Sack Him Now

[yorkie1]

It has been suggested that JS has had little to work with and that may be a saving grace. What on earth would lead someone to suspect he would do any better had he been allowed to spend. He has plenty of talent and cannot seem to get them playing when we can all see they lack motivation. Go now Jan, do the decent thing.

[Wagner Uber Alles]

Aug 14, 2019 8:10:17 GMT 1 Nickhudds.UTT said:

Aug 14, 2019 7:53:51 GMT 1 drfootball said:

Only just listened to the post match interview and like a previous poster (think was Chips) I feel almost sorry for him , Oggy got into his ribs a bit but JS sounds shell shocked. Clearly frustrated that he’s been given so little funding. Still think he should go but in truth feel he’s only part of the reason we struggling.

I agree, im so angry but the bloke Seems Bewildered, like a rabbit in headlights !

Dean got lucky with Wagner. Time and again we’re seeing poor appointments and decisions on and off the field. Like Webber said, the whole set up is League 1 mentality...or is it really League 2?

[space hardware]

Aug 14, 2019 8:33:11 GMT 1 Wagner Uber Alles said:

Aug 14, 2019 8:10:17 GMT 1 Nickhudds.UTT said:

I agree, im so angry but the bloke Seems Bewildered, like a rabbit in headlights !

Dean got lucky with Wagner. Time and again we’re seeing poor appointments and decisions on and off the field. Like Webber said, the whole set up is League 1 mentality...or is it really League 2?

We've got a non-League owner now 😁

[dumbo]

You give 7 debuts and play a team with an average age under 23.

You leave senior pros that need games on the bench.

You don't make any changes until 70 minutes and only make 2 subs.

Then you come out after the match and complain about lack of fight and how poor the performance was.

I expected to lose to Lincoln and I'm not very disappointed we did. But the lack of awareness and visible plan from Jan is worrying.

He might as well have Fulham, its only a few days away, but I have given up on Jan completely.

[Deleted]

Aug 14, 2019 8:33:11 GMT 1 Wagner Uber Alles said:

Aug 14, 2019 8:10:17 GMT 1 Nickhudds.UTT said:

I agree, im so angry but the bloke Seems Bewildered, like a rabbit in headlights !

Dean got lucky with Wagner. Time and again we’re seeing poor appointments and decisions on and off the field. Like Webber said, the whole set up is League 1 mentality...or is it really League 2?

Dean Hoyle has always run his business on the cheap. Great formula for the product at Card Factory, but minimal investment in people and that continued at Town.

[huddshroom]

Feel sorry for Jan, played a weak team as we are playing Fulham on Friday, if he'd of played more first teamers and they were knackered on Friday he'd be getting the blame, even if we won last night. The whole team lacks confidence, one win could change all that.

The booing him off was an absolute disgrace, not going to help any situation, if anything makes it worse, all happy and clappy when it's going well, I fear too many fans have only come and seen the good times of late.

[drumriggend]

Aug 14, 2019 8:58:02 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

Feel sorry for Jan, played a weak team as we are playing Fulham on Friday, if he'd of played more first teamers and they were knackered on Friday he'd be getting the blame, even if we won last night. The whole team lacks confidence, one win could change all that.

The booing him off was an absolute disgrace, not going to help any situation, if anything makes it worse, all happy and clappy when it's going well, I fear too many fans have only come and seen the good times of late.

Bollox..
The man has got a scooby..
Has to go..
Now!!

[Uddersfield]

He needs to go, we're going to lose on Friday if he's still in charge and the atmosphere will be one of the most toxic i've seen at the JSS. He doesn't need that and neither do we. Just get it done.

[dumbo]

Aug 14, 2019 8:58:02 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

Feel sorry for Jan, played a weak team as we are playing Fulham on Friday, if he'd of played more first teamers and they were knackered on Friday he'd be getting the blame, even if we won last night. The whole team lacks confidence, one win could change all that.

The booing him off was an absolute disgrace, not going to help any situation, if anything makes it worse, all happy and clappy when it's going well, I fear too many fans have only come and seen the good times of late.

