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Post by jasrick on Feb 13, 2020 14:01:40 GMT 1
Got to be honest. I’m just not sure about him. He possesses lots of skill without question but has a very cavalier approach. When it doesn’t come off for him he often surrenders possession cheaply and this happened on several occasions last night. I understand your point of view but personally I’d much rather have Bacuna trying something that may or may not come off than a lump forwards or sideways pass along the back. |
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Post by turbo2 on Feb 13, 2020 16:45:27 GMT 1
so i like bacuna, think he has a lot to offer. But last night he was trying to show off to his brother. Ghosted past the first two men time and time again, only to run into a blind alley and lose the ball after that. Why didn't he make the break, play a simple forward pass then continue?  Once you beat a man or two you've generally created some space, to then keep hold of the ball and lose it every time was just selfish. Most frustrating, but atleast he offered something. Lossl, Simpson, Schindler, Stearman, Kachunga, Hogg, Mounie all 2's and 3's out of ten for me What did Lossl do wrong, he hadn't a prayer with any of the goals, hardly had a save to make and caught crosses ? watch the goals again. Down on the floor for the first, second one straight through him, six foot inside the far post, down way too soon and should have been a goal(poor attempt), poor tip over from 35 yards when he was a metre off his line, all still in first half, lost in no mans land for the 3rd. Apart from that he had a blinder. |
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Post by boooothy on Feb 13, 2020 17:03:30 GMT 1
Bacuna simply doesn’t look after the ball. Happy to lose it 9 times out of 10 round the box trying to create something. I haven’t decided if i think that’s acceptable, at least he’s trying something.
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Post by Ross83 on Feb 13, 2020 17:37:58 GMT 1
so i like bacuna, think he has a lot to offer. But last night he was trying to show off to his brother. Ghosted past the first two men time and time again, only to run into a blind alley and lose the ball after that. Why didn't he make the break, play a simple forward pass then continue? Once you beat a man or two you've generally created some space, to then keep hold of the ball and lose it every time was just selfish. Most frustrating, but atleast he offered something. Lossl, Simpson, Schindler, Stearman, Kachunga, Hogg, Mounie all 2's and 3's out of ten for me What did Lossl do wrong, he hadn't a prayer with any of the goals, hardly had a save to make and caught crosses ? Must admit I felt sorry for Lossl last night, as you said not much he could have done about any of the goals but one thing that stands out a mile is the improved distribution, that sliced ball downfield to Toffolo (was it?) was something you only see from the very best keepers. |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 13, 2020 17:59:00 GMT 1
What did Lossl do wrong, he hadn't a prayer with any of the goals, hardly had a save to make and caught crosses ? watch the goals again. Down on the floor for the first, second one straight through him, six foot inside the far post, down way too soon and should have been a goal(poor attempt), poor tip over from 35 yards when he was a metre off his line, all still in first half, lost in no mans land for the 3rd. Apart from that he had a blinder. Just watched them again now, he didn't go down early for the first, the 2nd was out of his reach and just inside the post and the 3rd he saved the original shot but it ran to the lad to stick in |
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Post by turbo2 on Feb 13, 2020 18:32:14 GMT 1
watch the goals again. Down on the floor for the first, second one straight through him, six foot inside the far post, down way too soon and should have been a goal(poor attempt), poor tip over from 35 yards when he was a metre off his line, all still in first half, lost in no mans land for the 3rd. Apart from that he had a blinder. Just watched them again now, he didn't go down early for the first, the 2nd was out of his reach and just inside the post and the 3rd he saved the original shot but it ran to the lad to stick in He was on his arse for the first. Stand up is the first thing you get taught as a keeper. The second is out of his reach. But its nowhere near the corner so he’s badly positioned. The other first half one on one he’s on his arse again and he makes a meal of the long range free kick. For the fourth if he stays away from the action it’s a simple pick up Coleman probably wouldn’t have done much better but lossl has been brought in on massive money to make the difference which he plainly didn’t last night I’ve already said he wasn’t alone but he was poor |
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Feb 13, 2020 19:49:05 GMT 1
Bacuna, lots to ike about him but also lots to dislike about him. He remind's me of Harry Bunn, got the potential but needs to get his head up and be aware of what is around him.
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 13, 2020 20:07:41 GMT 1
I think a lot of people are forgetting Bacuna's age. Are people expecting a 22 year old to be the finished article?
