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Post by zoso on Aug 18, 2019 1:31:30 GMT 1
Also at this stage it is only hearsay/rumour that Dean has taken back the money he has personally put into the club. Exactly, a guessing game where nobody really has a scooby do. Don't you just love the idiots who post utter crud and try and pass it off as fact? Truth is nobody knows, and personally, I don't care.....in Dean we trust!  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 7:58:31 GMT 1
6 Figure loan fee I believe, less than a million. I didn’t realize they had announced it. If that actually is the case then I’ll replace ‘decent deal’ with incredible deal. Anyway,, all the best to him, he was a joy to watch. And here’s hoping he plays well and increases his value. I t was announced as a 'six figure' deal. |
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Post by yoy on Aug 18, 2019 8:41:10 GMT 1
My investment in the club this season is 600 quid!! 2 X season tickets and 2 replica shirts Am I ok at the end season to say to Phil.. eyup Phil can I have all the money back I have ploughed into the club over the last 40 year's?? My point is we as fans are all Investors in the club!..yes small ones but still investors,..an NONE of us take anything back!!! Pure fucking greedy!! Two points: 1. You are paying for a service. Not the same thing. 2. You have no idea what the terms of the deal are. There’s been nothing that says what Dean gets back and no accounts produced since. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 8:54:41 GMT 1
My investment in the club this season is 600 quid!! 2 X season tickets and 2 replica shirts Am I ok at the end season to say to Phil.. eyup Phil can I have all the money back I have ploughed into the club over the last 40 year's?? My point is we as fans are all Investors in the club!..yes small ones but still investors,..an NONE of us take anything back!!! Pure fucking greedy!! Two points: 1. You are paying for a service. Not the same thing. 2. You have no idea what the terms of the deal are. There’s been nothing that says what Dean gets back and no accounts produced since. People are hurting. And when people are hurt they say stupid things |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 18, 2019 9:13:29 GMT 1
HTFC has existed long before Dean Hoyle! Ffs..my best years watching Town was at Leeds road seeing us win the 4th division title and further promotions under Mick Buxton I understand some of you lot just don't get it!! The club doesn't exist without us the supporters... collectively we are the club's biggest investors!... without us the club is nothing! None of us expect anything back and neither should he! It's two totally different things, him pumping in millions and you paying to do your hobby. I must confess that I didn't expect him to be taking his loans immediately, so if he is, which I don't think we know is actually the case, that would be disappointing, as he would likely know it will give us cash flow issues. If he takes it back in whole or part, over a reasonable period of time, having got us to the Prem, I have no issue with that at all. Nor would any reasonable person. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 9:21:06 GMT 1
Two points: 1. You are paying for a service. Not the same thing. 2. You have no idea what the terms of the deal are. There’s been nothing that says what Dean gets back and no accounts produced since. People are hurting. And when people are hurt they say stupid things True in many life situations...for me at least. |
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Aug 18, 2019 9:25:00 GMT 1
What I don't understand is how DH is being paid back, given PH is skint. If it's via the parachute payments, why didn't DH retain ownership and collect that money himself.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 9:29:49 GMT 1
What I don't understand is how DH is being paid back, given PH is skint. If it's via the parachute payments, why didn't DH retain ownership and collect that money himself. How do you know anything about how and how much dean is being paid back ? How do you know Phil is skint? Why do people get hung up speculating about things they know nowt about ? |
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Post by jasrick on Aug 18, 2019 9:32:20 GMT 1
What I don't understand is how DH is being paid back, given PH is skint. If it's via the parachute payments, why didn't DH retain ownership and collect that money himself. As has been said, all guess work and nobody really knows but, on the assumption that that is what’s happening, I suppose the reason not to retain ownership would be because all this fall out we’re seeing on here from us spending less than a million quid this summer would result in questions being flung DH’s way rather than PH’s. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 18, 2019 9:35:19 GMT 1
My logic is Fan gets wealthy and buys the football club he loves He then spends a small amount of his vast fortune on the club he loves/supports The Town rally around him and support his vision of the club and fill the stadium The club get lucky and reach the premier League and even survive the first season and finally have serious wealth The owner gets cold feet and see's a way out by taking all the money out the club's new found wealth and eventually returning it to the state in which he found it! Then we all sing his praises and say what a wonderful guy he and live happily ever after!! Im not sure you have much logic to be honest. Firstly, and this is clear, you have no idea how much wealth Dean Hoyle has. The fact you think hes spent a small percentage of it on Town shows you are pretty clueless in that respect. If you really don;t think you owe dean hoyle anything for the past decade hes given all us town fans, including the extremely low prices hes asked from us to watch it, then aswell as displaying some pretty ugly character flaws, what youre basically saying is you don;t care how the team does. Youd be just as happy watching the L1 and 2 crap we would have been were it not for Dean Hoyle. So what do you care about Town finances?!! The worst that can happen is we drop down the divisions again... something youre more than happy to watch rather than have the class to appreciate the guy who gave you something vastly better to watch. Oh and youd be paying a lot more than £600 for your 2 season tickets and shirts of course. 'Give my hobby your money and don;t expect it back'... and you think hes the one being greedy!! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 10:31:11 GMT 1
