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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Aug 9, 2019 7:40:17 GMT 1
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Post by froggyterrier on Aug 9, 2019 8:17:43 GMT 1
The mood of the club is the lowest it has been in over a decade. |
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Post by rastrick32 on Aug 9, 2019 8:22:32 GMT 1
Whilst I think this is an honest attempt to calm the waters, I find it bizarre that a Commercial Director is issuing rallying calls on footballing matters.
The club should say nowt at the moment as anything is inevitably kneejerk. If they feel a need to 'converse' with fans, then it should be Jan or the owner who speak. No disrespect to Mr Jarvis as I know that this is done with the best of intentions
It just gives a very amateurish impression.
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Post by Captainchampo on Aug 9, 2019 8:26:21 GMT 1
I can understand this and I want to believe that PH has the club's interests a heart. However I still have a very uneasy feeling about the future especially with Siewert in charge, who does not fill me with any confidence and has not shown enough improvement in the team.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 9, 2019 8:26:50 GMT 1
Answers nothing just a bunch of rallying words, fuck off.
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 9, 2019 8:29:30 GMT 1
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Post by townatheart on Aug 9, 2019 8:30:43 GMT 1
Whilst I think this is an honest attempt to calm the waters, I find it bizarre that a Commercial Director is issuing rallying calls on footballing matters. The club should say nowt at the moment as anything is inevitably kneejerk. If they feel a need to 'converse' with fans, then it should be Jan or the owner who speak. No disrespect to Mr Jarvis as I know that this is done with the best of intentions It just gives a very amateurish impression. Possibly, but on the other hand, they say nowt as you suggest, and then someone else will have a dig because they don't say anything! |
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Post by townatheart on Aug 9, 2019 8:33:19 GMT 1
Answers nothing just a bunch of rallying words, fuck off. Simply pathetic. Only IMO of course, only expressing my opinion like, blah blah blah blah. Have a lovely day. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 9, 2019 8:35:49 GMT 1
Answers nothing just a bunch of rallying words, fuck off. Tbf no need for that pathetic reply pal really pathetic |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 9, 2019 8:38:24 GMT 1
Answers nothing just a bunch of rallying words, fuck off. Tbf no need for that pathetic reply pal really pathetic I'm not a commercial director of a football club, the whole wording of the letter is amateurish, my response can be pathetic if i chose to be as i am not addressing the complete fan base. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 9, 2019 8:38:35 GMT 1
I think Town fans understand that good players go - we’ve all seen that in our times as fans
That’s not the point - the issue this time is there has been no meaningful effort to replace smith, loewe then billing and latterly mooy with championship ready quality
When booth left we signed morrison, Payton and Stewart on the same day
When Stewart left we signed hay, Holland and smith on the same day
When Rhodes left we got beckford on loan
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Post by rastrick32 on Aug 9, 2019 8:40:50 GMT 1
Whilst I think this is an honest attempt to calm the waters, I find it bizarre that a Commercial Director is issuing rallying calls on footballing matters. The club should say nowt at the moment as anything is inevitably kneejerk. If they feel a need to 'converse' with fans, then it should be Jan or the owner who speak. No disrespect to Mr Jarvis as I know that this is done with the best of intentions It just gives a very amateurish impression. Possibly, but on the other hand, they say nowt as you suggest, and then someone else will have a dig because they don't say anything! Yep, good point and perhaps I am showing my age! I distinctly remember when fans heard nowt from their club all the time! A win at QPR changes the landscape and will create a more settled environment for interactions between club and fans. I dread a defeat, I really do. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 9, 2019 8:47:36 GMT 1
I like Jarvis, think he does a great job at town and is one of the few that doesn't deserve any criticism. I'm not sure why he's the one making this statement. As others have said surely it should be the owner or Jan's job to do this. Even Winters job. The whole thing is a mess.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 9, 2019 8:48:20 GMT 1
If Sean gets abuse on Twitter and the likes then that is simply not on. The guy is commercial director and has absolutely nothing to do with footballing matters.
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For Sean to respond as above for me sends the wrong message (the club is good at doing that as of late).The person who should be addressing the fans concerns is not the commercial director, but the head honcho.
There are things that supporters do not need to know, but there are things that they simply should be made aware of. Supporters are the lifeblood of a club and keeping them onside at all times should be of paramount importance.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 9, 2019 8:48:37 GMT 1
FWIW - I like Jarvis, he's a good bloke, it's just a poorly worded statement at the wrong time.
