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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 7, 2019 10:12:32 GMT 1
Like I said if Kachunga " had been more clinical we wouldn't have lost " He was never gonna score in a million years. 4 Derby players busting a gut to cover and block as well. Half chance at best. Surely you're not typing those words to fit with your agenda...
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Post by tobbyg on Aug 7, 2019 10:15:19 GMT 1
I’m worried how long we can go along before fans start turning and leaving in droves. First game it’s been clearly visible just how many empty seats there was for two seasons. And the booing at the end, it was pretty loud. I don't agree with booing nor do I ever boo, I find it a bit ridiculous as the players know they've probably played crap, they don't need heckling from the stands to quantify it. Could be wrong but I thought that was more frustration aimed at the officials.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Aug 7, 2019 10:18:20 GMT 1
Like I said if Kachunga " had been more clinical we wouldn't have lost " Kachunga...scored 1 in nigh on 50 competitive games. Says a lot about the chances he can put away. I like the guy and think hes a good player but thats not a great return no matter which way you spin it. Yes he hashed his shot but i genuinely think that from that position the keeper stops 6 out of 10, the 4 defenders get 3 out of 10 and an attacker sneaks one in 1 in 10 anyway. No way is it the gilt edged chance that some on here make out, and even our manager was clinging to. The simple truth is that we do not make enough chances. We sit outside the box passing it back and around. I acknowledge that itself is something that some teams (liverpool, city etc) do well to probe defences, so i'm not saying it wont work, it just hasn't been doing for us. And with that in mind, Derby were quite comfortable in their defense of us. They didnt need to attack, could sit back on their lead and let us probe a bit. We failed to do that, failed to put them under much pressure at all, 2 half chances and a long shot in 45 minutes is not going to panic any defence at this level. We need to up our game, it was a continuation of last seasons form, style and result. Something has to change because to me and every long suffering town fan i've spoken to since, that was no improvement at all. Hmm. How many did Kachunga score in our promotion season?
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Post by dugnet on Aug 7, 2019 10:24:55 GMT 1
I'll tell you what's happening Jimmy. We've grown too accustomed to being spoilt. Cheap season tickets while the club competes at the highest level it's been at for nigh on 50 yrs (most clubs would have hiked prices at this point). We've seen that experience crumble a little last season, but if people want to get back to the heady heights they're going to have to stop the moaning and hope that their efforts will spark a recovery in the mindset of the team. I'm sure the players are feeling this, getting kicked in the bollocks on social media, at the games etc. isn't really going to help them. The fans have as big a part to play in this, off the field and away from matchday. Otherwise the prophets of doom will just see their prophecy play out, but will probably miss the fact they might have played a small part in that outcome... So the fans are in part responsible because they are "moaning" and should be more grateful as they have had cheap season tickets? The fans have been outstanding, the support was excellent on Monday. It will be excellent on Saturday too I am sure. It isn't about being a prophet of doom it's about saying we have made mistakes and lost our way, from what made us successful. We have good players, a team valued well over £100m, acknowledging we have some positional weaknesses (left back the most obvious to everyone) but the sum of the parts is not delivering. Yes it is one game but a game that was depressing as we were worse than we were at the end of the Premier League season on Saturday. Derby as a very capable side at this level but they are not a Premier League team. We were all over the place in the 1st half and predicable and pedestrian in the 2nd half. What depressed people the same issues were evident albeit at a weaker level. It's very simple - it's not right and it needs addressing, it should have been addressed in the summer. To blame people for being concerned and having a rational, but realistic, debate about what is happening on the pitch is grossly unfair. 18000 people have paid for season tickets, yes they are great value but they could easily have said "stuff this I can spend that money elsewhere". Not to mention all the new shirts that people have bought. If we can't reasonably express concern for the fear of being blamed and being told we are now part of the problem then it really is a bigger mess than it appears.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 7, 2019 10:27:20 GMT 1
