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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 10:55:04 GMT 1
Feel sorry for Jan, played a weak team as we are playing Fulham on Friday, if he'd of played more first teamers and they were knackered on Friday he'd be getting the blame, even if we won last night. The whole team lacks confidence, one win could change all that. The booing him off was an absolute disgrace, not going to help any situation, if anything makes it worse, all happy and clappy when it's going well, I fear too many fans have only come and seen the good times of late. Why only 2 subs? Why not start Mounie and VLP, neither are first teamers or even in matchbday squads. Why blame the players lack of fight. I have seen us relegated to every division, seen us go bust etc. I have never called for a manager to be sacked (even Wadsworth). I don't think 1 win (if we can get it) will give us confidence. I think a new manager is the best hope to give us some confidence. I'd stick by Jan if there were any signs he had a clue, but there aren't. We got a point in our last away game, you don't get a point away at QPR without a clue. I will still give him the ten LEAGUE games.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 10:56:16 GMT 1
Who do we want in Mark Hughes - No Thanks David Moyes - Maybe Big Sam - Nope Gary Rowett - Maybe Chris Houghton - Yes Martyn o'neill - No thanks Nigel Atkins - Mmmmmmm Gary Monk - HaHaHaHaHaHaHa Steve Cotteral - Nope Karanka - Yes As long as people learn to start spelling Hughton's name right then he would be number 1 choice (although not sure he would come) Moyes could be a good shout too We need an experienced manager i think if/when Jan gets the boot. Probably too early for Hudson/Whitehead.
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Post by willo on Aug 14, 2019 10:57:01 GMT 1
Who do we want in Mark Hughes - No Thanks David Moyes - Maybe Big Sam - Nope Gary Rowett - Maybe Chris Houghton - Yes Martyn o'neill - No thanks Nigel Atkins - Mmmmmmm Gary Monk - HaHaHaHaHaHaHa Steve Cotteral - Nope Karanka - Yes If we’re all agreed it’s an experienced coach that’s required, there’s only Hughton & Moyes I’d take on that list, possibly Rowett at a push.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 14, 2019 10:58:41 GMT 1
Who do we want in Mark Hughes - No Thanks David Moyes - Maybe Big Sam - Nope Gary Rowett - Maybe Chris Houghton - Yes Martyn o'neill - No thanks Nigel Atkins - Mmmmmmm Gary Monk - HaHaHaHaHaHaHa Steve Cotteral - Nope Karanka - Yes As long as people learn to start spelling Hughton's name right then he would be number 1 choice ( although not sure he would come) Moyes could be a good shout too We need an experienced manager i think if/when Jan gets the boot. Probably too early for Hudson/Whitehead. Precisely. Why would ANYONE come to us? What can we offer? I'm struggling...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 11:00:25 GMT 1
Who do we want in Mark Hughes - No Thanks David Moyes - Maybe Big Sam - Nope Gary Rowett - Maybe Chris Houghton - Yes Martyn o'neill - No thanks Nigel Atkins - Mmmmmmm Gary Monk - HaHaHaHaHaHaHa Steve Cotteral - Nope Karanka - Yes Gary Rowett shamelessly through his cap in the ring with his comments after the Derby match.
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Post by Floyds on Aug 14, 2019 11:06:19 GMT 1
It's hardly the most attractive of jobs for anyone's CV.
Probably paid a pittance (comparatively), no money to spend and with a squad that's not won a game since February.
Can't imagine Hughton even entertaining the idea.
All a bit of a mess.
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Post by captainblack on Aug 14, 2019 11:06:41 GMT 1
what i wil say is as i said last night istill support jan and he handled his press conference with honesty and integretry.His coment of expectation was spot on and although i support PH he has as many questions to answer as jan if not more not about the take over particular but about leadership and prancing up and down the touch line likea show pony i..mressed no one.I Have no doubt he wants the best for the club and wewill see howthings develop.I do defend the club but that will.not stop me being constructive in critism when required.The article by Steven Chicken is a real assesment of where we are in todays examiner and jan should be supported/ we will see. ps i hope everyone gets behind the team on friday because it will be a difficult game and put there frustrations although understandable to one side I will be getting behind Jan and the team on Friday and genuinely hope we will get a result Positive, I personally am not wanting Jan to be sacked, however if we have another poor performance or worse a drubbing I honestly believe Jan could be gone on Monday morning. I am not going to start laying the blame at anybody , I do not know what goes on behind the scenes , but it is starting to look like there are serious problems on the "Town front"at present. I really do not want us to be in this mire at the present time ,so early on in the season, but clearly things have to change drastically and quickly.
