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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 15, 2019 22:43:23 GMT 1
Are the top brass worried what the media will say if we sack a manager early doors and would therefore feel more comfortable doing it tomorrow if we lose so they can say we've lost the first 3 home games, no sign of improvement blah blah blah
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 16, 2019 7:34:18 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 8:01:49 GMT 1
A typical post from you on there.
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Post by space hardware on Aug 16, 2019 8:17:18 GMT 1
It might just be me but I find blogs like that incredibly tedious.
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Post by royrace on Aug 16, 2019 8:23:18 GMT 1
Are the top brass worried what the media will say if we sack a manager early doors and would therefore feel more comfortable doing it tomorrow if we lose so they can say we've lost the first 3 home games, no sign of improvement blah blah blah Maybe they want him to walk, cheaper option. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 16, 2019 8:25:40 GMT 1
It might just be me but I find blogs like that incredibly tedious. Is Otium. Terrier spirit ?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 16, 2019 8:30:11 GMT 1
It might just be me but I find blogs like that incredibly tedious. Is Otium. Terrier spirit ? Stop linking that shitrag. That guy is on a par with Blake Welton
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Post by otterman on Aug 16, 2019 9:09:41 GMT 1
I felt extremely sorry for Jan watching the press conference. Any human being under this much pressure is not in a good place and it shows. The latter half of last season would have destroyed the most battle hardened manager and the path was set before he was appointed. I don’t believe he could have changed that very much. If tightwad Phil has any humanity in him, he should reach a gentleman’s agreement fo pay Jan off with zero fuss. If he does not I seriously fear for Jan’s sanity.
I realise this post may draw some crass response from some of the knuckle dragging fuckwits on this forum. Frankly I don’t care. It needs to be said. Humanity should win over football every day of the week.
Good luck to everyone for tonight.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 16, 2019 9:45:33 GMT 1
I felt extremely sorry for Jan watching the press conference. Any human being under this much pressure is not in a good place and it shows. The latter half of last season would have destroyed the most battle hardened manager and the path was set before he was appointed. I don’t believe he could have changed that very much.If tightwad Phil has any humanity in him, he should reach a gentleman’s agreement fo pay Jan off with zero fuss. If he does not I seriously fear for Jan’s sanity. I realise this post may draw some crass response from some of the knuckle dragging fuckwits on this forum. Frankly I don’t care. It needs to be said. Humanity should win over football every day of the week. Good luck to everyone for tonight. I think he had a decent situation to deal with from his point of view actually. Everyone knew we were down already so there were almost no expectations or pressure to achieve anything. He had 3 or 4 months to get to know his players, and coach them in how he wanted to play, with little or no urgency to get results. Time to get his backroom staff in place. A lot of managers would love those circumstances when joining a new club. In interviews hes belligerent and is trying to eek out positives where he thinks he can. Pretty much what any manager would do. I don;t see a manager at his wits end or anything like that, like he needs 'rescuing'. He'll have confidence he can get this group of players playing well and winning games, even if, and Im sure hes aware of this, the fans and maybe a lot of the players don;t have the same faith.
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Aug 16, 2019 9:55:54 GMT 1
I also feel sorry for the guy. Having said that none of us know him and what type of character he is and if he turned out to be a nasty bit of work my sympathy would be a lot less. One thing that I've never seen mentioned is what salary he's on. Yes, he may well have an impossible job on his hands but from his point of view if he's on mega money the stress and worry he is going through may well be worth it. I suspect any golden handshake will see him alright for quite a while too.
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Post by otterman on Aug 16, 2019 10:04:10 GMT 1
I also feel sorry for the guy. Having said that none of us know him and what type of character he is and if he turned out to be a nasty bit of work my sympathy would be a lot less. One thing that I've never seen mentioned is what salary he's on. Yes, he may well have an impossible job on his hands but from his point of view if he's on mega money the stress and worry he is going through may well be worth it. I suspect any golden handshake will see him alright for quite a while too. I would seriously doubt he’s on mega money. Knowing an incoming manager would be managing a division lower, the money would be trimmed accordingly. Certainly earning well below the money Wagner was on. He got a £25k a week rise when he kept us up for a second season 😎
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Post by basil on Aug 16, 2019 10:17:18 GMT 1
He is clearly giving his all to the job, and that is not something we can say about some of our recent appointments, so that's a plus.
