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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Dec 13, 2019 23:01:04 GMT 1
Brilliant. Maynard was never far out was he? Cheers Cyril
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 13, 2019 23:01:39 GMT 1
Feel free to ask ?
Truth seeking and bullshit busting.
Of all the untruths and bullshit that permutates this forum - You bizarrely pick out Maynard? Someone's truth radar is truly fooked! Well done you!  Maynard broke the rules and told the truth, which we all sort of knew anyway about Dave. You cannot sully his memory. He authorised the purchase of players and then changed his mind, fell out with some of his staff and it went tits up. It happens, accept it and move on whilst remembering the good times he set up here. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 13, 2019 23:15:25 GMT 1
I wonder if Cyril is a pedantic prick in real life as well as on line?
Feel free to ask ?
Truth seeking and bullshit busting.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 13, 2019 23:15:51 GMT 1
Of all the untruths and bullshit that permutates this forum - You bizarrely pick out Maynard? Someone's truth radar is truly fooked! Well done you! Maynard broke the rules and told the truth, which we all sort of knew anyway about Dave. You cannot sully his memory. He authorised the purchase of players and then changed his mind, fell out with some of his staff and it went tits up. It happens, accept it and move on whilst remembering the good times he set up here. I wonder who he blames for signing Paurevic then if Dave was infallible 🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 23:16:25 GMT 1
Feel free to ask ?
Truth seeking and bullshit busting.
Of all the untruths and bullshit that permutates this forum - You bizarrely pick out Maynard? Someone's truth radar is truly fooked! Well done you!
For what ? Saying he stated " Wagner IDd Mbenza and Diakhaby ", As said before, He didn't ID them did he.
Where we went wrong,, From watching and meeting players to looking at videos from hundreds of players from statistical databases.
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Post by ritchie on Dec 13, 2019 23:28:44 GMT 1
Of all the untruths and bullshit that permutates this forum - You bizarrely pick out Maynard? Someone's truth radar is truly fooked! Well done you!
For what ? Saying he stated " Wagner IDd Mbenza and Diakhaby ", As said before, He didn't ID them did he.
Where we went wrong,, From watching and meeting players to looking at videos from hundreds of players from statistical databases.
My understading is wagners workload was so high once we got to the PL that he couldnt 'identify' players like he might have done in his first summer.....he identified players out of the group given to him, so how exactly is maynard talking bullshit? what are you trying to gain here? its undeniable maynard has given countless amounts of spot on info over many years, and thats just the stuff he posts publicly again, what are you trying to gain here? or just arguing for the sake of it? |
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Post by est1908 on Dec 13, 2019 23:29:59 GMT 1
When we lost at Fulham, last day of the season under Bruce and missed out on a play off place for a shot at the PL, becoming the first Championship team to be top on Boxing Day and not get promoted, the most angry and disillusioned I've ever been with a Town players was watching the likes of George Donis walk off, laughing and joking with each other, not a care in the World in front of thousands of heartbroken Town fans. I'd be quite happy to pass on my farewell's to some of the current crop of couldn't give a toss players pitch side. Donis can't have played that day?  |
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Post by townrwe on Dec 13, 2019 23:32:23 GMT 1
Dont worry lads, he will re-register as supernovak and continue to deliver the truth.
His success rate is nowhere near my 96.57%... but he comes in a close 3rd.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Dec 13, 2019 23:33:20 GMT 1
Of all the untruths and bullshit that permutates this forum - You bizarrely pick out Maynard? Someone's truth radar is truly fooked! Well done you!
For what ? Saying he stated " Wagner IDd Mbenza and Diakhaby ", As said before, He didn't ID them did he.
Where we went wrong,, From watching and meeting players to looking at videos from hundreds of players from statistical databases.
