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Post by melbourneterrier on Jul 24, 2020 6:02:20 GMT 1
He looks to have a big head on a small body. Interesting what people can take from an interview....
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Post by wetherbyterrier1972 on Jul 24, 2020 6:12:31 GMT 1
Welcome Senor.
Will back him. But I don’t like how the Cowleys were disposed of. Always a Terrier but Club lacks class at the moment.
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Post by Melc on Jul 24, 2020 6:28:53 GMT 1
Welcome Senor. Will back him. But I don’t like how the Cowleys were disposed of. Always a Terrier but Club lacks class at the moment. Need my faith restoring The only class we lacked that matters to most fans was out their on the pitch. Yes the Cowley situation could have been handled better, but I get why he had to go as the football was dire. Anyhow a new chapter starts, just hope some on here show a bit of patience, while as a club we try to re align after what has been a dreadfull two seasons on and off the pitch!
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 24, 2020 6:57:07 GMT 1
Looking at the interview - driven, doesn't smile a lot and you wouldn't mess with him.
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Post by Amigo on Jul 24, 2020 7:38:09 GMT 1
I don't think he was pushing the academy he was answering a question, the question was about 7 academy players in the squad at Millwall he didn't say he was going to be playing them and was he excited about that. He said he wants the academy players to play the same way as the first team and then they can see if they're able to step up "one day". He could hardly say "I thought they all played shit at Millwall they've got no fucking chance and I'm not bothered about bringing players through" could he? I don't understand where all this we're just going to play with academy lads next year has come from, I asked the question in another thread and nobody could answer. I understand the question 1. We’ve appointed an under 23 coach (who comes across very well, looks to have done a good job - albeit fair to add with an academy which has produced talent year after year before he was there) 2. We put a few young players in the squad on the last game of the season (why not - nothing to lose, good experience etc albeit a few looked well short) 3. We’ve made a big deal of it on twitter / website “A proud moment for the academy... 7 young terriers...” 4. Rather than correctly saying a proud moment as 3 academy products High / Daly and O’Brien on the pitch together... As a PR stunt we try claim 7 of our academy players were involved. The reality is Rowe = Leyton Orient academy; Obiero XYZ academy; Duhaney = Man City etc until 2-3 years ago. They’re not all products of the academy who have been here since under 9 like High! .... the 7th player they’re claiming from the academy is Jaden Brown ffs - he was at Spurs until this time last year! We might as well have added ESR & Chalobah to the list and called it 9! 5. The question was suggesting we have great pride in our academy. Yet only 18 months ago we thought it was terrible and shut it down. All together the tweet about 7 young terriers / the question felt a desparate / over the top PR stunt to suggest we have a fantastic academy For the record we do have some good young players in High, Edmonds-Green and Daly. I hope they can break through - when the time is right not all chucked in and fingers crossed. Not fair on them or Carlos - he needs backing. Edmonds-Green closet after a successful loan spell Thanks for trying to answer but it's a lot of straw clutching and nothing of any substance. We've appointed an under 23 manager, that was just half his job wasn't it? Many many managers have started having had very similar roles though. Points 2, 3, 4 and 5 you've made are pretty much the same point but spread out to make it look like more reasons than there are. We've played many more academy players than that on the last day before, it wasn't exactly a youth side the average age was over 25. Reading a lot in to what was said on twitter, there's a few young lads in here so they've bigged them up it's hardly surprising. Basically what you're saying is because we've done the unthinkable and appointed someone that's worked with young players previously in his career and because there's a few young lads in the squad on the last day of the season and because the twitter page has given them a bit of PR and embellished the story a little this means that PH is demanding the team next season is going to be full of academy lads and we're not buying any players this summer?
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 24, 2020 7:51:55 GMT 1
Regarding the Academy. The way I see it is Carlos will need a couple of seasons to get us playing the type of football both PH and most fans want. In that time he will be able to help bring on any Academy players he thinks are good enough. This should be, and I think will be, a more holistic approach by the club.