He's exciting & frustrating in equal measure, but if we can harness the good bit & work on his decision making we have a hell of a midfielder on our hands.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Feb 13, 2020 21:12:23 GMT 1
I think a lot of people are forgetting Bacuna's age. Are people expecting a 22 year old to be the finished article? He's exciting & frustrating in equal measure, but if we can harness the good bit & work on his decision making we have a hell of a midfielder on our hands. The plan is to bitch and moan about him when he's here and then at some point in the future bitch and moan about the fact we sold him when he's ripping it up somewhere. We also specifically bitch and moan at him shooting outside the box and then bitch and moan we don't take enough pot shots. And finally, we also bitch and moan when he turns in a tight area instead of playing back or sideways and then bitch and moan when we pass backwards and sideways too much. 😆 |
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Post by King Curtis on Feb 13, 2020 21:17:34 GMT 1
Juninho Bacuna is as good a player as we've got right now and folk are suggesting we offload him. Deary me.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 13, 2020 21:24:18 GMT 1
Juninho Bacuna is as good a player as we've got right now and folk are suggesting we offload him. Deary me. He's very talented.. Just out of interest how many out of 10 would you have given him last night? |
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Post by ball on Feb 13, 2020 21:25:06 GMT 1
Sounds mad, but he just needs stripping back a little. Let him run at people in the top third, get him taking less touches in the other two.
Agree with most of what’s been said, some better choices and he’s the best midfielder we’ve got. However when everyone’s fit I'm probably bringing him off the bench
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Post by King Curtis on Feb 13, 2020 21:34:42 GMT 1
Juninho Bacuna is as good a player as we've got right now and folk are suggesting we offload him. Deary me. He's very talented.. Just out of interest how many out of 10 would you have given him last night? I'd have given him a 6/10 overall. He was 7/10 in the first half and 5/10 in the second. He was the most likely to create anything for us last night. I'll ask you, who would you rate higher out of 10 than JB last night? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 13, 2020 22:01:45 GMT 1
He's very talented.. Just out of interest how many out of 10 would you have given him last night? I'd have given him a 6/10 overall. He was 7/10 in the first half and 5/10 in the second. He was the most likely to create anything for us last night. I'll ask you, who would you rate higher out of 10 than JB last night? I'd tend to agree with chicken and hartrick on the podcast.. LOB and ESR maybe sevens. The rest fours. Except id downgrade Simpson and Kachunga to a two |
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Post by sabailand on Feb 13, 2020 22:06:12 GMT 1
Playing him regularly in his proper position would help.
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Post by Bigcolquaner on Feb 13, 2020 22:07:09 GMT 1
Get rid and replace with another bloke who puts his foot on it, swivels 180, and passes it backwards. Don't know who he thinks he is...
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Post by King Curtis on Feb 13, 2020 22:08:40 GMT 1
I'd have given him a 6/10 overall. He was 7/10 in the first half and 5/10 in the second. He was the most likely to create anything for us last night. I'll ask you, who would you rate higher out of 10 than JB last night? I'd tend to agree with chicken and hartrick on the podcast.. LOB and ESR maybe sevens. The rest fours. Except id downgrade Simpson and Kachunga to a two The podcast? Eh? Who are chicken and hartric? LOB and ESR were the only other standouts I agree with you there. Bacuna was up there with them. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 13, 2020 22:14:18 GMT 1
I'd tend to agree with chicken and hartrick on the podcast.. LOB and ESR maybe sevens. The rest fours. Except id downgrade Simpson and Kachunga to a two The podcast? Eh? Who are chicken and hartric? LOB and ESR were the only other standouts I agree with you there. Bacuna was up there with them. Well I'm right and your wrong. But if you feel the opposite then you're entitled to that. Tons of talent. So much talent. To be a top footballer talent isn't enough I'm afraid. First 15 yesterday he was on course for an 8. Then he fizzled out. As he does. Most of his most notable contributions have been off the bench. A career is too short he needs to cut down on the off the field stuff and he will play regularly in the Prem. If he carries on as he is he is lower championship |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Feb 13, 2020 22:26:11 GMT 1
He's very talented.. Just out of interest how many out of 10 would you have given him last night? I'd have given him a 6/10 overall. He was 7/10 in the first half and 5/10 in the second. He was the most likely to create anything for us last night. I'll ask you, who would you rate higher out of 10 than JB last night? This is the thing he looks like he 'might' create something but never really does, he was marauding up the pitch at times last night but at the key moment to make the right pass he either makes the wrong pass, loses the ball or just keeps hold of it too long. As pointed out his most yelling contributions have come from the bench. |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 13, 2020 22:28:44 GMT 1
I'd have given him a 6/10 overall. He was 7/10 in the first half and 5/10 in the second. He was the most likely to create anything for us last night. I'll ask you, who would you rate higher out of 10 than JB last night? I'd tend to agree with chicken and hartrick on the podcast.. LOB and ESR maybe sevens. The rest fours. Except id downgrade Simpson and Kachunga to a two All opinions eh, I thought he was far above the 2 you mention. |
