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Post by midlander on Sept 4, 2019 18:17:56 GMT 1
Thanks for that, conflicting reports but I know you'll be right. Steady on lad lol, the article is bit ambiguous I know but he says they had the opportunity to talk, they just ommited the part where they said they took that opportunity, liked what they heard and then agreed!... But had their heads turned by Sheff Weds Sunday. Any idea how close we are to getting the second choice in? |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 4, 2019 18:30:54 GMT 1
42% win percentage over 500 games isn't to be scoffed at. Would likely keep us up
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 18:33:04 GMT 1
Give it 2 years and the Crowley’s will be a busted flush. Dealing with non-league players is a world away from starting a fresh at a pro club. Get a club some momentum and they quickly climb the leagues: look back over the last decade at teams who’ve come from non-league to League 1 or even the Championship. The bubble bursts, they invariably edge down the ladder and the managers who got them there rarely repeat the fete at a higher level.
Burton: Clough did nothing anywhere else
Yeovil: Johnson did nothing anywhere else
I could go on. Can anyone name a manager who was plucked from League 1 or below who has had a successful career, besides Adkins?
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 4, 2019 18:33:04 GMT 1
Nigel Adkins? Have I woken up in 2010? 😬😁 Meh, at least it isn't going to be that twat Bowyer or Phil Parkinson. Another Lee Clark. Goalie/physio turned manager. Puts a suit on, trendy glasses and speaks well and everyone thinks he is the bees knees. Another insurance salesman. When will we learn? Adkins...rather have Hartley from Pipkins. |
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Post by El Mel on Sept 4, 2019 18:34:12 GMT 1
When PH said '5 years championship experience' - Adkins was the man. I think he's chased Wolf and Cowley to try and win back some fans. Maybe he should have gone with the sensible choice for where we are from the outset?
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 4, 2019 18:40:38 GMT 1
42% win percentage over 500 games isn't to be scoffed at. Would likely keep us up Last 232 games its 34%...thats where i would be looking...not a games with the biggest budget in the 3rd tier with England strikers on the books. Nothing special and wont be at Town. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 4, 2019 18:41:00 GMT 1
When PH said '5 years championship experience' - Adkins was the man. I think he's chased Wolf and Cowley to try and win back some fans. Maybe he should have gone with the sensible choice for where we are from the outset? So this "searching Europe for a better manager" that you urged Dean Hoyle to do following our promotion to the Premier League, has led you to the door of Nigel Adkins? Bloody hell |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 4, 2019 18:43:02 GMT 1
This can be his song, love this.
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Post by drfootball on Sept 4, 2019 18:43:16 GMT 1
Yes we did. Had talks, agreed a deal, they backed out Monday Thanks for that, conflicting reports but I know you'll be right. Looks bad now that if we go back to Adkins and say “you know what mate we never liked them brothers anyway, how you fixed “ |
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Post by smax on Sept 4, 2019 18:44:11 GMT 1
Nigel Adkins? Have I woken up in 2010? 😬😁 Meh, at least it isn't going to be that twat Bowyer or Phil Parkinson. Another Lee Clark. Goalie/physio turned manager. Puts a suit on, trendy glasses and speaks well and everyone thinks he is the bees knees. Another insurance salesman. When will we learn? Adkins...rather have Hartley from Pipkins. Or topov |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 18:47:28 GMT 1
Nigel Adkins? Have I woken up in 2010? 😬😁 Meh, at least it isn't going to be that twat Bowyer or Phil Parkinson. Another Lee Clark. Goalie/physio turned manager. Puts a suit on, trendy glasses and speaks well and everyone thinks he is the bees knees. Another insurance salesman. When will we learn? Adkins...rather have Hartley from Pipkins. Lee Clark would swim the length of the Tyne to have a managerial record like Adkins. Apart from wearing a suit I don't see the connection. |
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Post by townatheart on Sept 4, 2019 18:51:06 GMT 1
Another Lee Clark. Goalie/physio turned manager. Puts a suit on, trendy glasses and speaks well and everyone thinks he is the bees knees. Another insurance salesman. When will we learn? Adkins...rather have Hartley from Pipkins. Lee Clark would swim the length of the Tyne to have a managerial record like Adkins. Apart from wearing a suit I don't see the connection. But oti has spoken, so it must be right. Billing is at Bury is he not? 😘😋 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 18:51:27 GMT 1
Thanks for that, conflicting reports but I know you'll be right. Looks bad now that if we go back to Adkins and say “you know what mate we never liked them brothers anyway, how you fixed “ 'When can I start' will be the reply. Smiling all the way to the bank. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 18:56:37 GMT 1
Give it 2 years and the Crowley’s will be a busted flush. Dealing with non-league players is a world away from starting a fresh at a pro club. Get a club some momentum and they quickly climb the leagues: look back over the last decade at teams who’ve come from non-league to League 1 or even the Championship. The bubble bursts, they invariably edge down the ladder and the managers who got them there rarely repeat the fete at a higher level. Burton: Clough did nothing anywhere else Yeovil: Johnson did nothing anywhere else I could go on. Can anyone name a manager who was plucked from League 1 or below who has had a successful career, besides Adkins? Neil Warnock? |
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Post by boooothy on Sept 4, 2019 18:56:48 GMT 1
I did think the whole physio thing was a joke at the time. A bigger joke than appointing a german youth team manager and girls coach.
