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Post by JG Mellor on Aug 7, 2019 13:52:57 GMT 1
Why is there any surprise? We’re set up as a middling Championship club, the EPL secured that, that’s all. We were a bottom third Championship club, the gods aligned and delivered an unlikely promotion, no we’re back down and simply have to realign our thoughts to supporting a club that will likely finish somewhere between 8th and 12th in any given season. And when that’s the case, we’ll continue to lose games and look a bit rubbish at times. Anyone expecting a promotion charge is off their heads and is going to be disappointed. The expectation is unreal...with the squad we had and signings we made, relegation was inevitable from day one, that we stayed up was incredible. And now, with the squad we have, we’ll finish above say 15th, what more do folk really expect...that we somehow win every game and set a new record points haul as we romp to the title? You obviously haven't seen the game either. In the first half they looked like 10 blokes who'd won a raffle to play a championship match for HTFC. I have watched Town for over 50 years and the first half was right up there with other top  moments I've had watching them. My expectation is as it as always been - we compete to our best ability - no more - no less. We simply didn't - we looked clueless. UTMT |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 14:12:24 GMT 1
We lost the first game of the season by one goal to the side who got to the playoff final last year. Get a grip. You obviously haven't seen the game then. There as a lot wrong with that performance from a group of players who have in the main been together for a long time, and a manager who has had 6 months to get his ideas across. I was there right through to the end, including clapping the players off. I was disappointed that they did not all come across to the Kilner Bank after the game but I think that was mostly disappointment. They kept working through to the end and if one of the good chances had gone in the feedback on here would be different. There are a lot of posters who come on here when we lose and another lot who just seem to anticipate our downfall. I know last year was awful but give the squad a few games at least before judging them, and until then we are the 12th man so keep the faith! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 14:44:23 GMT 1
We lost the first game of the season by one goal to the side who got to the playoff final last year. Get a grip. Let’s see where we are after say 5 games... my guess will be holding up the other 23 clubs. Just to add we where above Derby last season in the premiership, so don’t get the relevance of them being in the play off final. We have a good squad for this level, far better than the one we had three seasons ago, but they are under performing because we have a third rate coach that clearly does not have a clue! The relevance is they had a strong end to a good season so their confidence is probably pretty high. Also we were only above them because of the division boundary. I don’t think we were a better team. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 15:51:15 GMT 1
Why is there any surprise? We’re set up as a middling Championship club, the EPL secured that, that’s all. We were a bottom third Championship club, the gods aligned and delivered an unlikely promotion, no we’re back down and simply have to realign our thoughts to supporting a club that will likely finish somewhere between 8th and 12th in any given season. And when that’s the case, we’ll continue to lose games and look a bit rubbish at times. Anyone expecting a promotion charge is off their heads and is going to be disappointed. The expectation is unreal...with the squad we had and signings we made, relegation was inevitable from day one, that we stayed up was incredible. And now, with the squad we have, we’ll finish above say 15th, what more do folk really expect...that we somehow win every game and set a new record points haul as we romp to the title? You obviously haven't seen the game either. In the first half they looked like 10 blokes who'd won a raffle to play a championship match for HTFC. I have watched Town for over 50 years and the first half was right up there with other top moments I've had watching them. My expectation is as it as always been - we compete to our best ability - no more - no less. We simply didn't - we looked clueless. UTMT I saw the game (admittedly on TV as I'm away). You have memory problems or you've not watched many games over the years if that's up there as a top match. I've been watching only about 40 years and it doesn't come close! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 18:05:41 GMT 1
We lost the first game of the season by one goal to the side who got to the playoff final last year. Get a grip. It was only the first game and I know people appear to be overreacting but .... I do not think it was the fact that we lost to a team ,as you say was the play off finalist ,that has got so many wound up. It was the manner of the defeat. An inept first half followed by a better second but in which the Derby keeper only had to make one save. We could have been watching any number of games from last season ,except that it was against much inferior opposition. Making the same mistakes week after week and expecting a different outcome is madness. I want every Town manager to succeed but just cannot see any signs of progress with JS and thought of 3 windows with this one would a disaster imo. TTID I do hear what you are saying but I think we need to give it some time in this league before we write off the future with JS. It was a ridiculous test for him back end of last season and it would not have happened if DW had not decided to go when he did. JS is still learning and as our new owner said it is probably a 3 transfer window transformation. If we are top half of the table at the end of this season and playing better football as the season goes on I will be happy. Last season seems to have knocked a lot of peoples confidence, players and supporters. The club seems to have a long term plan and we need to support the club in that. It was a decent game to watch on Monday, even if it was frustrating. Keep the faith. |
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Post by dugnet on Aug 7, 2019 21:26:39 GMT 1
Isn't life and football funny? From complete stability and optimism to complete uncertainty in the space of a few weeks.
