Nothing suggests either at playing career or managerial career to say otherwise. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 18:45:50 GMT 1
Anyway, now the petty spell check cock waving has been done with (I won't quote you cos I don't want to fill the page up) Wagner got relegated from the German 3rd division and we were awful for the last few games of the 15-16 season. Was it 5-1 at home v Brentford last match? I wanted him gone after that, then I was proved wrong, I hold my hands up to that. He had just taken over from someone who had just got promoted from the English 3rd division with 101 points (Powell). Who is the better manager Powell or Wagner? Do you see where I'm coming from? Spell check cock waving? You brought me up on a their or there. I asked who you meant, with your Weigner as you were referring to Siewert. Spellchecker wouldnt have brought that up. I have s neaky feeling you are an utter bellsniff Childish? And yet youre the one calling me names. I was having a debate but fuck you arse sniffer. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 18:48:39 GMT 1
Spell check cock waving? You brought me up on a their or there. I asked who you meant, with your Weigner as you were referring to Siewert. Spellchecker wouldnt have brought that up. I have s neaky feeling you are an utter bellsniff Childish? And yet youre the one calling me names. I was having a debate but fuck you arse sniffer.i But that is exactly what you are. You have come on giving the blah blah blah statement amongst other tripe. You referred to me and others as a FIFA 19 player, so yes, you are an utter bellsniff. Its amazing, however you fail to ignore the statistical facts posted, yet focus on me giving you a name back. Great debating kid |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Apr 7, 2019 18:50:11 GMT 1
Fitness isn’t the same as talent though We've finished a few games literally on the ropes despite being “in it” versus palace and Leicester and ahead v West Ham entering the last ten mins ... our players look spent while opponents find space with ease Fitness and talent aren't separate. In this division, lads like Smith have to give 110% just stay somewhere close to being in the game. Our opponents, in contrast, know we aren't a threat. They can give about 50%, let us have possession if we want it, sit back, and wait for us to tire. You know, like most teams have since Christmas 2017.
If 50% isn't enough, they can turn it up to about 75% and score early in the second half. You know, like a whole bunch of teams have since Christmas 2017.
When one team is busting a gut just to stay alive, and one is having one of it's easiest weekends of the year, then it's pretty predictable who will look ragged by 80 minutes.
We’ve hardly played this year - out in first game in both cups. No European games We have half a dozen international players so no issue there Other players will have played far far more games We are conceding late now - 5 goals in the last 10 mins in the last three games - and that’s with Leicester and palace also missing in that period We don’t look a fit side like we used to even at this level, eg Liverpool at home they were hanging on by the end |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 19:01:42 GMT 1
Childish? And yet youre the one calling me names. I was having a debate but fuck you arse sniffer.i But that is exactly what you are. You have come on giving the blah blah blah statement amongst other tripe. You referred to me and others as a FIFA 19 player, so yes, you are an utter bellsniff. Its amazing however, you fail to ignore the statistical facts posted, yet focus on me giving you a name back. Great debating kid Ok mate. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 19:20:01 GMT 1
Yes and he's come from such a small club as well... Borussia Dortmund.... why would we ever get a manager from there and believe he could cut it? Yes, Reserves. Lets employ Ricky Sbragia, Man United Reserves manager, at least he has some league experience with Sunderland and Man United are a big club, so that logic would work. We got one before and granted Norwich Citys manager is doing well so far, but every manager ive mentioned in this reply has some form of half decent footballing experience and has gone on to manage at a half decent level, one got 2 promotions, Jan Siewert got sacked from a 4th tier German team and then went to manage the young ones. The argument you have just made is absolutely laughable and thats being nice Ooh stop being so nice to me - tell it as it is mate - do you really think that a club as big as Borussia Dortmund would trust an alleged idiot (by you) in charge of developing players for its first team? What expertise have you got besides being unable to live with disappointment? You could produce an endless list of so called experienced managers but there's no guarantee of success. In effect, you've no more idea than me of what's going to work. Siewert took over an impossible situation. I like the fact that he's willing to take tough decisions and leave out players who have clearly intimated through their agents via the press that they won't be here next season. Also he's willing to promote younger players with potential. What more can he do with a clearly understandably mentally broken squad? He's prepared to play Stankovic in a different position and he looks good there. He traditionally plays with wingers but hey both ours have been injured so he plays Lowe there. He's playing Grant instead of the you know two and fitting Kongolo alongside Schindler - what's wrong with that? It's between Hamer and Coleman in goal and hey guess what he can't bring anyone else in until the new transfer market opens... and what are you offering - after not much thought or reason - er lets change the manager again... judge him when he's had a fair crack at the job otherwise - chin up fella! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 19:56:16 GMT 1
