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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 21:54:32 GMT 1
Ref has been terrible, as to be expected in this tournament. Fallen for every US trick. Ellen White has to take the penalty for me. We certainly don’t deserve to go out like this. Yes we do, we've been crap How so? The equaliser that was disallowed by VAR would never have been questioned if it stood. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 21:55:51 GMT 1
You saying we’ve been crap make me believe what I said even more. Can't be arsed to go find it but I bet our unforced errors stat doesn't make for pretty reading 'Unforced errors' LOL is this rugby or tennis or something? |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 2, 2019 21:56:14 GMT 1
Same old
53 years of hurt,
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 2, 2019 21:56:24 GMT 1
Yes we do, we've been crap How so? The equaliser that was disallowed by VAR would never have been questioned if it stood. Well it was offside so i think it would have been questioned I've no issue with VAR being used for offside. It's black and white. You're either onside or offside. People don't seem to be able to get to grips with the right decision being made when it comes to these tight offside calls |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Jul 2, 2019 21:56:49 GMT 1
Sense and home truths from Alex Scott as usual.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 2, 2019 21:57:50 GMT 1
best team won. england were gash.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 2, 2019 21:57:53 GMT 1
At least we can watch those yummy USA players in final.
Silver lining.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 21:58:05 GMT 1
How so? The equaliser that was disallowed by VAR would never have been questioned if it stood. Well it was offside so i think it would have been questioned I've no issue with VAR being used for offside. It's black and white. You're either onside or offside. People don't seem to be able to get to grips with the right decision being made when it comes to these tight offside calls Because we was told var was not for tight decisions. It was for obvious errors. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 2, 2019 21:59:31 GMT 1
At least we can watch those yummy USA players in final. Silver lining. We've been waiting all night for your valued input on tonight's proceedings Nick. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 2, 2019 22:00:25 GMT 1
At least we can watch those yummy USA players in final. Silver lining. We've been waiting all night for your valued input on tonight's proceedings Nick. he's not wrong though is he?  |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 2, 2019 22:00:26 GMT 1
Well it was offside so i think it would have been questioned I've no issue with VAR being used for offside. It's black and white. You're either onside or offside. People don't seem to be able to get to grips with the right decision being made when it comes to these tight offside calls Because we was told var was not for tight decisions. It was for obvious errors. That was for non offside related decisions wasn't it? You can't have clear and obvious errors with offside. Where would you draw the line as to what is and isn't obvious? If you're offside you're offside simple as that. Everyone knows that is the case and with time will get used to it |
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Post by Town Duppy on Jul 2, 2019 22:01:27 GMT 1
Same old 53 years of hurt, When is your release? |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jul 2, 2019 22:02:03 GMT 1
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 2, 2019 22:02:07 GMT 1
We get told VAR is for definites not opinions .. The BBC looked at it over and over and it was 100% inconclusive imo I honestly don't know how they can say that's a pen. The football authorities should take a good look at this tournament and throw VAR in the bin. Those two decisions are absolutely terrible The handball decisions have been just as bad throughout |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 2, 2019 22:03:14 GMT 1
simply don't understand englands tactics tonight. in an open game we would get beat so we pick an open formation and basically play right into their hands. I'd have liked to see some hard as nails rough stuff, with a bit of mud wrestling thrown in...
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Post by wigster on Jul 2, 2019 22:03:52 GMT 1
All about opinions as ever, but I thought the ref was excellent.
For me we were carrying too many passengers - players that weren't good enough (the left side of our defence, 2 of our midfield) and one or two that flattered to deceive - Parris reminded me so much of VLP - exciting for 30 minutes 4 matches ago and then absolutely nothing since then.
Still, having said that,I cared much more about tonight's result than watching our millionaire men in their internationals.
