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Post by blueray4 on Jun 19, 2019 21:55:10 GMT 1
Is gonna f*** this game up. Another good reason to not be a part of the PL
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Post by Town Duppy on Jun 19, 2019 22:29:36 GMT 1
Is gonna f*** this game up. Another good reason to not be a part of the PL Unfortunatley you can't get the s**t back in the horse. |
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Jun 19, 2019 22:33:57 GMT 1
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Post by basil on Jun 19, 2019 22:33:57 GMT 1
Is gonna f*** this game up. Another good reason to not be a part of the PL Unfortunatley you can't get the s**t back in the horse. Cue for another Brexit thread. |
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Jun 19, 2019 22:40:28 GMT 1
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Post by Town Duppy on Jun 19, 2019 22:40:28 GMT 1
Unfortunatley you can't get the s**t back in the horse. Cue for another Brexit thread. In/Out who gives a s**t, the world will still turn. VAR is the f**king thing that will ruin all our lives! |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 19, 2019 22:44:25 GMT 1
Cue for another Brexit thread. In/Out who gives a s**t, the world will still turn. VAR is the f**king thing that will ruin all our lives! Well that, Trump and Boris fucking Johnson 🤢 |
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Post by Town Duppy on Jun 19, 2019 22:48:08 GMT 1
In/Out who gives a s**t, the world will still turn. VAR is the f**king thing that will ruin all our lives! Well that, Trump and Boris fucking Johnson 🤢 Trump's been great and we all know Johnson is gonna be even more Hilarious. |
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Jun 19, 2019 22:59:36 GMT 1
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Post by boooothy on Jun 19, 2019 22:59:36 GMT 1
Worst thing that’s happened to football in a long time.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jun 19, 2019 23:09:21 GMT 1
I like it. Except for the new handball rules. Now they’re ridiculous...
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Post by ambryboy on Jun 19, 2019 23:58:01 GMT 1
Worst thing that’s happened to football in a long time. What Boris Johnson? You can't say that after that glorious tackle against Germany in the Socceraid game... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 8:49:32 GMT 1
Completely ruined the game. Still gets decisions wrong, so what’s the point? Scrap.
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Post by est1908 on Jun 20, 2019 9:08:46 GMT 1
Completely ruined the game. Still gets decisions wrong, so what’s the point? Scrap. Which decision was wrong? |
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Jun 20, 2019 10:02:17 GMT 1
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Post by hypotenuse on Jun 20, 2019 10:02:17 GMT 1
Completely ruined the game. Still gets decisions wrong, so what’s the point? Scrap. Which decision was wrong? It’s not which decisions are wrong and right. It isn’t adjudicating on the things that need looking at. It’s a bit like receiving a fine for walking round Town with your shoelace undone but having no sanction for stabbing someone. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 11:15:43 GMT 1
Which decision was wrong? It’s not which decisions are wrong and right. It isn’t adjudicating on the things that need looking at. It’s a bit like receiving a fine for walking round Town with your shoelace undone but having no sanction for stabbing someone. But it’s for goal changing decisions...they are the stabbing offences aren’t they? Nobody cares if a ref misses an occasional foul in the centre circle...people get very angry at not being awarded a penalty, or a ref being duped into awarding one that shouldn’t have been. The only thing that’s wrong about it, is the implementation...they’re ignoring the laws of the game that state it’s for spotting clear and obvious refereeing mistakes. If it requires slowmo to make a decision, or more than one run through of real time footage, then a clear and obvious mistake has not been made. |
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Post by Maynardblue on Jun 20, 2019 11:30:45 GMT 1
It completely ruins the moment end of. Not being able to celebrate a goal (which is where we'll soon be) is completely unacceptable... To the point where I'd probably not bother with football anymore
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jun 20, 2019 11:33:08 GMT 1
It completely ruins the moment end of. Not being able to celebrate a goal (which is where we'll soon be) is completely unacceptable... To the point where I'd probably not bother with football anymore It's crap. Game's gone in many ways. Why bother having referees at all? |
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Post by CaptainHart on Jun 20, 2019 11:38:43 GMT 1
