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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 22:49:17 GMT 1
HTFC has existed long before Dean Hoyle! Ffs..my best years watching Town was at Leeds road seeing us win the 4th division title and further promotions under Mick Buxton I understand some of you lot just don't get it!! The club doesn't exist without us the supporters... collectively we are the club's biggest investors!... without us the club is nothing! None of us expect anything back and neither should he! You're like one of those employees that thinks business stuff belongs to you as much as it belongs to your employer.
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Post by King Neil on Aug 17, 2019 22:52:15 GMT 1
Your football team is like the love of your life
Think of it as spending money on your girlfriend... they give you immense pleasure at times!
But would you ask for all the money back you spent on them when you fell out of love with them??
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Post by terrier2019 on Aug 17, 2019 22:52:20 GMT 1
want we told few weeks ago that we ad to sell to buy?.we then sold smith the billing combined 19 mill then we was told few weeks after that we couldnt bring anybody in until one 1st team squad went mooy left we brought chalobah in on loan.we got loan fee for mooy and now zankas left.wheres the money gone.where told where skint after our stint in premier league wheres the money gone.phil how did you finance your takeover of the club.until these questions are answered i wont trust you to be the man to take us forward
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 17, 2019 23:07:43 GMT 1
want we told few weeks ago that we ad to sell to buy?.we then sold smith the billing combined 19 mill then we was told few weeks after that we couldnt bring anybody in until one 1st team squad went mooy left we brought chalobah in on loan.we got loan fee for mooy and now zankas left.wheres the money gone.where told where skint after our stint in premier league wheres the money gone.phil how did you finance your takeover of the club.until these questions are answered i wont trust you to be the man to take us forward As of the last accounts the club owe DH £49m - see this examiner article from March this year www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/huddersfield-town-accounts-last-season-16039119So unless DH has written that off it has to be repaid I have zero issue with DH taking his money back either
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 23:08:08 GMT 1
My investment in the club this season is 600 quid!! 2 X season tickets and 2 replica shirts Am I ok at the end season to say to Phil.. eyup Phil can I have all the money back I have ploughed into the club over the last 40 year's?? My point is we as fans are all Investors in the club!..yes small ones but still investors,..an NONE of us take anything back!!! Pure fucking greedy!! I don’t think you understand the word “investment” ?!
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Post by terrier2019 on Aug 17, 2019 23:17:11 GMT 1
want we told few weeks ago that we ad to sell to buy?.we then sold smith the billing combined 19 mill then we was told few weeks after that we couldnt bring anybody in until one 1st team squad went mooy left we brought chalobah in on loan.we got loan fee for mooy and now zankas left.wheres the money gone.where told where skint after our stint in premier league wheres the money gone.phil how did you finance your takeover of the club.until these questions are answered i wont trust you to be the man to take us forward As of the last accounts the club owe DH £49m - see this examiner article from March this year www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/huddersfield-town-accounts-last-season-16039119So unless DH has written that off it has to be repaid I have zero issue with DH taking his money back either not do i.bit wheres the money gone from the transfers??
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Post by Wingman on Aug 17, 2019 23:17:29 GMT 1
HTFC has existed long before Dean Hoyle! Ffs..my best years watching Town was at Leeds road seeing us win the 4th division title and further promotions under Mick Buxton I understand some of you lot just don't get it!! The club doesn't exist without us the supporters... collectively we are the club's biggest investors!... without us the club is nothing! None of us expect anything back and neither should he! Annnd another one to add to the ‘ignore because they spout shite’ list. If you’d pumped X million into your club, survived a serious illness but had the chance to get your money back - over time or immediately - you’d be a liar to say you wouldn’t take it. Deano has kids to consider, their futures, his own. What business is it of YOURS, or MINE if he takes his cash back? Your thousands put into the club is a pittance compared to his millions, and I would wager 99.9% of real fans would be happy for him to take his money back. He’s earnt that right by taking us on a journey we never believed possible.
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Post by King Neil on Aug 17, 2019 23:18:20 GMT 1
Like you don't understand the word greedy
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 17, 2019 23:24:28 GMT 1
not do i.bit wheres the money gone from the transfers?? Reading that article it explains that transfer costs are paid over several years. So for example we’ll still be paying part of the mounie transfer this year I agree the transfer business this summer has been woeful in terms of first team ready options and honestly I think we’d have been far better going for 5 loanees (instead of two) which doesn’t burden us with wages next season but provides real competitive now Players like Izzy brown going to Luton or Dijon sterling to Wigan would have been sensible signings IMO
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 23:26:42 GMT 1
Like you don't understand the word greedy Are entering the competition for idiot of the season?