What I don't understand is how DH is being paid back, given PH is skint. If it's via the parachute payments, why didn't DH retain ownership and collect that money himself. How do you know anything about how and how much dean is being paid back ? How do you know Phil is skint? Why do people get hung up speculating about things they know nowt about ? they don't know chips none of us do but on the mooy deal between them ph and mooy came to a good agreement. As I say there are questions to ask but once this last few days settle down the club will move on and address the all situation.utt |
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Aug 18, 2019 10:44:02 GMT 1
What I don't understand is how DH is being paid back, given PH is skint. If it's via the parachute payments, why didn't DH retain ownership and collect that money himself. How do you know anything about how and how much dean is being paid back ? How do you know Phil is skint? Why do people get hung up speculating about things they know nowt about ? Nothing wrong at all in speculating how ownership of the club has been structured, given this affects the long term future, stability and security of the club. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 10:56:57 GMT 1
My investment in the club this season is 600 quid!! 2 X season tickets and 2 replica shirts Am I ok at the end season to say to Phil.. eyup Phil can I have all the money back I have ploughed into the club over the last 40 year's?? My point is we as fans are all Investors in the club!..yes small ones but still investors,..an NONE of us take anything back!!! Pure fucking greedy!! Hell’s teeth! San Miguel owe me a fortune!! I never knew that buying things meant the same as investing in them. |
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Post by royrace on Aug 18, 2019 11:00:35 GMT 1
We don't know anything about the deal, not even what the sale price was approximately.
Nobody knows how much Phil is worth, people think not much and nowhere near enough to be able to afford a club of Towns current stature, he hints its much more than people think.
The club has just spent 2 years in the promised land making over £100M per season and now has > £40M per season to look forward to over the next 3 years. Despite this we made a ridiculous managerial appointment (presumably cheap) and purchased players in the summer that we'd have disappointed with in 2016.
For the reasons above questions are understandably being asked, it will continue until people get answers or until the club starts operating in a way that reflects its current stature (in the opinion of the fans).
Seems to me its a complicated deal which involves the clubs outgoings (and debt?) being reduced very quickly, I would imagine the target will be to stabilise in the champ and get back to a similar position we were in pre Wagner. Probably all very sensible but not exactly exciting or what most of us were expecting 2 years in the premier league would have brought. Particularly since we didn't exactly go at it gung ho.
Hopefully the bigger crowds will stick around for a while but it wouldn't surprise me if they end up worse than they were.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 18, 2019 11:49:10 GMT 1
Like you don't understand the word greedy Are entering the competition for idiot of the season? No, he's won hands down 🤣 |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 18, 2019 11:50:50 GMT 1
Annnd another one to add to the ‘ignore because they spout shite’ list. If you’d pumped X million into your club, survived a serious illness but had the chance to get your money back - over time or immediately - you’d be a liar to say you wouldn’t take it. Deano has kids to consider, their futures, his own. What business is it of YOURS, or MINE if he takes his cash back? Your thousands put into the club is a pittance compared to his millions, and I would wager 99.9% of real fans would be happy for him to take his money back. He’s earnt that right by taking us on a journey we never believed possible. I'll call you Mr deluded!! Kid's to consider 😂 He's worth hundreds of millions...he couldn't spend it in 10 lifetimes if he tried He's no better than Karl oyston imo LEEDS FAN ALERT !! No Town fan can be this much of a dickhead |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 18, 2019 16:42:47 GMT 1
Also at this stage it is only hearsay/rumour that Dean has taken back the money he has personally put into the club. Surely a case here of business man first --- town fan second -- and deserves everything he has made especially looking at what he has gone through health wise Its now down top Phil to do the same and hopefully without health problems The club should have a sign outside similar to whats on fag packets ie supporting Huddersfield Town can seriously damage your health |
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Post by cab65 on Aug 18, 2019 18:22:31 GMT 1
Deans been a god send to this club .We all hope phil will be too .utt
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 18, 2019 18:35:05 GMT 1
Also at this stage it is only hearsay/rumour that Dean has taken back the money he has personally put into the club. Surely a case here of business man first --- town fan second -- and deserves everything he has made especially looking at what he has gone through health wise Its now down top Phil to do the same and hopefully without health problems The club should have a sign outside similar to whats on fag packets ie supporting Huddersfield Town can seriously damage your health If he was a businessman first, he wouldn;t have touched Town with a bargepole back in 2008. That was very much the action of a Town fan first and foremost. It took something pretty spectacular and totally unexpected for him retrieving any of his financial input to even be a option. |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Aug 18, 2019 18:44:59 GMT 1
I get the impression the 3 window transfer trajectory is to keep those we want to keep and have the right and proper attitude for Huddersfield Town and the results we want hence Hogg signing new and I guess improved contract - offering Mooy a stunning contract but also to take out those that don't have the right attitude and only want what's best for them ...... It takes time hence the 3 window strategy which I understand can be taken out of context but I feel was a transparent dialogue to have with the fans albeit possibly too open , maybe ...... Easy in hindsight but at least Phil talks to us .....lets not loose this openness .
