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Post by Essex Terrier on Aug 22, 2019 12:32:07 GMT 1
1.bus 2.Taylor's 3,barter with Taylor 4.leave suit 5.Pick up suit when pockets have been unstiched Tailor  |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Aug 22, 2019 12:47:54 GMT 1
The decision makers (I’d exclude Sean Jarvis and Ann Hough from this based on my understanding of their responsibilities) first of all need to have a long hard look in the mirror and ask if they truly are the men for the job. Why is it that Moss, Rebbe, Siewert, Bell, Winkler have all been let go within months, or weeks in some cases, of being employed. We must have had to pay £1-2m or more in compensation for getting rid. YOU (Hoyle, Winter, Hodgkinson for some) are responsible for choosing those lot.
They should do that but they won’t, because another critical decision has to be made sooner rather than later by them - who is to be our next manager.
I’d give the new manager, along with David Webb, the responsibility of deciding what to do about the recruiting staff. From the outside it seems Josh Marsh is a big factor in this. Is he up to the job? The last three transfer windows suggest not. BUT ISN’T MARSH JUST A PATSY TO THE BOARD? Which brings me back to my first point.
Hodgkinson, Hoyle (yes, Dean Hoyle) and Winter - the buck TRULY stops with you. Get on with it.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Aug 22, 2019 13:08:31 GMT 1
Whatever Josh Marsh does PH says "he's excellent"at it! What did he also say about Siewert?
I personally would want Winter gone and recruit someone with Premier expirience who's got a proven pedigree for the job. For me he didn't step up to the task when Dean Hoyle was ill. In that job 'silence isn't golden' .
THE CLUB IS NOW VERY ILL, get it sorted you bunch of amateurs down there
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Post by Wingman on Aug 22, 2019 13:14:02 GMT 1
Joe Ledley? Of Celtic fame? You’ve no chance he would look at coming here.
Spot on was the comment that we shouldn’t be picking up free transfers five games in. It all smacks of serious failings at numerous levels in what was a transparent, well run club.
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Post by tommythacks on Aug 22, 2019 13:20:15 GMT 1
There are so many things he needs to address but he needs to focus on the priorities:
1. A manager appointment that builds confidence in the team and fans. Experience of success in the championship and a clear playing identity the main criteria (I don't even care if that is hoof ball as long as the players know what they're doing and buy in to it)
2. Communicate honestly with the fans about our financial position.
3. Build a recruitment strategy with DOF for the next two transfer windows
All three of the above were things we did well in the first two Hoyle/Wagner seasons
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Post by thomo on Aug 22, 2019 13:44:22 GMT 1
Ok, we know we’re in the shit. We know what we all think has gone wrong. What is your 5 step plan for putting it right? What would you do if you were at the wheel? 1. Appoint a manager trusted at this level to steady the ship. At the moment I doubt Hughton would come, so I’d be happy with someone like Gary Rowett. Phil Parkinson has been strongly rumoured and, despite the Empty Chair, we could do worse. 2. Clear out the back room. I said this last night ion Radio Leeds’ phone in. I have nothing against Hudson and the coaching staff but they are part of a losing culture at the moment. They are also part of the furniture. Our players rock up and see Hudson, Whitehead etc. and they’re the same faces they’ve seen for years. We need a clean slate, which means sadly it’s time for them to go. Let’s get someone in who will bring their own staff. 3. Do not let anyone from the squad go that we can’t replace during the remaining days of the European window. I’m thinking anyone from our defence or midfield. Kongolo must stay. Schindler must stay. Mounie can go if we need the cash. 4. Be honest about our financial situation. Be open. We’ve had two years on the gravy train and have apparently no gravy to show for it. Our wage bill was slashed automatically on relegation. We’ve released some big earners, sold some more and received decent fees, spent the square root of fuck all and fans are rightly wondering where the brass has gone. 5. Play the right system for our players. Elphick isn’t looking like the answer to any kind of question other than “show me a player we shouldn’t have signed” at the moment. We need Kongolo to play centrally. This means either a back 3 with Kongolo, Schindler and either Elphick or Stankovic, or a back 4 