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Post by captainblack on Aug 12, 2019 11:16:07 GMT 1
I will answer as honestly as I can. I don’t judge him on last season. He was given a disillusioned team with a negative, losing mentality. He was on a hiding to nothing. Not to mention following in the footsteps of one of the best managers we have ever had. The fans had pretty much lost faith, it was a chore to watch, every week was hard work, not just when he came, way before that. The club was visibly in decline. So my decision is to judge him from this pre season onwards. The board have kicked him in the nuts by giving him pretty much nothing whilst disposing of one of the best midfielders I have seen at the club, along with our midfield player of the year. 2 players gone who influence our game. Both full backs we have consistently played for the last 3 years have gone. Then we have the arseholes like Sabiri allegedly poisoning the dressing room. He not only has the job of pleasing fans, he has the job of psychologically re building a disjointed squad. His stubbornness sticking with the current formation is concerning but given the players at his disposal is not surprising. We were poor for large parts against an average Derby team and were poor for the last 40 minutes at QPR, which is never a walk in the park for any team. I personally would give the lad up to the Luton game and then make a decision dependant on our form/league position. Hence my vote to keep him. Sorry to disagree jj as you are a decent poster but outside of you & one or two others, nobody has any faith in Jan. He may last til the Luton game but will be hanging on by his fingertips if it gets that far. Really can’t call the Lincoln game but if we get beaten by Fulham and played off the park, wouldn’t bet my house on him still being in charge this time next week. The time Jan presided over us last season was a disaster , however I am willing to give Jan a fair crack of the whip , and I would give Jan up to the Millwall game to turn things around , I honestly believe that would be fair and we would all know by then where Jan stood in relation to his future at Huddersfield Town. Some fans wanting to sack Jan after just 2 games in the Championship seems unbelievably harsh in my opinion, Jan could turn things around, and I would hope Town fans would back him for at least the next 7/8 games, just out of fairness to the guy .I hope Jan succeeds at the club ,as at the moment some supporters seem to be willing him to fail ,which i believe will achieve nothing.
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Post by Stiggy on Aug 12, 2019 12:09:17 GMT 1
He needs a chance, I'd give him upto the first international break (Luton game)
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Post by topstuff02 on Aug 12, 2019 12:23:42 GMT 1
End of the day, you should always want to progress. Chris Hughton took over at Brighton when they were heading towards league 1 & got them promoted. Did well at Norwich, Birmingham & Newcastle previously. If town don't take him somebody else in the sh*t will - as we struggle & head towards the trap door to Division 1, his new side will pass us. Got no faith in Jan, Martin from Barnsley would do a better job. Football is ruthless - Phil needs to be ruthless & act now, not in 3-6 months when its too late
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Post by hoppo on Aug 12, 2019 12:47:24 GMT 1
Reminds me of the Wadworth days....at very best Powell or Bobbins......his record is shocking at any level....he needs to go..now...I said the same about Wagner..i said he goes before its too late...he went too late and look what happened...however now I know it would have been this clown anyway it wouldnt have been any better...get him out....no point in succesion planning if by the time everyone is up to speed we are in L2!!!!
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Post by townrwe on Aug 12, 2019 13:08:10 GMT 1
As with the players, the club needs a fresh start with the management. Even Phil has already lost alot of the supporters. It's a massive hole to dig himself out of. I'm presuming he isnt going to sell up after 40 days in charge so he needs to be decisive now.
If he sticks with Jan, and it doesn't work out people will not only question his financial intentions but also his ability to make correct football decisions.
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Post by artysid on Aug 12, 2019 13:16:16 GMT 1
Back in January 1990, just before their game with Forest, I remember my mate a Manchester United fan saying this about their then Manager “Time to get rid, we’ll’ never win owt while this useless twats the Manager”.
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Post by townrwe on Aug 12, 2019 13:20:44 GMT 1
Back in January 1990, just before their game with Forest, I remember my mate a Manchester United fan saying this about their then Manager “Time to get rid, we’ll’ never win owt while this useless twats the Manager”. I bet for every nugget of gold theres a a tonne of shite.
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Post by rastrick32 on Aug 12, 2019 13:30:39 GMT 1
Back in January 1990, just before their game with Forest, I remember my mate a Manchester United fan saying this about their then Manager “Time to get rid, we’ll’ never win owt while this useless twats the Manager”. Cloughie? 😃
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 12, 2019 13:44:43 GMT 1
Jan might well come good. Football management is a bloody funny thing when you look at it. I suppose if he is going to stay as manager then he needs to up his game considerably and soon. The club cannot (and hopefully will not) risk dropping into the lower reaches and risk the decimation to season ticket sales that would result. If it were my business I'd already be looking for a replacement just in case.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Aug 12, 2019 13:52:12 GMT 1
Whats so frustrating is that we wasted the back end of last season when we knew we were relegated. We had all those 'free games' to plan for this season in the championship, but after all that time, we still look totally lost.