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Post by Kenny irons on Aug 14, 2019 11:08:14 GMT 1
Quite a few fans ive spoken to have said they won't be back until siewart is gone.
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Post by captainblack on Aug 14, 2019 11:10:58 GMT 1
Why only 2 subs? Why not start Mounie and VLP, neither are first teamers or even in matchbday squads. Why blame the players lack of fight. I have seen us relegated to every division, seen us go bust etc. I have never called for a manager to be sacked (even Wadsworth). I don't think 1 win (if we can get it) will give us confidence. I think a new manager is the best hope to give us some confidence. I'd stick by Jan if there were any signs he had a clue, but there aren't. We got a point in our last away game, you don't get a point away at QPR without a clue. I will still give him the ten LEAGUE games. I agree with you on the ten games Coddington , the million dollar question is ,is Jan going to last ten games, my opinion is unfortunately no!
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 14, 2019 11:11:42 GMT 1
Who do we want in Mark Hughes - No Thanks David Moyes - Maybe Big Sam - Nope Gary Rowett - Maybe Chris Houghton - Yes Martyn o'neill - No thanks Nigel Atkins - Mmmmmmm Gary Monk - HaHaHaHaHaHaHa Steve Cotteral - Nope Karanka - Yes There are others who could do a reasonable job, but why would they when as other people have suggested they would not be backed? Hell even Lee Clark could do a better job than our current manager. I now feel quite depressed having had to type that. Lee Bowyer, Alex Neil, Nigel Clough, Grant Macann, amongst others
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 11:13:54 GMT 1
We got a point in our last away game, you don't get a point away at QPR without a clue. I will still give him the ten LEAGUE games. I agree with you on the ten games Coddington , the million dollar question is ,is Jan going to last ten games, my opinion is unfortunately no! I tend to agree...Fan revolt generally wins through. As I said before, careful what we wish for.
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Post by captainblack on Aug 14, 2019 11:23:08 GMT 1
I agree with you on the ten games Coddington , the million dollar question is ,is Jan going to last ten games, my opinion is unfortunately no! I tend to agree...Fan revolt generally wins through. As I said before, careful what we wish for. Very wise words , how would the forum react if we replaced Jan and the situation became even worse , its not a pleasant thought,
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Post by yorkie1 on Aug 14, 2019 11:28:12 GMT 1
A change brings with it doubt but not to change gives us certainty. Certainty that nothing will change and this man is the football equivalent of a village idiot.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Aug 14, 2019 11:30:05 GMT 1
It's hardly the most attractive of jobs for anyone's CV. Probably paid a pittance (comparatively), no money to spend and with a squad that's not won a game since February. Can't imagine Hughton even entertaining the idea. All a bit of a mess. An underachieving squad with enough quality to at least push for the playoffs. Two more years of parachute payments and probably some funds to invest now Billing and Zanka have gone. Someone probably wouldn’t drop down to us but I’m sure many up and coming managers will jump at the chance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 11:32:17 GMT 1
Why only 2 subs? Why not start Mounie and VLP, neither are first teamers or even in matchbday squads. Why blame the players lack of fight. I have seen us relegated to every division, seen us go bust etc. I have never called for a manager to be sacked (even Wadsworth). I don't think 1 win (if we can get it) will give us confidence. I think a new manager is the best hope to give us some confidence. I'd stick by Jan if there were any signs he had a clue, but there aren't. We got a point in our last away game, you don't get a point away at QPR without a clue. I will still give him the ten LEAGUE games. We did, however this team could get points in a fair few league games, without a manager, they are a talented bunch. The problem is we got a point, we should have got 3 had he not gone super negative and played football against them. A manager with a clue would have won that game, we should in all fairness have lost it when he switched tactics after going 1 up.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 14, 2019 11:33:14 GMT 1
The main strength of Siewerts first choice team is made up of "SERIOUSLY FAILED " players of last season like Mbenza ,Flo, and Bacuna .
These players were never Premier league quality or even top six championship quiality players ,and would like to ask the person who signed them as to what they saw to make them think they could make it at the highest level of british football
Sadly the waste of money on a lage number of crap players is just one reason why there is little or no cash in the present transfer pot , and this bad business under Hoyle and Wagner seems now to be holding the club back due to pre spent funds coming into the club like parachute payments
Sadly the present strength and depth of the club to replace players showing poor form, injuries and suspensions is the cheap and cheerfull shite that was on the field v Lincoln
Mounie and Mbenza must rank as some of the the biggest waste of money ever seen in the premier leage history , and ranks amongs many players where there is no way the club will get back anywhere near "WHAT THEY PAID FOR THEM "
I cannot see why Mooy wasnt sold as a poor season at Brighton could also see his price drop ,and surely a presend value of around £!0 to £15 million transfer cash would have gone a long way to strengthening todays weak squad.
