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Post by willo on May 4, 2019 1:02:41 GMT 1
Are people really questioning him owning Southport? The bloke seems to love football and bought into his local non league club ( Town weren;t available ) Theyre not exactly rivals are they! The only thing of any note about his ownership of Southport that actually matters, is that he seems to have done a tremendous job there for them. I can't even be bothered (or perhaps can't keep up), reading the multitude of comments that are understandably being posted. But it wouldn't be DATM without all the negative shite being posted. It's as though people think Dean has sold the club and in the process has applied as much due diligence as the bloke that sold them a 10 yr old XR3 25 yrs ago... š I was that bloke who bought a 10 yr old XR3i around 30 yrs ago as it happens. Just hope this takeover goes better. š Going to post my thanks to Dean on the other thread as I see this one has already descended into tit-for-tat.
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 4, 2019 1:04:00 GMT 1
Are people really questioning him owning Southport? The bloke seems to love football and bought into his local non league club ( Town weren;t available ) Theyre not exactly rivals are they! The only thing of any note about his ownership of Southport that actually matters, is that he seems to have done a tremendous job there for them. I can't even be bothered (or perhaps can't keep up), reading the multitude of comments that are understandably being posted. But it wouldn't be DATM without all the negative shite being posted. It's as though people think Dean has sold the club and in the process has applied as much due diligence as the bloke that sold them a 10 yr old XR3 25 yrs ago... š You know what, there'd be a small part of me that would piss myself if Dean said I sold to this chap because I was bored of the shit I got from the narrowminded idiots that support us. Actually, it's more than a small part.
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Post by willo on May 4, 2019 1:11:07 GMT 1
Can only echo everything that has already been posted. The news seems to have been coming for some time if what you read on here is to be believed but is still actually harder to take than the news DW was going, feels very much like the end of an era now. Thanks for the memories Dean from a fan of 40+ years standing who never, ever, thought heād get to see his team play in the Premier League and with my son beside me all the way. That day at Wembley was one of the greatest days of my life and will never be forgotten. UTT
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Post by loumacari on May 4, 2019 1:21:54 GMT 1
Owned by a business with a turnover of approximately Ā£4m. Tell me this isnāt true. Sounds like the kind of operation that would appoint a manager from a 4th division German club.... oh hang on a minute!!
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 4, 2019 1:31:40 GMT 1
I watch Town more for the social side of things, so it really doesn't bother me if we're in the Championship or the EPL.
I know it's a bit pathetic on my behalf, but in line with the above, I could cope with us having very limited funds, and based on the shit I have read this year, would piss myself at the displeasure it will bring to some of the dickheads that support us.
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Post by loumacari on May 4, 2019 1:34:10 GMT 1
I watch Town more for the social side of things, so it really doesn't bother me if we're in the Championship or the EPL. I know it's a bit pathetic on my behalf, but in line with the above, I could cope with us having very limited funds, and based on the shit I have read this year, would piss myself at the displeasure it will bring to some of the dickheads that support us. Itāll bother you when weāre in League One.
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 4, 2019 1:35:26 GMT 1
I watch Town more for the social side of things, so it really doesn't bother me if we're in the Championship or the EPL. I know it's a bit pathetic on my behalf, but in line with the above, I could cope with us having very limited funds, and based on the shit I have read this year, would piss myself at the displeasure it will bring to some of the dickheads that support us. Itāll bother you when weāre in League One. Nah. Well not as much as you, looking at the crap you post.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 1:48:55 GMT 1
There were some memorable radio interviews from Dean in his pomp. What a terrific leader he has been. Amazing era on the pitch heās enabled us all to enjoy. What a ride itās been. From the early exhilaration of Lee Clarke to the results delivery & quality acquisitions of Grayson. The trials of Powell and Robins & the miracle of Wagner. These were the days of our lives. Thank you Dean Hoyle.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 4, 2019 6:48:03 GMT 1
Gutted that Deanos leaving - who wouldnāt be after all heās done and achieved
Confident though that he will have secured his legacy by passing the baton on to a āone of our ownā and not some businessman who couldnāt point to Huddersfield on a map let alone āgetā our community and what our support is about
Those wanting big money investors whose motivation for a either healthy return on investment or a plaything to show to their rich mates just need to look at all the times itās gone wrong - and itās more often than the times it worked
