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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 10, 2019 9:01:17 GMT 1
Lots of excitement at the prospect of getting in two guys who have been successful at a lower level. But I've seen little discussion around the footballing methods which have brought that success. Personally I want Town to win some games. Full stop. I have fond memories of warnocks team. And buxtons team weren't averse to "getting it in the mixer". But I know to some on here style is everything . IF the cowleys continue to play the long game are we all happy?
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Post by Rigodon on Sept 10, 2019 9:06:03 GMT 1
I think own goal football which gets wins off opposition players arses will be acceptable now Ted.
It’s been said that they progressed from that long ball slightly, when at Lincoln - some posters have seen them play so could attest to that.
I too have fond memories of Warnock era, never entered my head about Tika taka etc back then. We are where we are, artisan football isn’t a thing when you are in our position IMO
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Post by Skint Terriers on Sept 10, 2019 9:07:09 GMT 1
They can play with whatever style they'd like as long as they get the players looking interested and they start getting results
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Post by diceman on Sept 10, 2019 9:10:23 GMT 1
Winning football is exciting football.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 10, 2019 9:12:38 GMT 1
As long as we can win a game and see few goals I don’t care or give a damn !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 9:23:00 GMT 1
Sean Dyche was pilloried for a few years for his style of play, but it's been supremely effective and Burnley are now an established EPL side.
I'd snap your hand off for that.
Success first, style a distant second in my book.
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Post by royrace on Sept 10, 2019 9:28:24 GMT 1
They seem fairly forward thinking so I'm guessing they'll take a horses for courses, needs must approach. I don't expect it to be long ball if they have quality footballers at their disposal but ultimately its about results. We're right in the shit at the moment and need to get points on the board sharpish.
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Post by E4b on Sept 10, 2019 9:39:43 GMT 1
We need excitement and we need it fast!
There is no style of football at the moment, can’t even put 3 passes together! We need to be entertained rather than look at the opposition and shit ourselves like we have done for far too long.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 10, 2019 9:47:13 GMT 1
Chips - what makes you think the Cowleys play long ball? They don’t. Their tactics are not centred around the long ball game. BUT they will use the long ball when it’s needed, whether that be in attack or defence. And what is wrong with that?
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 10, 2019 9:50:16 GMT 1
They can play how they bloody like as long as we start scoring and winning games. Passing for passing's sake doesn't do it for me. Fast free flowing football in the style of Liverpool and Man City is great to watch but we don't have that calibre of player, so we have to find a style that's effective and if that means chucking some long ball stuff into the mix then so be it.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Sept 10, 2019 9:55:08 GMT 1
I'm not even sure the players we have would make an effective long ball side, don't really see Mounie, Grant or Campbell as particularly effective target men. Hopefully this week will be long enough for the new coaches to get some idea of our strengths and weaknesses and make the best of it against Wednesday then take it from there. It is building a winning mentality that is the big challenge now.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Sept 10, 2019 10:00:02 GMT 1
Doesn't bother me what style we play as long the confidence returns and we win enough games not to get relegated. They can rename our club to Hoofersfield Town for all I care, it's results that matter in football at the end of the day.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 10, 2019 10:00:16 GMT 1
Chips - what makes you think the Cowleys play long ball? They don’t. Their tactics are not centred around the long ball game. BUT they will use the long ball when it’s needed, whether that be in attack or defence. And what is wrong with that? What makes me think it? All reports I've read (never seen them play) What's wrong with it? As I say I'm more bothered about winning games but not all are. Hence the question |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 10, 2019 10:06:08 GMT 1
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Post by drewden on Sept 10, 2019 10:09:54 GMT 1
I really hope they change the second half, where they attack towards the cowshed.
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Post by kdriveterrier on Sept 10, 2019 10:11:52 GMT 1
Cowleyys are pragmatists so If they play long ball football its for a reason.They played that way through non-league and league two because its effective at that level of football and it suited the players they have.They are also on record as saying that they had to modify there way of playing in league one because it is a step up from league two.
Going into the championship with better players at their disposal its less likely they will play long ball as a default style long term-If it is going to win a particular game or get the side out of a hole then they will play long ball so I would have no problem with that.
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Post by doniskebab on Sept 10, 2019 10:13:10 GMT 1
I went to the Lincoln cup game and was quite impressed with them. They seemed to be well drilled and adaptable to different styles, played a mixture of good passing football, created lots of chances but weren’t averse to hitting it long when required. I’m certain they will have plans B, C and D available if it isn’t working. They appear to be clued up on tactics and strategy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 10:14:51 GMT 1
We could play pass the parcel, as long as we don’t go down I don’t care
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Post by buckers on Sept 10, 2019 10:48:12 GMT 1
We need excitement and we need it fast! There is no style of football at the moment, can’t even put 3 passes together! We need to be entertained rather than look at the opposition and shit ourselves like we have done for far too long. Against reading we strung pass after pass together. After 20 mins of the first half we had over 80% possession. Possession football means sod all if you play it forward and then back all afternoon without scoring. This has been the problem with our coaching method for far too long. Also Town’s style of possession football is a dull as I’ve ever seen. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 11:11:04 GMT 1
We need excitement and we need it fast! There is no style of football at the moment, can’t even put 3 passes together! We need to be entertained rather than look at the opposition and shit ourselves like we have done for far too long. Against reading we strung pass after pass together. After 20 mins of the first half we had over 80% possession. Possession football means sod all if you play it forward and then back all afternoon without scoring. This has been the problem with our coaching method for far too long. Also Town’s style of possession football is a dull as I’ve ever seen.