Feel's rushed and forced by the club.
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Post by detox on Aug 9, 2019 8:49:41 GMT 1
There is much despondancy and criticism from many Town fans, but the real issue arose last summer with the millions spent on players who were simply not good enough. That story has been well told many a time but the after effects has seen DW leave, DH leave, relegation and the current reshaping and remodelling needed since relegation. it's alright blaming Phil or JS for these actions buy they were not responsible for the crisis that caused this. fans venting their spleens having a pop at these two guys need to direct their angst at those who caused our club to be in such mayhem, and not those who are hear to pick up the pieces of the disasterous summer of 2018. We have to cut our cloth now, that's the hard fact we face..it's painful and it's a long way from those glorious days of celebrating life in the PL...we all hurt but let's just keep our heads eh because you're just making things worse than they are. face up to our new situation and try and accept that Phil and JS and the rest of the staff are doing their best to keep the club solvent for the future...
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 9, 2019 8:51:55 GMT 1
I think it's more that with SJ coming & posting on here at times in the past, he might feel that he's sort of inherited the job, whether he wanted it or not.
The Mgr does speak to the fans, before and after every game. I can't recall any scenario where the Mgr has done a Q&A other than when they're unveiled?
Unfortunately, social media in scenarios like this, is trying to respond to a multitude of Q's in one post, so it will never land the message with everyone, because they'll read it and interpret it according to their own mood at that time.
The club is hardly on its arse though is it, been some daft over reactions on here these last couple of days.
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 9, 2019 8:53:44 GMT 1
Yes. It's very sad. I am sure we are all worried and uncertain about what's going to be happen, but some of the reaction on here has been awful. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 8:54:00 GMT 1
Tbf no need for that pathetic reply pal really pathetic I'm not a commercial director of a football club, the whole wording of the letter is amateurish, my response can be pathetic if i chose to be as i am not addressing the complete fan base. Not long ago Sean was accused of going into hiding when the going got tough. The fact he's got nothing to do with team matters made no difference, he's a director it was said. Well done Sean, I appreciate your common sense words, but you see what you're up against. |
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 9, 2019 8:55:19 GMT 1
I like Jarvis, think he does a great job at town and is one of the few that doesn't deserve any criticism. I'm not sure why he's the one making this statement. As others have said surely it should be the owner or Jan's job to do this. Even Winters job. The whole thing is a mess. With the mood from some people on here at the moment, I'm not so sure Jan or the new owner would get a hearing. |
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Post by El Mel on Aug 9, 2019 8:56:17 GMT 1
Answers nothing just a bunch of rallying words, fuck off. Why don't you log on to twitter or facebook, and reply directly to Sean with same repsonse? |
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Post by townatheart on Aug 9, 2019 9:01:26 GMT 1
FWIW - I like Jarvis, he's a good bloke, it's just a poorly worded statement at the wrong time. Feel's rushed and forced by the club. Another way, and again only IMO, to make a sensible constructive expression of your viewpoint. Seriously, well done.   |
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 9, 2019 9:03:16 GMT 1
Yes. It's very sad. I am sure we are all worried and uncertain about what's going to be happen, but some of the reaction on here has been awful. I think it’s more that many people cannot handle change. They have no idea how to deal with it - change is negative to many, although inevitable. People need to accept that the club is in a period of realignment. |
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Post by jonny5 on Aug 9, 2019 9:10:14 GMT 1
Given some of the abuse on here we should be grateful we haven’t lost a lot more, both in playing and non-playing staff. You’d seriously want to ask yourself if you wanted to be involved with the club with all the vitriolic comments, it’s not helpful at all.
We are all disappointed to see Mooy go but you can’t hold him back. We could still lose others but for now we keep hold of Schindler and Kongolo which is something positive. Plus Hogg has signed a new deal so that’s another positive. I get the frustrations but let’s keep it constructive and not abusive.
I’m sure the books are being balanced here (or whatever it maybe) we could probably have spent £50m but if that’s going to send us back to the Uncle Ken days then I’d rather take the status quo however difficult it is for us to stomach.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 9:11:53 GMT 1
FWIW - I like Jarvis, he's a good bloke, it's just a poorly worded statement at the wrong time. Feel's rushed and forced by the club. I read it and cringed at the wording. Which suggests it is not an official communication from the club, just SJ riding solo again, unauthorised, as in the pod-cast he did.
