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Post by space hardware on Sept 2, 2019 10:48:40 GMT 1
Gentleman, All that i can promise at this stage is that i will be present at the next Q and A but i want all of the commition to die down first. I again will ensure that i make promises that i can't keep. i will not be able to justify our transfer policy of selling first team 11 and not replacing them. I cannot account for over 250m gap in our finances. I also cannot explain why we wasted the whole of preseason when something was clearly wrong after 5 games with Jan. All i can do i promise to break promises. I hope this is transparent for you. Regards, PP Embarrassing 😁 Made me chuckle but, then again, I do have a fairly juvenile sense of humour
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Post by rastrick32 on Sept 2, 2019 10:56:48 GMT 1
The nickname Potless has stuck. Who is responsible? Even in general conversation yesterday, a few mates referred to PH as Potless. It makes me laugh but I don't know why.
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Post by ritchie on Sept 2, 2019 11:53:31 GMT 1
Gentleman, All that i can promise at this stage is that i will be present at the next Q and A but i want all of the commition to die down first. I again will ensure that i make promises that i can't keep. i will not be able to justify our transfer policy of selling first team 11 and not replacing them. I cannot account for over 250m gap in our finances. I also cannot explain why we wasted the whole of preseason when something was clearly wrong after 5 games with Jan. All i can do i promise to break promises. I hope this is transparent for you. Regards, PP Embarrassing and it seems its an adult doing it
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Post by space hardware on Sept 2, 2019 12:08:42 GMT 1
The nickname Potless has stuck. Who is responsible? Even in general conversation yesterday, a few mates referred to PH as Potless. It makes me laugh but I don't know why. I think it was alex in his thread "Shouty Man and Potless" from a few days ago 😂
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 12:44:33 GMT 1
The nickname Potless has stuck. Who is responsible? Even in general conversation yesterday, a few mates referred to PH as Potless. It makes me laugh but I don't know why. I know who's responsible.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 12:46:35 GMT 1
Why were we told we had an option to extend Lossl’s contract? Why did we stop playing players who wanted to leave? It cost us millions of pounds Why did the Barnsley coach leave? Why lie about buying Mbenza? We look stupid taking up an “option” What did Sabiri do? Why did we think our one for one replacements would wait till we wanted them? Jan!!! Why? You should probably watch the first Q&A again
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 12:57:47 GMT 1
Why were we told we had an option to extend Lossl’s contract? Gentlemen,Why did we stop playing players who wanted to leave? It cost us millions of pounds Because i had faith in the manager to lead us forward; we had tracked him i the German regional leagues for 3 years prior and i had full confidence in his ability to manage full international, EPL players. If Jan wants to not play those players i back him fully; it worked for us, right?Why did the Barnsley coach leave? I took that decision as im experienced in the running of a football club and thought that Jan was able to run the side successfully on his own. I managed to replace the coach with someone that i hand picked from womens football; is that not good enough for HTAFC?
Why lie about buying Mbenza? We look stupid taking up an “option” We took up to option to buy Mbenza in 2018; i didn;t clarify specifically when we took up the option. We are relying on Diabenza to be big players for us this season as we have managed to successfully sell arguably our better wingers after the UK transfer windows closed.What did Sabiri do? Sabri was taking a first 16 wage without being a starter. By releasing him and letter a Bundesliga team sign him we have one more off the wage bill; this is an expensively assembled team you know; 130m!Why did we think our one for one replacements would wait till we wanted them? We had to sell before we could bring anyone in. We needed the 25m to cover wages this season so couldn't push the button on targets until we sold half of our starting 11.Jan!!! Why? You should probably watch the first Q&A again We scouted Jan for 3 years; he built a great relationship with the squad and was humble throughout his tenure. We thought based on his previous success he was worth this full pre season and 5 games to turn it aroundRegards,
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Post by rastrick32 on Sept 2, 2019 12:58:11 GMT 1
Why were we told we had an option to extend Lossl’s contract? Why did we stop playing players who wanted to leave? It cost us millions of pounds Why did the Barnsley coach leave? Why lie about buying Mbenza? We look stupid taking up an “option” What did Sabiri do? Why did we think our one for one replacements would wait till we wanted them? Jan!!! Why? You should probably watch the first Q&A again Is it available on DVD?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 13:03:12 GMT 1
You should probably watch the first Q&A again We scouted Jan for 3 years; he built a great relationship with the squad and was humble throughout his tenure. We thought based on his previous success he was worth this full pre season and 5 games to turn it aroundRegards,
PPWasn't funny the first time, when the only person liking your posts is Nick it's probably time to knock it on the head. Regards, Everyone.
