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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 9, 2019 9:45:38 GMT 1
FWIW - I like Jarvis, he's a good bloke, it's just a poorly worded statement at the wrong time. Feel's rushed and forced by the club. You could've said that first time. |
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Post by York Terrier on Aug 9, 2019 9:46:18 GMT 1
In my opinion there are two issues here firstly SJ is I am certain not responsible for the day to day running,transfers,new players etc. He is though responsible for encouraging companies and supporters to sponsor and invests extra monies into the club over and above the normal season ticket holder. On this basis I think a few of the sponsors will be wondering what is going on as they are also fans and can see that the New Chairman, playing staff and management do not appear to be able to recreate the spirit of togetherness we had with DW and DH over the last 3 years.
Secondly as noted in previous posts on this subject there is a great deal of disappointment that AM has gone along with others bringing in a lot of money and been replaced with
Players who possibly have the potential to make it at championship level, but as we found out last season doing exactly the same thing nothing beats having players who are tried and tested at the level we are playing at, otherwise you can fail spectacularly ( like last season) and we appear to be making the same mistake again.
I like others are sceptical about the fact that we are being told we have no monies after two year’s feasting in the premiership trough and after receiving £19m for player and getting a lot of players off the books to reduce the wage bill and fans will jump to conclusions about the new chairman when no monies are being spent to strengthen the team.
I know we have only played one game but the true Terrier spirit appears to have been lost and we have a New chairman supporting a Manager most fans would like to see gone ,no monies being spent to strengthen the team, and the fans favourite player leaving.
On this basis, given what happened last season it’s it’s quite easy to understand how the fans feel let down and the New Chairman probably deserves some of the flak that his coming his way at present and in my opinion it will only ramp up even more if we loose at QPR this Saturday.
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Post by blueandbrightside on Aug 9, 2019 9:54:40 GMT 1
I'm not a commercial director of a football club, the whole wording of the letter is amateurish, my response can be pathetic if i chose to be as i am not addressing the complete fan base. See this is the problem with social media. On the one hand you say the whole wording is crap, then you say ‘well I’m not a commercial director’. No you’re not, so pipe down with the shitty comments. Then you go on to say ‘my response can be pathetic’. Yes it can, it is pathetic but that’s your choice to be pathetic. But don’t get all defensive when someone pulls you on it. Just because you have the right to post pathetic comments doesn’t give you the right to be immune from a response. All this shit about ‘It’s my right to post what I want’. It is and I also have the right to tell you to the read your initial post and think about it and then admit it was a stupid comment. This is more than just social media. I’ve experienced it at work; I left the room and when someone was challenged they were giving me a hard time (and been pretty rude/unfriendly in the process) by one of their own colleagues they justified it by saying I earned more money than them so was basically fair game. I was in fact earning less and this was pointed out. The next time I walked in the room the person was my friend and could suddenly have a normal conversation. I’ve helped with a kids sports team, it’s like a mini version of Town, everyone telling you what to do, how to do it, what you are doing wrong. Where are they when the nets need putting up/taking down and it’s cold? Having a coffee in their cars nice and warm. Where are they if YOU lose, having a pop. Where are they if THEY and their kids win? All over it having a great time. How many come and thank you win or lose, a few balanced people. How many are having a pop, a few. The rest, bumble along in the middle not right bothered either way but likely to be swayed by the noisy extremes, which sadly is more often than not the negative ones, whether it’s justified or not. Write and speak at least half reasonably and politely; is that too much to hope for? Yes it’s football, many of us typical working class, but we don’t need to fall into a media stereotype do we? I stand and yell, maybe swear sometimes if I get a bit carried away (I try not to do that loudly or use very bad language as appreciate it’s not for all these days), in the stand. I’m not perfect but I wouldn’t even dream of saying/posting some of the stuff I see online. Piss take, banter, love it (again some might not and some say bullying). Abuse someone who isn’t here with a voice to respond, pointless. Make daft unsubstantiated statements, damaging (not just the club, it actually changes my mood somethings coming on here when the shit is flying, I’m sure I’m not alone). Think before you spout before you post. It’s not harmless. UTT |
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 9, 2019 9:56:21 GMT 1
