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Post by Camel Grabber on Jan 3, 2020 12:34:35 GMT 1
Brighton have said Glenn Murray can leave, would deffo have him here regardless of his age and use mooy as leverage for a deal!
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Post by willo on Jan 3, 2020 12:37:22 GMT 1
This window is crucial make no mistake about it. We are firmly in a relegation battle anyone who believes otherwise is deluded. I’d go so far as to say this transfer window will absolutely define our season. If we have a poor window, ie sell better players and replace with inferior from the lower leagues, not sign the number of players required with the experience we need right now, etc, I think we potentially face the possibility of the management team walking. From DC’s post match interview after the Stoke game, he certainly sees this window as being extremely important and hinted at certain promises made before he and his brother took on their roles that funds would be provided by the Chairman. I’m certainly not panicking, it’s only January 3, but the right new recruits must be brought in asap and preferably well in advance of Jan 31. A Jason Puncheon will not cut it this January (when in effect it didn’t 12 months ago). |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jan 3, 2020 12:37:22 GMT 1
Brighton have said Glenn Murray can leave, would deffo have him here regardless of his age and use mooy as leverage for a deal! Might help that David Webb worked with Graham Potter at Ostersunds too. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jan 3, 2020 12:40:09 GMT 1
Brighton have said Glenn Murray can leave, would deffo have him here regardless of his age and use mooy as leverage for a deal! 36 years old however would be more than happy to take him till the end of the season, experienced head to steady the ship and bring his experience and knowhow to the team. |
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Post by boooothy on Jan 3, 2020 12:40:53 GMT 1
We got our moneys worth out of Chris Lowe. Grant was an investment we will get a very good return on. Who says Grant wants to leave, or are you just making that up? The latter. Lots of folk thinking 2+2=5 on here, with far too much spare time pondering and second guessing our club and their players. Lyle Taylor was asked why Karlan Grant signed for us when we were likely to be in the same division the following year. He said Grant wanted to score goals in the last 5 months of the Premier League season and catch the eye of another Premier League team. Nothing wrong with that but clear he doesn’t want to stay at Town longer than he has to. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 12:41:42 GMT 1
We got our moneys worth out of Chris Lowe. Grant was an investment we will get a very good return on. Who says Grant wants to leave, or are you just making that up? We are too nice. I know it hasn’t worked out but Heff was worth a million pounds easy when we sold him for half that. Just to let him get a nice contract. No one is doing us any favours. Grant wants to play in the Premier League, just like every other player. He’s just more open about it. Either point out where Grant has 'openly said' he wants to leave or i smell bullshit! We got our moneys worth out of Heff. Check his playing record sinxe he left. |
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Post by willo on Jan 3, 2020 12:43:41 GMT 1
Brighton have said Glenn Murray can leave, would deffo have him here regardless of his age and use mooy as leverage for a deal! 36 years old however would be more than happy to take him till the end of the season, experienced head to steady the ship and bring his experience and knowhow to the team. Glenn Murray would be a very good signing for us but would he come back North after many years in the South playing for BHA & Palace? Not sure but we should at least be asking the question. |
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Post by impact on Jan 3, 2020 12:47:14 GMT 1
I really don't understand why we didn't have deals ready to go as soon as the window opened. We are desperately short and needed players in in time to play against Saints, in order to be ready for Barnsley next week. This window is going to be a total bust again, isn't it? Quite simply because it is really not that simple! If it were, surely we would have seen a far greater number of deals confirmed on the stroke of midnight? Deals may well be agreed in principle, but there are many events in a chain that are circumstantial and reliant on third parties - even for loan deals (we've heard about the Kieran Dowell saga). Not many clubs are willing to rush into 'done deals' pre-window and why would they when the melee of the market may produce a more suitable alternative, especially for those more desirable. And on balance, having players ready to go for the Saints game aint a priority. Boro have made 2 loan signings already. Both will play fa Cup in order to be ready for the league game after, no doubt. We must have the smallest squad in the league right now, and have one of our most important games of the season coming up next Saturday. It isn't so much about getting them for the FA Cup, it's getting them match ready for the Barnsley game. And the FA Cup game would have helped a lot with that. |
