premier league a false hope?

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Aug 29, 2019 17:27:32 GMT 1 Bassingham Terrier said:

Aug 27, 2019 22:43:22 GMT 1 linson said:

The fact is we blew our chance. It's not just one little mistake that's caused it, it's a compendium of compilations of collections of a comedy of errors.

- Not addressing our lack of goals in promotion year
- Not addressing our lack of goals in the survival year
- God awful signings
- Changing tactics from 433 to 532
- Lack of natural, positive wingers
- Backroom staff
- Siewert and his inexcusable inexperience
- Mismanagement of club finances
- Not keeping enough of the good part of the team together
- Promoting / retaining deadwood
- Continually trying the same failed tactics over and over again
- Going into a season without a single recognised left back

I'm confident people on here could add to this sizeable list.

The club is in free fall, you reap what you sow; and we sowed a League One batch of melons.

Best we can hope for is to delve in to the free agent market, cancel more deadwood contracts and slowly rebuild with a new manager. The premiership should have been our trampoline but has ended up being our quicksand but only because we made it that way.

I'm not going to argue with the rest of your post, but this one does get my goat.
Again and again people cite this but it's not true.
Who played left back last Saturday?
Jaden Brown, an England U-somethingorother ex-Tottenham left back.
He'll be our LB and he looks very promising.
It's completely untrue to say that we went into the season "without a single recognised left back"

20 years of age and didn't let himself down last week.

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Aug 22, 2019 22:56:42 GMT 1 woofy80 said:

Like a lot of fans I have been looking at our club and trying to find some sense or reasoning as to why we appear to be in such a state after what was supposed to be our moment in the sun. Getting promotion to the epl is something we'll never forget 1) the 2016/17 season 2) the play-off final 3) 2017/18 surviving against all the odds.

Looking back at why people have left the club all seems to point in one direction ambition or a lack there of. Webber left calling us a league one outfit, Wagner appears to have left because he wasn't backed in the transfer window, we appeared to have failed to attract any premier league quality players and then the appointment of Siewert an unproven junior coach with limited first team experience given the reigns to a premier league club .... the mind boggles!

Hoyle did wonders for the club but the reality is he was a small fish in a big pond even by championship standards, I don't think he was the right person to take us forward. I'm not having a go at him at all but I do think he should have sold once we got promoted, he didn't have the financial backing to maintain premier league status, but again that word ambition comes into play. He spent 20million upgrading canal side (which he owns NOT the club) would that money have been better spent on signing someone like Maupay or Defoe and wages to maintain the premier league money and making a statement that we are serious about being in the premier league? Not to mention all the "little old Huddersfield" and "small dog" talk,  bollocks to that we were the first team to do it three times in a row! I wanted to see a bit of arrogance from the club  "we're back where we belong" and "we have the best fans in the league, you need us".

Or are we just a mid table championship club that got lucky and enjoyed a tiny bit of success?

Some major rules broken here with this piece..accurate though.

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Aug 29, 2019 17:27:32 GMT 1 Bassingham Terrier said:

Aug 27, 2019 22:43:22 GMT 1 linson said:

The fact is we blew our chance. It's not just one little mistake that's caused it, it's a compendium of compilations of collections of a comedy of errors.

- Not addressing our lack of goals in promotion year
- Not addressing our lack of goals in the survival year
- God awful signings
- Changing tactics from 433 to 532
- Lack of natural, positive wingers
- Backroom staff
- Siewert and his inexcusable inexperience
- Mismanagement of club finances
- Not keeping enough of the good part of the team together
- Promoting / retaining deadwood
- Continually trying the same failed tactics over and over again
- Going into a season without a single recognised left back

I'm confident people on here could add to this sizeable list.

The club is in free fall, you reap what you sow; and we sowed a League One batch of melons.

Best we can hope for is to delve in to the free agent market, cancel more deadwood contracts and slowly rebuild with a new manager. The premiership should have been our trampoline but has ended up being our quicksand but only because we made it that way.

I'm not going to argue with the rest of your post, but this one does get my goat.
Again and again people cite this but it's not true.
Who played left back last Saturday?
Jaden Brown, an England U-somethingorother ex-Tottenham left back.
He'll be our LB and he looks very promising.
It's completely untrue to say that we went into the season "without a single recognised left back"

He'd made 1 career start before this year, and that was in league 2. He shouldn't be starting for us this year in the championship.