Sean’s comments were probably made after a barrage of abuse and questions at him. As he rightly said it’s probably not his remit to answer those “team” issues, maybe he was compelled to do so because of commercial partners also questioning for a club response. Frankly speaking, we’ve been waiting for a second interview from our new chairman for how long now? It seems that fans are being taken for granted at the moment and communication to us isn’t what it should be from either the head honcho or his immediate lieutenant, both of whom had promised we had signings lined up. Thanks Sean for the effort, don’t be despondent from the mindless abuse given from others. We do as a fan base deserve to be treated as customers and not mushrooms from those at the head seats. There was a great q&a session with PH a few weeks back. Not good quality but must be on YouTube somewhere. Quite enlightening. |
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Post by royrace on Aug 9, 2019 9:57:42 GMT 1
Why is it left to Jarvis yet again to try to placate the fans via Twitter in a matter that is absolutely nothing to do with him whatsoever?? Some questions need answering, the main one being what the fcuk is this deal all about, why did it happen last day, where is the replacement and why did the report of the option on Mooy get removed from the website the morning of his transfer? That's just for starters. Was it a typo or are the club lieing in order to provide justification for letting Mooy leave? I'd like to think its the former but how the hell does that even happen without anyone noticing at the time?  Just relegated from the PL told we are in rude health financially yet we've had a far worse window that the vast majority of championship sides, what the hell is going on? |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 9, 2019 10:00:46 GMT 1
I'm not a commercial director of a football club, the whole wording of the letter is amateurish, my response can be pathetic if i chose to be as i am not addressing the complete fan base. See this is the problem with social media. On the one hand you say the whole wording is crap, then you say ‘well I’m not a commercial director’. No you’re not, so pipe down with the shitty comments. Then you go on to say ‘my response can be pathetic’. Yes it can, it is pathetic but that’s your choice to be pathetic. But don’t get all defensive when someone pulls you on it. Just because you have the right to post pathetic comments doesn’t give you the right to be immune from a response. All this shit about ‘It’s my right to post what I want’. It is and I also have the right to tell you to the read your initial post and think about it and then admit it was a stupid comment. Not getting defensive pal, people can post what they want and that's why forum's work in the way they do. I'm not going to get my back up over what someone says to me on here? Football is a passionate game and you're going to get mixed responses in times like this, that's why debates are often good. I'll stand by my comments that it's a poorly worded post from Sean, I'm not a confrontational person and if someone doesn't like what my view is I certainly wouldn't expect them to lose sleep over it. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 9, 2019 10:03:29 GMT 1
Why is it left to Jarvis yet again to try to placate the fans via Twitter in a matter that is absolutely nothing to do with him whatsoever?? Some questions need answering, the main one being what the fcuk is this deal all about, why did it happen last day, where is the replacement and why did the report of the option on Mooy get removed from the website the morning of his transfer? That's just for starters. Was it a typo or are the club lieing in order to provide justification for letting Mooy leave? I'd like to think its the former but how the hell does that even happen without anyone noticing at the time? Just relegated from the PL told we are in rude health financially yet we've had a far worse window that the vast majority of championship sides, what the hell is going on? All good key questions. Not replacing Mooy with a player capable of influencing a Championship game will I think prove to be our biggest downfall. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 9, 2019 10:03:38 GMT 1
See this is the problem with social media. On the one hand you say the whole wording is crap, then you say ‘well I’m not a commercial director’. No you’re not, so pipe down with the shitty comments. Then you go on to say ‘my response can be pathetic’. Yes it can, it is pathetic but that’s your choice to be pathetic. But don’t get all defensive when someone pulls you on it. Just because you have the right to post pathetic comments doesn’t give you the right to be immune from a response. All this shit about ‘It’s my right to post what I want’. It is and I also have the right to tell you to the read your initial post and think about it and then admit it was a stupid comment. Not getting defensive pal, people can post what they want and that's why forum's work in the way they do. I'm not going to get my back up over what someone says to me on here? Football is a passionate game and you're going to get mixed responses in times like this, that's why debates are often good. I'll stand by my comments that it's a poorly worded post from Sean, I'm not a confrontational person and if someone doesn't like what my view is I certainly wouldn't expect them to lose sleep over it. So telling Sean Jarvis to fuck off is not confrontational? |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 9, 2019 10:07:37 GMT 1