Yes, Reserves. Lets employ Ricky Sbragia, Man United Reserves manager, at least he has some league experience with Sunderland and Man United are a big club, so that logic would work. We got one before and granted Norwich Citys manager is doing well so far, but every manager ive mentioned in this reply has some form of half decent footballing experience and has gone on to manage at a half decent level, one got 2 promotions, Jan Siewert got sacked from a 4th tier German team and then went to manage the young ones. The argument you have just made is absolutely laughable and thats being nice Ooh stop being so nice to me - tell it as it is mate - do you really think that a club as big as Borussia Dortmund would trust an alleged idiot (by you) in charge of developing players for its first team? What expertise have you got besides being unable to live with disappointment? You could produce an endless list of so called experienced managers but there's no guarantee of success. In effect, you've no more idea than me of what's going to work. Siewert took over an impossible situation. I like the fact that he's willing to take tough decisions and leave out players who have clearly intimated through their agents via the press that they won't be here next season. Also he's willing to promote younger players with potential. What more can he do with a clearly understandably mentally broken squad? He's prepared to play Stankovic in a different position and he looks good there. He traditionally plays with wingers but hey both ours have been injured so he plays Lowe there. He's playing Grant instead of the you know two and fitting Kongolo alongside Schindler - what's wrong with that? It's between Hamer and Coleman in goal and hey guess what he can't bring anyone else in until the new transfer market opens... and what are you offering - after not much thought or reason - er lets change the manager again... judge him when he's had a fair crack at the job otherwise - chin up fella! And this is where you havent really read what i have said in posts about him. Good at managing kids and as a youth coach, nowhere near good enough at the 1st team level of club, ask Rot Weiss Essen. Its between Hamer and Coleman? Its not, its between Lossl, Hamer and Coleman. Irrelevant if one is leaving, right now he is our best option to win a game. Stankovic has zero pace for that position in this league, proven on Saturday. Neither of us know what will happen, fully agree. Im bringing up actual stats, not spouting off for the sake of it. I think he is well in over his head and this will turn out to be a bad appointment, but lets see what summer brings. Like i have stated on many posts, there may be a case to argue for him to stay, relegation was nailed on, needs his own players, pre season etc. There is also a case for him to be replaced, as stated above, no personal identity, lack of man management etc. Its ok for some to call others "fuckwits" etc if they dont agree on what they say it seems. Funny that its a forum and usually contains a lot of debates. Opinions are just that and respectfully to and for are entitled to theirs. Lets have this chat in October time and see whats happened |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 20:07:13 GMT 1
Ooh stop being so nice to me - tell it as it is mate - do you really think that a club as big as Borussia Dortmund would trust an alleged idiot (by you) in charge of developing players for its first team? What expertise have you got besides being unable to live with disappointment? You could produce an endless list of so called experienced managers but there's no guarantee of success. In effect, you've no more idea than me of what's going to work. Siewert took over an impossible situation. I like the fact that he's willing to take tough decisions and leave out players who have clearly intimated through their agents via the press that they won't be here next season. Also he's willing to promote younger players with potential. What more can he do with a clearly understandably mentally broken squad? He's prepared to play Stankovic in a different position and he looks good there. He traditionally plays with wingers but hey both ours have been injured so he plays Lowe there. He's playing Grant instead of the you know two and fitting Kongolo alongside Schindler - what's wrong with that? It's between Hamer and Coleman in goal and hey guess what he can't bring anyone else in until the new transfer market opens... and what are you offering - after not much thought or reason - er lets change the manager again... judge him when he's had a fair crack at the job otherwise - chin up fella! And this is where you havent really read what i have said in posts about him. Good at managing kids and as a youth