He's a good guy who's done well for us and has best intentions, but seemingly he does not always operate within the parameters of his role at the club.
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 9, 2019 9:15:43 GMT 1
FWIW - I like Jarvis, he's a good bloke, it's just a poorly worded statement at the wrong time. Feel's rushed and forced by the club. I read it and cringed at the wording. Which suggests it is not an official communication from the club, just SJ riding solo again, unauthorised, as in the pod-cast he did.
He's a good guy who's done well for us and has best intentions, but seemingly he does not always operate within the parameters of his role at the club.
Was DH’s podcast for the same group also unauthorised? |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 9, 2019 9:24:57 GMT 1
Tbf no need for that pathetic reply pal really pathetic I'm not a commercial director of a football club, the whole wording of the letter is amateurish, my response can be pathetic if i chose to be as i am not addressing the complete fan base. See this is the problem with social media. On the one hand you say the whole wording is crap, then you say ‘well I’m not a commercial director’. No you’re not, so pipe down with the shitty comments. Then you go on to say ‘my response can be pathetic’. Yes it can, it is pathetic but that’s your choice to be pathetic. But don’t get all defensive when someone pulls you on it. Just because you have the right to post pathetic comments doesn’t give you the right to be immune from a response. All this shit about ‘It’s my right to post what I want’. It is and I also have the right to tell you to the read your initial post and think about it and then admit it was a stupid comment. |
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Post by York Terrier on Aug 9, 2019 9:30:59 GMT 1
In my opinion there are two issues here firstly SJ is I am certain not responsible for the day to day running,transfers,new players etc. He is though responsible for encouraging companies and supporters to sponsor and invests extra monies into the club over and above the normal season ticket holder. On this basis I think a few of the sponsors will be wondering what is going on as they are also fans and can see that the New Chairman, playing staff and management do not appear to be able to recreate the spirit of togetherness we had with DW and DH over the last 3 years.
Secondly as noted in previous posts on this subject there is a great deal of disappointment that AM has gone along with others bringing in a lot of money and been replaced with
Players who possibly have the potential to make it at championship level, but as we found out last season doing exactly the same thing nothing beats having players who are tried and tested at the level we are playing at, otherwise you can fail spectacularly ( like last season) and we appear to be making the same mistake again.
I like others are sceptical about the fact that we are being told we have no monies after two year’s feasting in the premiership trough and after receiving £19m for player and getting a lot of players off the books to reduce the wage bill and fans will jump to conclusions about the new chairman when no monies are being spent to strengthen the team.
I know we have only played one game but the true Terrier spirit appears to have been lost and we have a New chairman supporting a Manager most fans would like to see gone ,no monies being spent to strengthen the team, and the fans favourite player leaving.
On this basis, given what happened last season it’s it’s quite easy to understand how the fans feel let down and the New Chairman probably deserves some of the flak that his coming his way at present and in my opinion it will only ramp up even more if we loose at QPR this Saturday.
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Post by hkterrier on Aug 9, 2019 9:31:22 GMT 1
Sean’s comments were probably made after a barrage of abuse and questions at him. As he rightly said it’s probably not his remit to answer those “team” issues, maybe he was compelled to do so because of commercial partners also questioning for a club response.
Frankly speaking, we’ve been waiting for a second interview from our new chairman for how long now? It seems that fans are being taken for granted at the moment and communication to us isn’t what it should be from either the head honcho or his immediate lieutenant, both of whom had promised we had signings lined up.
Thanks Sean for the effort, don’t be despondent from the mindless abuse given from others. We do as a fan base deserve to be treated as customers and not mushrooms from those at the head seats.
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Post by tommythacks on Aug 9, 2019 9:39:46 GMT 1
The response just completely misses the point. Yes, we're all disappointed to see Mooy go, but the majority accept that you risk losing your best players when you get relegated. That we've not signed any players of pedigree is the issue, having previously been told that those who leave will be replaced. Clearly Mooy leaving was always a possibility and there seems to have been no planning for it.
The silence on this is deafening. Even if the club said "We were in for a couple of players but couldn't get the deals done", that would be something. At the moment it just feels like they've been sat with their thumbs up their arses all summer
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