We had a good idea of a core of players that we were still going be working with too, so I'm not taking that as an excuse.
Anyone at Loftus Road on Sat could see the most of our team looking at each other not knowing where they were supposed to be and who was supposed to be covering who.
Despite the point won, it looked shambolic to me, and I don't blame the players.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 12, 2019 13:56:09 GMT 1
Whats so frustrating is that we wasted the back end of last season when we knew we were relegated. We had all those 'free games' to plan for this season in the championship, but after all that time, we still look totally lost. We had a good idea of a core of players that we were still going be working with too, so I'm not taking that as an excuse. Anyone at Loftus Road on Sat could see the most of our team looking at each other not knowing where they were supposed to be and who was supposed to be covering who. Despite the point won, it looked shambolic to me, and I don't blame the players. Has Siewert been brought in to make us shite? I think we can see we're better than we were under Wagner going forward, but the players do look like strangers.
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Post by Mastercracker on Aug 12, 2019 14:05:55 GMT 1
Whats so frustrating is that we wasted the back end of last season when we knew we were relegated. We had all those 'free games' to plan for this season in the championship, but after all that time, we still look totally lost. We had a good idea of a core of players that we were still going be working with too, so I'm not taking that as an excuse. Anyone at Loftus Road on Sat could see the most of our team looking at each other not knowing where they were supposed to be and who was supposed to be covering who. Despite the point won, it looked shambolic to me, and I don't blame the players. Has Siewert been brought in to make us shite? I think we can see we're better than we were under Wagner going forward, but the players do look like strangers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 14:10:56 GMT 1
Jan might well come good. Football management is a bloody funny thing when you look at it. I suppose if he is going to stay as manager then he needs to up his game considerably and soon. The club cannot (and hopefully will not) risk dropping into the lower reaches and risk the decimation to season ticket sales that would result. If it were my business I'd already be looking for a replacement just in case. Just the same as with Wagner, if it does end up with 'Siewert out' no doubt we've already got a candidate or candidates in mind. Of course that doesn't guarantee anything.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 15:46:57 GMT 1
Back in January 1990, just before their game with Forest, I remember my mate a Manchester United fan saying this about their then Manager “Time to get rid, we’ll’ never win owt while this useless twats the Manager”. Cloughie? 😃 Guessing he’s on about Fergie. Bad comparison considering Fergie has actually managed a league team, won trophies etc. There is an argument there. This guy brings a Kellogg’s badge to the table
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Post by Town Duppy on Aug 12, 2019 15:51:12 GMT 1
Back in January 1990, just before their game with Forest, I remember my mate a Manchester United fan saying this about their then Manager “Time to get rid, we’ll’ never win owt while this useless twats the Manager”. I bet for every nugget of gold theres a a tonne of shite. I have yet to see a nugget of gold in your posts...…….
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Post by crux on Aug 12, 2019 15:51:51 GMT 1
Guessing he’s on about Fergie. Bad comparison considering Fergie has actually managed a league team, won trophies etc. There is an argument there. This guy brings a Kellogg’s badge to the table .... and I thought he had the full set of coaching badges and been employed by the German FA.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 15:56:47 GMT 1
Guessing he’s on about Fergie. Bad comparison considering Fergie has actually managed a league team, won trophies etc. There is an argument there. This guy brings a Kellogg’s badge to the table .... and I thought he had the full set of coaching badges and been employed by the German FA. Some serious fuckers on here aren’t there. Was but taking the piss and merely having a laugh.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 12, 2019 15:59:11 GMT 1
Back in January 1990, just before their game with Forest, I remember my mate a Manchester United fan saying this about their then Manager “Time to get rid, we’ll’ never win owt while this useless twats the Manager”. Not sure Siewerts previous record in Germany stacks up to Fergies in Scotland 🤔
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 12, 2019 16:02:14 GMT 1
Jan might well come good. Football management is a bloody funny thing when you look at it. I suppose if he is going to stay as manager then he needs to up his game considerably and soon. The club cannot (and hopefully will not) risk dropping into the lower reaches and risk the decimation to season ticket sales that would result. If it were my business I'd already be looking for a replacement just in case. Just the same as with Wagner, if it does end up with 'Siewert out' no doubt we've already got a candidate or candidates in mind. Of course that doesn't guarantee anything. After last season's unmitigated disaster we should certainly be making a plan b for the manager and a shedload of the playing staff. Unfortunately the big sales never looked like materialising so that crapped on that and asking someone else to come in and start wading through that shite would have seriously cut down our options. Still think the time for getting a better chance of the bloke we want is not yet. Still a bit of a fluid 'mess'. The club failed last season and it needs the time and a chance to start getting it right and that can be either done or changes made before it gets 'critical'?