It’s not which decisions are wrong and right. It isn’t adjudicating on the things that need looking at. It’s a bit like receiving a fine for walking round Town with your shoelace undone but having no sanction for stabbing someone. But it’s for goal changing decisions...they are the stabbing offences aren’t they? Nobody cares if a ref misses an occasional foul in the centre circle...people get very angry at not being awarded a penalty, or a ref being duped into awarding one that shouldn’t have been. The only thing that’s wrong about it, is the implementation...they’re ignoring the laws of the game that state it’s for spotting clear and obvious refereeing mistakes. If it requires slowmo to make a decision, or more than one run through of real time footage, then a clear and obvious mistake has not been made. VAR don't get slow-mo. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 12:05:15 GMT 1
But it’s for goal changing decisions...they are the stabbing offences aren’t they? Nobody cares if a ref misses an occasional foul in the centre circle...people get very angry at not being awarded a penalty, or a ref being duped into awarding one that shouldn’t have been. The only thing that’s wrong about it, is the implementation...they’re ignoring the laws of the game that state it’s for spotting clear and obvious refereeing mistakes. If it requires slowmo to make a decision, or more than one run through of real time footage, then a clear and obvious mistake has not been made. VAR don't get slow-mo. Yes they do. “There will be a VAR and an Assistant VAR for each match at our hub at Stockley Park, outside London. They will look at those four key areas and can request from a replay operator any angles of incidents. The operator can provide them with replays in normal speed or in slow motion.”www.premierleague.com/news/1214130 |
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Post by CaptainHart on Jun 20, 2019 12:24:09 GMT 1
Yes they do. “There will be a VAR and an Assistant VAR for each match at our hub at Stockley Park, outside London. They will look at those four key areas and can request from a replay operator any angles of incidents. The operator can provide them with replays in normal speed or in slow motion.”www.premierleague.com/news/1214130Apologies, I'm sure I read somewhere that they don't. On checking I've found that FIFA talk about "super slow motion" which, as you point out, is ridiculous when they talk about "clear and obvious". |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 20, 2019 12:34:28 GMT 1
From the BBC Sport website
The Premier League will not use video assistant referees in 2019-20 to rule on goalkeepers moving off their line to save a penalty.
Three penalties have been retaken at the Women's World Cup after VAR ruled keepers did not have at least part of one foot on the goalline.
Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL) will leave such decisions to on-field officials.
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Post by rastrick32 on Jun 20, 2019 12:45:39 GMT 1
Everyone and anyone involved in VAR can fuck off. It is an absolute nonsense.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jun 20, 2019 12:50:17 GMT 1
Everyone and anyone involved in VAR can fuck off. It is an absolute nonsense. Indeed. It’s shit. They tried it, it’s shit. They won’t get rid because they are never wrong. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 20, 2019 12:52:58 GMT 1
From the BBC Sport website The Premier League will not use video assistant referees in 2019-20 to rule on goalkeepers moving off their line to save a penalty. Three penalties have been retaken at the Women's World Cup after VAR ruled keepers did not have at least part of one foot on the goalline. Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL) will leave such decisions to on-field officials. kicker gets no more than 4 strides to the ball, cannot stop and re start his run and keeper cannot move off his line.. seems fairer to me. it is a PENALTY but ffs lets not kick the arse out of over weighting it in the favour of the kicker.. please remember the initial foul/handball etc is still an 'opinion' no matter how many fuckers have a look at it. no tackling at all in the box and defenders running around without the use of their arms?? its a charter for lazy, cheating forwards.. |
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Post by hypotenuse on Jun 20, 2019 13:01:17 GMT 1
It’s not which decisions are wrong and right. It isn’t adjudicating on the things that need looking at. It’s a bit like receiving a fine for walking round Town with your shoelace undone but having no sanction for stabbing someone. But it’s for goal changing decisions...they are the stabbing offences aren’t they? Nobody cares if a ref misses an occasional foul in the centre circle...people get very angry at not being awarded a penalty, or a ref being duped into awarding one that shouldn’t have been. The only thing that’s wrong about it, is the implementation...they’re ignoring the laws of the game that state it’s for spotting clear and obvious refereeing mistakes. If it requires slowmo to make a decision, or more than one run through of real time footage, then a clear and obvious mistake has not been made. It’s supposed to be for goal changing decisions and implemented where there has been a CLEAR AND OBVIOUS ERROR by the ref e.g. not completing a substitution and letting play resume is a serious error. A goalkeeper having a foot 10cm off the ground at a pen is not a clear and obvious error. A full back having to defend with arms behind back is utterly ludicrous |
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Post by mrnutz on Jun 20, 2019 13:01:36 GMT 1
Why are the linespeople still running up and down the pitch if they're not allowed to flag offside?