I'll tell you what's happening Jimmy. We've grown too accustomed to being spoilt. Cheap season tickets while the club competes at the highest level it's been at for nigh on 50 yrs (most clubs would have hiked prices at this point). We've seen that experience crumble a little last season, but if people want to get back to the heady heights they're going to have to stop the moaning and hope that their efforts will spark a recovery in the mindset of the team. I'm sure the players are feeling this, getting kicked in the bollocks on social media, at the games etc. isn't really going to help them. The fans have as big a part to play in this, off the field and away from matchday. Otherwise the prophets of doom will just see their prophecy play out, but will probably miss the fact they might have played a small part in that outcome... So the fans are in part responsible because they are "moaning" and should be more grateful as they have had cheap season tickets? The fans have been outstanding, the support was excellent on Monday. It will be excellent on Saturday too I am sure. It isn't about being a prophet of doom it's about saying we have made mistakes and lost our way, from what made us successful. We have good players, a team valued well over £100m, acknowledging we have some positional weaknesses (left back the most obvious to everyone) but the sum of the parts is not delivering. Yes it is one game but a game that was depressing as we were worse than we were at the end of the Premier League season on Saturday. Derby as a very capable side at this level but they are not a Premier League team. We were all over the place in the 1st half and predicable and pedestrian in the 2nd half. What depressed people the same issues were evident albeit at a weaker level. It's very simple - it's not right and it needs addressing, it should have been addressed in the summer. To blame people for being concerned and having a rational, but realistic, debate about what is happening on the pitch is grossly unfair. 18000 people have paid for season tickets, yes they are great value but they could easily have said "stuff this I can spend that money elsewhere". Not to mention all the new shirts that people have bought. If we can't reasonably express concern for the fear of being blamed and being told we are now part of the problem then it really is a bigger mess than it appears. I wasn't suggesting everyone was a prophet of doom, just making the point to the miserable moaning feckers on here... There's a difference between that (knee jerk negative spouting of shite) versus sensible and reasoned analysis/concerns...
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Post by dugnet on Aug 7, 2019 10:31:55 GMT 1
Kachunga...scored 1 in nigh on 50 competitive games. Says a lot about the chances he can put away. I like the guy and think hes a good player but thats not a great return no matter which way you spin it. Yes he hashed his shot but i genuinely think that from that position the keeper stops 6 out of 10, the 4 defenders get 3 out of 10 and an attacker sneaks one in 1 in 10 anyway. No way is it the gilt edged chance that some on here make out, and even our manager was clinging to. The simple truth is that we do not make enough chances. We sit outside the box passing it back and around. I acknowledge that itself is something that some teams (liverpool, city etc) do well to probe defences, so i'm not saying it wont work, it just hasn't been doing for us. And with that in mind, Derby were quite comfortable in their defense of us. They didnt need to attack, could sit back on their lead and let us probe a bit. We failed to do that, failed to put them under much pressure at all, 2 half chances and a long shot in 45 minutes is not going to panic any defence at this level. We need to up our game, it was a continuation of last seasons form, style and result. Something has to change because to me and every long suffering town fan i've spoken to since, that was no improvement at all. Hmm. How many did Kachunga score in our promotion season? He should have hit the target for sure but with a keeper on top of him and 3 defenders on the line there was no guarantee he would score. I also agree that goals change games and had he scored could we have gone on to win it? We'll never know. But the fact remains we were all over the shop in the first half (the shape was woeful) and laborious in the 2nd (bar a good first 10 minutes). Over 90 minutes it was very disappointing and because we had not moved on from the issues of last season - that is what I think most people were alarmed at. I am very happy to see if Siewert can improve things in the next few games. If he does that will be brilliant but I am really concerned that he isn't up to the task. If he is as good as we are told we should see some tangible and sustainable improvement over the next 6 games, if not he needs to go. It is as simple as that.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 7, 2019 10:32:04 GMT 1
Kachunga was one of our better players when he came on. Shame he missed his chance but what about other chances missed such as Schindler or Mooys chances. Don't see anyone on here criticising them.
