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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 23:02:47 GMT 1
w3hat a over reaction from most on here and on RL. SUPPORTERS? a bloody joke. grow up
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 5, 2019 23:05:12 GMT 1
IT WAS a bit SHIT though to BE fair
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Post by space hardware on Aug 5, 2019 23:06:12 GMT 1
JeSUs ChRist
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 5, 2019 23:09:01 GMT 1
I think the idiots have every right to let off a bit of steam after a summer of expectation and about 4 wins in 1.5 years
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 5, 2019 23:10:23 GMT 1
I think it's probably because we had high expectations and it seems like nothing has changed.... Defensive errors, lack of goal threat and a defeat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 23:12:37 GMT 1
I think the idiots have every right to let off a bit of steam after a summer of expectation and about 4 wins in 1.5 years Think it depends how you channel it. 'Get the fuck out of my club' 'c**t' usual derogatory words after 20 minutes isnt on. |
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Post by Htfc1987 on Aug 5, 2019 23:13:08 GMT 1
What the fuck are we supposed to say??
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 5, 2019 23:14:06 GMT 1
I think the idiots have every right to let off a bit of steam after a summer of expectation and about 4 wins in 1.5 years Think it depends how you channel it. 'Get the fuck out of my club' 'c**t' usual derogatory words after 20 minutes isnt on. Absolutely.. any sane person would hate that shit |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 5, 2019 23:15:35 GMT 1
w3hat a over reaction from most on here and on RL. SUPPORTERS? a bloody joke. grow up Its a bloody football forum where we're discussing s shite performance. If you don't like it stay away and take up knitting. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 23:17:29 GMT 1
Think it depends how you channel it. 'Get the fuck out of my club' 'c**t' usual derogatory words after 20 minutes isnt on. Absolutely.. any sane person would hate that shit don't deserve to lose despite mistakes. glad I'm off datm after some of the comments tonight utt |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 5, 2019 23:22:33 GMT 1
Absolutely.. any sane person would hate that shit don't deserve to lose despite mistakes. glad I'm off datm after some of the comments tonight utt No way mate we were second best tonight |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Aug 5, 2019 23:26:10 GMT 1
Quite like you normally, Positive. But regard these last comments as a few pies thrown in your direction. You assured us everything was good, AND IT WASN'T!!
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 5, 2019 23:30:58 GMT 1
Absolutely.. any sane person would hate that shit don't deserve to lose despite mistakes. glad I'm off datm after some of the comments tonight utt Come on we were poor tonight, we looked totally off the pace. |
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Post by tockyterrier on Aug 5, 2019 23:43:10 GMT 1
People on RL blaming Jan for players not being fit enough. So they not know that we have the same fitness coaches as we have had for a few years?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 5, 2019 23:48:04 GMT 1
some arse said it was a calculated, tactical move for Derby to have nothing in the second half..
clearly mystic meg told em at half time, sit off, town will have 2 fucking gilt edged, easy chances to score but will miss em and we we will win 1-2???
we have not dominated a half of football like that since Wolves away..
sievert is obviously at fault for an experienced centre half getting far too clever and then failing to move out and close lawrence down..
football management would be great if you didnt have 11 fuckers representing you on the pitch at times....
Bacuna was injured early on but stayed on and got worse, maybe he told the staff he was really bad but they said 'fuck it junior, you are staying on'...
missing tonight was the plan b, big lad up front for the long periods they were forced to sit in..makes it a harder tactic to adopt but still 2 absolute sitters and we missed em.
a friend of mine sits behind the bench, first half full of expletives to pick up lawrence, failure from the players..
dont care wether you like the boss, if you really wont do as you are told then fuck off, problem is nobody really wants you so its now down to you to fucking frame and man up..
some town fans are probably no worse than other manic depressives at other clubs who use the games and posting sites as 'therapy' but we are level on points with stoke and fulham and cardiff, fulham could not score with a front line earning over 150k a week ffs..
reality is we were not a premiership team last season, we just happened to play 19 others who were and its gonna take a bit of time in the 'real games' for the doom merchants to realise it..
Derby get pushed back like that again give away 2 clear cut golden chances and lose 3-2 their manager is the c-nt..fine lines we can get better..some tactics work well some need a lot of luck...we gave em a goal which had nothing to do with the managers approach or tactics and we missed a couple of blobbers which had absolutely nothing to do with their 'tactics in the second half'...
when we have not won in 12 games then its time to think again.. i am not a happy clapper just a realist..
