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Post by bogart on Aug 15, 2019 16:58:45 GMT 1
JS on Town site "“I took some positives out of the first two league games, we needed eight more minutes to win against QPR."
God was he watching the same game as me on Saturday?
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Post by dumbo on Aug 15, 2019 17:00:19 GMT 1
JS on Town site "“I took some positives out of the first two league games, we needed eight more minutes to win against QPR." God was he watching the same game as me on Saturday? He means we needed to hang on at 1-0 for 8 more minutes, not we would have scored in another 8 minutes. |
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Post by digs on Aug 15, 2019 17:01:15 GMT 1
we would of lost 3-1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 17:04:32 GMT 1
I'm not pro Siewert but these comments seem reasonable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 17:09:50 GMT 1
JS on Town site "“I took some positives out of the first two league games, we needed eight more minutes to win against QPR." God was he watching the same game as me on Saturday? He means we needed to hang on at 1-0 for 8 more minutes, not we would have scored in another 8 minutes. I do see a lot of anger/confusion from people applying a strict understanding of English wrapped on top of the speech of someone who, whilst having good understanding and command of the language, would likely fail an English Language GCSE. As fans we need to give him some leeway rather than analysing his every word I reckon....exactly the same as his post Lincoln interview, which is all very reasonable if you make a few leaps of faith at times as to what he was actually trying to say. In fact....having watched the post Lincoln clip in full, he actually gains a few more games to prove himself for me...would be very surprised if he was gone before the international break if at all. |
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Post by k1man999 on Aug 15, 2019 18:57:31 GMT 1
Not bothered what he says it's what he does ie getting the team out on the pitch to play in a cohesive drilled style of football, hopefully entertaining.
Bielsa and his translator come across as reet mupets in interviews but at least he's putting something out on the pitch.
Actions speaking louder than words.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 19:03:15 GMT 1
JS on Town site "“I took some positives out of the first two league games, we needed eight more minutes to win against QPR." God was he watching the same game as me on Saturday? He followed that comment with this. "Of course, in that game not everything was fine, I won’t defend any result". Which sort of puts it into a bit of context. |
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Post by terrierneil on Aug 15, 2019 20:44:11 GMT 1
8 minutes is a long time in a football game. Winning by a goal with 8 minutes left is not a fucking achievement!
This wanker is going to go down in HTFC history as the absolute worst.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 21:01:31 GMT 1
8 minutes is a long time in a football game. Winning by a goal with 8 minutes left is not a fucking achievement!This wanker is going to go down in HTFC history as the absolute worst. It is what Derby did and their supporters seemed quite pleased. |
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Post by specialun on Aug 15, 2019 21:03:03 GMT 1
8 minutes is a long time in a football game. Winning by a goal with 8 minutes left is not a fucking achievement! This wanker is going to go down in HTFC history as the absolute worst. How many times have we been in that position in the last 50+ games?! Step forward |
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Post by mallyb on Aug 15, 2019 21:20:55 GMT 1
8 minutes is a long time in a football game. Winning by a goal with 8 minutes left is not a fucking achievement! This wanker is going to go down in HTFC history as the absolute worst. Think it’s clear I am not a fan of Jan but not sure he makes the top 10 Of our worst managers |
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Post by tockyterrier on Aug 15, 2019 22:11:05 GMT 1
Why do people tubing we should have Won at QPR? A Good side with a good manager. Major changes since last season. I think a point there will look better as the season goes on.
Remember losing 4 nil to Bournemouth first game of the season a few years back? Turned out they were much better than we thought at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 22:19:08 GMT 1
JS on Town site "“I took some positives out of the first two league games, we needed eight more minutes to win against QPR." God was he watching the same game as me on Saturday? Hes on day release this bloke. Fuck me how strongs them diazepams |
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Post by benhomly on Aug 15, 2019 22:27:26 GMT 1
JS on Town site "“I took some positives out of the first two league games, we needed eight more minutes to win against QPR." God was he watching the same game as me on Saturday? Hes on day release this bloke. Fuck me how strongs them diazepamsNot very, gets knocked off the ball far too easily imo  |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 15, 2019 22:47:24 GMT 1
Why do people tubing we should have Won at QPR? A Good side with a good manager. Major changes since last season. I think a point there will look better as the season goes on. Remember losing 4 nil to Bournemouth first game of the season a few years back? Turned out they were much better than we thought at the time. I'll have a gentleman's wager with you . Derby and QPR to be bottom half |
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Post by terrierneil on Aug 15, 2019 23:03:07 GMT 1
8 minutes is a long time in a football game. Winning by a goal with 8 minutes left is not a fucking achievement!This wanker is going to go down in HTFC history as the absolute worst. It is what Derby did and their supporters seemed quite pleased. Silly bollocks. Did Derby let any goals in during that last 8 minutes? |
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Aug 15, 2019 23:09:20 GMT 1
8 minutes is a long time in a football game. Winning by a goal with 8 minutes left is not a fucking achievement! This wanker is going to go down in HTFC history as the absolute worst. I'd vote for him to leave, but don't understand why you feel Jan is a "wanker". He's a human being doing his best. Not necessarily his fault if he doesn't have the ability to do the job. |
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Post by zoso on Aug 15, 2019 23:31:18 GMT 1
Tuesday night was the defining game for me, I think he's way out of his depth.
But the personal abuse towards him is just crass in my opinion, no need for it.