Why only 2 subs? Why not start Mounie and VLP, neither are first teamers or even in matchbday squads. Why blame the players lack of fight.

I have seen us relegated to every division, seen us go bust etc.

I have never called for a manager to be sacked (even Wadsworth).

I don't think 1 win (if we can get it) will give us confidence. I think a new manager is the best hope to give us some confidence. I'd stick by Jan if there were any signs he had a clue, but there aren't.

[Farsley Terrier (UK product)]

Aug 14, 2019 8:58:02 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

Feel sorry for Jan, played a weak team as we are playing Fulham on Friday, if he'd of played more first teamers and they were knackered on Friday he'd be getting the blame, even if we won last night. The whole team lacks confidence, one win could change all that.

The booing him off was an absolute disgrace, not going to help any situation, if anything makes it worse, all happy and clappy when it's going well, I fear too many fans have only come and seen the good times of late.

I disagree strongly.

Many of us have seen bad things happen at the club over decades and have realised that something bad is happening right now.  We have put up with all kinds of shite over the years and are pissed off at what appears to be happening again right in front of our eyes.  Fans have the right to boo.  The Manager is clueless.  We know what we see with our own eyes and to suggest we don't as you have done is totally wrong.  Why should we keep quiet?  Should we be nice little sheep and conform?

[yorik]

Hodgkinson and siewart couldn't run a whelk stall. The laurel and hardy of football and laurel and hardy were funny these two aren't. 18000 season ticket holders sold a pup. The days of the 70s before mick Buxton the are on there way back. After Fulham game is a on sky we heading for being a laughing stock.

[yorik]

Feck predicted text. Both should go now.

[Stiggy]

Aug 14, 2019 8:58:02 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

Feel sorry for Jan, played a weak team as we are playing Fulham on Friday, if he'd of played more first teamers and they were knackered on Friday he'd be getting the blame, even if we won last night. The whole team lacks confidence, one win could change all that.

The booing him off was an absolute disgrace, not going to help any situation, if anything makes it worse, all happy and clappy when it's going well, I fear too many fans have only come and seen the good times of late.

Sorry mate but you're talking bollocks. The mans clueless and way out of his depth.

[showaddywaddywaddy]

Aug 14, 2019 8:58:02 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

Feel sorry for Jan, played a weak team as we are playing Fulham on Friday, if he'd of played more first teamers and they were knackered on Friday he'd be getting the blame, even if we won last night. The whole team lacks confidence, one win could change all that.

The booing him off was an absolute disgrace, not going to help any situation, if anything makes it worse, all happy and clappy when it's going well, I fear too many fans have only come and seen the good times of late.

Been supporting since 1981. Many happy memories..even of the hard times..but I feel quite entitled to say please go Jan and Colin. Please find another job Julian. Phil please buy yourself a new subbuteo team with your own pocket money. Terrier identity ? Never felt more out of touch with Huddersfield Town.

[Farsley Terrier (UK product)]

He makes Supermac look like Pep Guardiola in comparison.

[acky]

Aug 14, 2019 9:11:00 GMT 1 yorik said:

Hodgkinson and siewart couldn't run a whelk stall. The laurel and hardy of football and laurel and hardy were funny these two aren't. 18000 season ticket holders sold a pup. The days of the 70s before mick Buxton the are on there way back. After Fulham game is a on sky we heading for being a laughing stock.

[In sooth- -]

Those were the days my friends. A chief coach who was articulate and was determined for Town to have an identification.Add a player like Heff who got the fans going. Seem like years ago but in the history of Town a mere few minutes and the next one or two seasons will feel like a lifetime.

Something is wrong at the core in the Club. Who can stop this slide. Other Clubs have been through this situation before.

On the other hand a good win like the last one against Wolves might just getting us going .

[acky]

Laughing stock = Laughing gravy= Laurel And Hardys dog which was a terrier!!

[Farsley Terrier (UK product)]

[Up the Duff.]