coach, nowhere near good enough at the 1st team level of club, ask Rot Weiss Essen. Its between Hamer and Coleman? Its not, its between Lossl, Hamer and Coleman. Irrelevant if one is leaving, right now he is our best option to win a game. Stankovic has zero pace for that position in this league, proven on Saturday. Neither of us know what will happen, fully agree. Im bringing up actual stats, not spouting off for the sake of it. I think he is well in over his head and this will turn out to be a bad appointment, but lets see what summer brings. Like i have stated on many posts, there may be a case to argue for him to stay, relegation was nailed on, needs his own players, pre season etc. There is also a case for him to be replaced, as stated above, no personal identity, lack of man management etc. Its ok for some to call others "fuckwits" etc if they dont agree on what they say it seems. Funny that its a forum and usually contains a lot of debates. Opinions are just that and respectfully to and for are entitled to theirs. Lets have this chat in October time and see whats happened I think you're confusing me with someone else - you're over earnest attempts to prove something is getting the better of you along with your so called statistical facts.... they're no guarantee of the future either way.... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 20:20:07 GMT 1
And this is where you havent really read what i have said in posts about him. Good at managing kids and as a youth coach, nowhere near good enough at the 1st team level of club, ask Rot Weiss Essen. Its between Hamer and Coleman? Its not, its between Lossl, Hamer and Coleman. Irrelevant if one is leaving, right now he is our best option to win a game. Stankovic has zero pace for that position in this league, proven on Saturday. Neither of us know what will happen, fully agree. Im bringing up actual stats, not spouting off for the sake of it. I think he is well in over his head and this will turn out to be a bad appointment, but lets see what summer brings. Like i have stated on many posts, there may be a case to argue for him to stay, relegation was nailed on, needs his own players, pre season etc. There is also a case for him to be replaced, as stated above, no personal identity, lack of man management etc. Its ok for some to call others "fuckwits" etc if they dont agree on what they say it seems. Funny that its a forum and usually contains a lot of debates. Opinions are just that and respectfully to and for are entitled to theirs. Lets have this chat in October time and see whats happened I think you're confusing me with someone else - you're over earnest attempts to prove something is getting the better of you along with your so called statistical facts.... they're no guarantee of the future either way.... Wasn’t aimed at you, more the ones who have the backing of JS. I’m not attempting to prove something that has already been proven to me. We could go on and on. Let’s just see where we are after 10 games and if we are doing well, I shall gladly take flack. However I can’t see it |
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Post by belvoirterrier on Apr 7, 2019 20:37:15 GMT 1
I'm not sure he has the experience,knowledge, reputation or contacts to bring in the calibre of players so badly needed next season. If we keep him on to start next season and the incoming transfers are as bad as last summer we will have thrown away our parachute payments. If there is any doubt at all and I can't see us winning another game under him this season, better to get rid before rebuilding and investing in the squad. Next season will be tough so we need to hit the ground running and regain the winning habit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 21:07:34 GMT 1
I'm not sure he has the experience,knowledge, reputation or contacts to bring in the calibre of players so badly needed next season. If we keep him on to start next season and the incoming transfers are as bad as last summer we will have thrown away our parachute payments. If there is any doubt at all and I can't see us winning another game under him this season, better to get rid before rebuilding and investing in the squad. Next season will be tough so we need to hit the ground running and regain the winning habit. What's a 'winning habit'? When did we lose it? |
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Post by dugnet on Apr 7, 2019 21:22:04 GMT 1
JS shouldn't be judged harshly on what we see on the pitch, it's a thankless task really.
Behind the scenes I am sure he will be judged on how he conducts himself and build a relationships with everyone. The players are one thing, it's difficult to be objective given they were so invested in DW. How he treats everyone else will be used to form an opinion.
If...and it is massive if, there is a doubt about his future then Hudson and Whiteheads should be in line to take us forward. Both are good characters, respected and would be fully enthusiastic about taking on the challenge.
If...and this is another big if, there is a new owner it could be all change.
The worrying thing is that we the fans desperately want to see the plan for next season and we have the encouraging rhetoric but there's no reference to the details of who, how and when things will happen. It's not in keeping with what we have come to expect from the DH era.