I think the intent of the statement,is fair. You're arguing semantics.

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Aug 29, 2019 17:40:42 GMT 1 showaddywaddywaddy said:

Aug 22, 2019 22:56:42 GMT 1 woofy80 said:

Like a lot of fans I have been looking at our club and trying to find some sense or reasoning as to why we appear to be in such a state after what was supposed to be our moment in the sun. Getting promotion to the epl is something we'll never forget 1) the 2016/17 season 2) the play-off final 3) 2017/18 surviving against all the odds.

Looking back at why people have left the club all seems to point in one direction ambition or a lack there of. Webber left calling us a league one outfit, Wagner appears to have left because he wasn't backed in the transfer window, we appeared to have failed to attract any premier league quality players and then the appointment of Siewert an unproven junior coach with limited first team experience given the reigns to a premier league club .... the mind boggles!

Hoyle did wonders for the club but the reality is he was a small fish in a big pond even by championship standards, I don't think he was the right person to take us forward. I'm not having a go at him at all but I do think he should have sold once we got promoted, he didn't have the financial backing to maintain premier league status, but again that word ambition comes into play. He spent 20million upgrading canal side (which he owns NOT the club) would that money have been better spent on signing someone like Maupay or Defoe and wages to maintain the premier league money and making a statement that we are serious about being in the premier league? Not to mention all the "little old Huddersfield" and "small dog" talk,  bollocks to that we were the first team to do it three times in a row! I wanted to see a bit of arrogance from the club  "we're back where we belong" and "we have the best fans in the league, you need us".

Or are we just a mid table championship club that got lucky and enjoyed a tiny bit of success?

Some major rules broken here with this piece..accurate though.

Not entirely accurate if we are to believe Dean Hoyle does NOT own Canalside now. I don't think anything like £20 million has been spent yet.

[linson]

Aug 29, 2019 17:27:32 GMT 1 Bassingham Terrier said:

Aug 27, 2019 22:43:22 GMT 1 linson said:

The fact is we blew our chance. It's not just one little mistake that's caused it, it's a compendium of compilations of collections of a comedy of errors.

- Not addressing our lack of goals in promotion year
- Not addressing our lack of goals in the survival year
- God awful signings
- Changing tactics from 433 to 532
- Lack of natural, positive wingers
- Backroom staff
- Siewert and his inexcusable inexperience
- Mismanagement of club finances
- Not keeping enough of the good part of the team together
- Promoting / retaining deadwood
- Continually trying the same failed tactics over and over again
- Going into a season without a single recognised left back

I'm confident people on here could add to this sizeable list.

The club is in free fall, you reap what you sow; and we sowed a League One batch of melons.

Best we can hope for is to delve in to the free agent market, cancel more deadwood contracts and slowly rebuild with a new manager. The premiership should have been our trampoline but has ended up being our quicksand but only because we made it that way.

I'm not going to argue with the rest of your post, but this one does get my goat.
Again and again people cite this but it's not true.
Who played left back last Saturday?
Jaden Brown, an England U-somethingorother ex-Tottenham left back.
He'll be our LB and he looks very promising.
It's completely untrue to say that we went into the season "without a single recognised left back"

I totally understand the point you're making but I respectfully disagree at this stage.

If he'd made a breakthrough last year and pushed for a starting spot I'd agree with what you're saying but ultimately the club let go of Durm and Lowe, both recognised and respected footballers, and didn't replace them. Brown was one for the future who has been thrust into the team potentially too early and if he wasn't pushing the main left backs this year then by definition he's a downgrade. No disrespect to the lad at all by the way.

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Aug 29, 2019 17:50:09 GMT 1 @jameshudd72 said:

Aug 29, 2019 17:40:42 GMT 1 showaddywaddywaddy said:

Some major rules broken here with this piece..accurate though.

Not entirely accurate if we are to believe Dean Hoyle does NOT own Canalside now. I don't think anything like £20 million has been spent yet.

The accounts suggest he doesn't.

[showaddywaddywaddy]

Aug 29, 2019 17:50:09 GMT 1 @jameshudd72 said:

Aug 29, 2019 17:40:42 GMT 1 showaddywaddywaddy said:

Some major rules broken here with this piece..accurate though.

Not entirely accurate if we are to believe Dean Hoyle does NOT own Canalside now. I don't think anything like £20 million has been spent yet.

Hoyle doesnt own Canalside ? Sorry missed this.. doesn't he?