VLP

[Porrohman]

Sept 19, 2019 13:40:15 GMT 1 pribo1908 said:

Failed? No wouldn’t say he did, I think he flattered to deceive at times and when he could be bothered to work he was great going forward with no end product, his biggest asset was his tracking back and helping the defence, think we are better without him as I think he was disruptive and only put a shift in whe he wanted to.

And we're now left with wingers that still have no end product and don't work as hard as him defensively and I include them all in that not just the 2 quick ones

[drumriggend]

He should not have been sold whilst we were still going thru the process of appointing a new manager..
Bet the cowleys would have loved him in the squad..
Never got the chance tho..

[space hardware]

Sept 19, 2019 15:50:24 GMT 1 drumriggend said:

He should not have been sold whilst we were still going thru the process of appointing a new manager..
Bet the cowleys would have loved him in the squad..
Never got the chance tho..

Saved a few quid off the wage bill though, which is the main thing.... right?

[Nickhudds.UTT]

Sept 19, 2019 15:50:24 GMT 1 drumriggend said:

He should not have been sold whilst we were still going thru the process of appointing a new manager..
Bet the cowleys would have loved him in the squad..
Never got the chance tho..

Class player !

[drumriggend]

Sept 19, 2019 16:47:12 GMT 1 space hardware said:

Sept 19, 2019 15:50:24 GMT 1 drumriggend said:

He should not have been sold whilst we were still going thru the process of appointing a new manager..
Bet the cowleys would have loved him in the squad..
Never got the chance tho..

Saved a few quid off the wage bill though, which is the main thing.... right?

More likely used the sale money to pay lincoln compo..
🥵

[colnevalleyblue]

Sept 19, 2019 15:50:24 GMT 1 drumriggend said:

He should not have been sold whilst we were still going thru the process of appointing a new manager..
Bet the cowleys would have loved him in the squad..
Never got the chance tho..

His agent had made it clear he wanted out.
His performance against Luton made it pretty clear he couldn't be arsed and he spent 60 minutes doing his own thing.

[royrace]

Sept 19, 2019 17:24:50 GMT 1 colnevalleyblue said:

Sept 19, 2019 15:50:24 GMT 1 drumriggend said:

He should not have been sold whilst we were still going thru the process of appointing a new manager..
Bet the cowleys would have loved him in the squad..
Never got the chance tho..

His agent had made it clear he wanted out.
His performance against Luton made it pretty clear he couldn't be arsed and he spent 60 minutes doing his own thing.

Like pretty much every single player this season then, including Hogg and Schindler. 

He was sold to being money in, it would have been nice to see what Cowley made of him. 

[htfcfcfc]

Amazing how players all of sudden become so much better when they’re unavailable for whatever reason

The guy was a prize pr1ck. Never a team player and only delivered on rare occasions. We’re better rid of him

[drumriggend]

Sept 19, 2019 17:35:12 GMT 1 htfcfcfc said:

Amazing how players all of sudden become so much better when they’re unavailable for whatever reason

The guy was a prize pr1ck. Never a team player and only delivered on rare occasions. We’re better rid of him

Absolutely bro..
Much better to have diakabhy..
And mbenza..
Isnt it?
The problem with those two is they are so bad we cant give em away..
Never mind sell em..
Vlp had value- because he had ablilty..
Those 2 ??
Fook my life they are embarassing🤮

[Deleted]

According to a friend who from follows Lincoln VLP could have been a easy player to coach on how to be a better diver!

[Deleted]

Right player was VLP. Terorised opponents for 2 years under Wagner. Pace, touch, speed. Great to watch. Wed have had zero forwards thrust without him. Taking into account his impact on the team (promotion) and his cost £750k he will go down as one of our best ever signings. Managed very well by Wagner. He suited the rest of our team by giving us that forward drive and ability to turn possession into an attack.