Interesting times indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 21:35:35 GMT 1
I'm not sure he has the experience,knowledge, reputation or contacts to bring in the calibre of players so badly needed next season. If we keep him on to start next season and the incoming transfers are as bad as last summer we will have thrown away our parachute payments. If there is any doubt at all and I can't see us winning another game under him this season, better to get rid before rebuilding and investing in the squad. Next season will be tough so we need to hit the ground running and regain the winning habit. Bet you we spend no more than £10m next season if DH is still owner, irrespective of what we make from sales. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 1:49:52 GMT 1
I'm not sure he has the experience,knowledge, reputation or contacts to bring in the calibre of players so badly needed next season. If we keep him on to start next season and the incoming transfers are as bad as last summer we will have thrown away our parachute payments. If there is any doubt at all and I can't see us winning another game under him this season, better to get rid before rebuilding and investing in the squad. Next season will be tough so we need to hit the ground running and regain the winning habit. Bet you we spend no more than £10m next season if DH is still owner, irrespective of what we make from sales. Prepared to be wrong but I agree...the accounts just published weren’t those of a club likely to splash big money to me....we’ve got increased income next three years, but the cost base has gone up a hell of a lot and will have to be brought under control rapidly if things aren’t to get too hot for Dean to prop up moving forwards. |
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Post by Kenny irons on Apr 8, 2019 1:56:40 GMT 1
I’m not calling for jan siewart to be sacked because it is the premier league we are playing in and pretty much the full squad is at a all time low. but I have seen no improvement at all since siewart came in. We have no certain philosophy of playing and we are completely wide open at the back.
I go back to Wagner first game when he came in we played Middlesbrough at home and lost 2-0, we completely bossed the game but we could see straight away the style and philosophy Wagner was trying to do, with siewart I’m seeing absolutely nothing.
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Apr 8, 2019 7:21:32 GMT 1
Just watched the game in full on DAZN, and - to be fair - we were a match for them up to about the 80m mark, when a needless free-kick was given away by Hogg, who then tried blaming someone else for his own unhinged actions, and resulted in a rather peculiar looking goal therefrom. Chins up - the scoreline was very flattering fot Foxes. Seems to me, Siewert has very far from lost the dressing room. All about opinion as ever - I just can't see how the Foxes were flattered. If you watched the whole game they could, literally, have doubled their goal tally - wild shooting three times, three good stops from Hamer and numerous last minute blocks from our defenders. I'd love to agree that we matched them for 80 minutes but, apart from a 10 minute spell in the second half, they were much the better team, with pace and passing that made us look awful at times. They had eighteen shots, nine on target. We had 4 and that includes Pritchard's "back pass" to their goalie. Thought Leicester looked the better oiled team, and certainly there was more ease-of-movement in their forward momentum. So they looked marginally slicker than Town in their build-ups. But, for me as a TV viewer at any rate, they didn't look to be posing much of a hazard (the four goals aside :-), although the second one, Vardy's I think, was offside). Things like "wild shooting, goalie making saves, and last-ditch tackles" are all part of the game (or at least should be). Having said that, I don't think they'd have been counting on Hamer having a holwler, either. Just trying to think if I missed something, but I only visited the fridge 3x during the game, so it couldn't have been that much. True though, all about opinions. For me, Leicester were only one goal better, max. two. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Apr 8, 2019 7:28:18 GMT 1
I’m not calling for jan siewart to be sacked because it is the premier league we are playing in and pretty much the full squad is at a all time low. but I have seen no improvement at all since siewart came in. We have no certain philosophy of playing and we are completely wide open at the back. I go back to Wagner first game when he came in we played Middlesbrough at home and lost 2-0, we completely bossed the game but we could see straight away the style and philosophy Wagner was trying to do, with siewart I’m seeing absolutely nothing. When Wagner took over, the change was stark in the first game, but that was due to our style before this under Powell et al. Before this time our main tactic was to try and kick the ball to the top of Dalton Bank. I don't think you will see a great change between DW and JS, because they are trying to play the same style. |
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Post by royrace on Apr 8, 2019 9:17:24 GMT 1