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Post by terrierist on Aug 7, 2019 10:32:23 GMT 1
Kachunga...scored 1 in nigh on 50 competitive games. Says a lot about the chances he can put away. I like the guy and think hes a good player but thats not a great return no matter which way you spin it. Yes he hashed his shot but i genuinely think that from that position the keeper stops 6 out of 10, the 4 defenders get 3 out of 10 and an attacker sneaks one in 1 in 10 anyway. No way is it the gilt edged chance that some on here make out, and even our manager was clinging to. The simple truth is that we do not make enough chances. We sit outside the box passing it back and around. I acknowledge that itself is something that some teams (liverpool, city etc) do well to probe defences, so i'm not saying it wont work, it just hasn't been doing for us. And with that in mind, Derby were quite comfortable in their defense of us. They didnt need to attack, could sit back on their lead and let us probe a bit. We failed to do that, failed to put them under much pressure at all, 2 half chances and a long shot in 45 minutes is not going to panic any defence at this level. We need to up our game, it was a continuation of last seasons form, style and result. Something has to change because to me and every long suffering town fan i've spoken to since, that was no improvement at all. Hmm. How many did Kachunga score in our promotion season? Are you disputing the stat? Because i'm living in 2019 not 2016/17. He has scored once since April 14th 2017. Stop trying to turn this into a Kachunga bash, it's not. I think he'll do better at this level and be ok this season, i said i liked the player. My point is that that chance was not gilt edged at all. It was a difficult one that most players would struggle with yet some on here and our manager are clinging to it as the chance we should have taken to avoid defeat (whih also includes a huge prediction that derby would have not have reacted which is also highly unlikely). It genuinely wasn't, he was off balance, controlling a ball at speed, playing his first minutes of the season after a totally demoralising run under this manager last season and the keeper and defence between them had most of the goal covered! The main issue is that we keep trying to do the same thing and its failed all but once to win a game!
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Post by dugnet on Aug 7, 2019 10:35:41 GMT 1
So the fans are in part responsible because they are "moaning" and should be more grateful as they have had cheap season tickets? The fans have been outstanding, the support was excellent on Monday. It will be excellent on Saturday too I am sure. It isn't about being a prophet of doom it's about saying we have made mistakes and lost our way, from what made us successful. We have good players, a team valued well over £100m, acknowledging we have some positional weaknesses (left back the most obvious to everyone) but the sum of the parts is not delivering. Yes it is one game but a game that was depressing as we were worse than we were at the end of the Premier League season on Saturday. Derby as a very capable side at this level but they are not a Premier League team. We were all over the place in the 1st half and predicable and pedestrian in the 2nd half. What depressed people the same issues were evident albeit at a weaker level. It's very simple - it's not right and it needs addressing, it should have been addressed in the summer. To blame people for being concerned and having a rational, but realistic, debate about what is happening on the pitch is grossly unfair. 18000 people have paid for season tickets, yes they are great value but they could easily have said "stuff this I can spend that money elsewhere". Not to mention all the new shirts that people have bought. If we can't reasonably express concern for the fear of being blamed and being told we are now part of the problem then it really is a bigger mess than it appears. I wasn't suggesting everyone was a prophet of doom, just making the point to the miserable moaning feckers on here... There's a difference between that (knee jerk negative spouting of shite) versus sensible and reasoned analysis/concerns... That's fair enough but I am not a prophet of doom at all, but I am realistic and it was a very disappointing performance.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 7, 2019 10:39:59 GMT 1
I wasn't suggesting everyone was a prophet of doom, just making the point to the miserable moaning feckers on here... There's a difference between that (knee jerk negative spouting of shite) versus sensible and reasoned analysis/concerns... That's fair enough but I am not a prophet of doom at all, but I am realistic and it was a very disappointing performance. I know you are, should have said that you fall into the latter category...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 10:41:03 GMT 1
Why is there any surprise?
We’re set up as a middling Championship club, the EPL secured that, that’s all.
We were a bottom third Championship club, the gods aligned and delivered an unlikely promotion, no we’re back down and simply have to realign our thoughts to supporting a club that will likely finish somewhere between 8th and 12th in any given season. And when that’s the case, we’ll continue to lose games and look a bit rubbish at times.
Anyone expecting a promotion charge is off their heads and is going to be disappointed.
The expectation is unreal...with the squad we had and signings we made, relegation was inevitable from day one, that we stayed up was incredible. And now, with the squad we have, we’ll finish above say 15th, what more do folk really expect...that we somehow win every game and set a new record points haul as we romp to the title?
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 7, 2019 10:41:04 GMT 1
The concern to me is that we seem so unprepared. Dean Hoyle said in that recent podcast that he knew we were down at Christmas. Surely we should have had all our ducks in a row for the new championship season from that point. It seems particularly odd that we have only just appointed a director of football, when it is too late to affect the start of the new campaign. Shouldn't we have got him in early to plan for the new season?