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Post by King Curtis on Feb 13, 2020 22:29:46 GMT 1
The podcast? Eh? Who are chicken and hartric? LOB and ESR were the only other standouts I agree with you there. Bacuna was up there with them. Well I'm right and your wrong. But if you feel the opposite then you're entitled to that. Tons of talent. So much talent. To be a top footballer talent isn't enough I'm afraid. First 15 yesterday he was on course for an 8. Then he fizzled out. As he does. Most of his most notable contributions have been off the bench. A career is too short he needs to cut down on the off the field stuff and he will play regularly on the Prem. If he carries on as he is he is lower championship You've not answered either of the direct questions I asked you in my last 2 responses. Just bashed at your keyboard. |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 13, 2020 22:29:58 GMT 1
I'd have given him a 6/10 overall. He was 7/10 in the first half and 5/10 in the second. He was the most likely to create anything for us last night. I'll ask you, who would you rate higher out of 10 than JB last night? This is the thing he looks like he 'might' create something but never really does, he was marauding up the pitch at times last night but at the key moment to make the right pass he either makes the wrong pass, loses the ball or just keeps hold of it too long. As pointed out his most yelling contributions have come from the bench. "Looks like he might" is still better than "never look like they might" which describes the rest bar Smith Rowe |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 13, 2020 22:30:52 GMT 1
I'd tend to agree with chicken and hartrick on the podcast.. LOB and ESR maybe sevens. The rest fours. Except id downgrade Simpson and Kachunga to a two All opinions eh, I thought he was far above the 2 you mention. Kachunga and Simpson? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 13, 2020 22:33:52 GMT 1
Well I'm right and your wrong. But if you feel the opposite then you're entitled to that. Tons of talent. So much talent. To be a top footballer talent isn't enough I'm afraid. First 15 yesterday he was on course for an 8. Then he fizzled out. As he does. Most of his most notable contributions have been off the bench. A career is too short he needs to cut down on the off the field stuff and he will play regularly on the Prem. If he carries on as he is he is lower championship You've not answered either of the direct questions I asked you in my last 2 responses. Just bashed at your keyboard. Bashing is healthy. The two guys are off the town examiner podcast. They know the game I'm not really having the discussion about "who was better". That's such a low bar. We lost 3-0 and we came up massively short. He continues to disappoint. As I said in that thread I started the other week. Teams with too many bacunas get relegated. |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 13, 2020 22:34:33 GMT 1
All opinions eh, I thought he was far above the 2 you mention. Kachunga and Simpson? Ok, the 4 you mentioned |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 13, 2020 22:36:01 GMT 1
You've not answered either of the direct questions I asked you in my last 2 responses. Just bashed at your keyboard. Bashing is healthy. The two guys are off the town examiner podcast. They know the game I'm not really having the discussion about "who was better". That's such a low bar. We lost 3-0 and we came up massively short. He continues to disappoint. As I said in that thread I started the other week. Teams with too many bacunas get relegated. Fine let's play with a team full of Hoggs and O'Briens then, steady and creatively non existent. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 13, 2020 22:38:22 GMT 1
Bashing is healthy. The two guys are off the town examiner podcast. They know the game I'm not really having the discussion about "who was better". That's such a low bar. We lost 3-0 and we came up massively short. He continues to disappoint. As I said in that thread I started the other week. Teams with too many bacunas get relegated. Fine let's play with a team full of Hoggs and O'Briens then, steady and creatively non existent. You'd rather have Bacuna in this relegation struggle than Hogg and more importantly o Brien? ( a Premier league player in waiting). I'm gobsmacked. Play 10 bacunas and we are league one mate |
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Post by King Curtis on Feb 13, 2020 22:39:34 GMT 1
You've not answered either of the direct questions I asked you in my last 2 responses. Just bashed at your keyboard. Bashing is healthy. The two guys are off the town examiner podcast. They know the game I'm not really having the discussion about "who was better". That's such a low bar. We lost 3-0 and we came up massively short. He continues to disappoint. As I said in that thread I started the other week. Teams with too many bacunas get relegated. The Examiner  |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 13, 2020 22:42:44 GMT 1
Bashing is healthy. The two guys are off the town examiner podcast. They know the game I'm not really having the discussion about "who was better". That's such a low bar. We lost 3-0 and we came up massively short. He continues to disappoint. As I said in that thread I started the other week. Teams with too many bacunas get relegated. The Examiner Listen to it you may find it educative |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 13, 2020 23:07:56 GMT 1
Fine let's play with a team full of Hoggs and O'Briens then, steady and creatively non existent. You'd rather have Bacuna in this relegation struggle than Hogg and more importantly o Brien? ( a Premier league player in waiting). I'm gobsmacked. Play 10 bacunas and we are league one mate Play 10 Hoggs or O'Briens we are too. They all have different qualities to bring to the team, and we need those differences. |
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