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Post by Paphos Terrier on Sept 1, 2019 13:56:21 GMT 1
Why does Dean Hoyle get all his money back after all he bought all the shit to the club in the first place Has he asked for it all back? Just curious where you got this knowledge from. If he hasn't asked for his loans back, Where's all the money gone then ? Is PH saving up for a £30mil (just a figure) spending spree in January, doubt it very much. |
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Post by Ibiza Town on Sept 1, 2019 13:59:48 GMT 1
I’d have thought it would’ve been the ideal opportunity to sell the club to a billionaire owner when we were in the premier league. We could’ve been established as ‘the Yorkshire premier league club’. I’ll never understand this parochialism of selling to ‘a fan’. We should’ve sold to the wealthiest buyer. Dean suggested their were other large parties interested. What the worst that could’ve happened? Sell to someone who might have secured a better long term future for the club as opposed to someone who definitely won’t be to ensure that. This. Being a 'fan' is great, but if thats all you're bringing to the table, then its not enough |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 13:59:50 GMT 1
Has he asked for it all back? Just curious where you got this knowledge from. If he hasn't asked for his loans back, Where's all the money gone then ? Is PH saving up for a £30mil (just a figure) spending spree in January, doubt it very much. So in other words tou don't know. Come back when you can answer the question rather than assume. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Sept 1, 2019 14:03:34 GMT 1
Has he asked for it all back? Just curious where you got this knowledge from. If he hasn't asked for his loans back, Where's all the money gone then ? Is PH saving up for a £30mil (just a figure) spending spree in January, doubt it very much. Why would we even want to spank £30m in January. Seriously have you not witnessed the last 2 years of expensive garbage? I’m glad Phil didn’t knee jerk into spending at the end of the window. Yes we need to invest in January but that £30m needs to be invested smartly as part of a complete overhaul of our transfer strategy. |
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Post by drfootball on Sept 1, 2019 14:03:50 GMT 1
There won't be one, it will turn in to a riot and would be pretty ugly, so given what has gone on, it would be best for all involved if there wasn't one. There will be. If there is he better get a tin hat |
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Sept 1, 2019 14:05:48 GMT 1
If he hasn't asked for his loans back, Where's all the money gone then ? Is PH saving up for a £30mil (just a figure) spending spree in January, doubt it very much. So in other words tou don't know. Come back when you can answer the question rather than assume. Where's all the money gone Cods, I'm not having this asset stripping by PH, he's taking the flack but somehow trying to pay Dean Hoyle off |
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Sept 1, 2019 14:10:29 GMT 1
If he hasn't asked for his loans back, Where's all the money gone then ? Is PH saving up for a £30mil (just a figure) spending spree in January, doubt it very much. Why would we even want to spank £30m in January. Seriously have you not witnessed the last 2 years of expensive garbage? I’m glad Phil didn’t knee jerk into spending at the end of the window. Yes we need to invest in January but that £30m needs to be invested smartly as part of a complete overhaul of our transfer strategy. I'm glad you're glad that we didn't spend anything in the transfer window, may I remind you where the club are in this Championship table. |
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Post by dugnet on Sept 1, 2019 14:11:05 GMT 1
So in other words tou don't know. Come back when you can answer the question rather than assume. Where's all the money gone Cods, I'm not having this asset stripping by PH, he's taking the flack but somehow trying to pay Dean Hoyle off It's been posted before but if DH is taking his loans back then tell us. It's fine it's his money. It's the fact we don't currently know that is causing the questions. |
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Post by htfcsince70 on Sept 1, 2019 14:17:54 GMT 1
I always thought it unique that Dean Hoyle held the Q and A sessions - does anyone know of another club that has done the same? I have family and friends who all support a variety of clubs and no such event has ever taken place. Why would PH do it? Just because DH did? We'd all like answers to a number of questions but I'm not sure it is the norm in football to get them.