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Post by Wingman on Aug 17, 2019 23:41:45 GMT 1
Like you don't understand the word greedy Are entering the competition for idiot of the season? Quite a strong field this time.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 17, 2019 23:43:14 GMT 1
Like you don't understand the word greedy As I said, youre the one being greedy, not dean hoyle.
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Post by King Neil on Aug 17, 2019 23:49:17 GMT 1
HTFC has existed long before Dean Hoyle! Ffs..my best years watching Town was at Leeds road seeing us win the 4th division title and further promotions under Mick Buxton I understand some of you lot just don't get it!! The club doesn't exist without us the supporters... collectively we are the club's biggest investors!... without us the club is nothing! None of us expect anything back and neither should he! Annnd another one to add to the ‘ignore because they spout shite’ list. If you’d pumped X million into your club, survived a serious illness but had the chance to get your money back - over time or immediately - you’d be a liar to say you wouldn’t take it. Deano has kids to consider, their futures, his own. What business is it of YOURS, or MINE if he takes his cash back? Your thousands put into the club is a pittance compared to his millions, and I would wager 99.9% of real fans would be happy for him to take his money back. He’s earnt that right by taking us on a journey we never believed possible. I'll call you Mr deluded!! Kid's to consider 😂 He's worth hundreds of millions...he couldn't spend it in 10 lifetimes if he tried He's no better than Karl oyston imo
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Post by King Neil on Aug 17, 2019 23:54:59 GMT 1
And before you start carping on about serious illness.... I've been clear of bladder cancer for nearly 4 year's now
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Post by Macduff on Aug 18, 2019 0:00:00 GMT 1
Do you always ask for your money back at the cinema as the film stars already have more money than they need? You appear to be a bit of a sad individual, maybe a bit jealous of Hoyles wealth. Your logic defies logic. UTT
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Post by King Neil on Aug 18, 2019 0:15:30 GMT 1
My logic is
Fan gets wealthy and buys the football club he loves
He then spends a small amount of his vast fortune on the club he loves/supports
The Town rally around him and support his vision of the club and fill the stadium
The club get lucky and reach the premier League and even survive the first season and finally have serious wealth
The owner gets cold feet and see's a way out by taking all the money out the club's new found wealth and eventually returning it to the state in which he found it!
Then we all sing his praises and say what a wonderful guy he and live happily ever after!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 0:19:36 GMT 1
My logic is Fan gets wealthy and buys the football club he loves He then spends a small amount of his vast fortune on the club he loves/supports The Town rally around him and support his vision of the club and fill the stadium The club get lucky and reach the premier League and even survive the first season and finally have serious wealth The owner gets cold feet and see's a way out by taking all the money out the club's new found wealth and eventually returning it to the state in which he found it! Then we all sing his praises and say what a wonderful guy he and live happily ever after!! My mistake, you're clearly entering the competition for moronic pillock of the season!
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Aug 18, 2019 0:23:09 GMT 1
Your football team is like the love of your life Think of it as spending money on your girlfriend... they give you immense pleasure at times! But would you ask for all the money back you spent on them when you fell out of love with them?? That would vary as to whether you had spent the money on them or whether you had lent them some money to enable your girlfriend to achieve things in life above and beyond her wildest dreams without the money you had lent, or paid you back once she was earning enough money after you had lent her money to achieve her dreams and get to a point of earning some income. Ridiculous examples I know but on par with the comparison of supporter/fan by choice and chairman/owner being the same thing in terms of financial involvement/responsibilities
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Aug 18, 2019 0:24:59 GMT 1
Also at this stage it is only hearsay/rumour that Dean has taken back the money he has personally put into the club.