Aug 14, 2019 8:58:02 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

Feel sorry for Jan, played a weak team as we are playing Fulham on Friday, if he'd of played more first teamers and they were knackered on Friday he'd be getting the blame, even if we won last night. The whole team lacks confidence, one win could change all that.

The booing him off was an absolute disgrace, not going to help any situation, if anything makes it worse, all happy and clappy when it's going well, I fear too many fans have only come and seen the good times of late.

Let’s not forget Lincoln made 5 changes and they are in league1. There is no excuse for that performance.

[4 head]

I really like Jan and think it was clear how disappointed he was after the game. I think all this name calling and personal abuse is pretty poor from a lot of fans and regardless of how frustrated you are you have to recognise that Jan is simply a human being like any of us, trying to do his best under difficult circumstances.

There seems to be a lot of baggage from last season, no real improvements to the squad, still a few bad characters around and high expectations from the fans (top 6).

What we have seen on the pitch hasn't been encouraging so far and Jan does have to take some of the flack for that as ultimately it is down to either:

1. his tactics

or

2. his ability to convey these to the players in an effective way

I still think a lot of these lads are mentally broken from last season and have lost a lot of their confidence. For this reason it was always going to be difficult to bring them up to the levels we expect, but ultimately this is the managers job.

Winning will build confidence, and I hope in the next couple of matches we can play well and get some more points on the board. Next two games are against good sides and ultimately I think we need to at least support Jan and the team through the next few games. Booing, while understandable given the performance last night, will only make things worse among the players, coaching staff, board of directors etc. Especially when there is a crisis of confidence at the club currently.

[Deleted]

Aug 14, 2019 8:58:02 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

Feel sorry for Jan, played a weak team as we are playing Fulham on Friday, if he'd of played more first teamers and they were knackered on Friday he'd be getting the blame, even if we won last night. The whole team lacks confidence, one win could change all that.

The booing him off was an absolute disgrace, not going to help any situation, if anything makes it worse, all happy and clappy when it's going well, I fear too many fans have only come and seen the good times of late.

what i wil say is as i said last night istill support jan and he handled his press conference with honesty and integretry.His coment of expectation was spot on and although i support PH he has as many questions to answer as jan if not more not about the take over particular but about leadership and prancing up and down the touch line likea show pony i..mressed no one.I Have no doubt he wants the best for the club and wewill see howthings develop.I do defend the club but that will.not stop me being constructive in critism when required.The article by Steven Chicken is a real assesment of where we are in todays examiner and jan should be supported/ we will see.

[Deleted]

Aug 14, 2019 10:12:20 GMT 1 @positive said:

Aug 14, 2019 8:58:02 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

Feel sorry for Jan, played a weak team as we are playing Fulham on Friday, if he'd of played more first teamers and they were knackered on Friday he'd be getting the blame, even if we won last night. The whole team lacks confidence, one win could change all that.

The booing him off was an absolute disgrace, not going to help any situation, if anything makes it worse, all happy and clappy when it's going well, I fear too many fans have only come and seen the good times of late.

what i wil say is as i said last night istill support jan and he handled his press conference with honesty and integretry.His coment of expectation was spot on and although i support PH he has as many questions to answer as jan if not more not about the take over particular but about leadership and prancing up and down the touch line likea show pony i..mressed no one.I Have no doubt he wants the best for the club and wewill see howthings develop.I do defend the club but that will.not stop me being constructive in critism when required.The article by Steven Chicken is a real assesment of where we are in todays examiner and jan should be supported/ we will see.

ps i hope everyone gets behind the team on friday because it will be a difficult game and put there frustrations although understandable to one side

[huddshroom]

From a few replies to me think I phrased my comment a little wrong, I'm not defending that last night wasn't bad, but there were some young players that actually had a good game, Schofield and Edmonds-Green stood out, didn't deserve the boo at full time.

I do think Jan is out of his depth but while he is the manager what's the point in booing him, will only make it worse, he's not a bad guy and doesn't deserve to be abused(and there was some really nasty shit getting shouted at him last night), regardless what you think about his managerial skills.