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 2, 2019 22:04:40 GMT 1
Because we was told var was not for tight decisions. It was for obvious errors. That was for non offside related decisions wasn't it? You can't have clear and obvious errors with offside. Where would you draw the line as to what is and isn't obvious? If you're offside you're offside simple as that. Everyone knows that is the case and with time will get used to it People are 3 dimensional. You can’t had a 1 dimensional line to make a decision. Simple They didnt even freeze frame at the point of the pass and zoom in Absolute shocking decision |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 2, 2019 22:06:46 GMT 1
That was for non offside related decisions wasn't it? You can't have clear and obvious errors with offside. Where would you draw the line as to what is and isn't obvious? If you're offside you're offside simple as that. Everyone knows that is the case and with time will get used to it People are 3 dimensional. You can’t had a 1 dimensional line to make a decision. Simple They didnt even freeze frame at the point of the pass and zoom in Absolute shocking decision The VAR operators are seeing far more angles than we get to see |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 22:07:23 GMT 1
Because we was told var was not for tight decisions. It was for obvious errors. That was for non offside related decisions wasn't it? You can't have clear and obvious errors with offside. Where would you draw the line as to what is and isn't obvious? If you're offside you're offside simple as that. Everyone knows that is the case and with time will get used to it Just looked it up. You are correct offside is black and white with VAR which i think is a shame. Especially when it is so miniscule. I expect front men trying to break the offside trap or playing on the last man etc to dissapear if your toe can be offside. |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Jul 2, 2019 22:07:26 GMT 1
Yes you've watched a prerecorded program that anyone can watch at any time as opposed to watching something unfold live. What is the point of your post? |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 2, 2019 22:08:42 GMT 1
Millie Bright. Claire Balding. That is all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 22:10:12 GMT 1
Ah well, gutted for the girls but “we go again”.
Proper enjoyed watching them over the past 3/4 weeks.
They’ve done themselves and the country proud.
Women’s football is on the up and there’s nothing the naysayers can do about it. That game tonight was 10x more entertaining than the Champions league final!!
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 2, 2019 22:10:19 GMT 1
People are 3 dimensional. You can’t had a 1 dimensional line to make a decision. Simple They didnt even freeze frame at the point of the pass and zoom in Absolute shocking decision The VAR operators are seeing far more angles than we get to see There is no definitive angle. Angles skew the picture That’s simple maths. They would need a camera travelling with the last player at all times Also if the operator is seeing stuff then it needs sharing with the audience. The big clubs will get double the amount of decision than they already get |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 2, 2019 22:10:44 GMT 1
That was for non offside related decisions wasn't it? You can't have clear and obvious errors with offside. Where would you draw the line as to what is and isn't obvious? If you're offside you're offside simple as that. Everyone knows that is the case and with time will get used to it Just looked it up. You are correct offside is black and white with VAR which i think i a shame. Especially when it is so miniscule. I expect front men trying to break the offside trap or playing on the ladt etc to dissapear if your toe can be offside. But linesmen have been flagging strikers offside when they've been onside for the last 40 years and people just accepted it. I don't understand why people would prefer to see incorrect calls that definitely don't even themselves out over a season than a system which can accurately determine offside in a few seconds |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 2, 2019 22:12:16 GMT 1
Ah well, gutted for the girls but “we go again”. Proper enjoyed watching them over the past 3/4 weeks. They’ve done themselves and the country proud. Women’s football is on the up and there’s nothing the naysayers can do about it. That game tonight was 10x more entertaining than the Champions league final!! You do realise that as the women's game improves it will become less entertaining because they will actually learn how to defend |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 22:12:43 GMT 1
Just looked it up. You are correct offside is black and white with VAR which i think i a shame. Especially when it is so miniscule. I expect front men trying to break the offside trap or playing on the ladt etc to dissapear if your toe can be offside. But linesmen have been flagging strikers offside when they've been onside for the last 40 years and people just accepted it. I don't understand why people would prefer to see incorrect calls that definitely don't even themselves out over a season than a system which can accurately determine offside in a few seconds Because the benefit of the doubt was with the attacking team. Duhhhh 😉 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 22:13:04 GMT 1
Just looked it up. You are correct offside is black and white with VAR which i think i a shame. Especially when it is so miniscule. I expect front men trying to break the offside trap or playing on the ladt etc to dissapear if your toe can be offside. But linesmen have been flagging strikers offside when they've been onside for the last 40 years and people just accepted it. I don't understand why people would prefer to see incorrect calls that definitely don't even themselves out over a season than a system which can accurately determine offside in a few seconds I agree with that but if we are going to be literally splitting hairs at least call level onside. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jul 2, 2019 22:13:09 GMT 1
Thanks for letting us know. Again... |
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Post by Town Duppy on Jul 2, 2019 22:14:15 GMT 1
I have enjoyed this thread immensely. With the "bird's playing football is like u11" camp to the "ladies don't dive and are more entertaining I prefer it to the men's game" camp.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 2, 2019 22:14:19 GMT 1
But linesmen have been flagging strikers offside when they've been onside for the last 40 years and people just accepted it. I don't understand why people would prefer to see incorrect calls that definitely don't even themselves out over a season than a system which can accurately determine offside in a few seconds Because the benefit of the doubt was with the attacking team. Duhhhh Read my post again. Strikers being flagged offside when they were on |
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