Good luck and welcome to Phil and look forward to his new impetus, ideas and enthusiasm progressing the club in a sensible calculated way - we could easily go the way of Bolton who not long ago had their rich benefactor so itās crucial fans have some realism this summer on what we spend, Norwich and Sheffield Utd showed you donāt need huge budgets to get up
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 4, 2019 6:58:49 GMT 1
The blokeās a titan in Huddersfield history and in the future will be remembered up with the elite of people who shaped and transformed our club in the 20ās
We almost certainly wonāt see his like again
In a job you should leave it in better shape than you found it ... he has transformed us; support base has doubled, team now full of internationals (we signed a guy for ā¬20m!), ground (we now have a stake), community work that improves lives and shows the good football can do and with state of the art training facilities to come
He made possible some of the best memories of my life
Legend is used to freely but unquestionably dean is legend
Enjoy your retirement and thank you for all the memories
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Post by mids on May 4, 2019 6:58:55 GMT 1
worst case scenario is this, no summer investment = league 1 here we come This summer will probably be the busiest ever. Money will be spent/invested and we will recoup a fortune too that will effectively make some of the signings of our premier league era seem like just expensive loans It's all fine. Dean has been ill. Dean hasn't lost his morals or integrity. Nor will he have sold to any old Joe. In fact his interview basically said Dean headhunted Phil
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Post by loumacari on May 4, 2019 7:02:31 GMT 1
worst case scenario is this, no summer investment = league 1 here we come This summer will probably be the busiest ever. Money will be spent/invested and we will recoup a fortune too that will effectively make some of the signings of our premier league era seem like just expensive loans It's all fine. Dean has been ill. Dean hasn't lost his morals or integrity. Nor will he have sold to any old Joe. In fact his interview basically said Dean headhunted Phil Whereās the money coming from? A guy with a business that turns over Ā£4m canāt afford to bankroll a football club.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 4, 2019 7:04:24 GMT 1
I can't even be bothered (or perhaps can't keep up), reading the multitude of comments that are understandably being posted. But it wouldn't be DATM without all the negative shite being posted. It's as though people think Dean has sold the club and in the process has applied as much due diligence as the bloke that sold them a 10 yr old XR3 25 yrs ago... š I was that bloke who bought a 10 yr old XR3i around 30 yrs ago as it happens. Just hope this takeover goes better. š Going to post my thanks to Dean on the other thread as I see this one has already descended into tit-for-tat. So did I. Bastard thing always kept cutting out towards the top of windy hill. Did the job I needed it for for Ā£600 though...
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Post by El Mel on May 4, 2019 7:16:13 GMT 1
This summer will probably be the busiest ever. Money will be spent/invested and we will recoup a fortune too that will effectively make some of the signings of our premier league era seem like just expensive loans It's all fine. Dean has been ill. Dean hasn't lost his morals or integrity. Nor will he have sold to any old Joe. In fact his interview basically said Dean headhunted Phil Whereās the money coming from? A guy with a business that turns over Ā£4m canāt afford to bankroll a football club. I keep making this point. The football club is cash rich. It doesn't need 'bankrolling' What it needs is somebody to run it who knows how to operate a football club efficiently. Then maybe somebody with 10 years of experience in the background if needed. For all we know, Dean could have sold the club for pennies to allow as much funding to stay in place for the medium term future if the club. This notion that Phil doesn't have the money to run a football club is horseshit.
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Post by mickwadsworth26 on May 4, 2019 7:23:47 GMT 1
It isnāt horseshit
Itās only cash rich whilst the parachute payments last - when itās back to normal it was losing 5-10 mil a year in championship - that needs a benefactor
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Post by loumacari on May 4, 2019 7:26:58 GMT 1
Whereās the money coming from? A guy with a business that turns over Ā£4m canāt afford to bankroll a football club. I keep making this point. The football club is cash rich. It doesn't need 'bankrolling' What it needs is somebody to run it who knows how to operate a football club efficiently. Then maybe somebody with 10 years of experience in the background if needed. For all we know, Dean could have sold the club for pennies to allow as much funding to stay in place for the medium term future if the club. This notion that Phil doesn't have the money to run a football club is horseshit. Itās not cash rich. The last accounts showed cash at bank of Ā£6.4m and directors loans of Ā£50m. True Dean might not want that money back but it has a Ā£64m wage bill this year and next year itās income will be circa Ā£50m. That wage bill will be trimmed significantly but in 3 years time the income will be back to being Ā£10-11m again. Football is an expensive business and to suggest we can survive and progress without being propped up by financial support is madness.