with someone else at left back. Either let Jaden Brown have a run or bring in a free transfer. Martin Olssen is available. I’d also look at a midfielder on a free. Hatem Ben Arfa , Yohan Cabaye, James Morrison and Joe Ledley are available, for example. I’d also look at Danny Simpson at right back. Give them sensible contracts. They want a wage. We need to find a way to give some of these guys one. We are right in the thick of it but the Championship is one of those divisions where with a new manager bounce we could pick up points easily. The next week or so will tell us everything we need to know about Phil H. Either our worst fears are confirmed, or he is as ill-equipped and unambitious as some say he is. I think this an excellent post in the main - a perfect plan almost and I sincerely hope Phil has read it. Point 1 - Rowett - I’m not sure after his performance at Stoke who were in a similar position to where we are. Point 2 - I completely agree that the new manager should not have to work with the old coaching team. Time for a fresh start and get rid of people who have been involved in this decline. Point 3 - I’m not a Mounie fan but right now we should not be letting anyone go until the new manager has looked at them - the new manager might want a big target man. Point 4 - totally agree. Cut the crap Phil - why did we spend so little? what’s happening to the £30m income generated from player sales (and freed up wages) that came after your Q&A? How did you buy the club? Has Dean taken £40 million back? Do you have the finances to compete with the best in this division. What are our realistic aims under your ownership? Point 5 - playing the right system isn’t down to Phil but hopefully will let the new manager operate in the free agent market to plug the obvious gaps until January. Is there a cut off point for signing free agents? |
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Post by digs on Aug 22, 2019 13:48:47 GMT 1
1.bus 2.Taylor's 3,barter with Taylor 4.leave suit 5.Pick up suit when pockets have been unstiched Tailor predictive txt 😉 |
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Post by Amigo on Aug 22, 2019 14:03:03 GMT 1
There are some decent free transfers available.
Ashley Williams might be a bit old now but his experience would be perfect. Wages may obviously be an issue.
Danny Simpson and Martin Olsson would also be good experienced signings.
Joe Ledley is a good shout as would be James Morrison in midfield.
There's plenty of others. Some would be asking for ridiculous wages but the ones that wouldn't might be worth the fairly minimal risk. It's all well and good bringing in young players but we need captains and leaders and I don't actually think we've got one. Schindler leads by example, Hogg leads by going red in the face, neither of which are working.
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Post by bigtruck on Aug 22, 2019 14:03:27 GMT 1
1. Bring in Gio Van Bronkhurst
2. Shut the fuck up
3. Bring in 2 "Freebies" with a LB & CM/AM
4. Let the New Manager, Coaching Team & DOF do their jobs.
5. Keep shutting the fuck up
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Aug 22, 2019 14:13:42 GMT 1
1. Bring in Gio Van Bronkhurst 2. Shut the fuck up3. Bring in 2 "Freebies" with a LB & CM/AM 4. Let the New Manager, Coaching Team & DOF do their jobs. 5. Keep shutting the fuck up |
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Post by runner76 on Aug 22, 2019 14:20:49 GMT 1
1. Let the HOF select managerial options
2. Work with HOF on interview and selection of new manager
3. Make sure it is the RIGHT MAN
4. Open up serious funds January and ability to also pay good wages for loans
5. Do some PR with fans just to get / keep them onside
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Post by bigtruck on Aug 22, 2019 14:34:42 GMT 1
1. Bring in Gio Van Bronkhurst 2. Shut the fuck up3. Bring in 2 "Freebies" with a LB & CM/AM 4. Let the New Manager, Coaching Team & DOF do their jobs. 5. Keep shutting the fuck upSorry... i let my anger get the better of me. |
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Post by bigtruck on Aug 22, 2019 14:36:47 GMT 1
1. Let the HOF select managerial options 2. Work with HOF on interview and selection of new manager 3. Make sure it is the RIGHT MAN4. Open up serious funds January and ability to also pay good wages for loans 5. Do some PR with fans just to get / keep them onside How do you do that exactly PH - "Hi are you the right Man?" New Manager - "Yes. Yes I am" PH - "Phew thank god for that" |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 14:41:48 GMT 1
Only got one in mind .Get the right manager.Let him then decide on how to sort out the mess.