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Post by specialun on Jul 24, 2020 8:06:46 GMT 1
I understand the question 1. We’ve appointed an under 23 coach (who comes across very well, looks to have done a good job - albeit fair to add with an academy which has produced talent year after year before he was there) 2. We put a few young players in the squad on the last game of the season (why not - nothing to lose, good experience etc albeit a few looked well short) 3. We’ve made a big deal of it on twitter / website “A proud moment for the academy... 7 young terriers...” 4. Rather than correctly saying a proud moment as 3 academy products High / Daly and O’Brien on the pitch together... As a PR stunt we try claim 7 of our academy players were involved. The reality is Rowe = Leyton Orient academy; Obiero XYZ academy; Duhaney = Man City etc until 2-3 years ago. They’re not all products of the academy who have been here since under 9 like High! .... the 7th player they’re claiming from the academy is Jaden Brown ffs - he was at Spurs until this time last year! We might as well have added ESR & Chalobah to the list and called it 9! 5. The question was suggesting we have great pride in our academy. Yet only 18 months ago we thought it was terrible and shut it down. All together the tweet about 7 young terriers / the question felt a desparate / over the top PR stunt to suggest we have a fantastic academy For the record we do have some good young players in High, Edmonds-Green and Daly. I hope they can break through - when the time is right not all chucked in and fingers crossed. Not fair on them or Carlos - he needs backing. Edmonds-Green closet after a successful loan spell Thanks for trying to answer but it's a lot of straw clutching and nothing of any substance. We've appointed an under 23 manager, that was just half his job wasn't it? Many many managers have started having had very similar roles though. Points 2, 3, 4 and 5 you've made are pretty much the same point but spread out to make it look like more reasons than there are. We've played many more academy players than that on the last day before, it wasn't exactly a youth side the average age was over 25. Reading a lot in to what was said on twitter, there's a few young lads in here so they've bigged them up it's hardly surprising. Basically what you're saying is because we've done the unthinkable and appointed someone that's worked with young players previously in his career and because there's a few young lads in the squad on the last day of the season and because the twitter page has given them a bit of PR and embellished the story a little this means that PH is demanding the team next season is going to be full of academy lads and we're not buying any players this summer? Thanks for telling me (Making up) what I am saying... I said all the above “the tweet about 7 young terriers / the question felt a desparate / over the top PR stunt to suggest we have a fantastic academy” Where did I say 1. It’s unthinkable appointing an under 23 manager? 2. We won’t be buying any players? You’ll only get substance when you se next seasons squad Carlos comes across very well. I hope we can get more young players in the team as above, when ready, we need that to be sustainable but Carlos can’t be expected to work miracles We’re all waiting for Phil to explain his vision and back Carlos
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Post by htfcsince70 on Jul 24, 2020 8:09:44 GMT 1
I thought he came across very well in the interview - he was articulate, spoke with pace and his ideas were clear and simple - hopefully just like the football Town play from here on in.
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Post by erikbloodaxe on Jul 24, 2020 8:17:20 GMT 1
I enjoyed his interview, he seems like a determined and serious guy. I am optimistic about next season, UTT.
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Post by chinaski on Jul 24, 2020 8:19:26 GMT 1
Looking at the interview - driven, doesn't smile a lot and you wouldn't mess with him. I was trying to pinpoint my instant dislike of Siewert and I think you’ve helped me. He was grinning from ear to ear (not to mention agreeing to do that ridiculous Martín from Wakefield sketch). Looking back I bet he couldn’t believe his luck. Managing a team in the Premier League from absolutely nowhere. I can’t abide habitually happy people. It’s a sure sign of a psychopath/interplanetary reptile.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 24, 2020 8:37:53 GMT 1
I enjoyed his interview, he seems like a determined and serious guy. I am optimistic about next season, UTT. Yes, when he gets his team around him I think we will see something different. Certainly different to the Cowleys and different to Wagner. DW always looked liked everyone's friend, and he did build great camaraderie, but he didn't seem to have the depth of reserve when things started to go wrong. From his interview I think Carlos may be a very resolute character, he is here to do a job. I am sure, as with many managers and players, Town are a stepping stone for him but I really hope we may have unearthed a gem. We desperately need to turn this tanker around. We have many players here who have been in a relegation battle for 3 years, they need to regain their confidence and start playing winning football again.
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Post by El Mel on Jul 24, 2020 8:44:16 GMT 1
I wish my Spanish was as good as his English.
Somebody needs to tell him he can drop his H's while 'ees managing uddersfield.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jul 24, 2020 8:49:48 GMT 1
Best of luck to the bloke.
New chapter. Wouldn't be crying too many tears for the Cowley brothers. They may feel they've missed an opportunity here, but they'll be walking away with a nice wedge of cash. They'll also be back in gainful employment pretty soon, Sheff Wed may even come knocking again.