But he’s done very very well. Seems to be well thought of at all his previous clubs.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 4, 2019 19:00:09 GMT 1
Thanks for that, conflicting reports but I know you'll be right. Looks bad now that if we go back to Adkins and say “you know what mate we never liked them brothers anyway, how you fixed “ I'm Sure the million quid a year would ease the blow |
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Post by El Mel on Sept 4, 2019 19:05:41 GMT 1
When PH said '5 years championship experience' - Adkins was the man. I think he's chased Wolf and Cowley to try and win back some fans. Maybe he should have gone with the sensible choice for where we are from the outset? So this "searching Europe for a better manager" that you urged Dean Hoyle to do following our promotion to the Premier League, has led you to the door of Nigel Adkins? Bloody hell Our circumstances have changed Ted. We've no money (really), whereas when we were in the PL, hiring a manager to keep us in there for longer than 1 season minimum, would have paid dividends. Right now, yes, I think Adkins would be a suitable appointment. We need to avoid relegation this season. Nothing else. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 4, 2019 19:06:24 GMT 1
Looks bad now that if we go back to Adkins and say “you know what mate we never liked them brothers anyway, how you fixed “ I'm Sure the million quid a year would ease the blow It’s a farce. Exactly what you would expect after the last 18 months. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 4, 2019 19:07:55 GMT 1
When PH said '5 years championship experience' - Adkins was the man. I think he's chased Wolf and Cowley to try and win back some fans. Maybe he should have gone with the sensible choice for where we are from the outset? So this "searching Europe for a better manager" that you urged Dean Hoyle to do following our promotion to the Premier League, has led you to the door of Nigel Adkins? Bloody hell We are making plans for Nigel, Join in. |
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Sept 4, 2019 19:15:48 GMT 1
If it's Adkins I'm completely underwhlemed.
After years of being bang average we roll the dice on Wagner and have the best run in my 30 year history of watching the club.
After one bad experience with JS we go back to the old way - safe and boring.
Maybe it's what we need - but I just find it uninspiring.
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Post by El Mel on Sept 4, 2019 19:17:02 GMT 1
So this "searching Europe for a better manager" that you urged Dean Hoyle to do following our promotion to the Premier League, has led you to the door of Nigel Adkins? Bloody hell We are making plans for Nigel, Join in. If he says he's happy. Then he's happy. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 19:21:21 GMT 1
Getting a club like Scunthorpe into the Championship and getting Southampton promoted two divisions isn't to be sniffed at. He's done ok since. Of everyone mentioned him and Rowett give me the most confidence to stay up. Not that that should have been enough this season but it looks like that's gonna be the aim now.