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Post by willo on Aug 15, 2019 23:34:53 GMT 1
8 minutes is a long time in a football game. Winning by a goal with 8 minutes left is not a fucking achievement! This wanker is going to go down in HTFC history as the absolute worst. I'd vote for him to leave, but don't understand why you feel Jan is a "wanker". He's a human being doing his best. Not necessarily his fault if he doesn't have the ability to do the job. Think I know who the real wanker is here & it ain’t Jan. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 1:16:22 GMT 1
It is what Derby did and their supporters seemed quite pleased. Silly bollocks. Did Derby let any goals in during that last 8 minutes? No. That’s the point Jan is making....”we were 8 minutes away from winning”...ie if we hadn’t conceded in the last 8 minutes (like Derby), we’d have collected 3 points instead of the 1. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 1:21:13 GMT 1
Tuesday night was the defining game for me, I think he's way out of his depth. But the personal abuse towards him is just crass in my opinion, no need for it. This is a common mistake. Watch Bacunas interview pre Fulham. He’s played in all three games, but doesn’t even consider the Lincoln match as existing as a competitive fixture. It wasnt a game, it was a run out for a load of second string players. He speaks about things not going for us in the two games so far this season. Tuesday means nothing. He may well be out of his depth but I don’t think we know that yet...a poor performance v Derby and a half decent point away at QPR does not equal a sacrifice. (Agree on your other point). |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Aug 16, 2019 1:42:04 GMT 1
Why do people tubing we should have Won at QPR? A Good side with a good manager. Major changes since last season. I think a point there will look better as the season goes on. Remember losing 4 nil to Bournemouth first game of the season a few years back? Turned out they were much better than we thought at the time. I'll have a gentleman's wager with you . Derby and QPR to be bottom half I'll take that bet Ted. Well, Derby will not be bottom half, QPR will. How about a pint should we ever meet up. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Aug 16, 2019 8:49:40 GMT 1
Why do people tubing we should have Won at QPR? A Good side with a good manager. Major changes since last season. I think a point there will look better as the season goes on. Remember losing 4 nil to Bournemouth first game of the season a few years back? Turned out they were much better than we thought at the time. Its not the result though is it. Its the 3 completely disjointed performances in which we've been 2nd best and lacked any cohesion, pressing, work rate or control. All of the back of having an 8 month pre-season of competitive games in which we also lacked any plan or cohesion. Had we looked decent at QPR and only taken a point down to poor set piece defending then fair enough. Had we been the better side against Lincoln but lost in a complete smash and grab then fair enough. Neither is true. |
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Post by tockyterrier on Aug 16, 2019 9:11:36 GMT 1
I'll have a gentleman's wager with you . Derby and QPR to be bottom half I'll take that bet Ted. Well, Derby will not be bottom half, QPR will. How about a pint should we ever meet up. Im not a gambling man. But yes I believe both will finish top half this year. So I'll stand by that view. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 9:14:46 GMT 1
8 minutes is a long time in a football game. Winning by a goal with 8 minutes left is not a fucking achievement! This wanker is going to go down in HTFC history as the absolute worst. Think it’s clear I am not a fan of Jan but not sure he makes the top 10 Of our worst managers Top 10!? He’s top 3 all day long. Possibly the worst. Stan ternnant signed Gary Roberts so Jan is behind him. |
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Post by terrierneil on Aug 16, 2019 11:27:52 GMT 1
Silly bollocks. Did Derby let any goals in during that last 8 minutes? No. That’s the point Jan is making....”we were 8 minutes away from winning”...ie if we hadn’t conceded in the last 8 minutes (like Derby), we’d have collected 3 points instead of the 1. I know what point Jan is making. My point is what fucking relevance does it have to anything? Bayern Munich were winning in the 1999 European Final at one point....did they get a trophy? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 16, 2019 11:31:38 GMT 1
I'll take that bet Ted. Well, Derby will not be bottom half, QPR will. How about a pint should we ever meet up. Im not a gambling man. But yes I believe both will finish top half this year. So I'll stand by that view. It can be a friendly online no cash involved wager;-) |
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 16, 2019 11:45:25 GMT 1
Im not a gambling man. But yes I believe both will finish top half this year. So I'll stand by that view. It can be a friendly online no cash involved wager;-) You could have an avatar bet. Whoever loses has to use an avatar proposed by the winner for a set period (anything to get rid of the Jocky Wilson abomination). |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 16, 2019 12:39:34 GMT 1
It can be a friendly online no cash involved wager;-) You could have an avatar bet. Whoever loses has to use an avatar proposed by the winner for a set period (anything to get rid of the Jocky Wilson abomination). I'll get rid of jocky over the weekend mate |
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Post by stanton1969 on Aug 16, 2019 12:54:09 GMT 1
Silly bollocks. Did Derby let any goals in during that last 8 minutes? No. That’s the point Jan is making....”we were 8 minutes away from winning”...ie if we hadn’t conceded in the last 8 minutes (like Derby), we’d have collected 3 points instead of the 1. We did concede, though. The game isn't played over 82 minutes. I don't get the rationale behind these pointless statements. The goal had been coming for about half an hour before they finally got it. And no-one could have complained if QPR had gone on to win. We were lucky to get a point. Scraping the bottom of the barrel for positives, if you ask me. And all I can see now is that if he says the words win/winning enough times it will miraculously happen. Anyone can do that. It's what the game is all about isn't it? It's fine to talk about desired outcomes to point. What about the way you achieve them? Fight? yeah....that's one he's mentioned. I'd expect a bit of that. Tactics? Approach? Hmmmmm..........not so much from Jan. He doesn't have a scooby IMO. |
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