Not getting defensive pal, people can post what they want and that's why forum's work in the way they do. I'm not going to get my back up over what someone says to me on here? Football is a passionate game and you're going to get mixed responses in times like this, that's why debates are often good. I'll stand by my comments that it's a poorly worded post from Sean, I'm not a confrontational person and if someone doesn't like what my view is I certainly wouldn't expect them to lose sleep over it. So telling Sean Jarvis to fuck off is not confrontational? This could go on and on, in hindsight yes it could be deemed so however there is disharmony amongst many fans currently. Emotions are heightened, things get misconstrued, Sean as I have said prior is a genuinely good bloke I just don't agree with the statement as it is just an attempt to gloss over matters. Whether you agree or you don't that's your choice and I'm not going to argue with you over your own views. The same view applies from both of our sides however we both want the best for the club on and off the pitch. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 10:09:26 GMT 1
Why is it left to Jarvis yet again to try to placate the fans via Twitter in a matter that is absolutely nothing to do with him whatsoever?? Some questions need answering, the main one being what the fcuk is this deal all about, why did it happen last day, where is the replacement and why did the report of the option on Mooy get removed from the website the morning of his transfer? That's just for starters. Was it a typo or are the club lieing in order to provide justification for letting Mooy leave? I'd like to think its the former but how the hell does that even happen without anyone noticing at the time? Just relegated from the PL told we are in rude health financially yet we've had a far worse window that the vast majority of championship sides, what the hell is going on? All good key questions. Not replacing Mooy with a player capable of influencing a Championship game will I think prove to be our biggest downfall. A question that PH answered at the Q&A. Players we lose this late in the window we will have to cope until January. Just the way it is. |
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Post by irverino on Aug 9, 2019 11:12:46 GMT 1
So telling Sean Jarvis to fuck off is not confrontational? This could go on and on, in hindsight yes it could be deemed so however there is disharmony amongst many fans currently. Emotions are heightened, things get misconstrued, Sean as I have said prior is a genuinely good bloke I just don't agree with the statement as it is just an attempt to gloss over matters. Whether you agree or you don't that's your choice and I'm not going to argue with you over your own views. The same view applies from both of our sides however we both want the best for the club on and off the pitch. SJ used to make sure certain lads were 'always' successful in the ballot......so, a genuinely good bloke to some! |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Aug 9, 2019 11:16:16 GMT 1
I think some people are getting carried away. Mooy wanted to go...its life. Last season everyone was saying Billing was our best player but when he wanted to go most were pleased. Storm in a tea cup. We go on. Dean and Phil said right from the off there would not be loads of high profile and high cost signings. Its Seans twitter account...not a club statement. He is not only right... he is free to say this. My only concern is Seans font size...he must have terribly poor eyesight  |
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Post by royrace on Aug 9, 2019 11:23:11 GMT 1
All good key questions. Not replacing Mooy with a player capable of influencing a Championship game will I think prove to be our biggest downfall. A question that PH answered at the Q&A. Players we lose this late in the window we will have to cope until January. Just the way it is. Do you think it was ever realistic that we would have replacements lined up waiting even if he went 2 weeks ago? I dont. Also the 'out of this world' (paraphrasing) offer turned out to be a one year loan move to Brighton  I naively expected it would have to be a hefty 7 figure sum, you know the sort of money you could used to try to replace the player(s) not another chuck of money presumably earmarked for balancing the books medium term or dare I even say it helping with the takeover. |
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Post by specialun on Aug 9, 2019 11:26:58 GMT 1
Sensible move to get Jarvis to make a statement who is respected by the fans
No point Hodgkinson doing in the heat of the moment
And fair play for doing it
I will add this though for Sean - He has done a tremendous job as Commercial Director over a long period of time. A lot of respect for him in that role
But I wish he would stop saying I don’t make football decisions
You’re missing the point here Sean imo - You are a statutory director of the football club company and that brings with it additional statutory duties / responsibilities. As a Director of the football club you cannot hide behind football decisions
But... if Hodgkinson isn’t making the statement then where on earth is our CEO. Yet again.... nowhere. Just like in December / January after Hoyle’s daft sleepwalking statement