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Post by bluebeard on Aug 12, 2019 16:59:05 GMT 1
Give the man a chance,i would give him until next May and let's see where we are then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 17:05:03 GMT 1
End of the day, you should always want to progress. Chris Hughton took over at Brighton when they were heading towards league 1 & got them promoted. Did well at Norwich, Birmingham & Newcastle previously. If town don't take him somebody else in the sh*t will - as we struggle & head towards the trap door to Division 1, his new side will pass us. Got no faith in Jan, Martin from Barnsley would do a better job. Football is ruthless - Phil needs to be ruthless & act now, not in 3-6 months when its too late Has Martin moved house? Kept that quiet.
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Post by dewsburyborn on Aug 12, 2019 18:23:16 GMT 1
End of the day, you should always want to progress. Chris Hughton took over at Brighton when they were heading towards league 1 & got them promoted. Did well at Norwich, Birmingham & Newcastle previously. If town don't take him somebody else in the sh*t will - as we struggle & head towards the trap door to Division 1, his new side will pass us. Got no faith in Jan, Martin from Barnsley would do a better job. Football is ruthless - Phil needs to be ruthless & act now, not in 3-6 months when its too late With reference to Chris Hughton, interesting piece in today's Torygraph abut BHA - www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/08/12/graham-potters-positive-thinking-paid-instant-dividend-brighton/
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Post by terriertim on Aug 12, 2019 19:08:54 GMT 1
End of the day, you should always want to progress. Chris Hughton took over at Brighton when they were heading towards league 1 & got them promoted. Did well at Norwich, Birmingham & Newcastle previously. If town don't take him somebody else in the sh*t will - as we struggle & head towards the trap door to Division 1, his new side will pass us. Got no faith in Jan, Martin from Barnsley would do a better job. Football is ruthless - Phil needs to be ruthless & act now, not in 3-6 months when its too late With reference to Chris Hughton, interesting piece in today's Torygraph abut BHA - www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/08/12/graham-potters-positive-thinking-paid-instant-dividend-brighton/Trust me if BHA play like that against any of the top 10 sides they will get smashed (Mooy or no Mooy) - Fresh ideas - yes - playing with a bit of spirit - yes but other teams will learn and they will soon find out what it is like to be arseholed 4 5 or 6 nil Brighton are not a good side.....Potter or not.....heads will go down......and they will lose more than they win this season
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Post by griffa on Aug 12, 2019 21:26:03 GMT 1
Give the man a chance,i would give him until next May and let's see where we are then. Great idea, Division 1 looks favourite to me!
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Post by griffa on Aug 12, 2019 21:28:57 GMT 1
Back in January 1990, just before their game with Forest, I remember my mate a Manchester United fan saying this about their then Manager “Time to get rid, we’ll’ never win owt while this useless twats the Manager”. Not sure Siewerts previous record in Germany stacks up to Fergies in Scotland 🤔 What a surprise, Jan hasn't won a Domestic Trophy or European Trophy! Amazing yet he's compared, by some to Fergie!
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 12, 2019 21:38:27 GMT 1
Not sure Siewerts previous record in Germany stacks up to Fergies in Scotland 🤔 What a surprise, Jan hasn't won a Domestic Trophy or European Trophy! Amazing yet he's compared, by some to Fergie! Tbf I thought he was pushing it with that analogy
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Post by dalesterrier on Aug 12, 2019 21:41:36 GMT 1
I would think that if JS is sacked then Mark Hudson is the most likely to take over given the continuity the club want
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 21:55:19 GMT 1
I would think that if JS is sacked then Mark Hudson is the most likely to take over given the continuity the club want He's going to have to hurry up and get his pro licence then. He has one thing in his favour, he's older than Siewert. Sadly as a manager, he's never won a game. Bring back Gerry Murphy.
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Post by willo on Aug 12, 2019 22:14:04 GMT 1
Give the man a chance,i would give him until next May and let's see where we are then. A highly unlikely scenario.
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 13, 2019 0:29:42 GMT 1
Give the man a chance,i would give him until next May and let's see where we are then. Great idea, Division 1 looks favourite to me! When I were a lad Division 1 was the place to be, now it's the place where football luminaries like Fleetwood and Burton reside. It's a funny old game.
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