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Post by TerrierSince89 on Jul 14, 2019 20:00:07 GMT 1
Following the much maligned and discussed transfer dealings so far what are people’s understanding of the money received whilst in the premier league, our outgoings at the time and currently and the change in income/outgoings now we are no longer in the premier league? Just intrigued whether peoples understanding/acknowledgement of our income vs expenditure over the last 2 years and presently has any impact on people’s expectations of transfer dealings etc?
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Post by Ox Terrier on Jul 14, 2019 20:47:42 GMT 1
What the fuckerty fuck?!?!
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Jul 14, 2019 21:06:16 GMT 1
What the fuckerty fuck?!?! Not sure what the/your issue is, as stated it’s simply to see if the expectation of signings/summer dealings is impacted by what people’s impressions are over our financial situation ie if someone thinks we are sat on £60-100m from last yr and parachute payments combined then yes I can understand why they are upset with our current signings so far, whereas if the idea and concept of income vs expenditure is grasped then it may give a more balanced expectation level of signings this summer |
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 14, 2019 21:12:31 GMT 1
Why the chuff does everyone think they know the clubs financial position
We pay basically conference prices to watch prem/championship football
If you had to pay the going rate there’d be 10k turning up every week
Does my head in
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 14, 2019 21:15:56 GMT 1
Why the chuff does everyone think they know the clubs financial position We pay basically conference prices to watch prem/championship football If you had to pay the going rate there’d be 10k turning up every week Does my head in And it's not transfer fees that have crippled Bolton , Pompey, Sunderland etc etc etc.. it's wages . How far do people think 15000 folk paying 250 pound a head gets you ? |
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Jul 14, 2019 21:16:16 GMT 1
I’m not talking about to the penny I’m referring to a rough guide based on what we know ie published finances and the known income from the premier league/Tv revenue.... it was this thread earlier that is the point of reference of our current financial situation based on reality not championship manager
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 14, 2019 21:23:59 GMT 1
No one is saying spend 100m/200m but we should expect better than league 2 and national league player standard imo. That being said I hope the 2 lads turn out as good as grant.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 14, 2019 21:29:06 GMT 1
I’m not talking about to the penny I’m referring to a rough guide based on what we know ie published finances and the known income from the premier league/Tv revenue.... it was this thread earlier that is the point of reference of our current financial situation based on reality not championship manager But our costs will be nowhere close to £102 million so why is he using that as a guide for this season |
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Jul 14, 2019 21:33:17 GMT 1
But neither will our income either, the parachute payments will pretty much cover our outgoings and so any transfer spends will be either from Sales or mean incurring expenditure higher than income, whereas there seems to be a thought process with some that our time in the premier league or with the parachute payments that we have millions upon millions to be spending on new signings but that in reality isn’t the case, that’s the point
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Jul 14, 2019 21:40:40 GMT 1
Also the reason of the poll/thread was to gauge an idea of what people’s perceptions of town’s financial situation was not what is exactly is
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Post by Ox Terrier on Jul 14, 2019 21:51:37 GMT 1
Also the reason of the poll/thread was to gauge an idea of what people’s perceptions of town’s financial situation was not what is exactly is Maybe you should have asked Q what is your perception of Town's financial situation? A1 - Good A2 - Average A3 - Bad A4 - none of my business Asking the question 'how much do Town have to spend on transfers?' gives only one answer. They don't HAVE to spend a penny. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 14, 2019 21:52:59 GMT 1
I can't believe for one minute that we don't have money to spend on players, decent quality proven players.
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Jul 14, 2019 22:05:25 GMT 1
Also the reason of the poll/thread was to gauge an idea of what people’s perceptions of town’s financial situation was not what is exactly is Maybe you should have asked Q what is your perception of Town's financial situation? A1 - Good A2 - Average A3 - Bad A4 - none of my business Asking the question 'how much do Town have to spend on transfers?' gives only one answer. They don't HAVE to spend a penny. Granted maybe it could of had a clearer heading but the idea was to gauge the perception of what people perceive of town’s financial situation in relation to expectation of signings not just the financial situation as a whole. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jul 14, 2019 22:18:14 GMT 1
No one is saying spend 100m/200m but we should expect better than league 2 and national league player standard imo. That being said I hope the 2 lads turn out as good as grant. Why should we expect better than League 2 and National League players when we’ve got a bunch of Prem/Championship players lingering around the club. What happens if we buy these “better” players but don’t get rid of/sell the senior players we have before the transfer window. What if we have no plans to sell Mooy, Hogg, Kongolo, Schindler, Flo, Pritchard, Mounie as well as signings such as Mbenza, Diakhaby, Grant? Not to mention Elphick, Bacuna, Stankovic, Kachunga, VLP, Bockhorn, Brown and Karoma half of which probably won’t get in the 1st eleven but will be close Plus the likes of Rowe and Daly on the fringes Smith has barely left and we haven’t had a chance to see what happens to that money. AND Zanka and Billing haven’t gone yet. What if no one wants them? Will they just rip up their contracts? So aside from potential weaknesses at LB and GK which could be plugged by players currently already in the squad, how many more “better” players can we reasonably afford to bring in until some of those mentioned above leave, cause to me that looks a decent but fairly expensive squad for what probably isn’t as big a pot of money as some seem to be expecting. Final point. What if we’re awaiting some big clubs to decide whether certain players can go out on loan. Maybe we have targets which are dependent on other deals elsewhere I’ll wait to pass judgment until we line up after the window closes which I make the 2nd game of the season before I start to judge our activity but this is a VERY difficult window for us should serious buyers only come in for our players in the first week of August |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jul 14, 2019 23:10:36 GMT 1
Roll on August...