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Post by willo on Jan 3, 2020 12:47:35 GMT 1
The latter. Lots of folk thinking 2+2=5 on here, with far too much spare time pondering and second guessing our club and their players. Lyle Taylor was asked why Karlan Grant signed for us when we were likely to be in the same division the following year. He said Grant wanted to score goals in the last 5 months of the Premier League season and catch the eye of another Premier League team. Nothing wrong with that but clear he doesn’t want to stay at Town longer than he has to. I don’t think it would be a disaster to sell Grant in this window if bidding starts at £20m (+ add-ons) and we have the time to line up a suitable replacement or he is loaned back to us for the remainder of this season. However, he doesn’t give the impression in the way he plays that he wants away. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 3, 2020 12:51:52 GMT 1
Boro have made 2 loan signings already. Both will play fa Cup in order to be ready for the league game after, no doubt. We must have the smallest squad in the league right now, it's almost as if someone has hit the self destruct button. |
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Post by royrace on Jan 3, 2020 12:53:12 GMT 1
Quite simply because it is really not that simple! If it were, surely we would have seen a far greater number of deals confirmed on the stroke of midnight? Deals may well be agreed in principle, but there are many events in a chain that are circumstantial and reliant on third parties - even for loan deals (we've heard about the Kieran Dowell saga). Not many clubs are willing to rush into 'done deals' pre-window and why would they when the melee of the market may produce a more suitable alternative, especially for those more desirable. And on balance, having players ready to go for the Saints game aint a priority. Boro have made 2 loan signings already. Both will play fa Cup in order to be ready for the league game after, no doubt. We must have the smallest squad in the league right now, and have one of our most important games of the season coming up next Saturday. It isn't so much about getting them for the FA Cup, it's getting them match ready for the Barnsley game. And the FA Cup game would have helped a lot with that. We're shopping in bargain basement and relying on clubs to do us a favour and lend us players cos we have no budget, we're also waiting for clubs to pay us to take players off our hands, similar to the summer really, I wonder of the outcome will be the same. I guess boro have a proper budget and its not reliant on outgoings. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 12:54:19 GMT 1
I really hope the Cowleys can oversee a successful transfer window, they've got a hell of a job on their hands to get a fit for purpose squad together given current status and resources available. if kachunga is out long term our squad will be even thinner so as you say a lot to be done if only it was that easy. ASive said before ive nomdoubt the club are trying there best but as cowley says its not always in ther hands. fans expect it all to be done in days. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 12:59:07 GMT 1
Players come, players go, for various reasons. It's not the 1950s, you can't force players and in Lowes case his family to stay where they don't want to be. No different than all the othwr 91 clubs. He signed a contract, get a decent fee or play till it runs out. Karlan Grant wants to leave and i’m sure his family want him to play Premier League as well. We going to let him go for next to nowt? ck your tatement with facts regarding grant because its news to me! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 12:59:16 GMT 1
Lyle Taylor was asked why Karlan Grant signed for us when we were likely to be in the same division the following year. He said Grant wanted to score goals in the last 5 months of the Premier League season and catch the eye of another Premier League team. Nothing wrong with that but clear he doesn’t want to stay at Town longer than he has to. I don’t think it would be a disaster to sell Grant in this window if bidding starts at £20m (+ add-ons) and we have the time to line up a suitable replacement or he is loaned back to us for the remainder of this season. However, he doesn’t give the impression in the way he plays that he wants away. If he wants to play at the highest level, the best way is to keep on playing well and scoring goals. He's not stupid and he's got several examples at the club showing him how not to orchestrate a move.