All about opinion as ever - I just can't see how the Foxes were flattered. If you watched the whole game they could, literally, have doubled their goal tally - wild shooting three times, three good stops from Hamer and numerous last minute blocks from our defenders. I'd love to agree that we matched them for 80 minutes but, apart from a 10 minute spell in the second half, they were much the better team, with pace and passing that made us look awful at times. They had eighteen shots, nine on target. We had 4 and that includes Pritchard's "back pass" to their goalie. Thought Leicester looked the better oiled team, and certainly there was more ease-of-movement in their forward momentum. So they looked marginally slicker than Town in their build-ups. But, for me as a TV viewer at any rate, they didn't look to be posing much of a hazard (the four goals aside :-), although the second one, Vardy's I think, was offside). Things like "wild shooting, goalie making saves, and last-ditch tackles" are all part of the game (or at least should be). Having said that, I don't think they'd have been counting on Hamer having a holwler, either. Just trying to think if I missed something, but I only visited the fridge 3x during the game, so it couldn't have been that much. True though, all about opinions. For me, Leicester were only one goal better, max. two. Ok Jan. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by royrace on Apr 8, 2019 9:20:22 GMT 1
I’m not calling for jan siewart to be sacked because it is the premier league we are playing in and pretty much the full squad is at a all time low. but I have seen no improvement at all since siewart came in. We have no certain philosophy of playing and we are completely wide open at the back. I go back to Wagner first game when he came in we played Middlesbrough at home and lost 2-0, we completely bossed the game but we could see straight away the style and philosophy Wagner was trying to do, with siewart I’m seeing absolutely nothing. When Wagner took over, the change was stark in the first game, but that was due to our style before this under Powell et al. Before this time our main tactic was to try and kick the ball to the top of Dalton Bank. I don't think you will see a great change between DW and JS, because they are trying to play the same style. The thing is there is no style, the Wagner style has gone, now we have eleven sub standard demotivated players who don't look like they've a clue what they're doing. It's just a sign of a poorly coached side, we've seen enough of it over the years to recognise it. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by kennyk2 on Apr 8, 2019 9:52:33 GMT 1
Much has been said regarding that the manager has "lost" some of the players (they certainly seemed lost on Saturday!). To recap, this stemmed primarily from the Danish contingent allegedly talking to the press saying that they would look to move at the end of this season. Lossl for one seems to think that he has interest from a couple of top teams in the French League.
What we do know is that DH bleeds blue and white, and that he holds no quarter with any kind of disloyalty, which has been shown previously. Rather than JS dropping these players, I think that his hand has been forced and and JS is under instruction from the chairman. Therefore said players will play little or no part again for this team. It is DH who is driving this one, with his hand firmly back one the tiller. Disquiet amongst some players is the normal reaction, with others also looking to get away - Haderjonaj (?), Big Belgian (?). The PL was the big draw for these players when they signed, it was not playing football for Huddersfield Town.
It's good to see that Schindler and JGS and Mooy have pledged their future to the club, although in Mooy's case, I think he will be allowed to go for the right price.
The end of the season cannot come quick enough so that we can get rid of the "bad" influence.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 9:58:04 GMT 1
Anyway, now the petty spell check cock waving has been done with (I won't quote you cos I don't want to fill the page up) Wagner got relegated from the German 3rd division and we were awful for the last few games of the 15-16 season. Was it 5-1 at home v Brentford last match? I wanted him gone after that, then I was proved wrong, I hold my hands up to that. He had just taken over from someone who had just got promoted from the English 3rd division with 101 points (Powell). Who is the better manager Powell or Wagner? Do you see where I'm coming from? Wagner got relegated from a league 2 below the Top division, playing against strong/older opposition with kids. Thats a bad comparison. Wagner had a good playing career at the top level. It does not mean he would be a good manager, i understand, but he is and his knowledge of the game at the highest level is brilliant. Siewert played in an amateur league, managed a 4th tier team(with men not kids) in the relegation spots and was sacked. Coaches young ones well at a bigger club. See the point here of credentials? I think Siewert may be a good coach for youth level, but not this level at all. Nothing suggests either at playing career or managerial career to say otherwise. i will say one thing on your post. You don't coach 2nd team at Dortmund if you havnt got the talent to do so |
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moment when he was employed by us, bet theyre "fuckwits" too. 