 Wagner had the final say on incoming transfers as every manager of Town has ALWAYS had! Pedantics in the extreme has caused one of this forum's biggest assets for inside info to say he's leaving solely because of your actions and pathetic nit picking! Again - Well done you! Bullshit busting my arse... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 23:38:49 GMT 1
For what ? Saying he stated " Wagner IDd Mbenza and Diakhaby ", As said before, He didn't ID them did he.
Where we went wrong,, From watching and meeting players to looking at videos from hundreds of players from statistical databases.
My understading is wagners workload was so high once we got to the PL that he couldnt 'identify' players like he might have done in his first summer.....he identified players out of the group given to him, so how exactly is maynard talking bullshit? what are you trying to gain here? its undeniable maynard has given countless amounts of spot on info over many years, and thats just the stuff he posts publicly again, what are you trying to gain here? or just arguing for the sake of it?
Totally agree with your first paragraph, Its what happened.
And if somebody posts some bull I have every right to call it shyte whatever they have posted in the past.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 13, 2019 23:46:28 GMT 1
My understading is wagners workload was so high once we got to the PL that he couldnt 'identify' players like he might have done in his first summer.....he identified players out of the group given to him, so how exactly is maynard talking bullshit? what are you trying to gain here? its undeniable maynard has given countless amounts of spot on info over many years, and thats just the stuff he posts publicly again, what are you trying to gain here? or just arguing for the sake of it?
Totally agree with your first paragraph, Its what happened.
And if somebody posts some bull I have every right to call it shyte whatever they have posted in the past.
Wagner watched all the material on them, wanted wide players and authorised the signing of them. Just prior to the season starting there was a fall out or two about changing his mind, tactically. It started going to shite and got progressively worse. He got us up in a joint effort and he took us down in a joint effort. We dont sign players the manager will not sign off on. Not sure what your angle is as it's pretty obvious and everyone knows? |
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Post by ritchie on Dec 13, 2019 23:46:33 GMT 1
My understading is wagners workload was so high once we got to the PL that he couldnt 'identify' players like he might have done in his first summer.....he identified players out of the group given to him, so how exactly is maynard talking bullshit? what are you trying to gain here? its undeniable maynard has given countless amounts of spot on info over many years, and thats just the stuff he posts publicly again, what are you trying to gain here? or just arguing for the sake of it?
Totally agree with your first paragraph, Its what happened.
And if somebody posts some bull I have every right to call it shyte whatever they have posted in the past.
odd. lets say for arguments sake maynard posted somthing that was way off the mark (not saying he has) has he not proven his worth as a credible poster enough to be given the benefit of the doubt and not cop shit off off folk and be branded a bullshitter? |
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Post by sapphireblue on Dec 14, 2019 0:37:23 GMT 1
Well that's fucked it 🤬 Getting info from Maynardblue was as near to getting info from the horses mouth as you can get. Don't think Cyril has a clue what damage he's potentially done to this forum. Sadly, I think the tw*t does. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Dec 14, 2019 1:09:42 GMT 1
Are you Barry Sheerman ?
So now you agree Wagner did not ID Mbenza or Diakhaby and we have 100s on our list, How the fooey does a manager suss out the wheat from the chaff characterwise when he is as busy as fuck and we have loads of potential signings to chew through ?
So Wagner said no more than we need two fast wingers, And somebody else picked em from their stats ?
Thank fuck the Cowleys only came when they had the final say on all signings.
