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Post by geoffhuttsbandylegs on Aug 11, 2019 1:03:02 GMT 1
Colin Bell has a wealth of coaching, tactics, organisational and player management experience, and has dealt with players at all levels getting them playing well above their supposed capabilities. My instincts when he was signed from The Republic of Ireland role was that he would likely be the next head coach if and when Jan.S gets canned...The appointment of David Webb only reinforced the thought, as the experience levels seem a better fit. I absolutely believe that if P.H had the so called full confidence in Jan...More investment in the squad would have happened . Cheaper low risk potential, or low fee/free transfers in suggests trust issues. Why spend significant sums for a Manager you have grown to have no faith in. They had publicly backed him , so must give maybe 10 games to not lose face totally, and I hope I am wrong , and we improve massively an quickly, but I can't ignore my own business/people management history, and my instinct that the late appointment of Webb after deadline day was to fireproof him for when Jan goes, and that January sees some significant squad investment with a new trusted capable Manager/ Head Coach...… Just an opinion , and though it's painful right now I never have or will slag my club off....Not even when secQond bottom of the old 4th Division :-) The Assistant I was referring to was Winkler from Barnsley meaning very unlikely would look at the Barnsley boss or he’d give us a thought 😉 He can’t have long left though, fed the line that he inherited a toxic dressing room and that they’re now all on board - the bulk of the team in first two games were 9 and 8 of the regular starters respectively and nothing has changed. No pattern, no identity. After we scored today we offered nothing and that’s a concern. Agree totally terrier10.. and think Winkler may have gone to further expose Jans shortcoming....My point re Colin Bell, and how his skill set and experience seems to fit with David Webb,and the low risk investment over the summer would seem plausible...Jan found Carlan Grant, which may, along with the "shoot themselves in the foot" public player outbursts have strengthened his position enough to get him through the summer, and maybe 10 games. It does seem though that P.H and co , having been more hands on day to day lately, may have more readily exposed his shortcomings.. Especially at the side of the newly recruited Coach.. Who I would be amazed if goes when Jan does as seems more likely each week. Sincerely hope am wrong and Jan turns things quickly, though not looking likely....UTT TTID no matter what as always! |
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Post by htfctx on Aug 11, 2019 1:59:41 GMT 1
I am not in the "sack him now" camp but have a word Tuesday with Jack Payne and find out about Danny Cowley.
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Post by space hardware on Aug 11, 2019 7:57:36 GMT 1
The Assistant I was referring to was Winkler from Barnsley meaning very unlikely would look at the Barnsley boss or he’d give us a thought 😉 He can’t have long left though, fed the line that he inherited a toxic dressing room and that they’re now all on board - the bulk of the team in first two games were 9 and 8 of the regular starters respectively and nothing has changed. No pattern, no identity. After we scored today we offered nothing and that’s a concern. Agree totally terrier10.. and think Winkler may have gone to further expose Jans shortcoming....My point re Colin Bell, and how his skill set and experience seems to fit with David Webb,and the low risk investment over the summer would seem plausible... Jan found Carlan Grant, which may, along with the "shoot themselves in the foot" public player outbursts have strengthened his position enough to get him through the summer, and maybe 10 games. It does seem though that P.H and co , having been more hands on day to day lately, may have more readily exposed his shortcomings.. Especially at the side of the newly recruited Coach.. Who I would be amazed if goes when Jan does as seems more likely each week. Sincerely hope am wrong and Jan turns things quickly, though not looking likely....UTT TTID no matter what as always! Siewert "finding Grant" is a new one on me. Any evidence to back this claim up? |
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Post by alexdire on Aug 11, 2019 8:15:38 GMT 1
Wouldn't touch us with a barge pole Why? I think he could be interested,good squad,decent crowds,only just out of the premier league,apparently a bit of money in the bank? He’s someone you can get behind and has a good track record,whether we’ll pay for him is another matter I'd imagine he would want to manage back in the Premier League. So that's either with one already there or one with a chance of getting there. We are neither. He wouldn't be able to get us up with the current squad. So would be a rebuilding exercise taking the next two transfer windows. Then you've got to factor in that the new regime can't back him financially and probably couldn't pay his wage demands. We are back to being a small championship club, fighting to stay in the division. But this time with a chairman who can't subsidise us. |