Mooy will never play for Huddersfield Town again especially as this present lot under Siewert will struggle to stay in the championship.
Whos idea was it to bring Siewert under the Hoyle /Wagner era ,and what was on his cv for them to make make such an important decision especially knowing that both would soon be departing the club
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Post by Floyds on Aug 14, 2019 11:37:47 GMT 1
It's hardly the most attractive of jobs for anyone's CV. Probably paid a pittance (comparatively), no money to spend and with a squad that's not won a game since February. Can't imagine Hughton even entertaining the idea. All a bit of a mess. An underachieving squad with enough quality to at least push for the playoffs. Two more years of parachute payments and probably some funds to invest now Billing and Zanka have gone. Someone probably wouldn’t drop down to us but I’m sure many up and coming managers will jump at the chance. Guess it depends on the level of funding promised to any new guy. If we're expecting to spend less than £1m in the next window(s) and sell off our "better" players then it's not that attractive to anyone. Maybe another young, unproven lad may take it but once bitten, twice shy. The squad is obviously underachieving and a new manager would need to organise/motivate them to stay up. I wouldn't say we have the quality to get anywhere near the playoffs, though, even with Pep in charge.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 11:38:37 GMT 1
The main strength of Siewerts first choice team is made up of "SERIOUSLY FAILED " players of last season like Mbenza ,Flo, and Bacuna . These players were never Premier league quality or even top six championship quiality players ,and would like to ask the person who signed them as to what they saw to make them think they could make it at the highest level of british football Sadly the waste of money on crap players is just one reason why there is little or no cash in the present transfer pot , and this bad business under Hoyle and Wagner seems now to be holding the club back Sadly the present strength and depth of the club to replace players showing poor form, injuries and suspensions is the cheap and cheerfull shite that was on the field v Lincoln Mounie and Mbenza must rank as some of the the biggest waste of money ever seen in the premier leage history , and ranks amongs many players where there is no way the club will get back anywhere near "WHAT THEY PAID FOR THEM " I cannot see why Mooy wasnt sold as a poor season at Brighton could also see his price drop ,and surely a presend value of around £!0 to £15 million transfer cash would have gone a long way to strengthening todays weak squad. Mooy will never play for Huddersfield Town again especially as this present lot under Siewert will struggle to stay in the championship. Whos idea was it to bring Siewert under the Hoyle /Wagner era ,and what was on his cv for them to make make such an important decision especially knowing that both would soon be departing the club Bacuna? I can’t agree with you there at all
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Post by terrier70 on Aug 14, 2019 11:39:01 GMT 1
The main strength of Siewerts first choice team is made up of "SERIOUSLY FAILED " players of last season like Mbenza ,Flo, and Bacuna . These players were never Premier league quality or even top six championship quiality players ,and would like to ask the person who signed them as to what they saw to make them think they could make it at the highest level of british football Sadly the waste of money on crap players is just one reason why there is little or no cash in the present transfer pot , and this bad business under Hoyle and Wagner seems now to be holding the club back Sadly the present strength and depth of the club to replace players showing poor form, injuries and suspensions is the cheap and cheerfull shite that was on the field v Lincoln Mounie and Mbenza must rank as some of the the biggest waste of money ever seen in the premier leage history , and ranks amongs many players where there is no way the club will get back anywhere near "WHAT THEY PAID FOR THEM " I cannot see why Mooy wasnt sold as a poor season at Brighton could also see his price drop ,and surely a presend value of around £!0 to £15 million transfer cash would have gone a long way to strengthening todays weak squad.Mooy will never play for Huddersfield Town again especially as this present lot under Siewert will struggle to stay in the championship. Whos idea was it to bring Siewert under the Hoyle /Wagner era ,and what was on his cv for them to make make such an important decision especially knowing that both would soon be departing the club Let's just say Mooy had been sold for £15 million, how much of that money do you think would have been made available for transfers? Not very much of it is my guess!
