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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 12:45:04 GMT 1
We might as well be glass half full as what will be will be. It all depends on who comes in & then we will have a much better indication of how good a manager Jan is - only next season will we know which players have responded to him & who haven't & what style of play he wants to use - hopefully, this pre-season we pick players who are a lot more effective than last. There will still be quite a few teams prepared to flash more cash than us in the Championship but spending big does not always equate to success. You win things with a team that is better than its individual parts, as per our success a couple of years ago. Just like our last promotion season, I think we could finish absolutely anywhere in the division, from top to bottom, but unfortunately, then I was spurred on by what I could see DW was trying to implement. I'm certainly not writing Jan off just yet but he has a much tougher job than David did, as now the expectations are a lot higher, though to counteract that, the squad he has SHOULD (in theory) be better than the one David inherited. I'm still really looking to the season ahead. well said verygrounded post |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 12:49:20 GMT 1
The only noises I’m getting are of a managed decline I just hope that’s to the championship and not further down. Rookie foreign manager, disbanding squad, trying to keep hold of players, financial pressures etc. Really hope the fans get a better effort than last season from the club. I hope the noises stop joe they send out mixed messages. |
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Post by bluestripe on May 30, 2019 13:04:17 GMT 1
I just hope we're not hovering around the drop zone all season, as we were up to when DW arrived...Sniffing around the top 6 will keep us interested,keep the fans on song and hopefully encourage us to launch a serious bid in the january window to push us over the line come May time.. The best thing would be to start the season with 6 or 7 victories, getting our name in the headlines and instilling belief in the players of our manager and his methods... This is what DW got.. 5 wins and a draw in our first 6 games, with only 3 playes starting the new season that finished the previous one... If JS can replicate that we could have a chance... Surely the best thing would be to start with 46 victories. 😁 |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on May 30, 2019 13:36:53 GMT 1
Optimism on DATM?! This is going to be a short thread!
I’m with you though, so many unknowns at the moment, so no reason to be negative unless that’s a permanent state of mind for some people.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on May 30, 2019 13:47:18 GMT 1
Glass very much half empty for me. I expect a long, hard slog of a season with us not being quite relegation threatened, but not bothering the top 8 either. Signings will be underwhelming, Hodgkinson will disappoint a lot of fans, Siewart will do probably Just enough to keep his job until Xmas at least. Obviously I hope I'm wrong. Still looking forward to it though, as I love the complete unpredictability of the Championship. the only people that in your words hodgkinson will disappoint or those who are totally un realistic in who we may or may not bring in. Time will tell but I think even the least 'expectant' of fans may end up disappointed. |
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Post by keithAM11532 on May 30, 2019 13:48:26 GMT 1
The early part of the transfer window is always slow. Most contracts run to the end of June so that players can go sun themselves on the beach. Nice life. I have a feeling that we will struggle to be attractive against the top half of the championship competition, therefore we will have to recruit from abroad again. (or younger homegrown untried). Is that going to give us a top six side. I don't know. I remain a half full glass because I generally am until we have been spanked repeatedly. The current squad would not have finished in the top half of the championship had they been playing last season. Something has to change therefore, but I don't know yet, what that change will be.
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 30, 2019 13:52:50 GMT 1
I sure hope so as I had an email from the club yesterday saying only 80 SC left to purchase,non performance from the club would mean almost 18K folk conned. Conned......some right idiots on here. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 14:25:52 GMT 1
I'm optimistic i will actually see a win next season  14 home games last season without seeing one (midweek games can be a struggle to get to with having young kids). My hope is a playoff push, my expectation is mid to lower table. I am looking forward to it though, there should be very few games next season that we shouldn't feel able to win. Last season was soul destroying at times. |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jun 1, 2019 22:42:59 GMT 1
The early part of the transfer window is always slow. Most contracts run to the end of June so that players can go sun themselves on the beach. Nice life. I have a feeling that we will struggle to be attractive against the top half of the championship competition, therefore we will have to recruit from abroad again. (or younger homegrown untried). Is that going to give us a top six side. I don't know. I remain a half full glass because I generally am until we have been spanked repeatedly. The current squad would not have finished in the top half of the championship had they been playing last season. Something has to change therefore, but I don't know yet, what that change will be. Wait till Monday 🙊 This week you will see things taking shape. |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Jun 1, 2019 22:52:35 GMT 1