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Post by terrier10 on Aug 11, 2019 8:58:36 GMT 1
Agree totally terrier10.. and think Winkler may have gone to further expose Jans shortcoming....My point re Colin Bell, and how his skill set and experience seems to fit with David Webb,and the low risk investment over the summer would seem plausible... Jan found Carlan Grant, which may, along with the "shoot themselves in the foot" public player outbursts have strengthened his position enough to get him through the summer, and maybe 10 games. It does seem though that P.H and co , having been more hands on day to day lately, may have more readily exposed his shortcomings.. Especially at the side of the newly recruited Coach.. Who I would be amazed if goes when Jan does as seems more likely each week. Sincerely hope am wrong and Jan turns things quickly, though not looking likely....UTT TTID no matter what as always! Siewert "finding Grant" is a new one on me. Any evidence to back this claim up? Alan Nixon reported our interest in him on 20 January the day before Jan was appointed - the interest and scouting had surely already taken place so don’t think JS can take credit for that one! |
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Aug 11, 2019 9:24:46 GMT 1
When van la parra is taking the piss on instagram and Bacuna is liking it you know the manager is done. Not entirely an eye opening revelation or surprising, but spoke to somebody with connections at the club a couple of days after Derby and they said Jan doesn’t have the dressing room, players doing what they want, etc. Definitely think he is on borrowed time, it’s whether or not PH has the balls to act so early into his reign / the season. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 13:17:24 GMT 1
Hughton was born in Forest Gate, then part of Essex, now part of London, the son of a Ghanaian postman, Willie Hughton, and his Irish wife Christine, née Bourke. He was educated locally, at St Bonaventure's Catholic School, and completed a four-year apprenticeship as a lift engineer before turning professional with Tottenham Hotspur. His brother Henry played football for Crystal Palace, Leyton Orient and Brentford, and for the Republic of Ireland under-21 team in 1981.
Hughton and wife Cheryl have four children: daughters Carleen and Aisha and sons Leon and Cian. Cian also became a footballer; he began his career with Tottenham Hotspur, represented the Republic of Ireland at under-21 level, and played in the Football League for Lincoln City.
Hughton wrote a column for the Workers' Revolutionary Party publication News Line in the 1970s. Hughton plays down the Trotskyist connection: "it's probably not as dramatic as it sounds. I've always had strong views on social issues such as hospitals - I think we should have a good health system - and the education system, too ... These days, players can do as many interviews and columns as they want. Back in the day, it wasn't like that. Anyway, I'm sure I wrote about football and football issues. Nothing else." He is a member of the Labour Party.
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Post by geoffhuttsbandylegs on Aug 11, 2019 15:07:22 GMT 1
Agree totally terrier10.. and think Winkler may have gone to further expose Jans shortcoming....My point re Colin Bell, and how his skill set and experience seems to fit with David Webb,and the low risk investment over the summer would seem plausible... Jan found Carlan Grant, which may, along with the "shoot themselves in the foot" public player outbursts have strengthened his position enough to get him through the summer, and maybe 10 games. It does seem though that P.H and co , having been more hands on day to day lately, may have more readily exposed his shortcomings.. Especially at the side of the newly recruited Coach.. Who I would be amazed if goes when Jan does as seems more likely each week. Sincerely hope am wrong and Jan turns things quickly, though not looking likely....UTT TTID no matter what as always! Siewert "finding Grant" is a new one on me. Any evidence to back this claim up? He's said it himself first week in as boss, and in a couple of interviews before last season ended to seemingly in an effort give himself credibility, which I found odd , and Julian Winter confirmed that was so on an HTTV interview.. It has been mentioned in print since but may have been one of the many "re quotes" the comic that is the Examiner spews out. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 13, 2019 22:37:23 GMT 1
Come on down.
Hope Phil rings him.