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Post by dewsburyborn on Aug 18, 2019 0:26:29 GMT 1
Interesting detail re the Mooy new contract; I wonder - had Mooy actually signed the contract - which may have included a clause allowing him to pursue any PL interest in him - or did it become a stipulation of him going out on loan to BHA that he sign the new contract to protect us from him leaving at the end of the remaining one year on his old contract ? I guess we may never know. PH expected Aaron Mooy to move in the summer or early part of the window for same reasons as us , he is a quality player - as mentioned earlier he had Dowell lined up as his replacement. As it got well in to the window no official approach or maybe acceptable bid had been made so PH called Aaron personally and made him the offer to stay at Town. PH went to great lengths to say just how great and good Aaron Mooy was as a person and how much Aaron stressed he loved it at the Town , his attitude was tremendous at all times. The new contract in wages was a club record and Aaron was happy to verbally accept it , no contract was signed but it was verbally agreed. Aaron then changed agents and his new agent was obviously actively seeking him a move back in to the premier league , the day after the Derby defeat Aaron came to see PH to tell him about the Brighton offer - Aaron was very apologetic and stated it was all about continuing to play in the premier league. PH now had to do what as best for HTFC and to be fair he commended Aaron Mooy in assisting him to do the best for Town with the situation as it was. Aaron contract ran out at the end of the season so they discussed holding each other to the contract and Aaron leaving for free at the end of the season - both agreed not to do this , Aaron could have been totally selfish and held out for this - PH was very complimentary toward Aaron for not doing this. in the end two very decent people did a deal that works for everyone , win , win - but this could only be done by two people who liked and respected each other. PH asked Aaron if he would sign a 3 year contract , this would enable Town to get a decent fee if the move was a success however PH negotiated and Aaron was happy to accept a call back option on Aaron in January if Aaron is not playing first team football at Brighton. This is the deal and to be fair to PH it is a excellent one for Town case Aaron could have easily run down his contract , of course we would have had him this season but let's be honest Aaron would have been making sure he did not get injured. Good deal done I think. Thank you for the detailed and informative reply to my query. Good work from both men.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 0:29:02 GMT 1
Also at this stage it is only hearsay/rumour that Dean has taken back the money he has personally put into the club. Exactly, a guessing game where nobody really has a scooby do.
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Post by Wingman on Aug 18, 2019 0:29:58 GMT 1
Annnd another one to add to the ‘ignore because they spout shite’ list. If you’d pumped X million into your club, survived a serious illness but had the chance to get your money back - over time or immediately - you’d be a liar to say you wouldn’t take it. Deano has kids to consider, their futures, his own. What business is it of YOURS, or MINE if he takes his cash back? Your thousands put into the club is a pittance compared to his millions, and I would wager 99.9% of real fans would be happy for him to take his money back. He’s earnt that right by taking us on a journey we never believed possible. I'll call you Mr deluded!! Kid's to consider 😂 He's worth hundreds of millions...he couldn't spend it in 10 lifetimes if he tried He's no better than Karl oyston imo Comparing Dean Hoyle to Oyston classifies you as a stand-out fool. Good to hear you beat the big C though, fair play on that.
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Aug 18, 2019 0:33:17 GMT 1
When you read 'took his money back' - doesnt that mean he just sold it for market value ?
If I buy a house - live in it and pay a mortgage on it for 10 years - then sell it - I'm not taking my money back, I'm just selling it at market value.
If it has gone up in value great - if it hasn't I take a loss.
Dean Hoyle just happened to sell at a good time for him. No worries.
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Post by King Neil on Aug 18, 2019 0:35:27 GMT 1
Not being funny buy when you say beyond your wildest dreams
Bit of perspective here...the year I was born 1969 Town was on the way to winning the second division title under Ian Greaves... Town have played top flight football before in my lifetime
The person I sit by at matches was a teenager at the time and enjoyed watching town in the top division and seeing best Charlton and law at Leeds road
Yes it's great what Dean did for the club but lot's of town fans still watching have seen good times before him!... he's no Messiah!
Now if you're a believer of he who giveth can take away then fair enough
If you can't see what he is doing is undoing all the good he did then fair enough!...I rest my case
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Aug 18, 2019 0:44:53 GMT 1
I suppose the talk of success and good times is all relative to the individual and era but regardless of what has occurred in the 60s, 70s, 80s etc town going from 9th in league one to the safety in year one of the premier league is up there with most as greatest or most unlikely at very least in most town fans standings of achievements, as due to financial imbalance if nothing else we should have been nowhere near the premier league and certainly shouldn’t of stayed up and I do personally believe without Hoyle taking over when he did and the drive he had from a town fans point of view and financial commitment made it happen. I do think yr fishing/on the wind up or a disgruntled employer of card factory.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 0:45:37 GMT 1
Not being funny buy when you say beyond your wildest dreams Bit of perspective here...the year I was born 1969 Town was on the way to winning the second division title under Ian Greaves... Town have played top flight football before in my lifetime The person I sit by at matches was a teenager at the time and enjoyed watching town in the top division and seeing best Charlton and law at Leeds road Yes it's great what Dean did for the club but lot's of town fans still watching have seen good times before him!... he's no Messiah! Now if you're a believer of he who giveth can take away then fair enough If you can't see what he is doing is undoing all the good he did then fair enough!...I rest my case Please show any evidence you can of what you say he's doing. PS. i'm no doubt older than you and remember 1959 very well never mind 1969..