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Post by Mav on May 4, 2019 7:35:18 GMT 1
worst case scenario is this, no summer investment = league 1 here we come This summer will probably be the busiest ever. Money will be spent/invested and we will recoup a fortune too that will effectively make some of the signings of our premier league era seem like just expensive loans It's all fine. Dean has been ill. Dean hasn't lost his morals or integrity. Nor will he have sold to any old Joe. In fact his interview basically said Dean headhunted Phil And he remains on the board to ensure continuity. Good move all round. Relax.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 4, 2019 7:35:28 GMT 1
There were some memorable radio interviews from Dean in his pomp. What a terrific leader he has been. Amazing era on the pitch heās enabled us all to enjoy. What a ride itās been. From the early exhilaration of Lee Clarke to the results delivery & quality acquisitions of Grayson. The trials of Powell and Robins & the miracle of Wagner. These were the days of our lives. Thank you Dean Hoyle. There's a Queen song in there somewhere.
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Post by El Mel on May 4, 2019 7:41:28 GMT 1
I keep making this point. The football club is cash rich. It doesn't need 'bankrolling' What it needs is somebody to run it who knows how to operate a football club efficiently. Then maybe somebody with 10 years of experience in the background if needed. For all we know, Dean could have sold the club for pennies to allow as much funding to stay in place for the medium term future if the club. This notion that Phil doesn't have the money to run a football club is horseshit. Itās not cash rich. The last accounts showed cash at bank of Ā£6.4m and directors loans of Ā£50m. True Dean might not want that money back but it has a Ā£64m wage bill this year and next year itās income will be circa Ā£50m. That wage bill will be trimmed significantly but in 3 years time the income will be back to being Ā£10-11m again. Football is an expensive business and to suggest we can survive and progress without being propped up by financial support is madness.And you know there is no financial support in place, if needed do you?
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Post by royrace on May 4, 2019 7:43:37 GMT 1
It isnāt horseshit Itās only cash rich whilst the parachute payments last - when itās back to normal it was losing 5-10 mil a year in championship - that needs a benefactor Exactly. Under normal circumstances, with no parachute payments, the club loses millions per year. Dean has funded those losses, Phil clearly can't afford to, so personally I'm a little confused as to the plan going forward. Maybe Dean's q and a will provide some insight. My feelings are the parachute payments will need to stretch for way more than three years. That means fire sale and bargain basement shopping over the summer. Hope I'm wrong and there is other money otherwise the sums don't add up. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards
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Post by rastrick32 on May 4, 2019 7:44:00 GMT 1
There were some memorable radio interviews from Dean in his pomp. What a terrific leader he has been. Amazing era on the pitch heās enabled us all to enjoy. What a ride itās been. From the early exhilaration of Lee Clarke to the results delivery & quality acquisitions of Grayson. The trials of Powell and Robins & the miracle of Wagner. These were the days of our lives. Thank you Dean Hoyle. There's a Queen song in there somewhere. Radio Ga Ga?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 7:44:11 GMT 1
Whereās the money coming from? A guy with a business that turns over Ā£4m canāt afford to bankroll a football club. I keep making this point. The football club is cash rich. It doesn't need 'bankrolling' What it needs is somebody to run it who knows how to operate a football club efficiently. Then maybe somebody with 10 years of experience in the background if needed. For all we know, Dean could have sold the club for pennies to allow as much funding to stay in place for the medium term future if the club. This notion that Phil doesn't have the money to run a football club is horseshit. Elaborate on how this club is ācash richā please.
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Post by townrwe on May 4, 2019 7:45:16 GMT 1
It seems a strange turn of events, someone who would struggle to buy a decent mansion suddenly taking over a premier league football club...
You can only presume he is the owner In principle, but has someone behind him? Is deano committed to continuing funding the club without the ownership? Why retain a 25% stake something he said he would never do?
Phil and Jan have my full backing, but it all feels abit Mark Robin's or Powell. Rather than inspirational.
BUT.... We need to give him our full backing. Phil and Jan have taken over after one of our best owners and one of our best managers of all time.... and probabaly the best combination of the two ever. Its a massively difficult task for the pair of them, but like deano says in his interview, you strive to leave the club in a better position than the last incumbents. Phil will ultimately be judged on sucess or failure.... which he is now in control of.
GOOD LUCK PHIL, THANKS DEANO.