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Post by alexdire on Sept 2, 2019 13:24:16 GMT 1
The nickname Potless has stuck. Who is responsible? Even in general conversation yesterday, a few mates referred to PH as Potless. It makes me laugh but I don't know why. I think it was alex in his thread "Shouty Man and Potless" from a few days ago 😂 It was long before that
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 13:26:54 GMT 1
Why were we told we had an option to extend Lossl’s contract? Why did we stop playing players who wanted to leave? It cost us millions of pounds Why did the Barnsley coach leave? Why lie about buying Mbenza? We look stupid taking up an “option” What did Sabiri do? Why did we think our one for one replacements would wait till we wanted them? Jan!!! Why? I must have missed it. When were we told about the Lossl contract extension? Are you sure it wasn't Mooy?
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Post by artysid on Sept 2, 2019 13:33:56 GMT 1
On here. A quick search suggests it was aideybabes May 5th 7:33am in the thread CLUB SOLD ! Maybe he can tell more. Full text:- Totally understand Dean selling and as for what he’s done for the club in the ten years of his ownership, well the guy will never have to buy a pint again in Huddersfield but it would appear our new chairman is potless would it not? People go on about parachute payments but they don’t last for ever and what happens when that runs out? Something doesn’t stack up right for me with the new guy. Not writing him off already but I’d expect someone who buys a football club to have a bit more financial clout on paper like. That said i wouldn’t mind being a few thousand behind him.
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Post by ben1987 on Sept 2, 2019 13:35:52 GMT 1
and it seems its an adult doing it It’s just becoming a witch hunt now, a complete character assassination based on rumour and bullshit rather than sensible balanced debate on the matter. This club in the last, what, 4 years? Has been built by unity, togetherness and respect. In the last 12 months, it’s all fallen apart. Nobody is pulling in the same direction, everyone’s expecting defeat, there’s no unity, no bond, nothing. Then to add to that, folk starting rumours and creating hear say based on nothing only fuels the complete fucking mess we are already in. And whilst all this is happening, those deluded wankers down the m621 have got their shit together. They’ve all got the unity we had as a fan base with a manager who they’ve all bought into and any c*** who doesn’t agree with it has been fucked off in a breath (Janson for example). We’ve seen players like Zanka and Billing go who have all been, as stated by PH and DH, disruptive, binned off, the fact billing apologised to DH says a lot and VLP who was shipped off to a bang average Boro side by Wagner because he was becoming disruptive has now been sold because he’s not got the stomach for the fight. There’s a complete loss of trust. Posts like above may be funny to some but to me it’s just uncalled for, rather than being c**** about it we could just let the dust settle and wait to see who the new manager is, all pull together for Sheffield Wednesday or we can keep turning against each other and Phil.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 2, 2019 13:41:19 GMT 1
Grrrrrr
We all like it when you get angry Ben
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Post by space hardware on Sept 2, 2019 13:42:01 GMT 1
and it seems its an adult doing it It’s just becoming a witch hunt now, a complete character assassination based on rumour and bullshit rather than sensible balanced debate on the matter. This club in the last, what, 4 years? Has been built by unity, togetherness and respect. In the last 12 months, it’s all fallen apart. Nobody is pulling in the same direction, everyone’s expecting defeat, there’s no unity, no bond, nothing. Then to add to that, folk starting rumours and creating hear say based on nothing only fuels the complete fucking mess we are already in. And whilst all this is happening, those deluded wankers down the m621 have got their shit together. They’ve all got the unity we had as a fan base with a manager who they’ve all bought into and any c*** who doesn’t agree with it has been fucked off in a breath (Janson for example). We’ve seen players like Zanka and Billing go who have all been, as stated by PH and DH, disruptive, binned off, the fact billing apologised to DH says a lot and VLP who was shipped off to a bang average Boro side by Wagner because he was becoming disruptive has now been sold because he’s not got the stomach for the fight. There’s a complete loss of trust. Posts like above may be funny to some but to me it’s just uncalled for, rather than being c**** about it we could just let the dust settle and wait to see who the new manager is, all pull together for Sheffield Wednesday or we can keep turning against each other and Phil. If this is the case, isn't it a little odd that he started our last match?
