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Post by ram on Dec 10, 2019 11:05:47 GMT 1
surely the buck stops with the chairman? failure of any organisation to do the basics at any level has to be down to those at the very top, in towns case the chairman and the board. Did Dean have an almighty brainfart? We were shockingly unprepared in all departments. I think he may have had a bit of an illness.  Leicester's chairman/owner died in a helicopter crash...Doesn't seem to have done them any harm. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Dec 10, 2019 11:13:07 GMT 1
I think he may have had a bit of an illness. Leicester's chairman/owner died in a helicopter crash...Doesn't seem to have done them any harm. my thoughts exactly. Nobody (including myself) is dissing Dean Hoyle and what he did overall in his time as chairman, but jesus he fucked up big time in trusting staff under him to be able to get the job done without him. They were not good enough, end of. |
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Post by ram on Dec 10, 2019 11:23:33 GMT 1
I wonder if the same Leicester would let Marc Albrighton go..That lad can cross a ball,and take corners....Just what we need.He is generally a sub for them..Loan perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 11:44:02 GMT 1
I honestly don't see who is going to buy Mounie? He plays like a blind man in rigger boots and hasn't scored nigh on 2 years, who is seriously going to part with any cash for him. The club really need to back the Cowleys in January with some funds and help them get rid of a few. Granted it was mighty late in that game 90+1 mins. You may have missed it if you left early! He did, and also scored against Burnley in January from an Isaac Mbenza cross. |
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Post by Moooooy on Dec 10, 2019 11:48:39 GMT 1
I wonder if the same Leicester would let Marc Albrighton go..That lad can cross a ball,and take corners....Just what we need.He is generally a sub for them..Loan perhaps? Would be a great signing but I suspect there’d be a queue of Premier League teams wanting to take him. I also can’t see him wanting to drop down to a Championship relegation battle. |
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Post by linson on Dec 10, 2019 11:51:18 GMT 1
So....
Any genuine links to players yet?
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 10, 2019 12:01:45 GMT 1
I honestly don't see who is going to buy Mounie? He plays like a blind man in rigger boots and hasn't scored nigh on 2 years, who is seriously going to part with any cash for him. The club really need to back the Cowleys in January with some funds and help them get rid of a few. Didn't he score against Wolves in February? Granted it was mighty late in that game 90+1 mins. You may have missed it if you left early! Is that one goal in 2 years much of an improvement that none in real terms? No disrespect to Mounie as I quite like him but the drought will not have perspective suitors flocking. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 12:17:34 GMT 1
No one is still alive from them days so we can't quantify, we'll go with Martin as the best Smith so far. Coddingtontripper was Billy's father was better.  |
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Post by Rambo on Dec 10, 2019 12:43:28 GMT 1
The manager chooses the tactics, which dictate the physical/technical attributes of the players he needs. The DoF uses his network to identify potential players. The analytics people assess the physical/technical attributes of those players to see whether they fit the mould. What the analytics people can't assess is a player's personality/temperament. For that, either the manager or the DoF taps into their contacts to find out what the player is like behind the scenes. It's the same as any employer trying to distinguish between similar CVs - you see if you know anyone who knows that candidate and, if so, you pick up the phone and ask them what they're like. First season we sign a lot of players from Germany - I suspect that Wagner (whose playing and coaching career was primarily in Germany) got in touch with a few contacts to ask what they are like. The result is that we sign players who are great on and off the pitch. Second season we move away from German players, so I suspect it was Moss tapping into his contacts to see what the players signed from abroad are "really" like. I think Depoitre is an example of this. Third season (and second half of second season), we don't have a DoF and the majority of players are signed from places where I suspect nobody had any contacts. The result is we sign on the basis of attributes (I suspect, bluntly, "we need pace in the team") with little idea of what those players are like on the training ground/behind the scenes. Irrespective of his job title (99% of job titles are meaningless anyway), blaming the analytics guy for not identifying players with the right attitude is like blaming a builder for not designing the building properly. The fault lies either with the person setting the spec for the type of player they want, or with the person who failed to bring in a DoF with the necessary contacts to do the job properly. On the whole it sounds a simple process right? |
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Post by Rambo on Dec 10, 2019 12:55:44 GMT 1
Didn't he score against Wolves in February? Granted it was mighty late in that game 90+1 mins. You may have missed it if you left early! Is that one goal in 2 years much of an improvement that none in real terms? No disrespect to Mounie as I quite like him but the drought will not have perspective suitors flocking. Have you now changed your argument, as that wasn't what you said previously? Besides which he also scored last season against Burnley.  |
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Post by royrace on Dec 10, 2019 13:58:43 GMT 1
Didn't he score against Wolves in February? Granted it was mighty late in that game 90+1 mins. You may have missed it if you left early! He did, and also scored against Burnley in January from an Isaac Mbenza cross. Ah yes that Isaac Mbenza cross, what a collectors item that was. That was proof enough for plenty on here to convince themselves he was worth the £10M we paid  Was a cracking cross to be fair but fcuking expensive! Glad I was there to see it! Also he once beat a man at Old Trafford  |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Dec 10, 2019 14:07:51 GMT 1