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Post by aca00js on Sept 1, 2019 14:24:33 GMT 1
If he hasn't asked for his loans back, Where's all the money gone then ? Is PH saving up for a £30mil (just a figure) spending spree in January, doubt it very much. So in other words tou don't know. Come back when you can answer the question rather than assume. Dean then needs to answer this question and put the gossip to rest. For me there needs to be a joint statement from both Dean and Phil to be transparent with what the deal to buy the club was, the secrets are just going to cause doubt and unrest. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Sept 1, 2019 14:35:22 GMT 1
Why would we even want to spank £30m in January. Seriously have you not witnessed the last 2 years of expensive garbage? I’m glad Phil didn’t knee jerk into spending at the end of the window. Yes we need to invest in January but that £30m needs to be invested smartly as part of a complete overhaul of our transfer strategy. I'm glad you're glad that we didn't spend anything in the transfer window, may I remind you where the club are in this Championship table. Remind me all you like mate. We’ve got £20m Of wing talent at our disposal. Talk me through how you know the next 2 £10m players (signed in a rush) are going to be any better |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 14:36:34 GMT 1
So in other words tou don't know. Come back when you can answer the question rather than assume. Where's all the money gone Cods, I'm not having this asset stripping by PH, he's taking the flack but somehow trying to pay Dean Hoyle off I asked a straightforward simple question, so far nobody has given me an answer based on fact. |
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Sept 1, 2019 14:56:36 GMT 1
I'm glad you're glad that we didn't spend anything in the transfer window, may I remind you where the club are in this Championship table. Remind me all you like mate. We’ve got £20m Of wing talent at our disposal. Talk me through how you know the next 2 £10m players (signed in a rush) are going to be any better We dont have £20 million in talent wingers though do we. We got conned into those 2 panic buys. We won't be ever again or not for a long time spending £10 million on any one player. We need to buy though don't you agree |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 1, 2019 15:20:53 GMT 1
His nxt talk is a double header with the classic. “ gone with the wind “
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 15:27:36 GMT 1
So in other words tou don't know. Come back when you can answer the question rather than assume. Dean then needs to answer this question and put the gossip to rest. For me there needs to be a joint statement from both Dean and Phil to be transparent with what the deal to buy the club was, the secrets are just going to cause doubt and unrest. Its not the secrets that cause the unrest it is idiots making up baseless rumors. People say shit enough and it begins to stick regardless of whether there is any truth in it. Like the 200 million for winning the playoffs and the idiots who don't seem to understand its the same 200 million you get from the TV rights money not another 200. The accounts will eventually tell us if Dean got his money back or not, I have a hard time believing he did because I don't think he would want it back in a way that hurts the club operationally. Taking it all back at once would clearly do that. |
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Post by Mecha Corte on Sept 1, 2019 15:47:54 GMT 1
Remind me all you like mate. We’ve got £20m Of wing talent at our disposal. Talk me through how you know the next 2 £10m players (signed in a rush) are going to be any better We dont have £20 million in talent wingers though do we. We got conned into those 2 panic buys. We won't be ever again or not for a long time spending £10 million on any one player. We need to buy though don't you agree Not necaseralliy no, as htfcfc said we could buy another two £10M wingers and there's zero guarantee that they would be a success - right now both Diakhby and Mbenza look like busted flushes, however in the past I've seen Chris Marsden, Iwan Roberts and Andy Booth come into the first team and thought "They won't make a footballer while they've a hole in their arse" because they looked proper shite at first but they went on to be three of my all time favourites. A new manager, the right one, might and it is might, it's not certain, get them both playing, Diakhby has shown he could give Ussain Bolt a run for his money, match that with better ball control and distribution and we've a player, Mbenza is more of a doubt for me as he doesn't look interested but he's played for Belgium u21s so must have something, maybe it's just a confidence issue, he joined a new club in a new country and then his manager says I'm not interested in you, that would affect anyone. It's not "happy clapping", I'm truly pissed off at the way this season has gone upto now, there's obviously been a lot going on behind the scenes that has contributed to it, in the past Dean would come out with a statement and everyone would calm down, it's not his place to do that now so let's hope he's made a good call with his successor and he clears out all the rotten apples and appoints well, if he does this squad is good enough to compete in this league. |
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Post by Spike24 on Sept 1, 2019 15:56:12 GMT 1
Remind me all you like mate. We’ve got £20m Of wing talent at our disposal. Talk me through how you know the next 2 £10m players (signed in a rush) are going to be any better We dont have £20 million in talent wingers though do we. We got conned into those 2 panic buys. We won't be ever again or not for a long time spending £10 million on any one player. We need to buy though don't you agree That and the fact we didnt spend 10mil for either. |
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Post by Spike24 on Sept 1, 2019 16:17:01 GMT 1
We dont have £20 million in talent wingers though do we. We got conned into those 2 panic buys. We won't be ever again or not for a long time spending £10 million on any one player. We need to buy though don't you agree That and the fact we didnt spend 10mil for either. .  |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Sept 1, 2019 16:29:03 GMT 1
Remind me all you like mate. We’ve got £20m Of wing talent at our disposal. Talk me through how you know the next 2 £10m players (signed in a rush) are going to be any better We dont have £20 million in talent wingers though do we. We got conned into those 2 panic buys. We won't be ever again or not for a long time spending £10 million on any one player. We need to buy though don't you agree You’re making my point for me. You’re right. We don’t have £20m worth of talent because our transfer strategy has been failing. The person signing off, the person identifying and more recently the head coach. Whether we spend £10m, £5m or £2m I’d rather we had a strategy Where we do agree is we need players. My first hope for PH is a decent manager and preparation for loans/transfers in the Jan window |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 1, 2019 22:09:56 GMT 1
If he hasn't asked for his loans back, Where's all the money gone then ? Is PH saving up for a £30mil (just a figure) spending spree in January, doubt it very much. So in other words tou don't know. Come back when you can answer the question rather than assume. It's ok for others to assume Phil didnt want to give it to siewert to spend and that it will be available in january.... nobody knows that either, they are all opinions so the seeking of proof and facts when you have a different view doesn't win or end the debate. |
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Post by boooothy on Sept 1, 2019 22:47:43 GMT 1
Why were we told we had an option to extend Lossl’s contract?