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Post by terrier70 on Aug 14, 2019 11:42:34 GMT 1
I tend to agree...Fan revolt generally wins through. As I said before, careful what we wish for. Very wise words , how would the forum react if we replaced Jan and the situation became even worse , its not a pleasant thought, So we don't win any of the next 18 games with a new man at the helm?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 11:43:04 GMT 1
A change brings with it doubt but not to change gives us certainty. Certainty that nothing will change and this man is the football equivalent of a village idiot. This like most forums has its share of village idiots.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Aug 14, 2019 11:43:42 GMT 1
Why only 2 subs? Why not start Mounie and VLP, neither are first teamers or even in matchbday squads. Why blame the players lack of fight. I have seen us relegated to every division, seen us go bust etc. I have never called for a manager to be sacked (even Wadsworth). I don't think 1 win (if we can get it) will give us confidence. I think a new manager is the best hope to give us some confidence. I'd stick by Jan if there were any signs he had a clue, but there aren't. We got a point in our last away game, you don't get a point away at QPR without a clue. I will still give him the ten LEAGUE games. mmm not sure about that, we were not good. Fortunately QPR were, for some weird reason, worse
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Post by Ibiza Town on Aug 14, 2019 11:46:05 GMT 1
I tend to agree...Fan revolt generally wins through. As I said before, careful what we wish for. Very wise words , how would the forum react if we replaced Jan and the situation became even worse , its not a pleasant thought, Im not sure it can get worse. When players like Hogg and Schindler are looking around totally confused as to whats happening, things are bad If Jan stays, I can only see the better players wanting out. That would be worse
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 11:48:03 GMT 1
He needs to go, we're going to lose on Friday if he's still in charge and the atmosphere will be one of the most toxic i've seen at the JSS. He doesn't need that and neither do we. Just get it done. Toxit only by the few and again over reacting. every one is dissapointed about last night but im sure the team will be different friday! you are correct in tat no one wants a bad atmos phere so lets get on with the season
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Post by In sooth- - on Aug 14, 2019 11:49:24 GMT 1
Very good point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 11:50:27 GMT 1
Who do we want in Mark Hughes - No Thanks David Moyes - Maybe Big Sam - Nope Gary Rowett - Maybe Chris Houghton - Yes Martyn o'neill - No thanks Nigel Atkins - Mmmmmmm Gary Monk - HaHaHaHaHaHaHa Steve Cotteral - Nope Karanka - Yes As long as people learn to start spelling Hughton's name right then he would be number 1 choice (although not sure he would come) Moyes could be a good shout too We need an experienced manager i think if/when Jan gets the boot. Probably too early for Hudson/Whitehead. get in the real world
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Aug 14, 2019 11:55:44 GMT 1
He needs to go, we're going to lose on Friday if he's still in charge and the atmosphere will be one of the most toxic i've seen at the JSS. He doesn't need that and neither do we. Just get it done. Toxit only by the few and again over reacting. every one is dissapointed about last night but im sure the team will be different friday! you are correct in tat no one wants a bad atmos phere so lets get on with the season He has lost the fans trust, it's not a matter of if but when
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Post by Uddersfield on Aug 14, 2019 11:55:53 GMT 1
He needs to go, we're going to lose on Friday if he's still in charge and the atmosphere will be one of the most toxic i've seen at the JSS. He doesn't need that and neither do we. Just get it done. Toxit only by the few and again over reacting. every one is dissapointed about last night but im sure the team will be different friday! you are correct in tat no one wants a bad atmos phere so lets get on with the season Yeah definitely, everyone wants a win in the end. But I think it will be a fair more than a 'few' who will be letting their feelings heard if the performance is not up to scratch again
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Post by Mastercracker on Aug 14, 2019 11:57:31 GMT 1
He needs to go, we're going to lose on Friday if he's still in charge and the atmosphere will be one of the most toxic i've seen at the JSS. He doesn't need that and neither do we. Just get it done. Toxit only by the few and again over reacting. every one is dissapointed about last night but im sure the team will be different friday! you are correct in tat no one wants a bad atmos phere so lets get on with the season The team might be different but its not a stretch to imagine the performance being exactly the same given they were exactly the same v Derby and QPR. Thats the worry. We completely lack a style and identity, after an 8 month pre-season. Lincoln didnt smash and grab, they were genuinely the better side. As were Derby, as were QPR.
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Post by terrier70 on Aug 14, 2019 11:58:31 GMT 1
He needs to go, we're going to lose on Friday if he's still in charge and the atmosphere will be one of the most toxic i've seen at the JSS. He doesn't need that and neither do we. Just get it done. Toxit only by the few and again over reacting. every one is dissapointed about last night but im sure the team will be different friday! you are correct in tat no one wants a bad atmos phere so lets get on with the season Most fans started this season feeling confident we would do well, we have played 3 games and not won one or indeed scored a goal from open play. We were soundly beaten last night by a team in League one who were in League two last season! Most fans were prepared to give Jan some slack given last season, however, nothing has changed over the summer, nothing! Agree we do not want bad atmosphere's but Jan has to go! Leave it a few more games some will say, but why? So we can get even lower in the table, so that other managerial possibilities maybe get themselves fixed up with other clubs? There has to be a change and the sooner it happens the better How is one win in 18 games and poor performances on the pitch over reacting?
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