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Post by canuckterrier on Aug 18, 2019 0:53:19 GMT 1
Interesting detail re the Mooy new contract; I wonder - had Mooy actually signed the contract - which may have included a clause allowing him to pursue any PL interest in him - or did it become a stipulation of him going out on loan to BHA that he sign the new contract to protect us from him leaving at the end of the remaining one year on his old contract ? I guess we may never know. PH expected Aaron Mooy to move in the summer or early part of the window for same reasons as us , he is a quality player - as mentioned earlier he had Dowell lined up as his replacement. As it got well in to the window no official approach or maybe acceptable bid had been made so PH called Aaron personally and made him the offer to stay at Town. PH went to great lengths to say just how great and good Aaron Mooy was as a person and how much Aaron stressed he loved it at the Town , his attitude was tremendous at all times. The new contract in wages was a club record and Aaron was happy to verbally accept it , no contract was signed but it was verbally agreed. Aaron then changed agents and his new agent was obviously actively seeking him a move back in to the premier league , the day after the Derby defeat Aaron came to see PH to tell him about the Brighton offer - Aaron was very apologetic and stated it was all about continuing to play in the premier league. PH now had to do what as best for HTFC and to be fair he commended Aaron Mooy in assisting him to do the best for Town with the situation as it was. Aaron contract ran out at the end of the season so they discussed holding each other to the contract and Aaron leaving for free at the end of the season - both agreed not to do this , Aaron could have been totally selfish and held out for this - PH was very complimentary toward Aaron for not doing this. in the end two very decent people did a deal that works for everyone , win , win - but this could only be done by two people who liked and respected each other. PH asked Aaron if he would sign a 3 year contract , this would enable Town to get a decent fee if the move was a success however PH negotiated and Aaron was happy to accept a call back option on Aaron in January if Aaron is not playing first team football at Brighton. This is the deal and to be fair to PH it is a excellent one for Town case Aaron could have easily run down his contract , of course we would have had him this season but let's be honest Aaron would have been making sure he did not get injured. Good deal done I think. It would be interesting to know what the loan fee was. Let’s say Mooy’s value is between 9m and 15m. If Brighton had bought him and gave him a normal 3 year contract, that would average out to costing them 3-5m a year plus salary. If the fee is less than that then they got a decent deal.
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Post by willo on Aug 18, 2019 1:03:05 GMT 1
And before you start carping on about serious illness.... I've been clear of bladder cancer for nearly 4 year's now Shame bout that cos we wouldn’t have had to read all your bile.
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Post by canuckterrier on Aug 18, 2019 1:10:14 GMT 1
It would be interesting to know what the loan fee was. Let’s say Mooy’s value is between 9m and 15m. If Brighton had bought him and gave him a normal 3 year contract, that would average out to costing them 3-5m a year plus salary. If the fee is less than that then they got a decent deal. 6 Figure loan fee I believe, less than a million. I didn’t realize they had announced it. If that actually is the case then I’ll replace ‘decent deal’ with incredible deal. Anyway,, all the best to him, he was a joy to watch. And here’s hoping he plays well and increases his value.
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Post by zoso on Aug 18, 2019 1:19:39 GMT 1
Annnd another one to add to the ‘ignore because they spout shite’ list. If you’d pumped X million into your club, survived a serious illness but had the chance to get your money back - over time or immediately - you’d be a liar to say you wouldn’t take it. Deano has kids to consider, their futures, his own. What business is it of YOURS, or MINE if he takes his cash back? Your thousands put into the club is a pittance compared to his millions, and I would wager 99.9% of real fans would be happy for him to take his money back. He’s earnt that right by taking us on a journey we never believed possible. I'll call you Mr deluded!! Kid's to consider 😂 He's worth hundreds of millions...he couldn't spend it in 10 lifetimes if he tried He's no better than Karl oyston imo It's still his money. You're actually comparing Dean Hoyle to Oysten?
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