However, putting the blame for the Lincoln shambles squarely on the youngsters was simply wrong. Worryingly, I think that he believes that this was indeed the case.
Many top sports people lack humility, maybe that's what makes them so good, but Jan isn't there yet.
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Post by Uddersfield on Aug 16, 2019 10:29:54 GMT 1
He is clearly giving his all to the job, and that is not something we can say about some of our recent appointments, so that's a plus. However, putting the blame for the Lincoln shambles squarely on the youngsters was simply wrong. Worryingly, I think that he believes that this was indeed the case. Many top sports people lack humility, maybe that's what makes them so good, but Jan isn't there yet. I remember Neil Warnock saying 'the harder he tried, the worse it got' about Phil Starbuck when he moved, which I feel could be beneficial to Jan to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 10:42:51 GMT 1
I felt extremely sorry for Jan watching the press conference. Any human being under this much pressure is not in a good place and it shows. The latter half of last season would have destroyed the most battle hardened manager and the path was set before he was appointed. I don’t believe he could have changed that very much.If tightwad Phil has any humanity in him, he should reach a gentleman’s agreement fo pay Jan off with zero fuss. If he does not I seriously fear for Jan’s sanity. I realise this post may draw some crass response from some of the knuckle dragging fuckwits on this forum. Frankly I don’t care. It needs to be said. Humanity should win over football every day of the week. Good luck to everyone for tonight. I think he had a decent situation to deal with from his point of view actually. Everyone knew we were down already so there were almost no expectations or pressure to achieve anything. He had 3 or 4 months to get to know his players, and coach them in how he wanted to play, with little or no urgency to get results. Time to get his backroom staff in place. A lot of managers would love those circumstances when joining a new club. In interviews hes belligerent and is trying to eek out positives where he thinks he can. Pretty much what any manager would do. I don;t see a manager at his wits end or anything like that, like he needs 'rescuing'. He'll have confidence he can get this group of players playing well and winning games, even if, and Im sure hes aware of this, the fans and maybe a lot of the players don;t have the same faith. Bang on. The guy isn’t even mediocre but the pay and potential pay off will be more than compensatory for his sacking. He’s not the first guy to be put in a role that’s beyond him and fail and he won’t be the last.
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Post by dalesterrier on Aug 16, 2019 14:41:17 GMT 1
ok guys . bit of a up date last cance saloon must win or out . think wat you like but true In this case there must be someone else lined up you would think
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Post by Wingman on Aug 16, 2019 14:58:51 GMT 1
The humane side of me wanted and wants it to work for Siewert. It isn’t. It could just be wrong man, wrong time, and for that the board must take responsibility for throwing an inexperienced Manager into the situation Jan is in.
They’ll have known the reasons why Wagner wanted to go and really should have left Hudson in control until the Summer.
I do think it’s time for Siewert to go, albeit tonight may push that issue further. Overall he is clearly wanting this to work, he’s putting the effort in but his man-management and game management show his lack of mature player experience.
As another poster has said, he is human, he will be feeling it. Let’s hope whatever happens over the rest of his tenure, he learns and grows as a result.
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Aug 16, 2019 18:17:39 GMT 1
I am really thinking now about whether to venture down Leeds Road to watch Town tonight. I have been to every game this season and only miss home games if I am out of the contry. After the Tuesday night no show I don't know if I can sit and watch us ponce about passing it backwards and sideways getting absolutely nowhere. The deciding factor is going to be the team sheet. If VLP is missing that is it I will simply stay at home. If he is playing then I am going. It says a lot that a manager's incompetence can make me change may mind about watching Town. It has never happened before and that includes manages like the erratic Tom Johnstone, Powell and Wadsworth.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 18:20:30 GMT 1
I am really thinking now about whether to venture down Leeds Road to watch Town tonight. I have been to every game this season and only miss home games if I am out of the contry. After the Tuesday night no show I don't know if I can sit and watch us ponce about passing it backwards and sideways getting absolutely nowhere. The deciding factor is going to be the team sheet. If VLP is missing that is it I will simply stay at home. If he is playing then I am going. It says a lot that a manager's incompetence can make me change may mind about watching Town. It has never happened before and that includes manages like the erratic Tom Johnstone, Powell and Wadsworth. supporter?