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Aug 5, 2019 23:50:50 GMT 1
Absolutely.. any sane person would hate that shit don't deserve to lose despite mistakes. glad I'm off datm after some of the comments tonight utt Go on, bugger off with ya!! |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 5, 2019 23:56:40 GMT 1
w3hat a over reaction from most on here and on RL. SUPPORTERS? a bloody joke. grow up Over reaction? Obviously you think that performance was worthy of points, but I think most would disagree and that we got the result we deserved. Derby went into game management mode in the 2nd half. They let us shift the ball wide knowing there wasn’t much threat from our crosses and defended the middle. Yes we had two big chances in the second half, but what does that say about our finishing and quality? Derby gambled that we would get those chances and they would The fact that our players were blowing showed they were putting the effort in, but they looked unfit. |
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Post by dugnet on Aug 6, 2019 0:00:36 GMT 1
I try to present the balanced view and see the positives but tonight we were essentially the same team as last season, with the same problems but against weaker opposition. Indeed had we played like we did in the 1st half most Premier League teams would have annihilated us.
Where was the fast attacking football we were promised? Where was the evidence that we had drawn a line and moved on?
This is an unforgiving league and if we don't improve we will struggle. Can anyone really accept a struggle after the money we have had available to us?
The truth is that the seeds of this crop were sewn pretty soon after our promotion to the Premier League. We recruited ok in summer 17 but our planning since has been poor. The net result is that we face a season in the Championship with an unproven coach, some good players but little identity, fragile confidence and no evidence of a coherent long term strategy. This isn't good enough and needs addressing.
Being realistic unless there is a miraculous couple of days in the transfer window we are faced with looking for significant improvements on what we saw tonight. Is the coach capable? Well if he isn't we'll soon come to a conclusion.
The fans were prepared to make allowances in the Premier League but will not be so generous in the Championship. As genuine and hard working the folk who run the club are, and have been, mistakes are still mistakes. As I said at the start the biggest crime for me was seeing little change from last season and I have little confidence things will improve quickly, although I hope I am proved completely wrong.
Overall I hoped for better but ended up disappointed in what was delivered. After a summer to make a new start it just was well below what was required.
What happens next will be interesting to say the least.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 6, 2019 0:07:38 GMT 1
w3hat a over reaction from most on here and on RL. SUPPORTERS? a bloody joke. grow up Over reaction? Obviously you think that performance was worthy of points, but I think most would disagree and that we got the result we deserved. Derby went into game management mode in the 2nd half. They let us shift the ball wide knowing there wasn’t much threat from our crosses and defended the middle. Yes we had two big chances in the second half, but what does that say about our finishing and quality? Derby gambled that we would get those chances and they would The fact that our players were blowing showed they were putting the effort in, but they looked unfit. any manager who 'gambles' that the other team will miss gilt edged chances is a fucking idiot.. we were not 'supposed' to make gilt edged chances you arse, they were supposed to get us on the break and that fucking failed miserably, the only save our keeper made after the 2 balls ups was from a shot after bacuna had had his shirt pulled back directly in front of the ref??? a defensive masterclass is a long shot or two and a couple of dangerous crosses that need defending very well, not fucking hoping the other team miss 2 easy chances and you do absolutely nothing in the other half.. derby got away with it tonight, thats all.. agreed we were not great and were pretty poor in the first half but pretending derby ran the game both halves is absolute loser mentality bollox.. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 6, 2019 0:35:02 GMT 1
Over reaction? Obviously you think that performance was worthy of points, but I think most would disagree and that we got the result we deserved. Derby went into game management mode in the 2nd half. They let us shift the ball wide knowing there wasn’t much threat from our crosses and defended the middle. Yes we had two big chances in the second half, but what does that say about our finishing and quality? Derby gambled that we would get those chances and they would The fact that our players were blowing showed they were putting the effort in, but they looked unfit. any manager who 'gambles' that the other team will miss gilt edged chances is a fucking idiot.. we were not 'supposed' to make gilt edged chances you arse, they were supposed to get us on the break and that fucking failed miserably, the only save our keeper made after the 2 balls ups was from a shot after bacuna had had his shirt pulled back directly in front of the ref??? a defensive masterclass is a long shot or two and a couple of dangerous crosses that need defending very well, not fucking hoping the other team miss 2 easy chances and you do absolutely nothing in the other half.. derby got away with it tonight, thats all.. agreed we were not great and were pretty poor in the first half but pretending derby ran the game both halves is absolute loser mentality bollox.. Pipe down Chachi, no need to call me an arse. They were obviously sitting in looking to sting us on the break in the 2nd half. Yes you are right, they created nothing, but then again, when you are winning you don’t need to create. Nobody is pretending Derby ran away with it in both halves, we are disappointed with our inability to break them down and equalise. Yes we had more possession the second half but were we effective enough with it? The final score suggests not. |
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Post by terriers321 on Aug 6, 2019 0:38:58 GMT 1
w3hat a over reaction from most on here and on RL. SUPPORTERS? a bloody joke. grow up I can only presume you were one of the supporters who was raving about how well we played before December last season whilst we were already relegated. Tonight was poor and people have every right to whinge. |
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Post by townrwe on Aug 6, 2019 0:46:13 GMT 1
People on RL blaming Jan for players not being fit enough. So they not know that we have the same fitness coaches as we have had for a few years? Possibly overdone training and fitness... I'd say we looked abit tired rather than unfit, hard work now pays off next spring. Mentally we looked jaded and Physically we looked jaded |
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Post by willo on Aug 6, 2019 0:52:18 GMT 1
w3hat a over reaction from most on here and on RL. SUPPORTERS? a bloody joke. grow up I can only presume you were one of the supporters who was raving about how well we played before December last season whilst we were already relegated. Tonight was poor and people have every right to whinge. Positive has long standing connections with the club and consequently looks at things differently, is rarely critical himself and is defensive of the club. I have absolutely no problem with this, he does bring some balance but I (and many others going by what has been discussed on here) feel he has it wrong on this occasion. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Aug 6, 2019 0:53:44 GMT 1
I felt little motivation/optimism going into this season, now I feel even less.
