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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 4, 2019 12:45:08 GMT 1
He's been saying similar for weeks.. Has he figured on our bench yet? Believe what you want to believe I believe what Danny Cowley is saying paying particular note of his comments about being extra cautious with certain types of player and him highlighting Kongolos positive attitude and work ethic. It’s the same reason that athletic players like James Vaughan used to seemingly jump from injury to injury whereas less explosive players can bounce back fully recovered from injuries in no time and have no ill effect. But, believe what you want to believe....I don’t see any evidence whatsoever of why anyone would assume what some seem to be assuming, in fact the evidence is the complete opposite. The word on the street is pretty conclusive. Cowley won't say anything other than he's Mr wonderful in order to try and hang on to any transfer fee we might be wanting.. But if you don't believe me that's cool
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 13:31:21 GMT 1
^^ and what do we say about Pritchard having actually played 45mins in a friendly and proven fitness but not made the bench?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 13:35:08 GMT 1
Terence Kongolo is the best player in the fucking league, never mind just at our club.
He’ll be back when he’s fit.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Nov 4, 2019 13:35:23 GMT 1
Goodness me, the power of social media. We know nothing about the player's current situation, other than what the manager has said (on more than one occasion) - "a great trainer/character/team man etc etc".And yet,with no evidence whatsoever, or even a hint of it, it's now being said that he wants out, has already signed for another club, drinks like a fish etc etc. I presume the laws of slander and libel still apply. By all means give an opinion, don't state suppositions as fact. But... There are people on here who do know what's happening behind the scenes. These people are " connected" in one way or another and they are privy to information which isn't made known to the press and plebs. Quite clearly they're never going to reveal their sources, nor would I ever expect them to do so, and those who would expect it are rather naïve. No, I know exactly who I'm going to believe...
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Post by Jack on Nov 4, 2019 13:52:36 GMT 1
Hasn't done the half time golden gamble so I reckon he is offski.
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Post by btwoowah on Nov 4, 2019 14:06:28 GMT 1
I think he’ll be leaving on loan in January with a view to a permanent move in the summer. Germany or Turkey would be my best guesses, outside chance of the Premier League.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 4, 2019 14:20:11 GMT 1
Goodness me, the power of social media. We know nothing about the player's current situation, other than what the manager has said (on more than one occasion) - "a great trainer/character/team man etc etc".And yet,with no evidence whatsoever, or even a hint of it, it's now being said that he wants out, has already signed for another club, drinks like a fish etc etc. I presume the laws of slander and libel still apply. By all means give an opinion, don't state suppositions as fact. But... There are people on here who do know what's happening behind the scenes. These people are " connected" in one way or another and they are privy to information which isn't made known to the press and plebs. Quite clearly they're never going to reveal their sources, nor would I ever expect them to do so, and those who would expect it are rather naïve. No, I know exactly who I'm going to believe... Like me
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Nov 4, 2019 14:42:01 GMT 1
^^ and what do we say about Pritchard having actually played 45mins in a friendly and proven fitness but not made the bench? He's been on the bench for three out of the last four games and the one where he wasn't he was ill.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 14:55:10 GMT 1
Goodness me, the power of social media. We know nothing about the player's current situation, other than what the manager has said (on more than one occasion) - "a great trainer/character/team man etc etc".And yet,with no evidence whatsoever, or even a hint of it, it's now being said that he wants out, has already signed for another club, drinks like a fish etc etc. I presume the laws of slander and libel still apply. By all means give an opinion, don't state suppositions as fact. But... There are people on here who do know what's happening behind the scenes. These people are " connected" in one way or another and they are privy to information which isn't made known to the press and plebs. Quite clearly they're never going to reveal their sources, nor would I ever expect them to do so, and those who would expect it are rather naïve. No, I know exactly who I'm going to believe... Without naming him, one of which dropped a very heavy hint on this thread.
