VLP

[Yorkie]

Can see it now. VLP Grant and Pritchard play well and give us a lead with 15 mins to go then Jan bring Mbenza and Quaner on for 2 of them and a quick fire Mitrovic double kills us.

[overtonterrierspirit]

Aug 15, 2019 17:12:21 GMT 1 boooothy said:

This isn’t even a debate anymore. He’s the best winger at the club, has been since he arrived. If he’s not going to get picked someone needs to come out and tell us what he’s done wrong.

And not some bullshit about not playing last season.

My opinion is that Jan is only 36, not an issue when you’re managing kids desperate for a break and to play in the first team. But he must be intimidated by players who have achieved so much more than he has in football and doesn’t know how to deal with them.

He wants model pros like Schindler, Hogg, Elphick or young kids. Not players who drive round in baseball hats and blacked out windows.

Or players who get pi****d off when they don’t get picked even though they know that inferior players are in the team!

[Deleted]

Aug 15, 2019 17:43:40 GMT 1 Yorkie said:

Can see it now. VLP Grant and Pritchard play well and give us a lead with 15 mins to go then Jan bring Mbenza and Quaner on for 2 of them and a quick fire Mitrovic double kills us.

Like when Quaner came on away at Wednesday in the playoffs?

Super Col made much more of his time away on loan than VLP did last season. 

[Nickhudds.UTT]

Rvlp will tear them a new one tonight !
Come on you mighty mighty Rvlp.

[Chips Longhorn]

Vlp has become a hero by absence . He's ok but let's not get carried away

[royrace]

Aug 15, 2019 23:53:46 GMT 1 overtonterrierspirit said:

Aug 15, 2019 17:12:21 GMT 1 boooothy said:

This isn’t even a debate anymore. He’s the best winger at the club, has been since he arrived. If he’s not going to get picked someone needs to come out and tell us what he’s done wrong.

And not some bullshit about not playing last season.

My opinion is that Jan is only 36, not an issue when you’re managing kids desperate for a break and to play in the first team. But he must be intimidated by players who have achieved so much more than he has in football and doesn’t know how to deal with them.

He wants model pros like Schindler, Hogg, Elphick or young kids. Not players who drive round in baseball hats and blacked out windows.

Or players who get pi****d off when they don’t get picked even though they know that inferior players are in the team!

Exactly, not surprising he got pissed off last season frozen out by 2 inferior wingers who were probably earning a lot more than him, maybe he realised that their shitness was also the reason he would never get a game as they'd forced Wagner to change to 5 at the back. 

I get the impression Jan and the club have decided they want to cash in on Rajiv, after all they have all the non league gems the club bought in the closed season and Diakbeza who will of course "tear the championship a new one". Maybe they've just mysteriously realised that his contract is running out. 

Maybe Jan falling out with players has suited the club really well as it's assisted with the fire sale which seems to have been planned since the relegation was pretty much nailed on and/or takeover plan hatched. Not many people asked questions as to why a team spirit which was probably one of the best in the PL suddenly turned so bad that a wholesale clear out would be needed over 3 windows. I suspect it was always much more about balancing the books than bad apples in the squad. They obviously see Rajiv and Mounie as saleable assets which can be dispensed with. 

Maybe another amazing out of this world offer will come in from a European club (or a loan deal with a small fee which gets wages of the books).

[royrace]

Aug 16, 2019 7:54:43 GMT 1 Chips Longhorn said:

Vlp has become a hero by absence . He's ok but let's not get carried away

Basically we're £25M in and he's still by far the best winger on the books. 

[Chips Longhorn]

Aug 16, 2019 8:06:53 GMT 1 royrace said:

Aug 16, 2019 7:54:43 GMT 1 Chips Longhorn said:

Vlp has become a hero by absence . He's ok but let's not get carried away

Basically we're £25M in and he's still by far the best winger on the books. 

Do you know what . Look at any club in the country, there are many players on all of their books who can be labelled "disappointments" The trick is trying to have as few as possible. It was evident by Xmas that we had a poor summer transfer window. But I really don't think it's healthy to dwell on it any further. Mbenza and Diakhaby both have attributes that lead me to think they will have careers as good (or bad ) as vlp. I just hope all three won't dwell on what might have been when their careers are over. The problem is these days you become a multi millionaire for being bang average. So I doubt it will troublen them

[CaptainHart]

Aug 16, 2019 8:04:24 GMT 1 royrace said:

Aug 15, 2019 23:53:46 GMT 1 overtonterrierspirit said:

Or players who get pi****d off when they don’t get picked even though they know that inferior players are in the team!