Why did we stop playing players who wanted to leave? It cost us millions of pounds
Why did the Barnsley coach leave?
Why lie about buying Mbenza? We look stupid taking up an “option”
What did Sabiri do?
Why did we think our one for one replacements would wait till we wanted them?
Jan!!! Why?
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Post by htfcsince70 on Sept 1, 2019 22:58:38 GMT 1
Why were we told we had an option to extend Lossl’s contract? Why did we stop playing players who wanted to leave? It cost us millions of pounds Why did the Barnsley coach leave? Why lie about buying Mbenza? We look stupid taking up an “option” What did Sabiri do? Why did we think our one for one replacements would wait till we wanted them? Jan!!! Why? I must admit that I didn’t really take much notice of what PH said but the one thing that did stick with me and I found quite odd was his claim that we had one for one replacements ready to go should we need them! Like boothy I thought why would the player coming in wait to see if we needed them and how the heck would that work with a situation like we had late in the window with Mooy? Clearly it was said without much thought or understanding of the transfer procedure! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 22:58:55 GMT 1
So in other words tou don't know. Come back when you can answer the question rather than assume. It's ok for others to assume Phil didnt want to give it to siewert to spend and that it will be available in january.... nobody knows that either, they are all opinions so the seeking of proof and facts when you have a different view doesn't win or end the debate. I don't agree it's ok to assume anything. I don't have a problem with opinions either, nor do I assume anything. I asked a question that still hasn't been answered. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 23:23:50 GMT 1
It's ok for others to assume Phil didnt want to give it to siewert to spend and that it will be available in january.... nobody knows that either, they are all opinions so the seeking of proof and facts when you have a different view doesn't win or end the debate. I don't agree it's ok to assume anything. I don't have a problem with opinions either, nor do I assume anything. I asked a question that still hasn't been answered. Too much assuming going on regarding the financial status .Like you I don't assume anything . |
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Post by Manx Terrier on Sept 2, 2019 0:04:08 GMT 1
It's ok for others to assume Phil didnt want to give it to siewert to spend and that it will be available in january.... nobody knows that either, they are all opinions so the seeking of proof and facts when you have a different view doesn't win or end the debate. I don't agree it's ok to assume anything. I don't have a problem with opinions either, nor do I assume anything. I asked a question that still hasn't been answered. Obviously nobody knows. But it's a fact we are deep in it and have spent nothing and Dean is owed 50M approx by the club. So it is a reasonable assumption I think. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 2, 2019 6:46:07 GMT 1
I don't agree it's ok to assume anything. I don't have a problem with opinions either, nor do I assume anything. I asked a question that still hasn't been answered. Too much assuming going on regarding the financial status .Like you I don't assume anything . Opinions, interpretations and assumptions of and on what people see or hear will be found on forums... If people only want facts and proof then probably best not to read public forums. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 2, 2019 7:15:56 GMT 1
Too much assuming going on regarding the financial status .Like you I don't assume anything . Opinions, interpretations and assumptions of and on what people see or hear will be found on forums... If people only want facts and proof then probably best not to read public forums. Asking is one thing, even assuming isn't necessarily too bad. However, nearly always applying an assumption that fits an agenda (e.g. it's 100% PH's fault and he's asset stripping) and being very damning is another, when there's a fair chance of being wrong. Most aren't like these, but there's still a bloody lot. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 8:17:08 GMT 1
Too much assuming going on regarding the financial status .Like you I don't assume anything . Opinions, interpretations and assumptions of and on what people see or hear will be found on forums... If people only want facts and proof then probably best not to read public forums. I have no problem with opinions, interpretations and assumptions on this forum, the problem for me is some people, not all, post as if what they say is factual knowledge. When I ask where this has come from, which as a forum user I am entitled to do...….  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 10:30:22 GMT 1
Gentleman,
All that i can promise at this stage is that i will be present at the next Q and A but i want all of the commition to die down first.
I again will ensure that i make promises that i can't keep.
i will not be able to justify our transfer policy of selling first team 11 and not replacing them.
I cannot account for over 250m gap in our finances.
I also cannot explain why we wasted the whole of preseason when something was clearly wrong after 5 games with Jan.
All i can do i promise to break promises. I hope this is transparent for you.
Regards,
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Post by ben1987 on Sept 2, 2019 10:31:40 GMT 1
Gentleman, All that i can promise at this stage is that i will be present at the next Q and A but i want all of the commition to die down first. I again will ensure that i make promises that i can't keep. i will not be able to justify our transfer policy of selling first team 11 and not replacing them. I cannot account for over 250m gap in our finances. I also cannot explain why we wasted the whole of preseason when something was clearly wrong after 5 games with Jan. All i can do i promise to break promises. I hope this is transparent for you. Regards, PP Embarrassing |
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