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Post by impact on Jul 14, 2019 23:28:01 GMT 1
100 or 200 fucking million?
What a fucking stupid poll.
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Post by drumriggend on Jul 14, 2019 23:35:39 GMT 1
Following the much maligned and discussed transfer dealings so far what are people’s understanding of the money received whilst in the premier league, our outgoings at the time and currently and the change in income/outgoings now we are no longer in the premier league? Just intrigued whether peoples understanding/acknowledgement of our income vs expenditure over the last 2 years and presently has any impact on people’s expectations of transfer dealings etc? Can you lend me . 20 till nxt week bro.. Spent all my wages on a google gobshite estimator.. It reckons we are fooooookeed.. Allegfedly.. Cheers. |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 14, 2019 23:39:45 GMT 1
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Jul 15, 2019 0:01:35 GMT 1
100 or 200 fucking million? What a fucking stupid poll. The 200 million was an extreme based on income in total over the last 2 yrs, but there are enough comments both on here and social media across the board that indicate some fans think we have £100m+ sat in the bank doing nothing and are basing their expectation of signings this summer based on that perception. |
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Post by stanton1969 on Jul 15, 2019 10:57:23 GMT 1
In the past 2 years revenues and outgoings have gone up.
This season, revenues and outgoings will be higher than 3 years ago, but will be down on the last 2 years. And that trend will continue if we don't get back to the prem. It's not just about this season.
Dean put money into the club to get us to where we got to. I expect he'll get/have got a substantial amount of that back. Rightly so IMHO.
We want to be a financially self-sustaining club adhering to FFP. Good management is what is required on and off the field. We have to consolidate and rebuild......but we're not starting from scratch. Which is way better than 3 or 4 years ago.
All those that moan about championship clubs splashing the cash to get to the greedy league......you can't have it both ways.
I'd rather we were a well managed club that never see's the more frustrating days of leagues 1 and 2 and potential insolvency ever again.
Dean has done his best to hand over the reigns whilst maintaining our integrity and ethos. Things we've all been proud of because they've separated us from most of the rest.
I'm looking forward to us succeeding in the right way. It may not happen overnight, but it will be even sweeter when it does.
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Post by Town Duppy on Jul 16, 2019 19:19:57 GMT 1
Sing a song of six pence, a pocket full of dosh
Dibble dibble, dibble dibble, bosh bosh bosh
Sing a song of six pence, a pocket full of dosh
Dibble dibble, dibble dibble, bosh bosh bosh
(Loadsamoney, loadsamoney, loadsamoney, ahahaha)
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Post by terrier2019 on Jul 16, 2019 19:46:14 GMT 1
where told all our money has gone!!.dean the messiah hoyle ad to put another £15 million to keep club going.we have just spent 2 years in premier league if im not mistaken!!!.i dont work for nasa but sumat doesnt seem to add up to me.where scrating around for lower league and freebies. dont seem to have two pennys to rub together or a pot to piss in.all smoke and mirrors id love to see detailed accounts to see where the money trail leads to.🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Jul 16, 2019 20:31:10 GMT 1
Well when I told my colleague who works in finance that we'd pissed £250m up against a wall, she said that's poor financial management and I have to say, I think she may have a point.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 21:03:22 GMT 1
OR, and this is way out of left field...we have almost £200m in on field assets...
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 16, 2019 21:09:27 GMT 1
OR, and this is way out of left field...we have almost £200m in on field assets... I wouldn’t waste your time. Some people are just idiots. |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Jul 16, 2019 21:09:42 GMT 1
I can't believe for one minute that we don't have money to spend on players, decent quality proven players. Name three 'decent quality proven players' and their likely fees and wages |
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Post by Mecha Corte on Jul 16, 2019 21:17:21 GMT 1
OR, and this is way out of left field...we have almost £200m in on field assets... I've noticed as a general rule of thumb the ones that complain most about our amount of spending or their perceived lack of it are the ones that are the most reluctant to put any of their own money into the clubs coffers. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 16, 2019 22:29:55 GMT 1
where told all our money has gone!!.dean the messiah hoyle ad to put another £15 million to keep club going.we have just spent 2 years in premier league if im not mistaken!!!.i dont work for nasa but sumat doesnt seem to add up to me.where scrating around for lower league and freebies. dont seem to have two pennys to rub together or a pot to piss in.all smoke and mirrors id love to see detailed accounts to see where the money trail leads to.🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 If you do get hold of the detailed accounts, please can I watch you trying to comprehend them. My guess is you wouldn't notice if you were looking at them upside down. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 16, 2019 22:50:15 GMT 1
where told all our money has gone!!.dean the messiah hoyle ad to put another £15 million to keep club going.we have just spent 2 years in premier league if im not mistaken!!!.i dont work for nasa but sumat doesnt seem to add up to me.where scrating around for lower league and freebies. dont seem to have two pennys to rub together or a pot to piss in.all smoke and mirrors id love to see detailed accounts to see where the money trail leads to.🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 With insight like that, I can't believe you don't work for NASA. |
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Jul 16, 2019 22:58:14 GMT 1
OR, and this is way out of left field...we have almost £200m in on field assets... How do you work that one out then? |
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