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Post by willo on Jan 3, 2020 12:59:58 GMT 1
I really don't understand why we didn't have deals ready to go as soon as the window opened. We are desperately short and needed players in in time to play against Saints, in order to be ready for Barnsley next week. This window is going to be a total bust again, isn't it? We’ve only had 12 months to prepare!!!! How’s about signing Heff, Wells, Lolley, Malone, Payne, Lowe, VLP. They all walk into this team. Here goes...Heff - still coming back from a serious injury and has been out for at least 12 months. IF he returned to training next week, it would be mid-Feb before he’s match fit. Wells - got a hat-trick the other day but is he any better than we already have? No. Lolley - still a one-trick pony, we all witnessed this a fortnight ago. Only better than we already have because we currently have no playable wingers. Malone - don’t get me started! Payne - if he really was a Championship player, he’d be playing in the Championship. Lowe - made it known he wanted to return to Germany at the end of last season which we allowed for being a good servant to the club. No complaints from most supporters about the way the Club dealt with and allowed this to happen. VLP - given so many opportunities and yet failed to deliver time and time again. No final ball so many times. I rest my case. |
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Post by boooothy on Jan 3, 2020 13:02:35 GMT 1
We’ve only had 12 months to prepare!!!! How’s about signing Heff, Wells, Lolley, Malone, Payne, Lowe, VLP. They all walk into this team. Here goes...Heff - still coming back from a serious injury and has been out for at least 12 months. IF he returned to training next week, it would be mid-Feb before he’s match fit. Wells - got a hat-trick the other day but is he any better than we already have? No. Lolley - still a one-trick pony, we all witnessed this a fortnight ago. Only better than we already have because we currently have no playable wingers. Malone - don’t get me started! Payne - if he really was a Championship player, he’d be playing in the Championship. Lowe - made it known he wanted to return to Germany at the end of last season which we allowed for being a good servant to the club. No complaints from most supporters about the way the Club dealt with and allowed this to happen. VLP - given so many opportunities and yet failed to deliver time and time again. No final ball so many times. I rest my case. Totally agree. They are all poor players. But they would still get in our team. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jan 3, 2020 13:07:20 GMT 1
Kieren Dowell has been recalled by Everton and will be loaned to Wigan. Obviously didn't do too well at Derby then...
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Post by ColchTerrier on Jan 3, 2020 13:16:16 GMT 1
Kasey Palmer has apparently had a big fall out with Johnson at Bristol City! Looks like he's leaving - Swansea favourites to take him on loan!
Please Town bring him back!! Bristols 2nd most creative player!
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Post by Kenny irons on Jan 3, 2020 13:18:07 GMT 1
Reece brown to posh not far off now
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Post by ColchTerrier on Jan 3, 2020 13:18:30 GMT 1
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Post by willo on Jan 3, 2020 13:19:13 GMT 1
Here goes...Heff - still coming back from a serious injury and has been out for at least 12 months. IF he returned to training next week, it would be mid-Feb before he’s match fit. Wells - got a hat-trick the other day but is he any better than we already have? No. Lolley - still a one-trick pony, we all witnessed this a fortnight ago. Only better than we already have because we currently have no playable wingers. Malone - don’t get me started! Payne - if he really was a Championship player, he’d be playing in the Championship. Lowe - made it known he wanted to return to Germany at the end of last season which we allowed for being a good servant to the club. No complaints from most supporters about the way the Club dealt with and allowed this to happen. VLP - given so many opportunities and yet failed to deliver time and time again. No final ball so many times. I rest my case. Totally agree. They are all poor players. But they would still get in our team. Heff over Schindler or Stank? No. Wells over Campbell? No. Lolley - only on the basis we have wingers on the books who are unwilling to play for us, Malone - agree we could do with an experienced LB but he is not the answer. Payne - assuming we sold Pritch, we can do lots better, Lowe we’ve already covered & VLP unlikely to have improved since he left us (see Lolley explanation). FWIW, I’m more than happy to have ex-players back if they improve the team. I’m ok with our current GK but would have Smithies back without a second thought. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 3, 2020 13:20:20 GMT 1
Reece brown to posh not far off now He should be used as a bartering tool to get Maddison coming the other direction. I posted something similar on here about 3 weeks ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 13:20:21 GMT 1
Here goes...Heff - still coming back from a serious injury and has been out for at least 12 months. IF he returned to training next week, it would be mid-Feb before he’s match fit. Wells - got a hat-trick the other day but is he any better than we already have? No. Lolley - still a one-trick pony, we all witnessed this a fortnight ago. Only better than we already have because we currently have no playable wingers. Malone - don’t get me started! Payne - if he really was a Championship player, he’d be playing in the Championship. Lowe - made it known he wanted to return to Germany at the end of last season which we allowed for being a good servant to the club. No complaints from most supporters about the way the Club dealt with and allowed this to happen. VLP - given so many opportunities and yet failed to deliver time and time again. No final ball so many times. I rest my case. Totally agree. They are all poor players. But they would still get in our team. Revisit this thread at the end of the month, see if they would then. I can guarantee Heff would be a good mascot, but nothing more. |
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Jan 3, 2020 13:22:03 GMT 1
Middlesbrough not messing about. They are doing what we should be doing.