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Post by specialun on Sept 4, 2019 19:23:45 GMT 1
42% win percentage over 500 games isn't to be scoffed at. Would likely keep us up But 36% win rate since 2013, 26% draw rate, 38% loss rate That would give us 53 points over next 40 games and 54 in total That should keep us up If only football was that simple eh... He’ll do well to replicate those stats with the quality of this squad / lack of summer investment |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 4, 2019 19:24:24 GMT 1
If it's Adkins I'm completely underwhlemed. After years of being bang average we roll the dice on Wagner and have the best run in my 30 year history of watching the club. After one bad experience with JS we go back to the old way - safe and boring. Maybe it's what we need - but I just find it uninspiring. Are there any candidates left who would qualify as 'exciting' though? Is it nailed on to be Adkins or are we going by the odds again? |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 4, 2019 19:32:55 GMT 1
Another Lee Clark. Goalie/physio turned manager. Puts a suit on, trendy glasses and speaks well and everyone thinks he is the bees knees. Another insurance salesman. When will we learn? Adkins...rather have Hartley from Pipkins. Lee Clark would swim the length of the Tyne to have a managerial record like Adkins. Apart from wearing a suit I don't see the connection. I was not comparing them by record...but by the fact they are perennial triers. Adkins record does not stand up to scrutiny for me. As much failure as success.....much of the success with a large budgeted team playing 2 divisions below it probable level. Had he taken Scunny to the Prem then i might get excited. Two Scunny promotions and then a relegation and a very near relegation...reversion to mean....perhaps he got lucky. Left them not much better than when he started. Cant get excited by what he did at Saints. Lets see. |
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Post by hypotenuse on Sept 4, 2019 19:42:37 GMT 1
Lee Clark would swim the length of the Tyne to have a managerial record like Adkins. Apart from wearing a suit I don't see the connection. I was not comparing them by record...but by the fact they are perennial triers. Adkins record does not stand up to scrutiny for me. As much failure as success.....much of the success with a large budgeted team playing 2 divisions below it probable level. Had he taken Scunny to the Prem then i might get excited. Two Scunny promotions and then a relegation and a very near relegation...reversion to mean....perhaps he got lucky. Left them not much better than when he started. Cant get excited by what he did at Saints. Lets see. I think you are being unfair. Getting a team like Scunny to the Prem would not be possible in the current era unless they had a Bournemouth or Brentford sugar daddy. Whether his win record is 34% or 42%, either would almost certainly keep us up which is now the primary aim of the season. He seems to have been well-liked at his former clubs and, most recently, did well under tricky circumstances at Hull. |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Sept 4, 2019 19:43:02 GMT 1
Adkins is pretty uninspiring. Reasonable shout for keeping us up but we’ll lose a lot of season ticket holders, basically a 2019 version of Chris Powell.
If we are spending 30k a week on a manager surely we can get someone who can excite us and give the club a proper rocket.
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Post by 28901 on Sept 4, 2019 19:47:20 GMT 1
Lee Clark would swim the length of the Tyne to have a managerial record like Adkins. Apart from wearing a suit I don't see the connection. I was not comparing them by record...but by the fact they are perennial triers. Adkins record does not stand up to scrutiny for me. As much failure as success.....much of the success with a large budgeted team playing 2 divisions below it probable level. Had he taken Scunny to the Prem then i might get excited. Two Scunny promotions and then a relegation and a very near relegation...reversion to mean....perhaps he got lucky. Left them not much better than when he started. Cant get excited by what he did at Saints. Lets see. But everyone's raving about Cowleys. Adkins did exactly what they have, only one division higher, with a similar sized club at the similar stage in his career. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 4, 2019 19:50:51 GMT 1
Nigel Adkins? Have I woken up in 2010? 😬😁 Meh, at least it isn't going to be that twat Bowyer or Phil Parkinson. Another Lee Clark. Goalie/physio turned manager. Puts a suit on, trendy glasses and speaks well and everyone thinks he is the bees knees. Another insurance salesman. When will we learn? Adkins...rather have Hartley from Pipkins. I'm not arguing whether he's the right man or not, but you seem to be questioning his background, i.e. not having experience as an outfield player. Haven't you suggested that you could do a job as a manager in the professional game if given a chance? |
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Post by andyeastleake on Sept 4, 2019 19:51:01 GMT 1
Adkins record does not stand up to scrutiny for me. As much failure as success.....much of the success with a large budgeted team playing 2 divisions below it probable level. Had he taken Scunny to the Prem then i might get excited. Two Scunny promotions and then a relegation and a very near relegation...reversion to mean....perhaps he got lucky. Left them not much better than when he started. Well my memory, wikipedia and Sky sports yearbook has you wrong on a couple of counts Oti. I think Adkins was appointed manager when they were in the third tier, so only only one promotion. Brian Laws took Scunthorpe to the third tier. Adkins left Scunthorpe in late(ish) 2010 whilst Scunthorpe were still in the championship, so no relegation. Perhaps if you scrutinised the correct record it might stand up for you (although TBF & TBH you're not really one to let facts get in the way of your opinion are you  ). |
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