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Post by dugnet on Aug 7, 2019 10:41:47 GMT 1
Kachunga was one of our better players when he came on. Shame he missed his chance but what about other chances missed such as Schindler or Mooys chances. Don't see anyone on here criticising them. I don't think individual players are the big problem, the sum of the parts should be better for sure and some had a poor night for sure, but the overall system, tactics and approach contributed to what we saw.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 10:45:08 GMT 1
The concern to me is that we seem so unprepared. Dean Hoyle said in that recent podcast that he knew we were down at Christmas. Surely we should have had all our ducks in a row for the new championship season from that point. It seems particularly odd that we have only just appointed a director of football, when it is too late to affect the start of the new campaign. Shouldn't we have got him in early to plan for the new season? It was explained already that they knew what they wanted and didn’t want the burden of this transfer window weighing on a new DoF and having the daggers out for him before he’s got his feet under the table. Probably wise given the signings we’ve made.
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Post by stanton1969 on Aug 7, 2019 10:45:43 GMT 1
He was never gonna score in a million years. 4 Derby players busting a gut to cover and block as well. Half chance at best. Surely you're not typing those words to fit with your agenda... What agenda? There is no agenda as far as I'm concerned. In my opinion, it's a half chance given who it fell to. And if he'd managed to get a shot off to the far post it would most likely have been blocked given the 3 defenders who were covering. I don't think we created much else (except the CS chance, but again, that's a half chance given he's a centre back). Unless I was watching a completely different game. We need 10 chances like that to score 1 goal. It's been like that for 2+ seasons now. I thought I was just pointing out the bleeding obvious. If it had fallen to Grant....I would have given better than even odds that he would have scored, but it still would not have been a sitter. Kachunga? No.
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 7, 2019 10:48:35 GMT 1
The concern to me is that we seem so unprepared. Dean Hoyle said in that recent podcast that he knew we were down at Christmas. Surely we should have had all our ducks in a row for the new championship season from that point. It seems particularly odd that we have only just appointed a director of football, when it is too late to affect the start of the new campaign. Shouldn't we have got him in early to plan for the new season? It was explained already that they knew what they wanted and didn’t want the burden of this transfer window weighing on a new DoF and having the daggers out for him before he’s got his feet under the table. Probably wise given the signings we’ve made. Maybe they wouldn't have been the signings identified by a good director of football? Just seems very odd. And the three transfer windows thing is also odd. Essentially the owner and manager are saying publicly it will take three windows to get rid of the current squad. Great motivation.
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Post by stanton1969 on Aug 7, 2019 10:50:03 GMT 1
Kachunga...scored 1 in nigh on 50 competitive games. Says a lot about the chances he can put away. I like the guy and think hes a good player but thats not a great return no matter which way you spin it. Yes he hashed his shot but i genuinely think that from that position the keeper stops 6 out of 10, the 4 defenders get 3 out of 10 and an attacker sneaks one in 1 in 10 anyway. No way is it the gilt edged chance that some on here make out, and even our manager was clinging to. The simple truth is that we do not make enough chances. We sit outside the box passing it back and around. I acknowledge that itself is something that some teams (liverpool, city etc) do well to probe defences, so i'm not saying it wont work, it just hasn't been doing for us. And with that in mind, Derby were quite comfortable in their defense of us. They didnt need to attack, could sit back on their lead and let us probe a bit. We failed to do that, failed to put them under much pressure at all, 2 half chances and a long shot in 45 minutes is not going to panic any defence at this level. We need to up our game, it was a continuation of last seasons form, style and result. Something has to change because to me and every long suffering town fan i've spoken to since, that was no improvement at all. Hmm. How many did Kachunga score in our promotion season? Completely different context now. It's like comparing apples with oranges.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 10:51:44 GMT 1
It was explained already that they knew what they wanted and didn’t want the burden of this transfer window weighing on a new DoF and having the daggers out for him before he’s got his feet under the table. Probably wise given the signings we’ve made. Maybe they wouldn't have been the signings identified by a good director of football? Just seems very odd. And the three transfer windows thing is also odd. Essentially the owner and manager are saying publicly it will take three windows to get rid of the current squad. Great motivation. All seems reasonable and pragmatic to me.