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Post by El Mel on May 4, 2019 7:45:42 GMT 1
It isnāt horseshit Itās only cash rich whilst the parachute payments last - when itās back to normal it was losing 5-10 mil a year in championship - that needs a benefactor Does it. Is that what football is and what football fans have become. "I want a billionaire and I want one NOW WAH WAH WAH.." What the club needs, is a guy at the helm who keeps the interests of the club at heart, who knows how to operate the business on a stringent budget while moving the club forward. Dean only invested peanuts compared to some other clubs we have superseded in the last 10 years. If you want to follow a club that buys success, Man City is just over t'hill.
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Post by boooothy on May 4, 2019 7:52:01 GMT 1
Obviously there will be more details to come but on the face of it this sounds like terrible news.
Hope you all enjoyed the Premier League cause we are never going back.
Dean has obviously been the best thing to ever happen to this football club but surely we were all hoping for the happy ending where we got passed on to some billionaire, not someone with a business that sounds like it sells jazz mags.
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Post by terrierhx on May 4, 2019 7:53:40 GMT 1
First post so firstly, Hi to all.....
Iām struggling to understand those showing negativity at this situation. Disappointment in Dean moving on yes, but why the negativity.
Every day in sports media you hear that fans want people at the helm that understand the DNA of the club. Dean himself has confirmed that he āchoseā Phil and is also maintaining a stake, so in effect, you have a handover from the clubs most successful chairman to the new chairman elect. Every post I see holds Dean in the very highest regard so why some folk then seem to believe that Dean would sell to someone incapable of taking the club forward, seems very odd to me.
So in Dean we trust. He has asked that everyone gets behind the new owner and give him the full support. Dean is our man - letās ensure he gets the send off he deserves on Sunday,
Phil is Deanās man - letās get behind him and give him every support from day one!
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Post by mickwadsworth26 on May 4, 2019 7:56:50 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town cannot compete in the championship without a benefactor. Huddersfield Town lost circa 5 million a season in the championship. If we are not promoted in the next three seasons, once the parachute money is gone then the club will need to shrink. If you strip out the parachute payments Barnsley have wealthier owners than town now
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 7:57:14 GMT 1
It isnāt horseshit Itās only cash rich whilst the parachute payments last - when itās back to normal it was losing 5-10 mil a year in championship - that needs a benefactor Does it. Is that what football is and what football fans have become. "I want a billionaire and I want one NOW WAH WAH WAH.." What the club needs, is a guy at the helm who keeps the interests of the club at heart, who knows how to operate the business on a stringent budget while moving the club forward. Dean only invested peanuts compared to some other clubs we have superseded in the last 10 years. If you want to follow a club that buys success, Man City is just over t'hill. You have just gone to previously say we are cash rich. You have gone on to give the billionaire "wah wah wah" bit, to which this guy has not mentioned at all. Dean did only invest "peanuts" and should we have not got promoted, would still be losing a fortune. Dean had the funds available, i am failing to see where ours will come from, should we be loitering in mid table in the Championship in 3 years time. It will be back to shrewd business sales, buys etc but still losing money as per before. But we are "cash rich" so we should be fine eh?
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on May 4, 2019 7:57:24 GMT 1
This summer will probably be the busiest ever. Money will be spent/invested and we will recoup a fortune too that will effectively make some of the signings of our premier league era seem like just expensive loans It's all fine. Dean has been ill. Dean hasn't lost his morals or integrity. Nor will he have sold to any old Joe. In fact his interview basically said Dean headhunted Phil Whereās the money coming from? A guy with a business that turns over Ā£4m canāt afford to bankroll a football club. FFS!
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Post by El Mel on May 4, 2019 7:58:45 GMT 1
I keep making this point. The football club is cash rich. It doesn't need 'bankrolling' What it needs is somebody to run it who knows how to operate a football club efficiently. Then maybe somebody with 10 years of experience in the background if needed. For all we know, Dean could have sold the club for pennies to allow as much funding to stay in place for the medium term future if the club. This notion that Phil doesn't have the money to run a football club is horseshit. Elaborate on how this club is ācash richā please. We are heading into the championship with a guaranteed income of over Ā£40M for the next 12 months, plus player sales. That could quite feasiibly give us around Ā£70M couldn't it - assuming Kongolo, Billing, and Mooy are all off? All remaining players will take a significant wage cut. How much do you think we will need to run the business next season?
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