Why does VAR check stuff that the ref didn't even notice? The ref should be asking the VAR room to look at something rather than VAR working autonomously.
There's no room for ref discretion anymore. If they say, well they broke the rules but it wasn't that bad so we'll carry on, they can't do that cos it's on a big screen going over and over again.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 20, 2019 13:46:36 GMT 1
Why are the linespeople still running up and down the pitch if they're not allowed to flag offside? Why does VAR check stuff that the ref didn't even notice? The ref should be asking the VAR room to look at something rather than VAR working autonomously. There's no room for ref discretion anymore. If they say, well they broke the rules but it wasn't that bad so we'll carry on, they can't do that cos it's on a big screen going over and over again. the 'discretion' part of reffing needs updating to cater for 'should a grown man go over like a tart with that amount of contact'  If you have played the game for long enough you know the forward has lost the ball or his balance and is looking for it etc..you know they had hold of each other and one of them has just chucked himself down etc..you know that the 15 stone centre half has merely used his weight to move the 8 stone winger out of the way, its a coming together and the little fella loses, thats life, he gets to skip by him later on and run off because he is quicker, is that 'misusing' his talents or skills or physical abilities? protect the talent but please ffs protect the 'mans game' side as well.. |
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Post by softboy on Jun 20, 2019 19:30:14 GMT 1
So VAR will be used to decide if a player is inches offside but if a keeper comes off their line to save a penalty VAR wont be used!
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Jun 20, 2019 23:28:20 GMT 1
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Post by 28901 on Jun 20, 2019 23:28:20 GMT 1
It completely ruins the moment end of. Not being able to celebrate a goal (which is where we'll soon be) is completely unacceptable... To the point where I'd probably not bother with football anymore That's where it is heading. And I totally agree, it will probably stop me bothering anymore. |
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Post by boooothy on Jun 20, 2019 23:49:59 GMT 1
It completely ruins the moment end of. Not being able to celebrate a goal (which is where we'll soon be) is completely unacceptable... To the point where I'd probably not bother with football anymore This is whole point that everyone seems to be missing. I pretend to go to football see skills and tactics but what i actually go for is to go mental when the ball hits the net! |
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Post by boooothy on Jun 20, 2019 23:53:21 GMT 1
The big benefit to VAR is diving, gets rid of it straight away.
But all the rest, what a load of shit. OK when your watching a team you don’t support on TV, but for those in the ground as an experience, bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 0:17:31 GMT 1
It completely ruins the moment end of. Not being able to celebrate a goal (which is where we'll soon be) is completely unacceptable... To the point where I'd probably not bother with football anymore That's where it is heading. And I totally agree, it will probably stop me bothering anymore. I wouldn’t worry about it. VAR won’t be coming to the football league anytime soon. Clubs don’t have the budget, there aren’t the all pervasive TV contracts that camera crews and high performing networks can be funded and provided off the back of, and there aren’t the requisite overload of available skilled referees to perform the role on a match day. If anything, there is maybe a slim chance of video refs being brought in to cover televised games as with Super League, but I think even that is unlikely. |
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