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Post by York Terrier on Aug 13, 2019 22:40:10 GMT 1
Please please Phil redeem yourself get him in before the Fulham game
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 22:40:48 GMT 1
Come on down. Hope Phil rings him. He’s got no credit and won’t be topping up till January. |
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Post by terriers2000 on Aug 13, 2019 22:41:28 GMT 1
Potless phil trying to convinced Hughton to accept £500 a week
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 13, 2019 22:42:24 GMT 1
Come on down. Hope Phil rings him. He's on Virgin mobile Check your phone Nick |
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Post by jim100 on Aug 13, 2019 22:42:24 GMT 1
Please please Phil redeem yourself get him in before the Fulham game Are you having a laugh. David hokaday is out of our price range. |
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Post by terrierneil on Aug 13, 2019 22:44:05 GMT 1
Save us from this nightmare Lord Chris
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Post by Giggity on Aug 13, 2019 22:46:07 GMT 1
Am I the only one who wouldn't want Hughton? Boring defensive football that will only get a team so far.
I would rather see us press and play attacking football.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 22:49:06 GMT 1
Am I the only one who wouldn't want Hughton? Boring defensive football that will only get a team so far. I would rather see us press and play attacking football. So far being stable in the premier league when he left. I’d happily take that |
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Post by willo on Aug 13, 2019 22:51:45 GMT 1
If it’s right that the manager has gone, really only 1 obvious candidate for me, Chris Hughton. Most importantly, he’s available & has worked north, south, east & west so isn’t too fussy on location of the club. If he won’t come or we won’t push to whatever he wants (which really shouldn’t be an issue!), then it’s the Cowley Bros who I bet would relish a new challenge.
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Post by hthtafs on Aug 13, 2019 22:53:58 GMT 1
Am I the only one who wouldn't want Hughton? Boring defensive football that will only get a team so far. I would rather see us press and play attacking football. And we’ve scored what an average of 35 goals a season for the past 3 seasons ... doesn’t get less expansive than that ! |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 17, 2019 8:11:58 GMT 1
Time to get him in, a proper manager.
Come on down.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 17, 2019 8:13:17 GMT 1
Time to get him in, a proper manager. Come on down. we do need a proper manager. Why not? |
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 17, 2019 8:15:54 GMT 1
I don’t think there is anyone at the club at the moment with the nouse to find a proper manager. Although I’d like to see what David Webb thinks.
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Post by runner76 on Aug 17, 2019 8:17:52 GMT 1
I don’t think there is anyone at the club at the moment with the nouse to find a proper manager. Although I’d like to see what David Webb thinks. ...and is the decision and process for a manager as much his field as players? Talking about this last night and not sure how the process works with a manager?.... |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 17, 2019 8:20:45 GMT 1
It’s a shame that one of the most lucrative stages in the club’s history seems to be chaired by the least experienced.
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 17, 2019 8:27:13 GMT 1
I don’t think there is anyone at the club at the moment with the nouse to find a proper manager. Although I’d like to see what David Webb thinks. ...and is the decision and process for a manager as much his field as players? Talking about this last night and not sure how the process works with a manager?.... I’d imagine he has the same role as Webber who suggested DW. Whoever we choose, as always, it will be the cheapest option. |
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Post by royrace on Aug 17, 2019 8:27:59 GMT 1
It's all about the budget. From the outside looking in we seem to be skint, or maybe we were building a war chest all along.
If we are skint there's no way hughton is coming, his stock is high enough for him to wait for a club where he has a good chance of promotion.
He's also as southern as Chris Powell, I know he managed Newcastle but would he be happy up North.
Cowleys record at Lincoln is amazing but I'm not sure we can afford to gamble. Relegation is an option if we don't get this right.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 17, 2019 8:28:21 GMT 1
I don’t think there is anyone at the club at the moment with the nouse to find a proper manager. Although I’d like to see what David Webb thinks. has he been involved already? wouldn't be surprised if he has. |
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Post by runner76 on Aug 17, 2019 8:31:39 GMT 1
...and is the decision and process for a manager as much his field as players? Talking about this last night and not sure how the process works with a manager?.... I’d imagine he has the same role as Webber who suggested DW. Whoever we choose, as always, it will be the cheapest option. Would be criminal if this happens. Decent manager will be no more than our star players so no excuse! |
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