Exactly, not surprising he got pissed off last season frozen out by 2 inferior wingers who were probably earning a lot more than him, maybe he realised that their shitness was also the reason he would never get a game as they'd forced Wagner to change to 5 at the back. 

It was Wagner who froze VLP out and shipped him off to Boro, yet somehow it's Siewart's fault.

[conman]

Aug 16, 2019 7:54:43 GMT 1 Chips Longhorn said:

Vlp has become a hero by absence . He's ok but let's not get carried away

Nick seems to regard him as the new messiah, the chosen one to get us out of this hole.
Must admit, I do have a soft spot for him myself, RVLP that is..

[Rambo]

Aug 16, 2019 7:54:43 GMT 1 Chips Longhorn said:

Vlp has become a hero by absence . He's ok but let's not get carried away

How dare you?

We will have no sourness towards our saviour!!!

[zoso]

Aug 16, 2019 8:45:42 GMT 1 CaptainHart said:

Aug 16, 2019 8:04:24 GMT 1 royrace said:

Exactly, not surprising he got pissed off last season frozen out by 2 inferior wingers who were probably earning a lot more than him, maybe he realised that their shitness was also the reason he would never get a game as they'd forced Wagner to change to 5 at the back. 

It was Wagner who froze VLP out and shipped him off to Boro, yet somehow it's Siewart's fault.

True, but its siewart that's not playing him now. Didn't even start him against lincoln.

[overtonterrierspirit]

Aug 16, 2019 8:04:24 GMT 1 royrace said:

Aug 15, 2019 23:53:46 GMT 1 overtonterrierspirit said:

Or players who get pi****d off when they don’t get picked even though they know that inferior players are in the team!

Exactly, not surprising he got pissed off last season frozen out by 2 inferior wingers who were probably earning a lot more than him, maybe he realised that their shitness was also the reason he would never get a game as they'd forced Wagner to change to 5 at the back. 

I get the impression Jan and the club have decided they want to cash in on Rajiv, after all they have all the non league gems the club bought in the closed season and Diakbeza who will of course "tear the championship a new one". Maybe they've just mysteriously realised that his contract is running out. 

Maybe Jan falling out with players has suited the club really well as it's assisted with the fire sale which seems to have been planned since the relegation was pretty much nailed on and/or takeover plan hatched. Not many people asked questions as to why a team spirit which was probably one of the best in the PL suddenly turned so bad that a wholesale clear out would be needed over 3 windows. I suspect it was always much more about balancing the books than bad apples in the squad. They obviously see Rajiv and Mounie as saleable assets which can be dispensed with. 

Maybe another amazing out of this world offer will come in from a European club (or a loan deal with a small fee which gets wages of the books).

Summed up perfectly.

[royrace]

Aug 16, 2019 8:45:42 GMT 1 CaptainHart said:

Aug 16, 2019 8:04:24 GMT 1 royrace said:

Exactly, not surprising he got pissed off last season frozen out by 2 inferior wingers who were probably earning a lot more than him, maybe he realised that their shitness was also the reason he would never get a game as they'd forced Wagner to change to 5 at the back. 

It was Wagner who froze VLP out and shipped him off to Boro, yet somehow it's Siewart's fault.

Yes it was but I was hoping this season would be a clean slate, according to his social media he was raring to go, that was then shortly followed by a hint he'd been stabbed in the back, since then he's barely featured despite being MUCH better than any of our other options. Seems to me he has been told he isn't wanted and the club are trying to cash in, whether that's the coaches decision or its about money is open to debate.

[Deleted]

Aug 16, 2019 7:54:43 GMT 1 Chips Longhorn said:

Vlp has become a hero by absence . He's ok but let's not get carried away

More of a reflection of how poor the other players have been than VLP’s skills I suspect, but I’m a fan of his. Can get us into front foot with ball at his feet. He’s a much more accomplished player than diabenz.

[Torquayterrier]

Ultimately it's all about getting a quality ball in that beats their defenders and is appropriate to whoever happens to be in the box. We have been lacking that on a consistant basis since before Wagner left.VLP has wasted many opportunities in the past as have Mbenza and Diakhaby more recently. If VLP had a great run out on Tues that's good news but as Ted says lets not go OTT.

[Nickhudds.UTT]

Get him in tonight !

[townrwe]

Seems a spell out of the team and suddenly no end product RVLP is going to kick-start our resurrection by suddenly firing in the goals and assists...... might be a few disappointed despite his ability to carry the ball up field, he isnt suddenly going to add teeth to our toothless attack.

