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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 13:37:44 GMT 1
So after an extended season lasting almost 12 months, who is your player of the season? I assume the club will still do a Player of the Season award.
I will keep the vote open until the day after the last game in 2 weeks. I have included any player to play 10 or more games this season for Town.
My vote goes to a fellow Rochdale citizen Lewis O'Brien. He hasn't been at his best since the restart but was fantastic earlier this year. Grant, Mounie and Bacuna would be my others who have impressed this season.
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Post by linson on Jul 9, 2020 17:34:36 GMT 1
I think it's really cute you've included Diakhaby / Elphick / Grabara / Brown / Flo...
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jul 9, 2020 17:57:04 GMT 1
O'Brien - no question.
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Post by bluestripe on Jul 10, 2020 8:23:19 GMT 1
50 votes and not one for Grant!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 10, 2020 8:26:02 GMT 1
50 votes and not one for Grant! Quite interesting seeing as though he is the only player you could argue "if he wasn't here we would have been down already"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 9:03:17 GMT 1
50 votes and not one for Grant! Yeah is a bit of a surprise, although that would change if he scores the winner tonight
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Post by impact on Jul 10, 2020 13:54:48 GMT 1
It's a strange one really. I'd say Grant is easily our most important player of the season. Without him we'd be bottom. But I've gone for O'Brien for consistency, energy, work rate and the impetus he gives the team.
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Post by ACW on Jul 10, 2020 14:02:56 GMT 1
It's a strange one really. I'd say Grant is easily our most important player of the season. Without him we'd be bottom. But I've gone for O'Brien for consistency, energy, work rate and the impetus he gives the team. I think the other thing - as well as consistency - that separates Grant and O'Brien is perceived attitude. O'Brien's attitude cannot be questioned, even when he has a poor game. Not that he's had too many of them this season, especially before the lockdown. Grant has been unquestionably our most important player, but his commitment and attitude has been questioned, especially since the re-start. At times - against Brum for example - he's looked good, but all too often he has been uninvolved and ineffective. Some have said disinterested. I have no insight into Grant's character, but I do find it hard to warm to him, which is strange considering his importance to our team. He doesn't strike me a much of a team player, so if he was to leave, I would miss his goals but not him as a player (if that makes sense!) . That might be unfair, but it's just the way I feel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 11:22:20 GMT 1
So any further votes for the player of the year?
Lewis is mine for the first part of the season. Trevoh the best player in the matches since lockdown.
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Post by bigtruck on Jul 23, 2020 12:50:24 GMT 1
i appreciate the love-in for O'Brien being "one of our own" but he's not exactly set the division alight, but i think next year he will. I can't look further than Schindler if i'm honest. Yes he's not been at the level we've seen previously but to play every minute up to the Milwall game is significant in itself. He's carried this team (along with Grant's goals) and the weight of expectation and disappointment all year. The guy is immense
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Jul 23, 2020 15:39:21 GMT 1
I was going to pick Schindler. I mean, he's m ultimate man crush. But he as been found wanting at times defensively and, crucially, I think he has not been as strong a leader as we needed. If he stays, and I hope he does, I hope we sign a true leader in midfield to take over the armband and let him focus on his primary role.
So LOB gets it for me. Someone we need to keep and build a midfield around.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 23, 2020 16:15:09 GMT 1
i appreciate the love-in for O'Brien being "one of our own" but he's not exactly set the division alight, but i think next year he will. I can't look further than Schindler if i'm honest. Yes he's not been at the level we've seen previously but to play every minute up to the Milwall game is significant in itself. He's carried this team (along with Grant's goals) and the weight of expectation and disappointment all year. The guy is immense This is subjective and a lot of us simply think he's been our best player over the full season. It's bugger all to do with him being one of our own. He's been a bit ropey post lockdown mind, at the same time as Chalobah's arguably been the best by a mile.
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Post by ACW on Jul 23, 2020 16:41:29 GMT 1
i appreciate the love-in for O'Brien being "one of our own" but he's not exactly set the division alight, but i think next year he will. I can't look further than Schindler if i'm honest. Yes he's not been at the level we've seen previously but to play every minute up to the Milwall game is significant in itself. He's carried this team (along with Grant's goals) and the weight of expectation and disappointment all year. The guy is immense This is subjective and a lot of us simply think he's been our best player over the full season. It's bugger all to do with him being one of our own. He's been a bit ropey post lockdown mind, at the same time as Chalobah's arguably been the best by a mile. LOB has not performed at the same high level since lock down as he did before, but this award is for performances over the whole season. Over the season he has maintained a level of constency no one else can say they attained. And, as you say, that is nothing to do with him being a player we have brought through - it's simply down to his performances on the pitch. During one period earlier on in the season he was our best player almost every week. No one else was getting a look in for MOM.
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Post by Larry David on Jul 23, 2020 16:44:09 GMT 1
Schindler for me
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Post by bigtruck on Jul 23, 2020 17:02:17 GMT 1
i appreciate the love-in for O'Brien being "one of our own" but he's not exactly set the division alight, but i think next year he will. I can't look further than Schindler if i'm honest. Yes he's not been at the level we've seen previously but to play every minute up to the Milwall game is significant in itself. He's carried this team (along with Grant's goals) and the weight of expectation and disappointment all year. The guy is immense This is subjective and a lot of us simply think he's been our best player over the full season. It's bugger all to do with him being one of our own. He's been a bit ropey post lockdown mind, at the same time as Chalobah's arguably been the best by a mile. Yeah I get that, didn’t mean he’s been voted for purely because he’s one of our own but I always look at POY awards as which is the 1 player you couldn’t have done with out which is why Schindler wins for me. But with O’Brien we’ve got a good un.