The early part of the transfer window is always slow. Most contracts run to the end of June so that players can go sun themselves on the beach. Nice life. I have a feeling that we will struggle to be attractive against the top half of the championship competition, therefore we will have to recruit from abroad again. (or younger homegrown untried). Is that going to give us a top six side. I don't know. I remain a half full glass because I generally am until we have been spanked repeatedly. The current squad would not have finished in the top half of the championship had they been playing last season. Something has to change therefore, but I don't know yet, what that change will be. Wait till Monday 🙊 This week you will see things taking shape. Well I hope you are right Sir. |
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Post by turbo2 on Jun 1, 2019 23:26:43 GMT 1
The early part of the transfer window is always slow. Most contracts run to the end of June so that players can go sun themselves on the beach. Nice life. I have a feeling that we will struggle to be attractive against the top half of the championship competition, therefore we will have to recruit from abroad again. (or younger homegrown untried). Is that going to give us a top six side. I don't know. I remain a half full glass because I generally am until we have been spanked repeatedly. The current squad would not have finished in the top half of the championship had they been playing last season. Something has to change therefore, but I don't know yet, what that change will be. I think we’d have been promoted with that squad But the squad will be decimated with folk leaving Not sure how anyone can begin to judge what will happen next season until 3 or 4 weeks in |
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Post by ponteterrier on Jun 1, 2019 23:55:09 GMT 1
Optimistic to me is thinking we will be top 10. We are transitioning from the wagner era to something new. His squad massively over achieved two years running before bombing so I won't be expecting huge things from them. Mid table will do me in this first season
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Post by keithAM11532 on Jun 2, 2019 15:20:02 GMT 1
The early part of the transfer window is always slow. Most contracts run to the end of June so that players can go sun themselves on the beach. Nice life. I have a feeling that we will struggle to be attractive against the top half of the championship competition, therefore we will have to recruit from abroad again. (or younger homegrown untried). Is that going to give us a top six side. I don't know. I remain a half full glass because I generally am until we have been spanked repeatedly. The current squad would not have finished in the top half of the championship had they been playing last season. Something has to change therefore, but I don't know yet, what that change will be. I think we’d have been promoted with that squad But the squad will be decimated with folk leaving Not sure how anyone can begin to judge what will happen next season until 3 or 4 weeks in Promoted. Hmm, we did not fair well against Bristol City. Mind you, I did not watch any championship games so I have no evidence whatsoever to underpin my opinion. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jun 2, 2019 16:57:45 GMT 1
I think we’d have been promoted with that squad But the squad will be decimated with folk leaving Not sure how anyone can begin to judge what will happen next season until 3 or 4 weeks in Promoted. Hmm, we did not fair well against Bristol City. Mind you, I did not watch any championship games so I have no evidence whatsoever to underpin my opinion. I have no idea why people use the FA Cup as a yardstick. It has nothing to do with where you are as a club. Only a few years ago we held Man City to a 0-0 at home, does that mean we would have been a good Premier League team? |
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Post by jqhtfc on Jun 2, 2019 17:16:52 GMT 1
Really could go either way, really does depend so much on what we do in the transfer window back the manager probably we could be in for a cracking season don’t and players aren’t properly replaced it could be a long old drag, will be an interesting couple of months that’s for sure.
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Post by Mounié Talks on Jun 2, 2019 17:20:14 GMT 1
At the moment there seems very little to be optimistic about other then financially we are in a good state ( which given most other clubs out there we should really be grateful for).
We have an untested manager who appears to be like marmite amongst the players, very little Champ experience in the squad ( Championship for me is the toughest league in Europe). No signings on the horizon even though we have known since March we are down ( arguably known before then), a chairman who again has no experience in Football.
In arguably one of the biggest transfer windows in history we have nobody in charge and relying on the same team who oversaw a recruitment policy that led us to being the 3rd worst side in Premier league history.