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Post by royrace on Aug 7, 2019 10:57:05 GMT 1
Kachunga was one of our better players when he came on. Shame he missed his chance but what about other chances missed such as Schindler or Mooys chances. Don't see anyone on here criticising them. The fact we're hanging our hats on that one missed chance says it all really, yes it was a very good chance but they don't always go in, that's football and as has been pointed out even if he'd got it on target it could quite possibly have been saved or blocked. I did find it a bit strange that Kachunga was sent out to speak to RL straight after the match. Could have been coincidence I guess. After missing our best chance late in the game I'd imagine its the last thing he would have wanted to do. Not sure who's decision it is but I'd have picked someone else, anyone else in fact.
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Post by royrace on Aug 7, 2019 11:02:31 GMT 1
It was explained already that they knew what they wanted and didn’t want the burden of this transfer window weighing on a new DoF and having the daggers out for him before he’s got his feet under the table. Probably wise given the signings we’ve made. Maybe they wouldn't have been the signings identified by a good director of football? Just seems very odd. And the three transfer windows thing is also odd. Essentially the owner and manager are saying publicly it will take three windows to get rid of the current squad. Great motivation. I'm surprised more people haven't picked up on this. Seems a ridiculous thing to come out with publicly. The squad must feel really secure and settled knowing the club from top to bottom have decided its going to take 3 windows to replace loads of them. Have a plan for sure but keep it quiet surely. Re the DoF I hardly think they were protecting him from the burden of signing players! He couldn't do any worse than last summer could he, it would literally be impossible. More like the club think they can handle the recruitment just fine with the team or committee they already have in place.
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Post by malcolmbrown on Aug 7, 2019 11:02:38 GMT 1
Overreaction to a defeat by the cognoscenti on DATM --- SURELY NOT! FWIW My OPINION was that the players worked hard the other night - no lack of motivation - but Derby were quicker to the ball in midfield and very well organised in defence I wonder why? Maybe that had something to do with ambition? They lose a potentially top-class manager and hire as his replacement a former Barcelona captain who sports over 100 International caps and has many years of management experience. We hire a guy that (apparently - since no one had ever heard of him) got the bullet from a lower league German club; enough said? Not "blaming" anyone for this but isn't the comparison pretty stark? I sincerely hope that Jan develops QUICKLY into a decent (at least) tactician and organiser. To quote that clown in Brussels though: "The clock is ticking." UTT Clown in Brussels ffs. Little Englander, Brexit bulls*itter alert.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Aug 7, 2019 11:14:32 GMT 1
Hmm. How many did Kachunga score in our promotion season? Are you disputing the stat? Because i'm living in 2019 not 2016/17. He has scored once since April 14th 2017. Stop trying to turn this into a Kachunga bash, it's not. I think he'll do better at this level and be ok this season, i said i liked the player. My point is that that chance was not gilt edged at all. It was a difficult one that most players would struggle with yet some on here and our manager are clinging to it as the chance we should have taken to avoid defeat (whih also includes a huge prediction that derby would have not have reacted which is also highly unlikely). It genuinely wasn't, he was off balance, controlling a ball at speed, playing his first minutes of the season after a totally demoralising run under this manager last season and the keeper and defence between them had most of the goal covered! The main issue is that we keep trying to do the same thing and its failed all but once to win a game! You're the one who is turning this into a Kachunga bash, harping on about the lack of goals he scored over the last 2 seasons when we were in the premier league You freakin idiot.
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Post by redshadow on Aug 7, 2019 11:23:07 GMT 1
Over and over we get the same old crap stating but how many goals did kachunga score in our promotion season, f me, that's long gone. It doesn't matter a flying fuck now,you can't live on has been! The guys no better than league 1 .no end result he just scurries around trying to look busy, like half this team,the shits ingrained deep after last season, it so needed a new sweep out with the biggest brush ever seen, uncle Phil a poor man's Dean Hoyle, with an even less feel for buying a couple of decent players to give us something different besides experience, an assistant coach who coached a woman's footie team!,you couldn't make this up! Finally professional footballers who should be tried under the trades description act for acting as football players,dont get me started on the manager.hoyle for all the good he did.has a lot to answer for appointing herr seiwert..