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 2, 2019 13:55:32 GMT 1
and it seems its an adult doing it It’s just becoming a witch hunt now, a complete character assassination based on rumour and bullshit rather than sensible balanced debate on the matter. This club in the last, what, 4 years? Has been built by unity, togetherness and respect. In the last 12 months, it’s all fallen apart. Nobody is pulling in the same direction, everyone’s expecting defeat, there’s no unity, no bond, nothing. Then to add to that, folk starting rumours and creating hear say based on nothing only fuels the complete fucking mess we are already in. And whilst all this is happening, those deluded wankers down the m621 have got their shit together. They’ve all got the unity we had as a fan base with a manager who they’ve all bought into and any c*** who doesn’t agree with it has been fucked off in a breath (Janson for example). We’ve seen players like Zanka and Billing go who have all been, as stated by PH and DH, disruptive, binned off, the fact billing apologised to DH says a lot and VLP who was shipped off to a bang average Boro side by Wagner because he was becoming disruptive has now been sold because he’s not got the stomach for the fight. There’s a complete loss of trust. Posts like above may be funny to some but to me it’s just uncalled for, rather than being c**** about it we could just let the dust settle and wait to see who the new manager is, all pull together for Sheffield Wednesday or we can keep turning against each other and Phil. As always with Town fans, everything is so black and white. Players are either brilliant or shit, mostly decided within 5 minutes with no opportunity for a turnaround. So it's seemingly the same with owners. Dean Hoyle is the messiah who cannot be questioned, whereas Phil Hodgkinson is the anti christ...mainly because he's a) not Dean Hoyle and b) folk cant find out on google what he's worth. Obviously absolutely no space for any grey area between the two camps. The witchunt is beyond a fucking joke now. Yes PH has said stuff he probably shouldn't have but DH is far more responsible for the current predicament than PH yet we've got folk on the verge of scraping at games about it all and are probably only 2 or 3 games away from having an angry mob outside the main entrance wanting to lynch PH following another defeat. I'm as pissed off as anyone about the current circus but its not purely (ole!) the fault of 1 man. As hard as it seems we need to pull together or else all we'll do is massively contribute ourselves to dragging the club down to L1. Stuff like oleing goals during the warm ups and constantly singing how shit must you be we've scored a goal can only be a hindrance, not a help.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 13:58:43 GMT 1
He's Phil, not Pol Pot. There would obviously be some raised emotions & there might be an occasional idiot, but I expect these things are attended by sensible fans just wanting some clarity, not a bunch of egg lobbers...
Pol Pot.