[frankslegs]

When I get really fed up I watch VLP two minute highlight video from HTFC archives -‘and Aaron Mooys as well for that matter.He could dribble for God and of course he was frustrating but right deep deep down I,m sad he’s gone...😰

[Nickhudds.UTT]

Sept 19, 2019 18:09:21 GMT 1 @htfcprideofyorkshire said:

Right player was VLP. Terorised opponents for 2 years under Wagner. Pace, touch, speed. Great to watch. Wed have had zero forwards thrust without him. Taking into account his impact on the team (promotion) and his cost £750k he will go down as one of our best ever signings. Managed very well by Wagner. He suited the rest of our team by giving us that forward drive and ability to turn possession into an attack.

Exactly, massive shame he wanted to go just leaving mbenza and diakhaby .

[terriertim]

Sept 19, 2019 18:09:21 GMT 1 @htfcprideofyorkshire said:

Right player was VLP. Terorised opponents for 2 years under Wagner. Pace, touch, speed. Great to watch. Wed have had zero forwards thrust without him. Taking into account his impact on the team (promotion) and his cost £750k he will go down as one of our best ever signings. Managed very well by Wagner. He suited the rest of our team by giving us that forward drive and ability to turn possession into an attack.

We must have signed some lazy arsed shite then.....as I said marmite player -  some love him some think he was crap.....makes life interesting I suppose.

[Deleted]

Sept 19, 2019 18:53:08 GMT 1 terriertim said:

Sept 19, 2019 18:09:21 GMT 1 @htfcprideofyorkshire said:

Right player was VLP. Terorised opponents for 2 years under Wagner. Pace, touch, speed. Great to watch. Wed have had zero forwards thrust without him. Taking into account his impact on the team (promotion) and his cost £750k he will go down as one of our best ever signings. Managed very well by Wagner. He suited the rest of our team by giving us that forward drive and ability to turn possession into an attack.

We must have signed some lazy arsed shite then.....as I said marmite player -  some love him some think he was crap.....makes life interesting I suppose.

we’ve signed plenty! plenty on the books right now. He had his limitations of course but for a year or two he was a key part of a very successful team. Personally, I rate a wide player like Snodgrass or Brunt at this level- they know who where when and how to pass it and they deliver quality a lot more often than not. I hope the Cowleys make a break from our recent appproach of every player having to be an athlete- irrespective of footballing ability(Hadergjonaj).

[htfcfcfc]

Sept 19, 2019 17:39:13 GMT 1 drumriggend said:

Sept 19, 2019 17:35:12 GMT 1 htfcfcfc said:

Amazing how players all of sudden become so much better when they’re unavailable for whatever reason

The guy was a prize pr1ck. Never a team player and only delivered on rare occasions. We’re better rid of him

Absolutely bro..
Much better to have diakabhy..
And mbenza..
Isnt it?
The problem with those two is they are so bad we cant give em away..
Never mind sell em..
Vlp had value- because he had ablilty..
Those 2 ??
Fook my life they are embarassing🤮

Not arguing about Diabenza. This thread is about VLP right?

But while you mention it, yes, I would rather have a Diakhaby who tries compared to a sulking VLP who by the way couldn’t make it into the Boro side last season.

I’m sure those 5 league goals in 80 odd league appearances could in no way have been replaced by any other players....there’s your ability right there....bro

[King Curtis]

I will always look back at RVLP with mainly fond memories. He could frustrate for sure but there was a certain unpredictability that had (particularly Championship) defenses shitting themselves.

Countless times in our promotion season, the opposition had to double up on him which freed up space for the rest of our team.

Under a bit of pressure defending a lead? Give the ball to Rajiv... carries it 40 yards and then wins a free kick.

He goes down as a member of the best Town side I've ever seen.

Why is there so much hate for the guy?! He's moved on to bigger and better things now and good luck to him.

[Deleted]

He has never been effective. He just never got his head up and played the right ball. He was not, single handed, the reason we had a negative goal difference, but he was part of the problem.
Hope he does well where he has gone but I don’t think he will change. For me he flattered to deceive.

