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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 19, 2019 22:56:37 GMT 1
I worry about just how much this insistence on all youth sides playing the same way as the first team will have on the appointment.
It seems like as a club we think 433/4231 is the correct way to play because it worked for Wagner. All the younger sides have been playing this way along with an emphasis on keeping possession at all costs. Are we really going to appoint a 442 man like Hughton and rip up everthing that's been going on for the last 2-3 years? Unlikely even if it is the correct move for the here and now as far as the first team is concerned
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 22:58:54 GMT 1
Few outlets reporting we are looking at Dan petrescu I know we're short of a left back, but there must be someone younger about 😂 Exactly what we needed wasn’t he..Good on the ball, overlapping and putting in quality deliveries.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 23:02:21 GMT 1
I don't get some folk. Some people saying give it Hudson etc. Same people saying Jan wasn't experienced. JS is actually more experience than Hudson. From people around the club I know, Hudson is also a snake. Had a huge amount of respect when playing and captain, but since DW has left, Hudson has lost a lot of respect from people. It will be Jan the 2nd with Hudson on charge That’s a worry. I personally think the time is for a new fresh approach. We tried continuity but it didn’t work out. We need someone with a clear way of playing and a clear way of explaining it to the players.
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Post by Melc on Aug 19, 2019 23:10:56 GMT 1
What would everyone want if the following scenario happened... Hudson comes in as caretaker, plays a desirable team, formation and strong message of old gegenpress high intensity, possession and forward thinking football. Beats Cardiff, and beats Reading, with good solid dominant performances. it's a tough one. I know he's "inexperienced" but, he's played in this division for a large part of his career. played under Wagner, developed and coached under Wagner, as well as seeing differences with Jan Stewart. Would we want him in charge full-time? NO
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 19, 2019 23:11:50 GMT 1
I'd be massively surprised if Hudson for the job. He's terrible value in the betting market
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Post by basil on Aug 19, 2019 23:17:47 GMT 1
I've read contradictory reports that the new coach/manager will work with or under David Webb. It may seem a fine point but I think that it will impact on the quality of the applicants that we might expect.
It has been speculated that Webber left because he wanted to be senior to Wagner, but Wagner would not have it. How differently things might have turned out if we had been able to reconcile these two guys.
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Post by Melc on Aug 19, 2019 23:20:52 GMT 1
I worry about just how much this insistence on all youth sides playing the same way as the first team will have on the appointment. It seems like as a club we think 433/4231 is the correct way to play because it worked for Wagner. All the younger sides have been playing this way along with an emphasis on keeping possession at all costs. Are we really going to appoint a 442 man like Hughton and rip up everthing that's been going on for the last 2-3 years? Unlikely even if it is the correct move for the here and now as far as the first team is concerned According to this he does not play 442. Chris Hughton Date of Birth (Age): Dec 11, 1958 (60) Place of Birth: England Stratford Citizenship: Ireland Ireland Coaching Licence : UEFA Pro Licence Avg. term as manager : 2,10 Years Preferred formation : 4-1-4-1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 23:27:02 GMT 1
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 19, 2019 23:28:18 GMT 1
Yeah exactly. Anyone playing at those odds needs sectioning
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 19, 2019 23:32:53 GMT 1
I worry about just how much this insistence on all youth sides playing the same way as the first team will have on the appointment. It seems like as a club we think 433/4231 is the correct way to play because it worked for Wagner. All the younger sides have been playing this way along with an emphasis on keeping possession at all costs. Are we really going to appoint a 442 man like Hughton and rip up everthing that's been going on for the last 2-3 years? Unlikely even if it is the correct move for the here and now as far as the first team is concerned If it means we score more goals then rip it up. Whilst 4-2-3-1 was successful in terms of results for two years under Wagner, it was bloody boring to watch at times. Any system that can make our game more exciting and productive in the goals department will do for me.
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Post by willo on Aug 20, 2019 0:01:59 GMT 1
Put quite simply, Hughton is the best option out there if he’ll come. Bags of experience and a decent amount of success. Whether he would come is another question but I really hope we at least sound him out and put together a tempting package. He’s never out of work for very long and we need a manager now. Would love to see the club be proactive and make it happen. Hudson is a non-starter for me, essentially like for like. He may have to set his sights lower to get his chance in management and to be honest, the new manager wants to bring his own backroom staff with him and clear everyone connected to the previous era(s) out. We need a clean slate and to start again.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 20, 2019 8:17:43 GMT 1
If club wanted Hudson should have appointed him after king wagner got sacked. Not now. We need tried and tested although I do like huddy.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 20, 2019 8:20:13 GMT 1
Colin Bell 25/1 with the bookies. Would be a cheap option.
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Post by detox on Aug 20, 2019 8:38:49 GMT 1
Dan Petrescu ? Doing wonders at CFR Cluj ..have a Champions League play off tonight against Slavia Prague too...