So im full of shite, a bull shitter and I'm Barry Sheerman? Do you think these lists are on paper written in crayon?. We're talking databases with myriad stats and algorithms used to highlight players with certain characteristics. Wagner identified the ones he wanted from the database and insisted on the signings. I have better things to do than explain basics like this to cynics like you so I think it's time i left datm so I don't have to listen to your petty insults. Apologies to the good guys but it's adiós folks. Maynard You are a good poster but clearly a bit sensitive as this is the first time someone has questioned your view,. I agree that wagner in no way identified these players.. that is not his job, he may however have agreed to them being signed as there were no other real options. Dont sign off Maynard we know you know your stuff and we appreciate it. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 14, 2019 1:51:50 GMT 1
So im full of shite, a bull shitter and I'm Barry Sheerman? Do you think these lists are on paper written in crayon?. We're talking databases with myriad stats and algorithms used to highlight players with certain characteristics. Wagner identified the ones he wanted from the database and insisted on the signings. I have better things to do than explain basics like this to cynics like you so I think it's time i left datm so I don't have to listen to your petty insults. Apologies to the good guys but it's adiós folks. Maynard You are a good poster but clearly a bit sensitive as this is the first time someone has questioned your view,. I agree that wagner in no way identified these players.. that is not his job, he may however have agreed to them being signed as there were no other real options. Dont sign off Maynard we know you know your stuff and we appreciate it. There were a number of options we were a premiership club. He selected the players he wanted. Even Saints have off days.. |
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Post by cissystrutt74 on Dec 14, 2019 2:20:42 GMT 1
It's not a problem people
We've still got townrwe for info
And on the plus side, as has been demonstrated before, you can abuse the fuck out of him and he won't flounce off, he comes back for more!
I salute you sir!
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Post by E4b on Dec 14, 2019 7:06:17 GMT 1
Time for Brodie81 to step in. This lad hasn’t been too far off the mark in the past.
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Post by mids on Dec 14, 2019 7:46:43 GMT 1
Time for Brodie81 to step in. This lad hasn’t been too far off the mark in the past. Brodie is good. He's a pr(r)ofessional, especially with Cowley involved. But even he doesn't give us the word up like cameo does...and Maynard does/did |
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Post by ringdisco on Dec 14, 2019 8:54:39 GMT 1
So im full of shite, a bull shitter and I'm Barry Sheerman? Do you think these lists are on paper written in crayon?. We're talking databases with myriad stats and algorithms used to highlight players with certain characteristics. Wagner identified the ones he wanted from the database and insisted on the signings. I have better things to do than explain basics like this to cynics like you so I think it's time i left datm so I don't have to listen to your petty insults. Apologies to the good guys but it's adiós folks. Maynard
Oh so what you originally said was not true, As I knew.
I take it Bockhorn has fantastic stats on the database.
See yah, Sorry to all the guys who hang on your every word,
Up the Cowleys and the personal touch they will once again bring to the table, Am pretty sure the brothers, At least one of em will talk to all our potential signings rather than trust the database utilised by budding championship manager devotees.
The fuck is your problem? Just confirming that a lot of people on the whole, are garbage. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Dec 14, 2019 9:12:09 GMT 1
I wonder if Cyril is a pedantic prick in real life as well as on line?
Feel free to ask ?
Truth seeking and bullshit busting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 9:36:17 GMT 1
@q8402984 well done you weapons grade spunk trumpet made one of the very few in the know people on here throw the towel in. Hopefully you will also jog on 🤬
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Post by ldotm on Dec 14, 2019 9:36:32 GMT 1
Dont worry lads, he will re-register as supernovak and continue to deliver the truth. His success rate is nowhere near my 96.57%... but he comes in a close 3rd. You’ve honestly got a screw lose. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 10:14:24 GMT 1
So im full of shite, a bull shitter and I'm Barry Sheerman? Do you think these lists are on paper written in crayon?. We're talking databases with myriad stats and algorithms used to highlight players with certain characteristics. Wagner identified the ones he wanted from the database and insisted on the signings. I have better things to do than explain basics like this to cynics like you so I think it's time i left datm so I don't have to listen to your petty insults. Apologies to the good guys but it's adiós folks. Maynard You are a good poster but clearly a bit sensitive as this is the first time someone has questioned your view,. I agree that wagner in no way identified these players.. that is not his job, he may however have agreed to them being signed as there were no other real options. Dont sign off Maynard we know you know your stuff and we appreciate it. Questioning someone's view is one thing, slinging foul insults is another. |
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Post by Uddersfield on Dec 14, 2019 10:26:02 GMT 1
There are a lot of bullshitters on this forum but Maynard is definitely one of the good ones. Spilled the Cowley’s U Turn a long time before anything official was announced.