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Post by greyarea on Aug 16, 2019 18:22:31 GMT 1
I am really thinking now about whether to venture down Leeds Road to watch Town tonight. I have been to every game this season and only miss home games if I am out of the contry. After the Tuesday night no show I don't know if I can sit and watch us ponce about passing it backwards and sideways getting absolutely nowhere. The deciding factor is going to be the team sheet. If VLP is missing that is it I will simply stay at home. If he is playing then I am going. It says a lot that a manager's incompetence can make me change may mind about watching Town. It has never happened before and that includes manages like the erratic Tom Johnstone, Powell and Wadsworth. I was also down Tuesday. The thing is Huddersfield weren't passing backwards and sidewards. They just weren't able to pass at all. Partly because Jan only wants forward passes. If the passing channel is closed the passing falls apart. Ill still be down there tonight hoping for a good performance.
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Aug 16, 2019 21:34:50 GMT 1
Feel sorry for the hand he's been dealt and the board screwing him over but he needs to go now. There's been absolutely no change since he took over and it's been a complete waste of the 6 month pre-season he effectively had.
We could have appointed a cardboard cutout and it'd have been the same effect for a lot cheaper.
He needs to go for his own sake and ours, a fresh start is needed with a manager that might get the team fired up and actually playing as some sort of team.
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Post by ruggedivy on Aug 16, 2019 21:37:54 GMT 1
Get rid.. Not the right man for the job! End this farce now.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 16, 2019 21:44:28 GMT 1
I would not pay to watch that shite infact i would not want to watch them for free under that useless wanker of a manager.
Get rid before we are relegated and the ground becomes empty
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 16, 2019 21:47:50 GMT 1
The humane side of me wanted and wants it to work for Siewert. It isn’t. It could just be wrong man, wrong time, and for that the board must take responsibility for throwing an inexperienced Manager into the situation Jan is in. They’ll have known the reasons why Wagner wanted to go and really should have left Hudson in control until the Summer. I do think it’s time for Siewert to go, albeit tonight may push that issue further. Overall he is clearly wanting this to work, he’s putting the effort in but his man-management and game management show his lack of mature player experience. As another poster has said, he is human, he will be feeling it. Let’s hope whatever happens over the rest of his tenure, he learns and grows as a result. Hudson doesn't have the qualifications to be allowed to manage in the PL. How many times does this need saying before some people actually believe it? Here it is. In black & white: www.inbrief.co.uk/football-law/coaching-qualifications/
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Post by tonytiler on Aug 16, 2019 21:48:04 GMT 1
Sack the manager,yes defo but a few players need to follow him out the door before its too late if not already.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 16, 2019 21:48:25 GMT 1
Feel sorry for the hand he's been dealt and the board screwing him over but he needs to go now. There's been absolutely no change since he took over and it's been a complete waste of the 6 month pre-season he effectively had. We could have appointed a cardboard cutout and it'd have been the same effect for a lot cheaper. He needs to go for his own sake and ours, a fresh start is needed with a manager that might get the team fired up and actually playing as some sort of team. Cardboard cutout is not far from the truth. Personally I think we could have played without a manager and the players could have done a better job of organising themselves.
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Post by yorkie1 on Aug 16, 2019 21:50:43 GMT 1
He has to go. He should have gone already. His tactic cvs and subs showed the man is a clown and will never be a manager. Imposter. Get rid please.
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Post by Pork Soda on Aug 16, 2019 21:53:51 GMT 1
Hated this twat from day one. Needs to go now. Before it's too late.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 21:55:33 GMT 1
He’s so out of his depth it’s getting embarrassing. Think he’ll go after we lose to Cardiff, rather it was sooner though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 21:58:34 GMT 1
Fulham had 65% possession in the game and 17 attempts at goal to our 6. Were we playing at home or away!? 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 21:59:35 GMT 1
Seems an alright chap but it’s not working. I fear he’s a useful human shield for the board at present though so he’ll be kept on. I expect a change after the Euro transfer window shuts...then whoever is in the squad will be available for selection. I really don’t think they are at present.
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