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Post by ACW on Jul 23, 2020 17:07:06 GMT 1
This is subjective and a lot of us simply think he's been our best player over the full season. It's bugger all to do with him being one of our own. He's been a bit ropey post lockdown mind, at the same time as Chalobah's arguably been the best by a mile. Yeah I get that, didn’t mean he’s been voted for purely because he’s one of our own but I always look at POY awards as which is the 1 player you couldn’t have done with out which is why Schindler wins for me. But with O’Brien we’ve got a good un. If POY should go to the one player we couldn't have done without then surely your vote should go to Grant? Without his goals we go down.
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Post by bigtruck on Jul 23, 2020 17:17:42 GMT 1
Yeah I get that, didn’t mean he’s been voted for purely because he’s one of our own but I always look at POY awards as which is the 1 player you couldn’t have done with out which is why Schindler wins for me. But with O’Brien we’ve got a good un. If POY should go to the one player we couldn't have done without then surely your vote should go to Grant? Without his goals we go down. Yeah I did put that initially and was a tough choice.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Jul 23, 2020 17:26:37 GMT 1
This poll just highlights how the season has gone, our last Championship campaign there genuinely could have been 5 or 6 contenders and if someone you didn't vote for won you would think, well fair enough, this time around LOB is miles ahead and I think most would agree he's been poor since the restart.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 17:27:54 GMT 1
It's a strange one really. I'd say Grant is easily our most important player of the season. Without him we'd be bottom. But I've gone for O'Brien for consistency, energy, work rate and the impetus he gives the team. I think the other thing - as well as consistency - that separates Grant and O'Brien is perceived attitude. O'Brien's attitude cannot be questioned, even when he has a poor game. Not that he's had too many of them this season, especially before the lockdown. Grant has been unquestionably our most important player, but his commitment and attitude has been questioned, especially since the re-start. At times - against Brum for example - he's looked good, but all too often he has been uninvolved and ineffective. Some have said disinterested. I have no insight into Grant's character, but I do find it hard to warm to him, which is strange considering his importance to our team. He doesn't strike me a much of a team player, so if he was to leave, I would miss his goals but not him as a player (if that makes sense!) . That might be unfair, but it's just the way I feel. I agree but I don’t think the system suited him. I’m still not convinced that’s his best position. He’s not a great crosser so if he’s not beating his man and having a shot he’s wasted being in possession. Not sure he’ll be here but if he is I can see him having a much more effective season next time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 17:30:33 GMT 1
This poll just highlights how the season has gone, our last Championship campaign there genuinely could have been 5 or 6 contenders and if someone you didn't vote for won you would think, well fair enough, this time around LOB is miles ahead and I think most would agree he's been poor since the restart. Yep he’s struggled especially against Millwall where he was gash. Again someone who I think needs to work in a more reliable system. Too often his individual performances went unrewarded. Too often we were just 11 individuals on the pitch with no plan.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 17:32:19 GMT 1
Two people have voted for Flo as a joke. You really didn’t need to include him on the list as he’s not a footballer.
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Post by Ross83 on Jul 23, 2020 17:34:06 GMT 1
Well with the poll being so unanimously in favour of O'Brien, my money is on Billing.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Jul 23, 2020 17:39:21 GMT 1
It's a strange one really. I'd say Grant is easily our most important player of the season. Without him we'd be bottom. But I've gone for O'Brien for consistency, energy, work rate and the impetus he gives the team. I think the other thing - as well as consistency - that separates Grant and O'Brien is perceived attitude. O'Brien's attitude cannot be questioned, even when he has a poor game. Not that he's had too many of them this season, especially before the lockdown. Grant has been unquestionably our most important player, but his commitment and attitude has been questioned, especially since the re-start. At times - against Brum for example - he's looked good, but all too often he has been uninvolved and ineffective. Some have said disinterested. I have no insight into Grant's character, but I do find it hard to warm to him, which is strange considering his importance to our team. He doesn't strike me a much of a team player, so if he was to leave, I would miss his goals but not him as a player (if that makes sense!) . That might be unfair, but it's just the way I feel. Did you see the interview ESR gave to some blogger or other. Amongst others he was asked two questions. 1. Who is the funniest footballer you know, and 2, who would you like to have to self isolate with. Answer to both was Karlan Grant. This wasn't centered on Town mind, he had the whole Arsenal squad to choose from as well. My flabber was ghasted. Like you I struggle to warm to him. Facial expressions give a very disinterested demeanour, even when he has just slotted a cracker into the onion bag. How odd.
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Post by huddersfc on Jul 23, 2020 18:26:55 GMT 1
I wanted to go for Isaac Mbenza but his name isnt on the list.
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Post by specialun on Jul 23, 2020 19:57:54 GMT 1
O’Brien
Followed by Schindler and Grant (season is 46 games long not from whatever date some like to cut it from!)
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Post by melbourneterrier on Jul 24, 2020 6:11:07 GMT 1
LOB for me.
Other ones in the race were Lossl (although he was only here half a season), Chalobah (came good too late to win) and Grant (post lockdown form took it from him)
Schindler was good for the most part but unsure if I'd consider him for player of the season.
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Post by alexdire on Jul 24, 2020 8:46:01 GMT 1
Rarmani Edmonds-Green he won promotion.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 24, 2020 8:51:25 GMT 1
Rarmani Edmonds-Green he won promotion. I can see him being somewhat of a regular next season.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jul 24, 2020 9:00:33 GMT 1
How's Grabara getting on?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 12:28:08 GMT 1
Harry Toffolo agrees with us
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