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Post by k1man999 on Aug 22, 2019 14:47:48 GMT 1
1. Let the HOF select managerial options 2. Work with HOF on interview and selection of new manager 3. Make sure it is the RIGHT MAN 4. Open up serious funds January and ability to also pay good wages for loans 5. Do some PR with fans just to get / keep them onside Not sure how a bloke who used to drive a nice talking car and run along a beach with pam can help us? 😉 |
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Post by runner76 on Aug 22, 2019 14:53:18 GMT 1
1. Let the HOF select managerial options 2. Work with HOF on interview and selection of new manager 3. Make sure it is the RIGHT MAN 4. Open up serious funds January and ability to also pay good wages for loans 5. Do some PR with fans just to get / keep them onside Not sure how a bloke who used to drive a nice talking car and run along a beach with pam can help us? 😉 Saved by a German again!!! |
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Post by runner76 on Aug 22, 2019 14:55:17 GMT 1
1. Let the HOF select managerial options 2. Work with HOF on interview and selection of new manager 3. Make sure it is the RIGHT MAN4. Open up serious funds January and ability to also pay good wages for loans 5. Do some PR with fans just to get / keep them onside How do you do that exactly PH - "Hi are you the right Man?" New Manager - "Yes. Yes I am" PH - "Phew thank god for that" David Webb seems to think he is a recruitment guru - Phil is an experienced businessman who must have recruitment experience; between them its their number one priority and core of their bloody job to hire and hire well. As in, don’t do it cheap, don’t do it (too) fast, DO IT RIGHT |
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Post by willo on Aug 22, 2019 14:58:53 GMT 1
In response to the OP, cannot argue with a single one of the points. Every single one is valid and seem glaringly obvious. Why is it then, that the club appear unable to acknowledge any of them? From the boardroom who seem unwilling to release the required funds to sign even a LB down to the management who can’t see beyond a system of 433 and persist in playing Terry Kongolo in the LB position. Beyond frustrating.
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Post by willo on Aug 22, 2019 15:04:03 GMT 1
Whatever Josh Marsh does PH says "he's excellent"at it! What did he also say about Siewert? I personally would want Winter gone and recruit someone with Premier expirience who's got a proven pedigree for the job. For me he didn't step up to the task when Dean Hoyle was ill. In that job 'silence isn't golden' . THE CLUB IS NOW VERY ILL, get it sorted you bunch of amateurs down there I understand from a source in the media that Josh Marsh nevers answers his phone. This doesn’t just relate to this one particular person but all media bods cannot get him to pick up. I don’t know what Josh Marsh does. what his role is or what he looks like. Anyone? And I agree entirely with the second point re Winter. Talk about missing in action. What a way to run a bloody ship! |
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Post by blanquiazules on Aug 22, 2019 15:38:58 GMT 1
1. Appoint a manager with a track record of turning round squads bereft of confidence
2. Back him with the back room staff he wants
3. Back him with a free agent or two now to fill the worst gaps
4. Back him in January with more ins and outs, get this planned early so it can happen as soon as the window re-opens
5. Free half time pie & pint for all fans to improve the mood
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Post by bigtruck on Aug 22, 2019 15:41:43 GMT 1
1. Appoint a manager with a track record of turning round squads bereft of confidence 2. Back him with the back room staff he wants 3. Back him with a free agent or two now to fill the worst gaps 4. Back him in January with more ins and outs, get this planned early so it can happen as soon as the window re-opens 5. Free half time pie & pint for all fans to improve the moodThat would bankrupt Penny Pinching Phil....  |
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Post by sykeylad on Aug 22, 2019 15:49:08 GMT 1
Hudson not much to do with who came in, only had 1 game thus far and might do better than people think.
Chance to show his qualities and make the tough decisions to get more out of the squad.
He's made a start with a clear plan.
1 performance, 0 points from it and criticism from everyone but it could change. We just need to lift the gloom allied to good leadership and good decisions. His clean slate for all has now tarnished but we have other players who could come in and make a difference.
If he's not up to it, bring someone in and we try it their way. Time will be ticking by by then so expectations need to be realistic.