You won't get very far here speaking good common sense like that!
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Aug 18, 2019 18:46:34 GMT 1
Also at this stage it is only hearsay/rumour that Dean has taken back the money he has personally put into the club. Surely a case here of business man first --- town fan second -- and deserves everything he has made especially looking at what he has gone through health wise Its now down top Phil to do the same and hopefully without health problems The club should have a sign outside similar to whats on fag packets ie supporting Huddersfield Town can seriously damage your health
Surely that should read: supporting Huddersfield Town can seriously damage your wealth ?  |
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Aug 18, 2019 18:47:51 GMT 1
There was a guy "so called Town fan" in my local earlier slagging off Dean Hoyle he was lucky he did not get chinned. How can anyone slag DH off after all that the man has done over the last 10 years, these part time so called supporters should wont be there if we get relegated this year or when ever.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 18:49:36 GMT 1
Surely a case here of business man first --- town fan second -- and deserves everything he has made especially looking at what he has gone through health wise Its now down top Phil to do the same and hopefully without health problems The club should have a sign outside similar to whats on fag packets ie supporting Huddersfield Town can seriously damage your healthSurely that should read: supporting Huddersfield Town can seriously damage your wealth ? Compare season ticket prices with some of our neighbours.  |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Aug 18, 2019 18:54:56 GMT 1
Surely that should read: supporting Huddersfield Town can seriously damage your wealth ? Compare season ticket prices with some of our neighbours.
good point, but that only partially offsets the cost of flights to watch the games!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 19:01:38 GMT 1
Compare season ticket prices with some of our neighbours. good point, but that only partially offsets the cost of flights to watch the games!
And my train ticket to Luton.  |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 18, 2019 19:39:39 GMT 1
Surely that should read: supporting Huddersfield Town can seriously damage your wealth ? Compare season ticket prices with some of our neighbours. you'll find they are bloody expensive if you compare the freebies at VP |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 20:31:41 GMT 1
Compare season ticket prices with some of our neighbours. you'll find they are bloody expensive if you compare the freebies at VP They should pay you to enter VeryPoor. |
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Post by mickydombat on Aug 18, 2019 20:42:50 GMT 1
It now seems obvious that due to Dean's illness Wagner was aware club would be 'sold' Therefore no money would be available all the best players would be sold and there would be a pittance spent. In comes Siewert and Hodgkinson and that's the situation. All the high earning players want out and we have the current unhealthy situation. The way forward is to admit this and we can all move on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 20:53:48 GMT 1
It now seems obvious that due to Dean's illness Wagner was aware club would be 'sold' Therefore no money would be available all the best players would be sold and there would be a pittance spent. In comes Siewert and Hodgkinson and that's the situation. All the high earning players want out and we have the current unhealthy situation. The way forward is to admit this and we can all move on. Wagner told Dean he wanted out BEFORE Deans illness.... That means there is nothing to admit. We still move on! |
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Post by mrbluesky on Aug 18, 2019 21:09:26 GMT 1
It now seems obvious that due to Dean's illness Wagner was aware club would be 'sold' Therefore no money would be available all the best players would be sold and there would be a pittance spent. In comes Siewert and Hodgkinson and that's the situation. All the high earning players want out and we have the current unhealthy situation. The way forward is to admit this and we can all move on. Nope |
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