Siewert, Hodgkinson and the club may surprise me and I hope they do but at the moment blind faith is not going to cut it for me.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jun 2, 2019 17:42:50 GMT 1
At the moment there seems very little to be optimistic about other then financially we are in a good state ( which given most other clubs out there we should really be grateful for). We have an untested manager who appears to be like marmite amongst the players, very little Champ experience in the squad ( Championship for me is the toughest league in Europe). No signings on the horizon even though we have known since March we are down ( arguably known before then), a chairman who again has no experience in Football. In arguably one of the biggest transfer windows in history we have nobody in charge and relying on the same team who oversaw a recruitment policy that led us to being the 3rd worst side in Premier league history. Siewert, Hodgkinson and the club may surprise me and I hope they do but at the moment blind faith is not going to cut it for me. When you say no Championship experience do you mean apart from Smith, Schindler, Stankovic, Hogg, Mooy, Pritchard, Billing and Kachunga? And If these players leave do you think we won’t replace them? |
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Post by andyeastleake on Jun 2, 2019 17:44:10 GMT 1
The early part of the transfer window is always slow. Most contracts run to the end of June so that players can go sun themselves on the beach. Nice life. I have a feeling that we will struggle to be attractive against the top half of the championship competition, therefore we will have to recruit from abroad again. (or younger homegrown untried). Is that going to give us a top six side. I don't know. I remain a half full glass because I generally am until we have been spanked repeatedly. The current squad would not have finished in the top half of the championship had they been playing last season. Something has to change therefore, but I don't know yet, what that change will be. I think we’d have been promoted with that squad But the squad will be decimated with folk leaving Not sure how anyone can begin to judge what will happen next season until 3 or 4 weeks in Turbo's spot on. Last season's squad would have been promoted, but who knows about next year. I've never known a period between seasons when I had less idea of what was going to happen than this. Not sure I'd be confident of naming half our starting 11 on opening day as it stands. Best price 18/1 doesn't seem generous IMHO (although of course it might be). |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jun 2, 2019 18:21:14 GMT 1
Im willing to give him 12 games to see, if we are only mid table then, he should go imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 18:57:21 GMT 1
Im willing to give him 12 games to see, if we are only mid table then, he should go imo. Careful what you wish for. After 12 games last season Wendies were 6th and Villa 15th. Finished Wendies 12th (mid table) and Villa? How about we judge on performances instead? |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jun 2, 2019 19:01:08 GMT 1
Im willing to give him 12 games to see, if we are only mid table then, he should go imo. If we're knocking around the bottom around that time, then he should go. I'd be fine with mid table. We've got to be realistic. |
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Post by hypotenuse on Jun 2, 2019 20:01:12 GMT 1
Norwich started last season really badly - there were murmurings of discontent and talk of Farke being sacked.
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Post by conman on Jun 2, 2019 20:04:44 GMT 1
Im willing to give him 12 games to see, if we are only mid table then, he should go imo. Careful what you wish for. After 12 games last season Wendies were 6th and Villa 15th. Finished Wendies 12th (mid table) and Villa? How about we judge on performances instead? Plus leeds were romping it at the top, points clear and preparing the Beeston lamp posts ready for the "We are premier league" banners.. |
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Jun 2, 2019 20:31:31 GMT 1
According to Oddschecker, the most popular bet (by a long way) for promotion is Huddersfield at 5/1.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 20:40:57 GMT 1
Im willing to give him 12 games to see, if we are only mid table then, he should go imo. dear me lad stay at home |
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Post by Maynardblue on Jun 2, 2019 21:17:43 GMT 1
According to Oddschecker, the most popular bet (by a long way) for promotion is Huddersfield at 5/1. People must have heard something that we haven't then... Or maybe it's the reverse |
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Post by Wingman on Jun 2, 2019 21:38:19 GMT 1
Im willing to give him 12 games to see, if we are only mid table then, he should go imo. Careful what you wish for. After 12 games last season Wendies were 6th and Villa 15th. Finished Wendies 12th (mid table) and Villa? How about we judge on performances instead? But also they both changed their Managers, which makes a huge difference. I’m prepared to see how Siewart does but there will be a point that if we start off poorly, he may get his collar felt. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 21:42:47 GMT 1
Careful what you wish for. After 12 games last season Wendies were 6th and Villa 15th. Finished Wendies 12th (mid table) and Villa? How about we judge on performances instead? But also they both changed their Managers, which makes a huge difference. I’m prepared to see how Siewart does but there will be a point that if we start off poorly, he may get his collar felt. Nicks idea of poor is mid table, that isn't mine. Just to add, yes they did change managers, fat lot of good it did Wendies. I say again, careful what you wish for. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 22:18:27 GMT 1
Have to say I'm with Nick. Maybe not on the bit of sacking him if we're only mid table after 12 games but I'd be dissapointed if we only finish mid table. I am a realist, I was pleased with just staying up when we first got into championship but we should be challenging for promotion next season.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jun 2, 2019 22:20:32 GMT 1
Have to say I'm with Nick. Maybe not on the bit of sacking him if we're only mid table after 12 games but I'd be dissapointed if we only finish mid table. I am a realist, I was pleased with just staying up when we first got into championship but we should be challenging for promotion next season. Anything less than playoffs will be a failure, we have been a premier team for two years. |
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14 home games last season without seeing one (midweek games can be a struggle to get to with having young kids).