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 20, 2019 9:15:47 GMT 1
If club wanted Hudson should have appointed him after king wagner got sacked. Not now. We need tried and tested although I do like huddy. We couldn’t appoint Hudson then. He didn’t have the appropriate qualifications to be a PL manager.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 20, 2019 9:20:39 GMT 1
I worry about just how much this insistence on all youth sides playing the same way as the first team will have on the appointment. It seems like as a club we think 433/4231 is the correct way to play because it worked for Wagner. All the younger sides have been playing this way along with an emphasis on keeping possession at all costs. Are we really going to appoint a 442 man like Hughton and rip up everthing that's been going on for the last 2-3 years? Unlikely even if it is the correct move for the here and now as far as the first team is concerned According to this he does not play 442. Chris Hughton Date of Birth (Age): Dec 11, 1958 (60) Place of Birth: England Stratford Citizenship: Ireland Ireland Coaching Licence : UEFA Pro Licence Avg. term as manager : 2,10 Years Preferred formation : 4-1-4-1 When I read his post I thought that too, Murray was on his own up front
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 20, 2019 9:24:50 GMT 1
if Hudson does well, why shouldn't he get the job? I hope he's applied for it.
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Post by basil on Aug 20, 2019 9:35:19 GMT 1
if Hudson does well, why shouldn't he get the job? I hope he's applied for it. The answer to that question is to be found at Old Trafford.
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Post by midlander on Aug 20, 2019 9:44:02 GMT 1
if Hudson does well, why shouldn't he get the job? I hope he's applied for it. The answer to that question is to be found at Old Trafford. Or, Bramall Lane?
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Aug 20, 2019 9:46:29 GMT 1
if Hudson does well, why shouldn't he get the job? I hope he's applied for it. The answer to that question is to be found at Old Trafford. Maybe Lampard shouldn't have applied for the Derby job? You have to be very careful with Rookies but they aren't always a failure.
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Post by basil on Aug 20, 2019 10:00:34 GMT 1
The answer to that question is to be found at Old Trafford. Maybe Lampard shouldn't have applied for the Derby job? You have to be very careful with Rookies but they aren't always a failure. I've no objection to Hudson as such, but having an audition in 'bounce' conditions can be misleading.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 20, 2019 12:03:25 GMT 1
According to this he does not play 442. Chris Hughton Date of Birth (Age): Dec 11, 1958 (60) Place of Birth: England Stratford Citizenship: Ireland Ireland Coaching Licence : UEFA Pro Licence Avg. term as manager : 2,10 Years Preferred formation : 4-1-4-1 When I read his post I thought that too, Murray was on his own up front In the Championship i remember them having Murray and Hemed up front together a lot of the time. Or baldock when he was fit
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 20, 2019 12:25:55 GMT 1
When I read his post I thought that too, Murray was on his own up front In the Championship i remember them having Murray and Hemed up front together a lot of the time. Or baldock when he was fit I seem to think it was one or the other
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 23, 2019 12:39:32 GMT 1
I'll go with my suggestion the other day.. Hannes Wolf.. Coached BVB II so he ticks that box, head coach of Stuttgart & Hamburg in 2.Bundesliga for 80 games combined, earning a promotion with Stuttgart as champions. Currently at 20/1 to be our next manager. Wish I'd have put a bet on a week ago 🤨
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Aug 25, 2019 0:15:51 GMT 1
One thing is for sure. PH and the board cannot wait until the very end of the international window to bring in our new man and coaching staff. They're going to need those 2 weeks to whip the team into shape, and have a bit of time to implement the basics, the philosophy, the identity and the standards into the players. No more excuses, no more confidence claims, just old fashioned outwork the opponents, out tackle them, create more chances and we will come good.
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Post by irverino on Aug 29, 2019 18:25:48 GMT 1
Maybe the 2 new bookies favorites LB & DC should be added to help the board make the right decision, if we are led to believe it is now a 2 horse race?.......or could a big win at Luton for MH put him back in the frame?
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Post by terriers2000 on Aug 29, 2019 18:30:19 GMT 1
Maybe the 2 new bookies favorites LB & DC should be added to help the board make the right decision, if we are led to believe it is now a 2 horse race?.......or could a big win at Luton for MH put him back in the frame? Hudson 5 years of being a manager = NO but probably with our chairman he will chose him if we lose on Saturday
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 29, 2019 18:47:46 GMT 1
we should be showing some ambition like l..ds did when they went for Bielsa.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 29, 2019 19:07:37 GMT 1
We should be kissing Jan's feet and his 2% win ratio.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 19:10:01 GMT 1
Maybe the 2 new bookies favorites LB & DC should be added to help the board make the right decision, if we are led to believe it is now a 2 horse race?.......or could a big win at Luton for MH put him back in the frame? Hudson 5 years of being a manager = NO but probably with our chairman he will chose him if we lose on Saturday He won't chose him if we win or lose on Saturday.
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