[Uddersfield]

Aug 14, 2019 10:33:46 GMT 1 @positive said:

Aug 14, 2019 10:12:20 GMT 1 @positive said:

what i wil say is as i said last night istill support jan and he handled his press conference with honesty and integretry.His coment of expectation was spot on and although i support PH he has as many questions to answer as jan if not more not about the take over particular but about leadership and prancing up and down the touch line likea show pony i..mressed no one.I Have no doubt he wants the best for the club and wewill see howthings develop.I do defend the club but that will.not stop me being constructive in critism when required.The article by Steven Chicken is a real assesment of where we are in todays examiner and jan should be supported/ we will see.

ps i hope everyone gets behind the team on friday because it will be a difficult game and put there frustrations although understandable to one side

That's not going to happen though unfortunately if he's still here. The crowd will be straight on his back if we are playing badly or concede early. If Hudson is in charge then it may ease the toxicity with the fans. Either that or everyone will start turning their attention to the board as we love a good moan!  

[salendiner]

I thought personally the atmosphere at the end last night was mild when you consider what the fans have had to put up with over the last 18 months. The fans have being unbelievably patient. I agree that Siewert was on a hiding to nothing last season, but he has had a summer with the squad and we have seen zero change in results, goals scored and performance in a decent league but ultimately at a lower level. Unfortunately he is out of his depth and needs to go. It’s simple if we persist with this manager you can forget stabilising in this league, it’s a relegation

[showaddywaddywaddy]

Aug 14, 2019 10:40:46 GMT 1 Uddersfield said:

Aug 14, 2019 10:33:46 GMT 1 @positive said:

ps i hope everyone gets behind the team on friday because it will be a difficult game and put there frustrations although understandable to one side

That's not going to happen though unfortunately if he's still here. The crowd will be straight on his back if we are playing badly or concede early. If Hudson is in charge then it may ease the toxicity with the fans. Either that or everyone will start turning their attention to the board as we love a good moan!  

It should be at the board in any case. Shambolic.

[willo]

Aug 14, 2019 10:33:46 GMT 1 @positive said:

Aug 14, 2019 10:12:20 GMT 1 @positive said:

what i wil say is as i said last night istill support jan and he handled his press conference with honesty and integretry.His coment of expectation was spot on and although i support PH he has as many questions to answer as jan if not more not about the take over particular but about leadership and prancing up and down the touch line likea show pony i..mressed no one.I Have no doubt he wants the best for the club and wewill see howthings develop.I do defend the club but that will.not stop me being constructive in critism when required.The article by Steven Chicken is a real assesment of where we are in todays examiner and jan should be supported/ we will see.

ps i hope everyone gets behind the team on friday because it will be a difficult game and put there frustrations although understandable to one side

Surely will be “last chance saloon” for Jan on Friday positive should we not win but more importantly, not play with some spirit and show some tactical know-how. Interestingly, there’ll be another young manager on the opposite bench. Be good for comparison to see how Fulham do also.

[Farsley Terrier (UK product)]

Aug 14, 2019 10:38:34 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

From a few replies to me think I phrased my comment a little wrong, I'm not defending that last night wasn't bad, but there were some young players that actually had a good game, Schofield and Edmonds-Green stood out, didn't deserve the boo at full time.

I do think Jan is out of his depth but while he is the manager what's the point in booing him, will only make it worse, he's not a bad guy and doesn't deserve to be abused(and there was some really nasty shit getting shouted at him last night), regardless what you think about his managerial skills.

I must admit I like the guy but managers rise and fall by results on the pitch and the guy has been a disaster.  He's seriously out of his depth.  Booing does not only refect on the manager but on the whole situation at the moment.  Jan is rightly frustrated because who wouldn't be? It's easy for us all to think we could do the job but when actually in a position to do so find ourselves hopelessly out of our depth.  I would actually applaud the man if he actually came out and said he was.  

[cat57]

Who do we want in
Mark Hughes - No Thanks
David Moyes - Maybe
Big Sam - Nope
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Chris Houghton - Yes
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Steve Cotteral - Nope
Karanka - Yes