He did, and also scored against Burnley in January from an Isaac Mbenza cross. Ah yes that Isaac Mbenza cross, what a collectors item that was. That was proof enough for plenty on here to convince themselves he was worth the £10M we paid Was a cracking cross to be fair but fcuking expensive! Glad I was there to see it! Also he once beat a man at Old Trafford and he scored against the mancs...  |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 10, 2019 14:17:16 GMT 1
He did, and also scored against Burnley in January from an Isaac Mbenza cross. Ah yes that Isaac Mbenza cross, what a collectors item that was. That was proof enough for plenty on here to convince themselves he was worth the £10M we paid Was a cracking cross to be fair but fcuking expensive! Glad I was there to see it! Also he once beat a man at Old Trafford I don't know, we got £10m for someone that never beat a man OR put in a cracking cross 😉 |
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Post by Uddersfield on Dec 10, 2019 14:19:50 GMT 1
Ah yes that Isaac Mbenza cross, what a collectors item that was. That was proof enough for plenty on here to convince themselves he was worth the £10M we paid Was a cracking cross to be fair but fcuking expensive! Glad I was there to see it! Also he once beat a man at Old Trafford and he scored against the mancs... And was still the worst player on the pitch.. |
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Post by Uddersfield on Dec 10, 2019 17:11:53 GMT 1
Full back Niko Hamalainen linked from QPR who's currently on loan at Kilmarnock
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 10, 2019 17:54:16 GMT 1
Full back Niko Hamalainen linked from QPR who's currently on loan at Kilmarnock Does he Finnish well? |
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Post by ldotm on Dec 10, 2019 18:24:19 GMT 1
Full back Niko Hamalainen linked from QPR who's currently on loan at Kilmarnock Does he Finnish well? He's not finished, he's only 28. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 10, 2019 18:26:55 GMT 1
He's not finished, he's only 28. One of the best bits of radio ever |
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Post by benhomly on Dec 10, 2019 18:28:50 GMT 1
Full back Niko Hamalainen linked from QPR who's currently on loan at Kilmarnock Made more appearances for Finland (U18 upwards) since 2015 than he has in 5 years in England/Scotland since 2014. 22 appearances since 2014. There'll be uproar on here if true. |
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Post by Camel Grabber on Dec 10, 2019 18:58:24 GMT 1
If we could have any chance of this happening, I would be tempted to get Matt Ritchie on loan. Only appeared 3 times for Newcastle this season and is fantastic at this level, would definitely fit the way we play and would create and also actually put chances away
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Post by leroy212 on Dec 10, 2019 19:29:08 GMT 1
If we could have any chance of this happening, I would be tempted to get Matt Ritchie on loan. Only appeared 3 times for Newcastle this season and is fantastic at this level, would definitely fit the way we play and would create and also actually put chances away Sure I read somewhere he is injured |
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Post by Camel Grabber on Dec 10, 2019 19:31:29 GMT 1
If we could have any chance of this happening, I would be tempted to get Matt Ritchie on loan. Only appeared 3 times for Newcastle this season and is fantastic at this level, would definitely fit the way we play and would create and also actually put chances away Sure I read somewhere he is injured Maybe .. wasn't sure on that |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 10, 2019 19:44:27 GMT 1
If we could have any chance of this happening, I would be tempted to get Matt Ritchie on loan. Only appeared 3 times for Newcastle this season and is fantastic at this level, would definitely fit the way we play and would create and also actually put chances away Sure I read somewhere he is injured He'd still get a game 😁 |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 10, 2019 20:04:15 GMT 1
Full back Niko Hamalainen linked from QPR who's currently on loan at Kilmarnock Made more appearances for Finland (U18 upwards) since 2015 than he has in 5 years in England/Scotland since 2014. 22 appearances since 2014. There'll be uproar on here if true. To be honest I think you're right, there would be. We need to get away from signing players like this. Give Cowley some bloody money to spend. |
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Post by townrwe on Dec 10, 2019 20:11:08 GMT 1
Cowleys have been watching marcus maddison more than a few times as well.
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Post by ldotm on Dec 10, 2019 20:14:12 GMT 1
We will clearly be looking at left back options, considering Brown is the only out and out left back in the squad. So what about Lloyd Kelly on loan from Bournemouth? Signed for big money from Brizzle City and doesn’t feature at all.
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Post by E4b on Dec 10, 2019 20:20:21 GMT 1
Made more appearances for Finland (U18 upwards) since 2015 than he has in 5 years in England/Scotland since 2014. 22 appearances since 2014. There'll be uproar on here if true. To be honest I think you're right, there would be. We need to get away from signing players like this. Give Cowley some bloody money to spend. Maynardblue will confirm this is another load of tosh soon I reckon. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 10, 2019 20:47:58 GMT 1
To be honest I think you're right, there would be. We need to get away from signing players like this. Give Cowley some bloody money to spend. Maynardblue will confirm this is another load of tosh soon I reckon. Thank goodness, we need quality. |
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Post by terriers2000 on Dec 10, 2019 20:55:04 GMT 1
Cowleys have been watching marcus maddison more than a few times as well. £2.5 million clause in his contract |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Dec 10, 2019 23:11:53 GMT 1
I think he may have had a bit of an illness. Leicester's chairman/owner died in a helicopter crash...Doesn't seem to have done them any harm. what a strange comment Nobody knew he was ill outside a small group Manager going home I don’t think we were an established prem club who have 100 million pound players Beyond that solid comparison |
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Was a cracking cross to be fair but fcuking expensive! Glad I was there to see it! Also he once beat a man at Old Trafford 