You can't blame anyone for feeling pissed off, all people asked for was a fresh approach, instead we got a continuation of last season's depression-ball.
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Aug 6, 2019 0:56:59 GMT 1
We were rubbish end of
Fans have the right to vent there frustration after a year and half. The bloke didn't even get a reaction after he took over. We were even worse
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Post by TTerrier on Aug 6, 2019 1:18:02 GMT 1
I try to present the balanced view and see the positives but tonight we were essentially the same team as last season, with the same problems but against weaker opposition. Indeed had we played like we did in the 1st half most Premier League teams would have annihilated us. Where was the fast attacking football we were promised? Where was the evidence that we had drawn a line and moved on? This is an unforgiving league and if we don't improve we will struggle. Can anyone really accept a struggle after the money we have had available to us? The truth is that the seeds of this crop were sewn pretty soon after our promotion to the Premier League. We recruited ok in summer 17 but our planning since has been poor. The net result is that we face a season in the Championship with an unproven coach, some good players but little identity, fragile confidence and no evidence of a coherent long term strategy. This isn't good enough and needs addressing. Being realistic unless there is a miraculous couple of days in the transfer window we are faced with looking for significant improvements on what we saw tonight. Is the coach capable? Well if he isn't we'll soon come to a conclusion. The fans were prepared to make allowances in the Premier League but will not be so generous in the Championship. As genuine and hard working the folk who run the club are, and have been, mistakes are still mistakes. As I said at the start the biggest crime for me was seeing little change from last season and I have little confidence things will improve quickly, although I hope I am proved completely wrong. Overall I hoped for better but ended up disappointed in what was delivered. After a summer to make a new start it just was well below what was required. What happens next will be interesting to say the least. This has completely summed up my feelings. Of what was such an opportunity with the money we have for this league we just seemed to have made no progress whatsoever. Never mind the players we already possess. There hasn’t been one game where I’ve felt this team knew what was asked of them since Jan has been in charge. Luke Shaw making a defensive error for the Mbenza goal doesn’t seem enough to warrant his coaching methods |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 6, 2019 1:29:17 GMT 1
Massochists must be drawn to town.
Yes we were not great but c-nts making out Derby 'knew' we would miss guilt edge chances and that players going nowhere are fucking about because they don't like the manager is a new fucking low in 'getting personal frustrations off your chest'
Ffs read back before you post please.
C-nts from other teams read this and will feel vindicated at being c-nts.
It's still one game and we did better in it the longer it went on . Of course it has to be better nobody is arguing that point. Nobody is saying it's acceptable this season to be anything like last but a fair go has to be given.
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Post by E4b on Aug 6, 2019 7:16:05 GMT 1
Derby took the complete piss, toyed around with us without breaking sweat. If you’re happy watching that then you’re easily pleased. The expensive ‘let downs’ of last season who think they’re too good for the Championship, think again!
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Post by specialun on Aug 6, 2019 7:37:58 GMT 1
I think the idiots have every right to let off a bit of steam after a summer of expectation and about 4 wins in 1.5 years Summer of expectation set from the new chairman’s mouth as to what we were going to do / sign - set expectation high Which has not seen in transfer business done... yet If you mean summer of expectation that this team Is good enough to be near the top 6 I don’t have a clue what you’ve all been smoking My expectation with this team is at is minus Wagner - mid table at best, near top of the bottom half Failure to being in a championship quality / ready left back and centre mid key - do that and it could be upper half mid table ... with an outside chance of pushing on in January |
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 6, 2019 7:43:35 GMT 1
Massochists must be drawn to town. Yes we were not great but c-nts making out Derby 'knew' we would miss guilt edge chances and that players going nowhere are fucking about because they don't like the manager is a new fucking low in 'getting personal frustrations off your chest' Ffs read back before you post please. C-nts from other teams read this and will feel vindicated at being c-nts. It's still one game and we did better in it the longer it went on . Of course it has to be better nobody is arguing that point. Nobody is saying it's acceptable this season to be anything like last but a fair go has to be given. Oh Kachunga, what were you doing? Best bit of the night was the total disbelief on the face of the guy in the Panasonic right in front of Kachunga. |
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