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Post by terrier2019 on Aug 7, 2019 21:33:00 GMT 1
I’m worried how long we can go along before fans start turning and leaving in droves. First game it’s been clearly visible just how many empty seats there was for two seasons. A lot of us are still on holiday (it is the school holidays after all) which would explain many of the empty seats. plus it was monday night and on sky |
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Post by yappledapple on Aug 7, 2019 21:45:00 GMT 1
Isn't life and football funny? From complete stability and optimism to complete uncertainty in the space of a few weeks. A few weeks? 90 minutes I think! |
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Post by hypotenuse on Aug 7, 2019 21:53:17 GMT 1
Like I said if Kachunga " had been more clinical we wouldn't have lost "  He was never gonna score in a million years. 4 Derby players busting a gut to cover and block as well. Half chance at best. Crikey. If that was a half chance, what would you consider a good chance - a tap in from six inches out with the goalkeeper prostrate on the ground? |
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Post by mayorofcov (BFHB) Honours on Aug 7, 2019 21:57:25 GMT 1
Toys yet again out the pram too early
Give the lad a chance for fuk sake
We’ve only played one game
Wagner’s fooked us up not Jan
Give the lad a chance
Onwards and upwards
See ya At QPR YA HIDEOUS BRETHREN
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 7, 2019 22:05:18 GMT 1
Toys yet again out the pram too early Give the lad a chance for fuk sake We’ve only played one game Wagner’s fooked us up not Jan Give the lad a chance Onwards and upwards See ya At QPR YA HIDEOUS BRETHREN |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 7, 2019 22:08:36 GMT 1
Always try to lose a little ballast before Lotus Road or you can't fit in the bleeding seats.
Rather play em later in the season due to it being cosy.😎😎🌞
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Post by terrierist on Aug 8, 2019 0:40:03 GMT 1
Are you disputing the stat? Because i'm living in 2019 not 2016/17. He has scored once since April 14th 2017. Stop trying to turn this into a Kachunga bash, it's not. I think he'll do better at this level and be ok this season, i said i liked the player. My point is that that chance was not gilt edged at all. It was a difficult one that most players would struggle with yet some on here and our manager are clinging to it as the chance we should have taken to avoid defeat (whih also includes a huge prediction that derby would have not have reacted which is also highly unlikely). It genuinely wasn't, he was off balance, controlling a ball at speed, playing his first minutes of the season after a totally demoralising run under this manager last season and the keeper and defence between them had most of the goal covered! The main issue is that we keep trying to do the same thing and its failed all but once to win a game! You're the one who is turning this into a Kachunga bash, harping on about the lack of goals he scored over the last 2 seasons when we were in the premier league You freakin idiot. If we're talking freakin idiots maybe you should learn to understand English first and the intended meaning of my posts before jumping on your little keyboard and being aggressive and personal. I was saying that YOU are turning MY post into a Kachunga bash... Which it most definitely wasn't, hence me saying he'll be better this season than last, think he's a good player etc. My stat merely backed up that if you're wanting that ball to drop and become the amazing chance you seem to incessantly believe it was then you'd want it to drop for someone else. Please leave it now, you got your assumption wrong and clearly missed the point. Even if that chance had gone in and we'd have got a point it would, in many eyes, have been lucky and quite honestly undeserved based on our performance. We didnt do enough to pressure a side that lost most of their attacking flair and man at the helm steering them. Our continuity is based on losing, and losing quite woefully at that, something i fear will be nigh on impossible to break without major change. |
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Post by drbaldric on Aug 8, 2019 2:24:23 GMT 1
The concern to me is that we seem so unprepared. Dean Hoyle said in that recent podcast that he knew we were down at Christmas. Surely we should have had all our ducks in a row for the new championship season from that point. It seems particularly odd that we have only just appointed a director of football, when it is too late to affect the start of the new campaign. Shouldn't we have got him in early to plan for the new season? It was explained already that they knew what they wanted and didn’t want the burden of this transfer window weighing on a new DoF and having the daggers out for him before he’s got his feet under the table. Probably wise given the signings we’ve made. Aren't the signings we've made very much positive for the future? I mean we have spent as much as we did on Tom Denton and Oscar Goburn. Koroma and Brown fill me with way more confidence than those two did. For the same outlay. |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Aug 8, 2019 4:06:39 GMT 1
We lost the first game of the season by one goal to the side who got to the playoff final last year. Get a grip. Dominated for largely the second half and should feel harshly done by with their first goal. |
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Aug 8, 2019 8:09:02 GMT 1
You're the one who is turning this into a Kachunga bash, harping on about the lack of goals he scored over the last 2 seasons when we were in the premier league You freakin idiot. If we're talking freakin idiots maybe you should learn to understand English first and the intended meaning of my posts before jumping on your little keyboard and being aggressive and personal. I was saying that YOU are turning MY post into a Kachunga bash... Which it most definitely wasn't, hence me saying he'll be better this season than last, think he's a good player etc. My stat merely backed up that if you're wanting that ball to drop and become the amazing chance you seem to incessantly believe it was then you'd want it to drop for someone else. Please leave it now, you got your assumption wrong and clearly missed the point. Even if that chance had gone in and we'd have got a point it would, in many eyes, have been lucky and quite honestly undeserved based on our performance. We didnt do enough to pressure a side that lost most of their attacking flair and man at the helm steering them. Our continuity is based on losing, and losing quite woefully at that, something i fear will be nigh on impossible to break without major change. Clown |
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Post by stanton1969 on Aug 8, 2019 18:15:36 GMT 1
He was never gonna score in a million years. 4 Derby players busting a gut to cover and block as well. Half chance at best. Crikey. If that was a half chance, what would you consider a good chance - a tap in from six inches out with the goalkeeper prostrate on the ground? Facetious. |
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moments I've had watching them. My expectation is as it as always been - we compete to our best ability - no more - no less. We simply didn't - we looked clueless. UTMT