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Post by Uddersfield on Nov 4, 2019 15:04:07 GMT 1
Any news on Jaden Brown's injury? I suppose if Kongolo doesn't come in then it must mean he's off?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 15:17:47 GMT 1
Any news on Jaden Brown's injury? I suppose if Kongolo doesn't come in then it must mean he's off? Not if Kongolo is still...…. 'Injured'.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Nov 4, 2019 15:18:27 GMT 1
Suspect some folk are jumping to conclusions....The following all direct quotes of Danny Cowley this last week. "Terence is back on the grass which is a positive. He is an incredible athlete but when you have players that are incredibly athletic you have to be extra cautious. Because when they have soft tissues injuries, the nature of the way they perform means they use their muscles very powerfully. We have had to be more cautious than we would have had liked. “But he is in a position now where he is fighting for his place in the team.": "I think Terence's attitude has been excellent, he has worked exceptionally hard with the medical team. "It is not easy being an injured player but his attitude and work ethic have been good. The positive is when you compare the team he left to the team he will be rejoining. We have got players playing toward the top of their game and there is a lot of competition. And I think that is good, that is really healthy and that is what you want in all positions. But Terence is a top player and top players always rise to the challenge." If you believe that I’ve got some magic beans you might be interested in buying...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 15:37:22 GMT 1
Suspect some folk are jumping to conclusions....The following all direct quotes of Danny Cowley this last week. "Terence is back on the grass which is a positive. He is an incredible athlete but when you have players that are incredibly athletic you have to be extra cautious. Because when they have soft tissues injuries, the nature of the way they perform means they use their muscles very powerfully. We have had to be more cautious than we would have had liked. “But he is in a position now where he is fighting for his place in the team.": "I think Terence's attitude has been excellent, he has worked exceptionally hard with the medical team. "It is not easy being an injured player but his attitude and work ethic have been good. The positive is when you compare the team he left to the team he will be rejoining. We have got players playing toward the top of their game and there is a lot of competition. And I think that is good, that is really healthy and that is what you want in all positions. But Terence is a top player and top players always rise to the challenge." If you believe that I’ve got some magic beans you might be interested in buying... Why wouldn’t I believe it, as a bog standard average fan like the vast majority of our support, with no links to anyone with insider knowledge, the only hints of anything different have been limited and guarded comments that sound like opinion spouted by people who don’t understand why some players might not immediately jump back into a team and think that injury recovery and prevention is a time span that is accurately defined and clicks down one week at a time to a known given return date, (Note...not really bothered if he leaves or not....I’ve never rated him as highly as his reputation, he’s an ok footballer who doesn’t have the concentration to be a top level centre half and doesn’t have the technique to be a top level full back...can take him or leave him)
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Post by royrace on Nov 4, 2019 16:07:48 GMT 1
Player probably wants to leave, the club very probably want to sell him and recoup a sizeable fee and saved wages. Not playing him is probably the sensible option bearing in mind we haven't needed him...yet. Danny is very clever is his press conferences and often casually chucks in curve balls to keep the opposition guessing. My guess is that behind the scenes they are all on the same page and he'll be off in Jan. The potential issue will be if we need him in the meantime. Hopefully some of any fee and saved wages will be used to strengthen elsewhere if that's what the manager wants. I dare say they already have a shopping list, I'd like to see someone like Maddison from Peterborough. If Kongolo is being a dick then the manager seems to be handling it expertly.
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Post by saintlyterrier on Nov 4, 2019 16:08:43 GMT 1
There's been a sound debate since my comments earlier today. Good, sensbile stuff. Let us hope the Cowleys recognise our concern about matters and, if possible, name our Terence on the bench for the next match. I recognise the two CB incumbents merit their positions at present, but competition wouldn't go amiss.
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Post by Tiro on Nov 4, 2019 16:49:01 GMT 1
But... There are people on here who do know what's happening behind the scenes. These people are " connected" in one way or another and they are privy to information which isn't made known to the press and plebs. Quite clearly they're never going to reveal their sources, nor would I ever expect them to do so, and those who would expect it are rather naïve. No, I know exactly who I'm going to believe... Without naming him, one of which dropped a very heavy hint on this thread. That's all well and good, but if you're not privy to who is ITK and who isn't, how do you expect people to separate the wheat from the chaff and determine what is and isn't speculation / BS? DATM shouldn't disparage posters for taking an opinion that is contrary to those ITK, if they don't know that information has come from someone ITK. I don't see why you can't name a poster and/or a particular post for reasons of clarity and to assist the discussion for a fellow Town fan, especially if they themselves are happy enough to show their hand on a public forum? Its not as if they have revealed their source and I'm assuming their handle is anonymous and they are happy to divulge what info' they have. It's all very cloak and dagger.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 16:59:21 GMT 1
Without naming him, one of which dropped a very heavy hint on this thread. That's all well and good, but if you're not privy to who is ITK and who isn't, how do you expect people to separate the wheat from the chaff and determine what is and isn't speculation / BS? DATM shouldn't disparage posters for taking an opinion that is contrary to those ITK, if they don't know that information has come from someone ITK. I don't see why you can't, for reasons of clarity and to assist the discussion for a fellow Town fan, reference a particular post by a particular poster if they themselves are happy enough to show their hand on a public forum? It's all very cloak and dagger. You MAY Need to go back to page one and start again, it's h ARDly rocket science.