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Post by Champers on Dec 14, 2019 10:29:01 GMT 1
Jesus, you spend 24 hours away from this site at your peril!
Hope Maynard comes back, I'm sure (almost) everyone is grateful for the knowledge he shares so for one person to ruin that, well, it's a bit shit. Give your head a wobble, Cyril you peen.
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Post by royrace on Dec 14, 2019 10:43:32 GMT 1
Am pretty sure and hoping the Cowleys will be meeting all and sundry who we may be signing from now on in person.
Not just going off stats, However reliable they are.
Like Wagner, they have the final say. Like Wagner, they'll be selecting from a data base / lists. Like Wagner, not every signing will be right. Surely it's not as simple as selecting from a database?! I can imagine that being the first part, particularly when it's a market you're not familiar with but surely that is the very first step in the process? After that initial ID would come the live scouting, research, due diligence surely? Mbenza alone cost TEN million pounds, plus crazy wages. If the club is simply picking players from a database and going with it then it would explain a lot! I guess we'll never know exactly what happened that summer but personally I think it's unrealistic to blame just one person particularly when you look at the dof situation. Also Mbenza was signed so very late I find it hard to believe he was first choice. And I know what Dean said but he can be forgiven for treating fans like mushrooms now and again. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 10:50:04 GMT 1
DW should just have said 'I want Matt Philips and Robert Snodgrass'. He'd have got them for the fees and wages we spent on Diakbenza and Sobhi, and we'd still be in the PL.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Dec 14, 2019 10:53:26 GMT 1
When we lost at Fulham, last day of the season under Bruce and missed out on a play off place for a shot at the PL, becoming the first Championship team to be top on Boxing Day and not get promoted, the most angry and disillusioned I've ever been with a Town players was watching the likes of George Donis walk off, laughing and joking with each other, not a care in the World in front of thousands of heartbroken Town fans. I'd be quite happy to pass on my farewell's to some of the current crop of couldn't give a toss players pitch side. Donis can't have played that day? No he didn't, appropriately enough I believe he last graced the Town team on April Fools Day against Grimsby, it was a large group of subs and squad members that walked behind the goals right in front of the Town fans - I'm sure those that were there would have seen it, |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 11:10:38 GMT 1
Like Wagner, they have the final say. Like Wagner, they'll be selecting from a data base / lists. Like Wagner, not every signing will be right. Surely it's not as simple as selecting from a database?! I can imagine that being the first part, particularly when it's a market you're not familiar with but surely that is the very first step in the process? After that initial ID would come the live scouting, research, due diligence surely? Mbenza alone cost TEN million pounds, plus crazy wages. If the club is simply picking players from a database and going with it then it would explain a lot! I guess we'll never know exactly what happened that summer but personally I think it's unrealistic to blame just one person particularly when you look at the dof situation. Also Mbenza was signed so very late I find it hard to believe he was first choice. And I know what Dean said but he can be forgiven for treating fans like mushrooms now and again. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards Of course it's not that simple. At the end of the day he will have a decision to make on what would have been whittled down to a short list. |
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Post by Champers on Dec 14, 2019 11:54:36 GMT 1
I'm not privy to our scouting methods, but I know in days gone by we (along with many other clubs) have used the Football Manager database to identify which players to go and watch. We were featured in a documentary called "An Alternative Reality" where it showed exactly how the FM database was used to work out our shortlists.
I've no idea if this was common knowledge but I always find it amusing when people throw out Football Manager comparisons in jest, when the truth isn't actually that far off. If anyone is interested in the documentary then have a look. That software has a more active role in the modern game than some would believe.
Edit: The Town part is at around 59 minutes in
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