We always piss about haggling over a few quid
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Post by Tiro on Jan 3, 2020 13:22:45 GMT 1
Quite simply because it is really not that simple! If it were, surely we would have seen a far greater number of deals confirmed on the stroke of midnight? Deals may well be agreed in principle, but there are many events in a chain that are circumstantial and reliant on third parties - even for loan deals (we've heard about the Kieran Dowell saga). Not many clubs are willing to rush into 'done deals' pre-window and why would they when the melee of the market may produce a more suitable alternative, especially for those more desirable. And on balance, having players ready to go for the Saints game aint a priority. Boro have made 2 loan signings already. Both will play fa Cup in order to be ready for the league game after, no doubt. We must have the smallest squad in the league right now, and have one of our most important games of the season coming up next Saturday. It isn't so much about getting them for the FA Cup, it's getting them match ready for the Barnsley game. And the FA Cup game would have helped a lot with that. I’m sure there are benefits in what you have said, but I would rather we sign quality over quantity and it sounds as though we’re active from reports in the club, the press and those ITK. It maybe that the powers that be are somewhat frustrated by the lack of success on day three of the window, but I’m also sure it’s not for the lack of trying. If we’re still in the same boat come week three, then we should panic. |
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Post by Tiro on Jan 3, 2020 13:27:00 GMT 1
Middlesbrough not messing about. They are doing what we should be doing. We always piss about haggling over a few quid Who’s to say we’re pissing about over a few quid? We’re certainly not chucking cash around, but I haven’t seen or heard anything to suggest that we’re being unreasonable. The Brown move may trigger an option to bring someone in. I should also imagine that we’re waiting on getting rid of Kongolo, Mbenza et al before we sign others. |
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Post by impact on Jan 3, 2020 13:28:26 GMT 1
Dowell off to Wigan apparently. Been a bust for Derby.
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Jan 3, 2020 13:29:10 GMT 1
Kasey Palmer has apparently had a big fall out with Johnson at Bristol City! Looks like he's leaving - Swansea favourites to take him on loan! Please Town bring him back!! Bristols 2nd most creative player! Would have him back in a heartbeat. |
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Post by mids on Jan 3, 2020 13:29:47 GMT 1
The latter. Lots of folk thinking 2+2=5 on here, with far too much spare time pondering and second guessing our club and their players. Lyle Taylor was asked why Karlan Grant signed for us when we were likely to be in the same division the following year. He said Grant wanted to score goals in the last 5 months of the Premier League season and catch the eye of another Premier League team. Nothing wrong with that but clear he doesn’t want to stay at Town longer than he has to. There's a world of difference between a player having the ambition to play at the highest level possible and a player actively looking to get away...and you know that full well. |
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Post by drumriggend on Jan 3, 2020 13:30:07 GMT 1
Totally agree. They are all poor players. But they would still get in our team. Revisit this thread at the end of the month, see if they would then. I can guarantee Heff would be a good mascot, but nothing more. Hef will always be a town legend.. But he has barely played for 3 years.. We have terry the terrier.. Players needed.. Not mascots.. 🐶 |
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