Yup, I like possession footy, I liked DWs style and ideas, If the opposition don't have the ball you should minimise the chances they are able to create,,, alas the type of footy we have been implementing only really works well if your front 3 are comparable to Robben, Overmars and a Bergkamp/Levandowski, Otherwise, as we have seen, pretty pointless if you end up passing back to centre halves who aint really comfortable in possession and the only option then being back to the goalie resulting in a hopefull hoof.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Sept 10, 2019 11:42:01 GMT 1
Don't want to watch long ball football but I don't think that's going to happen. Didn't watch the cup game against Lincoln but saw a bit of the Everton game in the next round and they knocked it about a bit, weren't just hoofing up to a big lump up front.
We need an identity but it needs to move on from sterile possession football. It doesn't wear teams down, at least the way we play it, just gives the opposition time to figure us out and counter with a lot more purpose.
Don't want to see too many risks playing out from the back, want to see us working the channels a lot more (Grant rarely makes that run in behind the full back to take a centre back out wide) and attacking with purpose and the desire to have shots on goal.
We need wins and to get the confidence back in the players, along with clear instructions for players so they know what they should be doing and how we're planning on scoring goals and winning matches. That has been severely lacking for 18 months.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 10, 2019 12:15:38 GMT 1
I've seen Lincoln twice this season, once first hand where they took us to the cleaners in our own backyard & the televised game against Everton. In neither game would I describe them as a long ball team. They play with a high energy & in possession they keep it simple. They also clearly spend alot of time working on set pieces which will no doubt disappoint them when they get our lads on the training ground & realise we don't have any players who can deliver a decent deadball.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 10, 2019 12:21:10 GMT 1
As long as they stop this ridiculous insistence on passing it around our own box and to Hogg 12 yards out only for him to lose it, I'll be happy
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 12:48:43 GMT 1
As long as they stop this ridiculous insistence on passing it around our own box and to Hogg 12 yards out only for him to lose it, I'll be happy They will play to our strengths and not get bogged down in areas we are weak in. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 10, 2019 13:05:25 GMT 1
As long as they stop this ridiculous insistence on passing it around our own box and to Hogg 12 yards out only for him to lose it, I'll be happy They will play to our strengths and not get bogged down in areas we are weak in. Variation and tempo. Start there using what we have to its best attacking abilities. Defending up the pitch a bit more will help. |
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Post by harrythedog on Sept 10, 2019 13:14:28 GMT 1
Its the right ball at the right time whether its long or short but we do need to see a mix of styles along with some incisiveness in the last third because this possession rubbish we've had for two years is dull, dull, dull.
Huddersfield Town aren't ever going to play like what we see with Man City or Liverpool and the sooner everyone advocating one up front and possession Football realise it the better. Phil and the Cowley's will certainly have realised it.
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Post by sabailand on Sept 10, 2019 19:36:28 GMT 1
Lots of excitement at the prospect of getting in two guys who have been successful at a lower level. But I've seen little discussion around the footballing methods which have brought that success. Personally I want Town to win some games. Full stop. I have fond memories of warnocks team. And buxtons team weren't averse to "getting it in the mixer". But I know to some on here style is everything . IF the cowleys continue to play the long game are we all happy? I suppose it all depends if we get results, personally for me winning is number one priority, playing good football comes a distant second, if we do both great stuff but its imperative we get points on the board irrespective how. Agree about Warnock, when he took over he had a reputation for the long ball stuff but his alleged tactics paid off for us, a long awaited promotion and `two`trips to Wembley to boot. A first win on sunday irrespective how and we`d all be buzzing. |
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Post by aideybabes on Sept 10, 2019 19:41:21 GMT 1
Lots of excitement at the prospect of getting in two guys who have been successful at a lower level. But I've seen little discussion around the footballing methods which have brought that success. Personally I want Town to win some games. Full stop. I have fond memories of warnocks team. And buxtons team weren't averse to "getting it in the mixer". But I know to some on here style is everything . IF the cowleys continue to play the long game are we all happy? Points over style for me at the moment. We’ve fucked about with the tippy tappy, play out from the back, get to the half way line, look clueless than give it back the keeper for too long. I’m in the getting it into the mixer crowd for the immediate future, certainly until we get some points and out of the relegation zone. |
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Post by Maynardblue on Sept 10, 2019 20:10:16 GMT 1
Talking of playing to players strengths, If you were the Cowleys, what would you class as our strengths?
Serious question, not being sarcastic.
I would say our main strength is our pace at the front end KG, AD, IM, JK. And the fact that we have a goalscorer
To me that means early balls into the channels, low balls into the box etc. As opposed to possession football which suited us when Mooy was running the show.
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 10, 2019 20:38:20 GMT 1
Talking of playing to players strengths, If you were the Cowleys, what would you class as our strengths? Serious question, not being sarcastic. I would say our main strength is our pace at the front end KG, AD, IM, JK. And the fact that we have a goalscorer To me that means early balls into the channels, low balls into the box etc. As opposed to possession football which suited us when Mooy was running the show. Exactly. We have pace to burn. Should make use of it. |
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