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Post by Uddersfield on Nov 4, 2019 17:04:32 GMT 1
Player probably wants to leave, the club very probably want to sell him and recoup a sizeable fee and saved wages. Not playing him is probably the sensible option bearing in mind we haven't needed him...yet. Danny is very clever is his press conferences and often casually chucks in curve balls to keep the opposition guessing. My guess is that behind the scenes they are all on the same page and he'll be off in Jan. The potential issue will be if we need him in the meantime. Hopefully some of any fee and saved wages will be used to strengthen elsewhere if that's what the manager wants. I dare say they already have a shopping list, I'd like to see someone like Maddison from Peterborough. If Kongolo is being a dick then the manager seems to be handling it expertly. I have a feeling we might go for Maddison. Cowley said they went and watched a few Peterborough players the other week in Examiner "We watched Peterborough against Lincoln, which was a good opportunity for us to have a look at some players in the Peterborough team, which is certainly something we've wanted to do," explained Cowley. - www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/danny-cowley-watches-league-one-17111620
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Post by Maynardblue on Nov 4, 2019 17:22:40 GMT 1
Cowleys are big fans of maddison and Toney but posh asking mega money. Pushing 10m each
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Nov 4, 2019 17:24:19 GMT 1
That's all well and good, but if you're not privy to who is ITK and who isn't, how do you expect people to separate the wheat from the chaff and determine what is and isn't speculation / BS? DATM shouldn't disparage posters for taking an opinion that is contrary to those ITK, if they don't know that information has come from someone ITK. I don't see why you can't, for reasons of clarity and to assist the discussion for a fellow Town fan, reference a particular post by a particular poster if they themselves are happy enough to show their hand on a public forum? It's all very cloak and dagger. You MAY Need to go back to page one and start again, it's h ARDly rocket science. Subtle. Very subtle...
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Nov 4, 2019 17:24:55 GMT 1
Cowleys are big fans of maddison and Toney but posh asking mega money. Pushing 10m each And, right on cue!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 17:28:09 GMT 1
You MAY Need to go back to page one and start again, it's h ARDly rocket science. Subtle. Very subtle... SHhhhh!
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Post by Mastercracker on Nov 4, 2019 17:39:31 GMT 1
Cowleys are big fans of maddison and Toney but posh asking mega money. Pushing 10m each Maddison out of contract in June isn't he? They don't have a hope of £10m in January!
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Post by Uddersfield on Nov 4, 2019 17:51:29 GMT 1
Cowleys are big fans of maddison and Toney but posh asking mega money. Pushing 10m each Maddison out of contract in June isn't he? They don't have a hope of £10m in January! What happened to this £2m release clause that Maddison had? Personally, i'd prioritise Maddison over Toney
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Post by Mastercracker on Nov 4, 2019 18:02:35 GMT 1
Maddison out of contract in June isn't he? They don't have a hope of £10m in January! What happened to this £2m release clause that Maddison had? Personally, i'd prioritise Maddison over Toney I might be wrong but I think that was time specific and it expired. He is out of contract in June though I've just checked on transfermarkt.
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Post by nicovaesen on Nov 4, 2019 18:07:20 GMT 1
Cowleys are big fans of maddison and Toney but posh asking mega money. Pushing 10m each See how much kongolo will go for (if in deed he’s off) then put that against those too
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Post by tobbyg on Nov 4, 2019 19:28:55 GMT 1
Cowleys are big fans of maddison and Toney but posh asking mega money. Pushing 10m each See how much kongolo will go for (if in deed he’s off) then put that against those too I don’t think we’ll spend even close to 10m on a player again even if we got 50m for Kongolo (unless we get promoted again)
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Post by terriersyndrome on Nov 4, 2019 20:22:00 GMT 1
Cowleys are big fans of maddison and Toney but posh asking mega money. Pushing 10m each Maddison is out of contract at the end of the season. They won't get anywhere near £10m for him.
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Post by Maynardblue on Nov 4, 2019 20:25:58 GMT 1
Cowleys are big fans of maddison and Toney but posh asking mega money. Pushing 10m each Maddison is out of contract at the end of the season. They won't get anywhere near £10m for him. McAnthony will ask for mega money in Jan. Won't let him go on the cheap.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Nov 4, 2019 21:45:43 GMT 1
Maddison is out of contract at the end of the season. They won't get anywhere near £10m for him. McAnthony will ask for mega money in Jan. Won't let him go on the cheap. If he prices clubs out of a move & prevents the player from progressing his career then he'll have an unhappy squad member for the rest of the season who'll be able to leave for free in the summer. It wouldn't make sense. He's got a £2.5m release clause in his contract anyway apparently. www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/you-never-know-marcus-maddison-17146433
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