[King Curtis]

Sept 19, 2019 21:18:11 GMT 1 @bluesandtwos said:

He has never been effective. He just never got his head up and played the right ball. He was not, single handed, the reason we had a negative goal difference, but he was part of the problem.
Hope he does well where he has gone but I don’t think he will change. For me he flattered to deceive.

Sorry pal, but that's just pure drivel.

Town have had a negative goal difference for the last 8 seasons.

But yeah sure - let's suggest a left winger who played 3/8 of those seasons was "part of the problem".

I don't do this often but this is

[Wagner Uber Alles]

Sept 19, 2019 20:29:21 GMT 1 King Curtis said:

I will always look back at RVLP with mainly fond memories. He could frustrate for sure but there was a certain unpredictability that had (particularly Championship) defenses shitting themselves.

Countless times in our promotion season, the opposition had to double up on him which freed up space for the rest of our team.

Under a bit of pressure defending a lead? Give the ball to Rajiv... carries it 40 yards and then wins a free kick.

He goes down as a member of the best Town side I've ever seen.

Why is there so much hate for the guy?! He's moved on to bigger and better things now and good luck to him.

Spot on comment. He’s a big loss to us and the right manager could get much more out of him.

[Nickhudds.UTT]

Sept 19, 2019 21:18:11 GMT 1 @bluesandtwos said:

He has never been effective. He just never got his head up and played the right ball. He was not, single handed, the reason we had a negative goal difference, but he was part of the problem.
Hope he does well where he has gone but I don’t think he will change. For me he flattered to deceive.

Lol, trying to blame the legend Vlp for that, proves you have no idea.

[explorer]

Sept 19, 2019 21:26:04 GMT 1 King Curtis said:

Sept 19, 2019 21:18:11 GMT 1 @bluesandtwos said:

He has never been effective. He just never got his head up and played the right ball. He was not, single handed, the reason we had a negative goal difference, but he was part of the problem.
Hope he does well where he has gone but I don’t think he will change. For me he flattered to deceive.

Sorry pal, but that's just pure drivel.

Town have had a negative goal difference for the last 8 seasons.

But yeah sure - let's suggest a left winger who played 3/8 of those seasons was "part of the problem".

I don't do this often but this is

Come on, 5 goals and 3 assists in all the time he was with us. He WAS part of the problem. As far as being double- teamed and “freeing up” space for other team mates...if he had had the smarts to play in these team mates then great. But he invariably didn’t. He tried to take the defenders on again, he fell over the ball, he pretended to be injured. More times than not, he ended up losing the ball.
Which is a great shame, because there was a talented ball-player in there. If we could have got that out of him to add to his defensive efforts, he would be an important player for us today.
That promotion team was right players, right time, right place. Look at them now individually and you see how average they are. VLP, Kachunga, Heff, Hoggy, Quaner. Can’t fault the effort of any of them, but the lack of quality is plain to see.

[htfcfcfc]

Sept 19, 2019 21:26:04 GMT 1 King Curtis said:

Sept 19, 2019 21:18:11 GMT 1 @bluesandtwos said:

He has never been effective. He just never got his head up and played the right ball. He was not, single handed, the reason we had a negative goal difference, but he was part of the problem.
Hope he does well where he has gone but I don’t think he will change. For me he flattered to deceive.

Sorry pal, but that's just pure drivel.

Town have had a negative goal difference for the last 8 seasons.

But yeah sure - let's suggest a left winger who played 3/8 of those seasons was "part of the problem".

I don't do this often but this is

Bit of an overstatement. In defence of this chap, I’d say he meant negative goal difference in the promotion season where undoubtedly as one of 4 key attacking players on the pitch he was part of the problem. Never mind his goals, his assists stats are awful. He worked much harder that promotion season, will credit him for that and will always remember his performance against Man Utd but overall he clearly wasn’t the player HE believed he was

[Deleted]

Sept 19, 2019 17:56:48 GMT 1 @bronteterrier said:

According to a friend who from follows Lincoln VLP could have been a easy player to coach on how to be a better diver!