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Post by htfcsince70 on Sept 2, 2019 15:51:55 GMT 1
It’s just becoming a witch hunt now, a complete character assassination based on rumour and bullshit rather than sensible balanced debate on the matter. This club in the last, what, 4 years? Has been built by unity, togetherness and respect. In the last 12 months, it’s all fallen apart. Nobody is pulling in the same direction, everyone’s expecting defeat, there’s no unity, no bond, nothing. Then to add to that, folk starting rumours and creating hear say based on nothing only fuels the complete fucking mess we are already in. And whilst all this is happening, those deluded wankers down the m621 have got their shit together. They’ve all got the unity we had as a fan base with a manager who they’ve all bought into and any c*** who doesn’t agree with it has been fucked off in a breath (Janson for example). We’ve seen players like Zanka and Billing go who have all been, as stated by PH and DH, disruptive, binned off, the fact billing apologised to DH says a lot and VLP who was shipped off to a bang average Boro side by Wagner because he was becoming disruptive has now been sold because he’s not got the stomach for the fight. There’s a complete loss of trust. Posts like above may be funny to some but to me it’s just uncalled for, rather than being c**** about it we could just let the dust settle and wait to see who the new manager is, all pull together for Sheffield Wednesday or we can keep turning against each other and Phil. As always with Town fans, everything is so black and white. Players are either brilliant or shit, mostly decided within 5 minutes with no opportunity for a turnaround. So it's seemingly the same with owners. Dean Hoyle is the messiah who cannot be questioned, whereas Phil Hodgkinson is the anti christ...mainly because he's a) not Dean Hoyle and b) folk cant find out on google what he's worth. Obviously absolutely no space for any grey area between the two camps. The witchunt is beyond a fucking joke now. Yes PH has said stuff he probably shouldn't have but DH is far more responsible for the current predicament than PH yet we've got folk on the verge of scraping at games about it all and are probably only 2 or 3 games away from having an angry mob outside the main entrance wanting to lynch PH following another defeat. I'm as pissed off as anyone about the current circus but its not purely (ole!) the fault of 1 man. As hard as it seems we need to pull together or else all we'll do is massively contribute ourselves to dragging the club down to L1. Stuff like oleing goals during the warm ups and constantly singing how shit must you be we've scored a goal can only be a hindrance, not a help. I must admit that I know nothing about PP - either as a person or what his finances are and to be fair I really don't think everything is his fault by any stretch of the imagination. He wasn't at the club when the worst possible decisions were made - that is appoint,Siewert and sign some of the shite that we did - the main reasons for our demise and current predicament in my opinion. Lets give the bloke a fair chance because to be honest it wouldn't matter how much money I had or how much I love Town I wouldn't want to be Chairman - we are all good Chairmen with someone else's money and we all make great decisions when they don't matter at all because we are not involved - but being the person who has the final say on the hopes of us as supporters and those directly employed and rely on a wage is reality and a responsibility that I wouldn't want. Fingers crossed that the tide turns for him and that he appoints a good manager and results start to go our way.
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 2, 2019 16:00:30 GMT 1
As always with Town fans, everything is so black and white. Players are either brilliant or shit, mostly decided within 5 minutes with no opportunity for a turnaround. So it's seemingly the same with owners. Dean Hoyle is the messiah who cannot be questioned, whereas Phil Hodgkinson is the anti christ...mainly because he's a) not Dean Hoyle and b) folk cant find out on google what he's worth. Obviously absolutely no space for any grey area between the two camps. The witchunt is beyond a fucking joke now. Yes PH has said stuff he probably shouldn't have but DH is far more responsible for the current predicament than PH yet we've got folk on the verge of scraping at games about it all and are probably only 2 or 3 games away from having an angry mob outside the main entrance wanting to lynch PH following another defeat. I'm as pissed off as anyone about the current circus but its not purely (ole!) the fault of 1 man. As hard as it seems we need to pull together or else all we'll do is massively contribute ourselves to dragging the club down to L1. Stuff like oleing goals during the warm ups and constantly singing how shit must you be we've scored a goal can only be a hindrance, not a help. I must admit that I know nothing about PP - either as a person or what his finances are and to be fair I really don't think everything is his fault by any stretch of the imagination. He wasn't at the club when the worst possible decisions were made - that is appoint,Siewert and sign some of the shite that we did - the main reasons for our demise and current predicament in my opinion. Lets give the bloke a fair chance because to be honest it wouldn't matter how much money I had or how much I love Town I wouldn't want to be Chairman - we are all good Chairmen with someone else's money and we all make great decisions when they don't matter at all because we are not involved - but being the person who has the final say on the hopes of us as supporters and those directly employed and rely on a wage is reality and a responsibility that I wouldn't want. Fingers crossed that the tide turns for him and that he appoints a good manager and results start to go our way. Problem is its been decided, he's a useless potless ambulance chaser who isnt even a fan.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 17:30:06 GMT 1
Why not a Q and A with PH and DH or is that asking for too much .