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Post by Melc on Aug 7, 2019 11:33:38 GMT 1
We lost the first game of the season by one goal to the side who got to the playoff final last year. Get a grip. Let’s see where we are after say 5 games... my guess will be holding up the other 23 clubs. Just to add we where above Derby last season in the premiership, so don’t get the relevance of them being in the play off final. We have a good squad for this level, far better than the one we had three seasons ago, but they are under performing because we have a third rate coach that clearly does not have a clue!
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Post by Melc on Aug 7, 2019 11:36:39 GMT 1
Don't you worry 'bout a thing... I honestly believe we will come good very soon, there is sill another 135 points to play and judging by the second half we are a match for any championship team. UTT The second half was literally the footballing equivalent of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" as Derby sat back and let us pass it around the back with hardly any goal threat ever being produced. Unfortunately after 45 minutes of this season the same problems are evident, no tooth in the final third and we've been figured out. Something needs to change quickly. 90% of that team has lost 90% of matches under Siewert and his system, how do you convince them that all of a sudden it will come good? I wouldn't be believing that if i played for him. After all, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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Post by wigster on Aug 7, 2019 12:19:57 GMT 1
I'll tell you what's happening Jimmy. We've grown too accustomed to being spoilt. Cheap season tickets while the club competes at the highest level it's been at for nigh on 50 yrs (most clubs would have hiked prices at this point). We've seen that experience crumble a little last season, but if people want to get back to the heady heights they're going to have to stop the moaning and hope that their efforts will spark a recovery in the mindset of the team. I'm sure the players are feeling this, getting kicked in the bollocks on social media, at the games etc. isn't really going to help them. The fans have as big a part to play in this, off the field and away from matchday. Otherwise the prophets of doom will just see their prophecy play out, but will probably miss the fact they might have played a small part in that outcome... I know we have this discussion every season Atlantis and I will repeat that I admire your positivity and enthusiasm. Anyone who can write "we've seen that experience crumble a little last season" about a season which, by any criteria, was awful, must see the best in everything. If ever a team deserved relegation, by whatever criteria you use, it was us. Where I do disagree with you today is your implied, in fact it's not even implied, statement that the "moaners" are going to be to blame, partly, for any lack of recovery. Support at the actual matches has been magnificent - regardless of the results/performances -and most posters on here are rational and reasoned. Yes,I'm sure all players prefer praise than criticism (they have to earn it)but supporters are human and we should be allowed to be critical/angry/depressed/fickle if we feel things are wrong - that's what this board is for.To be fair, most of my friends, who are unhappy with what's happening, don't post on DATM or elsewhere. To put it mildly, there's been precious little to get excited about for the last 18 months - for some reasons that I'm sure are understandable and others that are not - and just as you have a right to regularly come on here and encourage us to be hopeful and positive, so others have the right to express their disappointment or frustration, even if it means that their "prophecy" will "play out".If Town continue to struggle, it's not because some DATMers aren't happy. That said, a few wins by the end of August and the board will be a much happier place !
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Post by Stiggy on Aug 7, 2019 12:35:15 GMT 1
Like I said if Kachunga " had been more clinical we wouldn't have lost " He was never gonna score in a million years. 4 Derby players busting a gut to cover and block as well. Half chance at best. He could have cut it back to our players who were in miles of space.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Aug 7, 2019 12:38:52 GMT 1
He was never gonna score in a million years. 4 Derby players busting a gut to cover and block as well. Half chance at best. He could have cut it back to our players who were in miles of space. Exactly, Grant in acres on the edge of the 6 yard box but then that would have required composure....
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 7, 2019 12:53:56 GMT 1
He could have cut it back to our players who were in miles of space. Exactly, Grant in acres on the edge of the 6 yard box but then that would have required composure.... Absolutely, but unfortunately that's one of the things that disappears when you're down on your arse mentally... Same thing should have happened with that Diakhaby chance early on as well. These players are desperate to get a goal, purely to improve their mental state, so the composure element is shot to shit.
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Post by JG Mellor on Aug 7, 2019 13:42:03 GMT 1
We lost the first game of the season by one goal to the side who got to the playoff final last year. Get a grip. You obviously haven't seen the game then. There as a lot wrong with that performance from a group of players who have in the main been together for a long time, and a manager who has had 6 months to get his ideas across.
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