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Post by townrwe on Aug 22, 2019 16:16:58 GMT 1
1. Sack winter, marsh, demote Hudson and Whitehead to u23s and u21s repectively, Sack the head of fitness, sack the other first team coaches.
2. Work with the Head of football opperations who will get a new title of Director of football to appoint a new boss, Giovanni Van Bronkhurst would be my choice, but let the DOF have his.
3. Formulate a new plan with the New head coach, DOF and Chairman of a plan and style of play that we are committing to, my choice would be a Dortmund model.
4. Increase spending on the new training facility, make it truly state of the art.
5. Formulise a recruitment process where we actively scout players, but also involving the whole of the DATM fanbase to allow for suggestions of hidden talents, gems and overlooked potential superstars. Mobilise a scouting network of 22000 people+, Making the HTAFC network the biggest in the world, acting on these suggestions with local "super scouts". A bit like the football manager model, but for HTAFC only.
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Post by sandgrounder on Aug 22, 2019 16:21:22 GMT 1
Managerial appointment will tell us all, all we need to know!
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Post by alexdire on Aug 22, 2019 16:22:14 GMT 1
1. Let the HOF select managerial options 2. Work with HOF on interview and selection of new manager 3. Make sure it is the RIGHT MAN 4. Open up serious funds January and ability to also pay good wages for loans 5. Do some PR with fans just to get / keep them onside Not sure how a bloke who used to drive a nice talking car and run along a beach with pam can help us? 😉 If he can single handedly bring the Berlin Wall down, he might be able to save us |
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Post by kdriveterrier on Aug 22, 2019 16:31:26 GMT 1
1-Review whats happened the last 24 months-Why a promising position for the club has been ruined.
2-Look at the recruitment procedure for hiring first team manager and Directors of football -What went wrong -Who was responsible
3rReview procedure for recruitment of first team players-Find out what has gone wrong-Change Procedure so the club dont waste any more money and sack those responsible.
4-Look at the senior management of the club off the pitch and look who needs to be replaced before the club ends up league1.
5Bring back the old Acadeny system that recruited the likes of Ryan Schofiels-Lewis O Brien and Matty Daly.
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Post by Town Duppy on Aug 22, 2019 16:36:35 GMT 1
1. Purchase fake moustache.
2. Fly to Germany.
3. Rock up to Dortmunds training ground and hang around for a few hours.
4. Make sure I was accidentally noticed by press then fly back to Blighty.
5. Log on to DATM and watch the fun........
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Post by jim100 on Aug 22, 2019 16:37:23 GMT 1
An excellent plan however we are a club with no money so wouldn't expect massive changes as your plan would require significant expenditure.
We need to somehow avoid relegation so I would spend any money we find behind the setee on a manager who can get us to 50 points with the existing squad.
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Aug 22, 2019 16:41:58 GMT 1
The first thing PH should do is relax and put things in perspective.
While things don't appear to be going well at the moment - we're not the first club to face this after Premier League relegation.
Look around the Championship -
Bolton, Blackburn, Stoke, Middlesborough, West Brom, Sunderland to name a few - have all faced the same thing we're going through right now in recent years.
So don't panic - this might just be the norm and not the exception. That doesn't mean we should be happy - but it also means we shouldn't panic.
4 games in this league is nothing - 10 games is nothing - if you remain sensible and make the right managerial appointment, clean a little bit house with recruitment etc - we'll be ok.
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Post by pawsterrier on Aug 22, 2019 17:38:09 GMT 1
1. convert to a strict diet of port mixed with vimto and crystal MDMA.
2. start wearing a scruffy dressing gown with BO stench to Q + A sessions with fans and answer by reading random paragraphs from Finnegans Wake when serious questions are asked about club finances.
3. install myself as director of gambling and get punting with those parachute payments that don't exist.
4. think of some snappy new marketing slogans similar to Wagner Revolution but more tailored for the new era like Back To Same Old Managed Decline Again or Eh Up, At Least Chinese Oligarchs Don't Finance These Useless Fucking Players
5. get shitfaced and sit there crying watching vid of Schindler scoring winning pen in 2017 EFL championship play-off final.
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