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Post by Stiggy on Aug 9, 2019 11:31:29 GMT 1
We just need to get back to winning ways and fast. Unfortunately we've had another disastrous transfer period that doesn't give us a good chance of doing so.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 11:52:51 GMT 1
A question that PH answered at the Q&A. Players we lose this late in the window we will have to cope until January. Just the way it is. Do you think it was ever realistic that we would have replacements lined up waiting even if he went 2 weeks ago? I dont. Also the 'out of this world' (paraphrasing) offer turned out to be a one year loan move to Brighton I naively expected it would have to be a hefty 7 figure sum, you know the sort of money you could used to try to replace the player(s) not another chuck of money presumably earmarked for balancing the books medium term or dare I even say it helping with the takeover. You can believe whatever you want, that's your perogative. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 11:58:47 GMT 1
Answers nothing just a bunch of rallying words, fuck off. its people like you who need to ---- --- as you crudely post. what club wants posters like you. |
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Post by detox on Aug 9, 2019 12:19:28 GMT 1
In my opinion there are two issues here firstly SJ is I am certain not responsible for the day to day running,transfers,new players etc. He is though responsible for encouraging companies and supporters to sponsor and invests extra monies into the club over and above the normal season ticket holder. On this basis I think a few of the sponsors will be wondering what is going on as they are also fans and can see that the New Chairman, playing staff and management do not appear to be able to recreate the spirit of togetherness we had with DW and DH over the last 3 years. Secondly as noted in previous posts on this subject there is a great deal of disappointment that AM has gone along with others bringing in a lot of money and been replaced with Players who possibly have the potential to make it at championship level, but as we found out last season doing exactly the same thing nothing beats having players who are tried and tested at the level we are playing at, otherwise you can fail spectacularly ( like last season) and we appear to be making the same mistake again. I like others are sceptical about the fact that we are being told we have no monies after two year’s feasting in the premiership trough and after receiving £19m for player and getting a lot of players off the books to reduce the wage bill and fans will jump to conclusions about the new chairman when no monies are being spent to strengthen the team. I know we have only played one game but the true Terrier spirit appears to have been lost and we have a New chairman supporting a Manager most fans would like to see gone ,no monies being spent to strengthen the team, and the fans favourite player leaving. On this basis, given what happened last season it’s it’s quite easy to understand how the fans feel let down and the New Chairman probably deserves some of the flak that his coming his way at present and in my opinion it will only ramp up even more if we loose at QPR this Saturday. Not a good strategy broadcasting we're minted and then trying to negotiate reasonable transfer deals with clubs tbh.... |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 9, 2019 12:21:58 GMT 1
All good key questions. Not replacing Mooy with a player capable of influencing a Championship game will I think prove to be our biggest downfall. A question that PH answered at the Q&A. Players we lose this late in the window we will have to cope until January. Just the way it is. Would that be the same January window where town always use the excuse that there is no value and we won't be held to ransom I guess we'll have to wait until next summer |
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 9, 2019 12:23:56 GMT 1
A question that PH answered at the Q&A. Players we lose this late in the window we will have to cope until January. Just the way it is. Would that be the same January window where town always use the excuse that there is no value and we won't be held to ransom I guess we'll have to wait until next summer Except we've done well out of our last three January windows. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 9, 2019 12:26:08 GMT 1
Would that be the same January window where town always use the excuse that there is no value and we won't be held to ransom I guess we'll have to wait until next summer Except we've done well out of our last three January windows. Debatable |
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Post by rooo on Aug 9, 2019 12:28:56 GMT 1
Do you think it was ever realistic that we would have replacements lined up waiting even if he went 2 weeks ago? I dont. Also the 'out of this world' (paraphrasing) offer turned out to be a one year loan move to Brighton I naively expected it would have to be a hefty 7 figure sum, you know the sort of money you could used to try to replace the player(s) not another chuck of money presumably earmarked for balancing the books medium term or dare I even say it helping with the takeover. You can believe whatever you want, that's your perogative. This may answer some people's concerns (but only some! 🙄 ): www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/uncovered-aaron-mooy-huddersfield-town-16726384 |