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Post by rothwellterrier on Sept 2, 2019 17:34:00 GMT 1
You should probably watch the first Q&A again Is it available on DVD? Think it went straight to V.H.S.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 2, 2019 17:36:10 GMT 1
I must admit that I know nothing about PP - either as a person or what his finances are and to be fair I really don't think everything is his fault by any stretch of the imagination. He wasn't at the club when the worst possible decisions were made - that is appoint,Siewert and sign some of the shite that we did - the main reasons for our demise and current predicament in my opinion. Lets give the bloke a fair chance because to be honest it wouldn't matter how much money I had or how much I love Town I wouldn't want to be Chairman - we are all good Chairmen with someone else's money and we all make great decisions when they don't matter at all because we are not involved - but being the person who has the final say on the hopes of us as supporters and those directly employed and rely on a wage is reality and a responsibility that I wouldn't want. Fingers crossed that the tide turns for him and that he appoints a good manager and results start to go our way. Problem is its been decided, he's a useless potless ambulance chaser who isnt even a fan. The guy needs a break and to catch a break with the new manager. He's taken some right flack, some warranted, a lot probably not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 17:39:24 GMT 1
It’s just becoming a witch hunt now, a complete character assassination based on rumour and bullshit rather than sensible balanced debate on the matter. This club in the last, what, 4 years? Has been built by unity, togetherness and respect. In the last 12 months, it’s all fallen apart. Nobody is pulling in the same direction, everyone’s expecting defeat, there’s no unity, no bond, nothing. Then to add to that, folk starting rumours and creating hear say based on nothing only fuels the complete fucking mess we are already in. And whilst all this is happening, those deluded wankers down the m621 have got their shit together. They’ve all got the unity we had as a fan base with a manager who they’ve all bought into and any c*** who doesn’t agree with it has been fucked off in a breath (Janson for example). We’ve seen players like Zanka and Billing go who have all been, as stated by PH and DH, disruptive, binned off, the fact billing apologised to DH says a lot and VLP who was shipped off to a bang average Boro side by Wagner because he was becoming disruptive has now been sold because he’s not got the stomach for the fight. There’s a complete loss of trust. Posts like above may be funny to some but to me it’s just uncalled for, rather than being c**** about it we could just let the dust settle and wait to see who the new manager is, all pull together for Sheffield Wednesday or we can keep turning against each other and Phil. As always with Town fans, everything is so black and white. Players are either brilliant or shit, mostly decided within 5 minutes with no opportunity for a turnaround. So it's seemingly the same with owners. Dean Hoyle is the messiah who cannot be questioned, whereas Phil Hodgkinson is the anti christ...mainly because he's a) not Dean Hoyle and b) folk cant find out on google what he's worth. Obviously absolutely no space for any grey area between the two camps. The witchunt is beyond a fucking joke now. Yes PH has said stuff he probably shouldn't have but DH is far more responsible for the current predicament than PH yet we've got folk on the verge of scraping at games about it all and are probably only 2 or 3 games away from having an angry mob outside the main entrance wanting to lynch PH following another defeat. I'm as pissed off as anyone about the current circus but its not purely (ole!) the fault of 1 man. As hard as it seems we need to pull together or else all we'll do is massively contribute ourselves to dragging the club down to L1. Stuff like oleing goals during the warm ups and constantly singing how shit must you be we've scored a goal can only be a hindrance, not a help. I cringed when i heard that at Luton. We get a foothold in the game and instead of encouragement that rings out. Stupid prats!
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Post by ben1987 on Sept 2, 2019 18:20:14 GMT 1
Grrrrrr We all like it when you get angry Ben Not wrong though am I moon head? First thing the new manager needs to do is get the unity and togetherness back that’s been lost.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 2, 2019 18:23:24 GMT 1
Grrrrrr We all like it when you get angry Ben Not wrong though am I moon head? First thing the new manager needs to do is get the unity and togetherness back that’s been lost. Benjamin. For once I agree with you
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Post by ben1987 on Sept 2, 2019 18:26:28 GMT 1
Not wrong though am I moon head? First thing the new manager needs to do is get the unity and togetherness back that’s been lost. Benjamin. For once I agree with you You often agree with me, don’t lie.