[Porrohman]

Aug 16, 2019 11:11:04 GMT 1 townrwe said:

Seems a spell out of the team and suddenly no end product RVLP is going to kick-start our resurrection by suddenly firing in the goals and assists...... might be a few disappointed despite his ability to carry the ball up field, he isnt suddenly going to add teeth to our toothless attack.

You missed his perfect cross, with his weaker foot, straight onto Mounies head on Tuesday. Unfortunately he headed it wide

[royrace]

Aug 16, 2019 11:11:04 GMT 1 townrwe said:

Seems a spell out of the team and suddenly no end product RVLP is going to kick-start our resurrection by suddenly firing in the goals and assists...... might be a few disappointed despite his ability to carry the ball up field, he isnt suddenly going to add teeth to our toothless attack.

He can at least beat a man, retain possession for longer than 2 seconds, pass to a team mate and track runners, oh and he knows where to stand. That makes him head and shoulders above Diakbenza. Maybe if there is anyone in the box tonight his crosses may actually go to one of our men too. He'll probably be on the bench anyway or in Turkey. 

[Nickhudds.UTT]

Legend !

[arry11]

Aug 16, 2019 12:49:33 GMT 1 royrace said:

Aug 16, 2019 11:11:04 GMT 1 townrwe said:

Seems a spell out of the team and suddenly no end product RVLP is going to kick-start our resurrection by suddenly firing in the goals and assists...... might be a few disappointed despite his ability to carry the ball up field, he isnt suddenly going to add teeth to our toothless attack.

He can at least beat a man, retain possession for longer than 2 seconds, pass to a team mate and track runners, oh and he knows where to stand. That makes him head and shoulders above Diakbenza. Maybe if there is anyone in the box tonight his crosses may actually go to one of our men too. He'll probably be on the bench anyway or in Turkey. 

Thats funny i remember a team that couldn't get out of our own half and the best football we ever played was without wingers.

[Porrohman]

Aug 16, 2019 13:40:35 GMT 1 arry11 said:

Aug 16, 2019 12:49:33 GMT 1 royrace said:

He can at least beat a man, retain possession for longer than 2 seconds, pass to a team mate and track runners, oh and he knows where to stand. That makes him head and shoulders above Diakbenza. Maybe if there is anyone in the box tonight his crosses may actually go to one of our men too. He'll probably be on the bench anyway or in Turkey. 

Thats funny i remember a team that couldn't get out of our own half and the best football we ever played was without wingers.

When was the best we've ever played ?

[arry11]

Aug 16, 2019 13:44:21 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Aug 16, 2019 13:40:35 GMT 1 arry11 said:

Thats funny i remember a team that couldn't get out of our own half and the best football we ever played was without wingers.

When was the best we've ever played ?

Just before Mooy and a few others got injured.

[8pack]

He came on Tuesday and really made a difference. They put three on him he still got three decent crosses in. Must play against Fulham...

[Captainslapper]

Aug 16, 2019 13:54:26 GMT 1 8pack said:

He came on Tuesday and really made a difference. They put three on him he still got three decent crosses in. Must play against Fulham...

Yup. Immediately looked a different level to all the other town players on the night ( keeper aside )
Which to be honest isn;t saying much.

Its bizarre Mbenza has been ahead of him in the pecking order. Quaner and Kachunga too.
Diakhaby looks to have something about him, but even so VLP seems the more likely to actually effect the game in our favour of the two.

[VLP Fan Club]

Criminal VLP hasn't been involved thus far, Tuesday showed he is what we've been crying out for.

Suspect Jan won't select him again however.

[Yorkie]

Aug 16, 2019 0:24:21 GMT 1 @bluewhiteblackgold said:

Aug 15, 2019 17:43:40 GMT 1 Yorkie said:

Can see it now. VLP Grant and Pritchard play well and give us a lead with 15 mins to go then Jan bring Mbenza and Quaner on for 2 of them and a quick fire Mitrovic double kills us.

Like when Quaner came on away at Wednesday in the playoffs?

Super Col made much more of his time away on loan than VLP did last season. 

1 thing! 1 thing he ever did and he lived off it! VLP was injured while on loan or do you need to go read everything that was said about that.

[Million Dollar Babies]

Absolutely mental to only give him 5 minutes after how good he was the other night

Almost as mental as not going 2 up top but instead sticking Grant out wide. In the 94th minute the ball went in the box and Grant was 40 yards away from goal. Fecking ridiculous

[impact]

Aug 16, 2019 22:30:26 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

Absolutely mental to only give him 5 minutes after how good he was the other night

Almost as mental as not going 2 up top but instead sticking Grant out wide. In the 94th minute the ball went in the box and Grant was 40 yards away from goal. Fecking ridiculous

I don't think we had a shot after we scored. Not even one in anger. Horrendous.