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 9, 2019 12:29:23 GMT 1
Except we've done well out of our last three January windows. Debatable How so? Izzy Brown a big factor in our promotion (even Collin provided a couple of crucial contributions), Kongolo and Pritchard helped keep us up and this year we got Grant. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 12:59:20 GMT 1
A question that PH answered at the Q&A. Players we lose this late in the window we will have to cope until January. Just the way it is. Would that be the same January window where town always use the excuse that there is no value and we won't be held to ransom I guess we'll have to wait until next summer I'll say tbe same to you. Believe what you want |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Aug 9, 2019 13:04:00 GMT 1
See this is the problem with social media. On the one hand you say the whole wording is crap, then you say ‘well I’m not a commercial director’. No you’re not, so pipe down with the shitty comments. Then you go on to say ‘my response can be pathetic’. Yes it can, it is pathetic but that’s your choice to be pathetic. But don’t get all defensive when someone pulls you on it. Just because you have the right to post pathetic comments doesn’t give you the right to be immune from a response. All this shit about ‘It’s my right to post what I want’. It is and I also have the right to tell you to the read your initial post and think about it and then admit it was a stupid comment. This is more than just social media. I’ve experienced it at work; I left the room and when someone was challenged they were giving me a hard time (and been pretty rude/unfriendly in the process) by one of their own colleagues they justified it by saying I earned more money than them so was basically fair game. I was in fact earning less and this was pointed out. The next time I walked in the room the person was my friend and could suddenly have a normal conversation. I’ve helped with a kids sports team, it’s like a mini version of Town, everyone telling you what to do, how to do it, what you are doing wrong. Where are they when the nets need putting up/taking down and it’s cold? Having a coffee in their cars nice and warm. Where are they if YOU lose, having a pop. Where are they if THEY and their kids win? All over it having a great time. How many come and thank you win or lose, a few balanced people. How many are having a pop, a few. The rest, bumble along in the middle not right bothered either way but likely to be swayed by the noisy extremes, which sadly is more often than not the negative ones, whether it’s justified or not. Write and speak at least half reasonably and politely; is that too much to hope for? Yes it’s football, many of us typical working class, but we don’t need to fall into a media stereotype do we? I stand and yell, maybe swear sometimes if I get a bit carried away (I try not to do that loudly or use very bad language as appreciate it’s not for all these days), in the stand. I’m not perfect but I wouldn’t even dream of saying/posting some of the stuff I see online. Piss take, banter, love it (again some might not and some say bullying). Abuse someone who isn’t here with a voice to respond, pointless. Make daft unsubstantiated statements, damaging (not just the club, it actually changes my mood somethings coming on here when the shit is flying, I’m sure I’m not alone). Think before you spout before you post. It’s not harmless. UTT Excellent points. |
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 9, 2019 13:10:12 GMT 1
I have lost even more respect for the chairman now. He has basically thrown Jarvis to the wolves because he is too gutless to come out and say something himself
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Post by townrwe on Aug 9, 2019 13:42:10 GMT 1
I have lost even more respect for the chairman now. He has basically thrown Jarvis to the wolves because he is too gutless to come out and say something himself Gonna need a good following to QPR to provide enough busses to throw folk under....... |
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Post by Town Duppy on Aug 9, 2019 14:19:28 GMT 1
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Post by royrace on Aug 9, 2019 14:54:03 GMT 1
Do you think it was ever realistic that we would have replacements lined up waiting even if he went 2 weeks ago? I dont. Also the 'out of this world' (paraphrasing) offer turned out to be a one year loan move to Brighton I naively expected it would have to be a hefty 7 figure sum, you know the sort of money you could used to try to replace the player(s) not another chuck of money presumably earmarked for balancing the books medium term or dare I even say it helping with the takeover. You can believe whatever you want, that's your perogative. Thanks. What's your opinion? Seems odd to reply but not express one? Why bother? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 15:29:20 GMT 1
You can believe whatever you want, that's your perogative. Thanks. What's your opinion? Seems odd to reply but not express one? Why bother? You said do I believe the rhetoric regarding replacements because you don't. It's all subjective and until I see unequivocal proof the man is telling lies i'll take his word for it. |
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