Flo will be the new star pupil, The Cowleys like a bit of hoodwinking,

[overtonterrierspirit]

One thing is for sure.
Like him or not, he is still been debated even after he’s gone.
Can’t think of many other personalities in our squad that would command as much attention.
Latest in an extremely long list of crazy decisions letting him go imo.

[htfcfcfc]

Sept 20, 2019 0:00:24 GMT 1 overtonterrierspirit said:

One thing is for sure.
Like him or not, he is still been debated even after he’s gone.
Can’t think of many other personalities in our squad that would command as much attention.
Latest in an extremely long list of crazy decisions letting him go imo.

Letting him go

Debatable, possibly.

Crazy. Absolutely not

[Tinpot]

Sept 19, 2019 17:39:13 GMT 1 drumriggend said:

Sept 19, 2019 17:35:12 GMT 1 htfcfcfc said:

Amazing how players all of sudden become so much better when they’re unavailable for whatever reason

The guy was a prize pr1ck. Never a team player and only delivered on rare occasions. We’re better rid of him

Absolutely bro..
Much better to have diakabhy..
And mbenza..
Isnt it?
The problem with those two is they are so bad we cant give em away..
Never mind sell em..
Vlp had value- because he had ablilty..
Those 2 ??
Fook my life they are embarassing🤮

RVLP was/is a better footballer than Diakhaby & Mbenza put together, but that doesn't mean we were wrong to get rid of him when we had the chance.

The guy's attitude was awful.

[Tinpot]

Sept 19, 2019 16:47:12 GMT 1 space hardware said:

Sept 19, 2019 15:50:24 GMT 1 drumriggend said:

He should not have been sold whilst we were still going thru the process of appointing a new manager..
Bet the cowleys would have loved him in the squad..
Never got the chance tho..

Saved a few quid off the wage bill though, which is the main thing.... right?

That & got somebody with a toxic attitude out of the club. Undermined both Wagner & Siewert, whilst playing his shitty little games.

Talented player, and there are worse still here - but the main thing is that we got shut of somebody who had undermined the club and the 2 managers he'd worked under. Anyone seriously think he'd have turned over a new leaf for the Cowleys?

Fuck him.

[Deleted]

Sept 19, 2019 21:26:04 GMT 1 King Curtis said:

Sept 19, 2019 21:18:11 GMT 1 @bluesandtwos said:

He has never been effective. He just never got his head up and played the right ball. He was not, single handed, the reason we had a negative goal difference, but he was part of the problem.
Hope he does well where he has gone but I don’t think he will change. For me he flattered to deceive.

Sorry pal, but that's just pure drivel.

Town have had a negative goal difference for the last 8 seasons.

But yeah sure - let's suggest a left winger who played 3/8 of those seasons was "part of the problem".

I don't do this often but this is

A good winger is a real threat to the opposition and a joy to watch. We had two over 6ft centre forwards playing one up front and VLP would do all the fancy stuff and even if he got a cross in, which was not often, the opposition would be back in numbers. I am sure the problem has always been bigger than just one player, and he was asked to defend more which he did, but he wasted so many opportunities. Maybe he should have played as an out and out winger on the right, that probably was not his choice, although he did like to shoot as much as cross.

I have watched my share of wingers, good bad and indifferent, and VLP was nearly always a disappointment.

Take issue with my comment about his contribution to our negative goal difference if you want but please be a little more balanced in your assessment.

[richhtfc]

Sept 20, 2019 0:00:24 GMT 1 overtonterrierspirit said:

One thing is for sure.
Like him or not, he is still been debated even after he’s gone.
Can’t think of many other personalities in our squad that would command as much attention.
Latest in an extremely long list of crazy decisions letting him go imo.

It’s interesting that a lot of you think it’s in our best interests to keep players against their wills. I think the club are right to get rid of players who don’t want to stay regardless of how good they are providing we get a good value. These players aren’t robots, you can’t equate their worth to their best performances because that’s not what we’re getting from them. I don’t want sulky, disinterested players who aren’t putting 100% in. Even legends like Mooy, if he doesn’t want to be here, get good value, let him go and find someone who does want to be here.