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Post by andyeastleake on Sept 2, 2019 19:43:35 GMT 1
This club in the last, what, 4 years? Has been built by unity, togetherness and respect. In the last 12 months, it’s all fallen apart. Nobody is pulling in the same direction, everyone’s expecting defeat, there’s no unity, no bond, nothing. Ben, I wholeheartedly agree with the thrust of your post (and have great respect for you as a poster). However what is the easiest way to lose unity and respect? I'd suggest it's to tell people one thing and do another. PH hasn't done himself any favours at all (although I suspect he's been dealt a bad hand).
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 2, 2019 19:53:57 GMT 1
This club in the last, what, 4 years? Has been built by unity, togetherness and respect. In the last 12 months, it’s all fallen apart. Nobody is pulling in the same direction, everyone’s expecting defeat, there’s no unity, no bond, nothing. Ben, I wholeheartedly agree with the thrust of your post (and have great respect for you as a poster). However what is the easiest way to lose unity and respect? I'd suggest it's to tell people one thing and do another. PH hasn't done himself any favours at all (although I suspect he's been dealt a bad hand). What's he said exactly Andy which leads you to the conclusion he is duplicitous? IF this WAS proved to be the case (and I'm not convinced myself) then I would still ask the question " how exactly is all this" toxicity" (Sorry Jello) helping our club fight what increasingly looks like a relegation struggle "? So I'm with the scrawny lad who never sings on this one
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Sept 2, 2019 20:01:52 GMT 1
and it seems its an adult doing it It’s just becoming a witch hunt now, a complete character assassination based on rumour and bullshit rather than sensible balanced debate on the matter. This club in the last, what, 4 years? Has been built by unity, togetherness and respect. In the last 12 months, it’s all fallen apart. Nobody is pulling in the same direction, everyone’s expecting defeat, there’s no unity, no bond, nothing. Then to add to that, folk starting rumours and creating hear say based on nothing only fuels the complete fucking mess we are already in. And whilst all this is happening, those deluded wankers down the m621 have got their shit together. They’ve all got the unity we had as a fan base with a manager who they’ve all bought into and any c*** who doesn’t agree with it has been fucked off in a breath (Janson for example). We’ve seen players like Zanka and Billing go who have all been, as stated by PH and DH, disruptive, binned off, the fact billing apologised to DH says a lot and VLP who was shipped off to a bang average Boro side by Wagner because he was becoming disruptive has now been sold because he’s not got the stomach for the fight. There’s a complete loss of trust. Posts like above may be funny to some but to me it’s just uncalled for, rather than being c**** about it we could just let the dust settle and wait to see who the new manager is, all pull together for Sheffield Wednesday or we can keep turning against each other and Phil. Well done, I vote you for the best comment of the season so far.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Sept 2, 2019 20:09:19 GMT 1
I must admit that I know nothing about PP - either as a person or what his finances are and to be fair I really don't think everything is his fault by any stretch of the imagination. He wasn't at the club when the worst possible decisions were made - that is appoint,Siewert and sign some of the shite that we did - the main reasons for our demise and current predicament in my opinion. Lets give the bloke a fair chance because to be honest it wouldn't matter how much money I had or how much I love Town I wouldn't want to be Chairman - we are all good Chairmen with someone else's money and we all make great decisions when they don't matter at all because we are not involved - but being the person who has the final say on the hopes of us as supporters and those directly employed and rely on a wage is reality and a responsibility that I wouldn't want. Fingers crossed that the tide turns for him and that he appoints a good manager and results start to go our way. Problem is its been decided, he's a useless potless ambulance chaser who isnt even a fan. I well remember Man.City before the Far East Billionaires rode into town, they were "potless" and struggling, in fact during a PL game vs Boro manager Stuart Pearce decided to use substitute goalkeeper David James as a centre forward despite having Jon Macken available - can you imagine if Siewert or Hudson had tried a stunt like that ? City fans desperate for salvation turned to "superfans" Liam and Noel Gallagher of Oasis, their response was to laughingly say "You must be joking, I'm not wasting my money on those scallies" but they are more than happy to be wheeled out on any tv or radio show now and declare how great City are and what great fans they are.
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