We need to get behind this bloke. Who knows, the fact that he'll be managing from a touchline without any fans in the ground might just allow him to get on with job.
The Cowleys might have been the sort who prefer the pantomime element? Genuine Q, just an observation, but if true, they'd have lost their zip without the crowd praising and grumbling for 90 mins...
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 24, 2020 8:52:34 GMT 1
I enjoyed his interview, he seems like a determined and serious guy. I am optimistic about next season, UTT. Yes, when he gets his team around him I think we will see something different. Certainly different to the Cowleys and different to Wagner. DW always looked liked everyone's friend, and he did build great camaraderie, but he didn't seem to have the depth of reserve when things started to go wrong. From his interview I think Carlos may be a very resolute character, he is here to do a job. I am sure, as with many managers and players, Town are a stepping stone for him but I really hope we may have unearthed a gem. We desperately need to turn this tanker around. We have many players here who have been in a relegation battle for 3 years, they need to regain their confidence and start playing winning football again. Think that’s a little bit unfair on Wagner. It all got too much for him when Hoyle was at death’s door, the players we bought weren’t good enough and the momentum from promotion had gone. He was basically carrying the club single handed with Hoyle in hospital. I hope PH learns from Hoyle’s mistakes and gets a better team around him so the responsibility is shared around more and the manager has support from more people.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jul 24, 2020 8:53:43 GMT 1
I wish my Spanish was as good as his English. Somebody needs to tell him he can drop his H's while 'ees managing uddersfield. Drop his wats?
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 24, 2020 8:53:46 GMT 1
not surprised by this. it's bleedin obvious some academy talent has simply lacked the drive and determination to make the step up.
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Post by Amigo on Jul 24, 2020 8:54:46 GMT 1
Thanks for trying to answer but it's a lot of straw clutching and nothing of any substance. We've appointed an under 23 manager, that was just half his job wasn't it? Many many managers have started having had very similar roles though. Points 2, 3, 4 and 5 you've made are pretty much the same point but spread out to make it look like more reasons than there are. We've played many more academy players than that on the last day before, it wasn't exactly a youth side the average age was over 25. Reading a lot in to what was said on twitter, there's a few young lads in here so they've bigged them up it's hardly surprising. Basically what you're saying is because we've done the unthinkable and appointed someone that's worked with young players previously in his career and because there's a few young lads in the squad on the last day of the season and because the twitter page has given them a bit of PR and embellished the story a little this means that PH is demanding the team next season is going to be full of academy lads and we're not buying any players this summer? Thanks for telling me (Making up) what I am saying... I said all the above “the tweet about 7 young terriers / the question felt a desparate / over the top PR stunt to suggest we have a fantastic academy” Where did I say 1. It’s unthinkable appointing an under 23 manager? 2. We won’t be buying any players? You’ll only get substance when you se next seasons squad Carlos comes across very well. I hope we can get more young players in the team as above, when ready, we need that to be sustainable but Carlos can’t be expected to work miracles We’re all waiting for Phil to explain his vision and back Carlos You've used appointing an under 23 manager as an excuse for assuming we're going to be using kids next season, not that we might be appointing one to give him his first opportunity at what's he's been working upwards for, to work with a first team. Of course the club are going to point out we've used a few kids what do you expect them to do, ignore it? They do it every time young players get in the first team squad it's not exactly unusual at any club. He does come across very well and I like the fact he has a style of play he wants to stick with, at least it looks like we'll have some sort of direction and aim this season and know how we're going to push forward. Like every club up and down the country I'm sure we'll be wanting to develop young players but I've still seen nothing to suggest we're going to do it for the sake of it and not try improve the first team as keeps being suggested. Still none the wiser about my original question but thanks for trying.
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Post by royrace on Jul 24, 2020 8:58:38 GMT 1
I understand the question 1. We’ve appointed an under 23 coach (who comes across very well, looks to have done a good job - albeit fair to add with an academy which has produced talent year after year before he was there) 2. We put a few young players in the squad on the last game of the season (why not - nothing to lose, good experience etc albeit a few looked well short) 3. We’ve made a big deal of it on twitter / website “A proud moment for the academy... 7 young terriers...” 4. Rather than correctly saying a proud moment as 3 academy products High / Daly and O’Brien on the pitch together... As a PR stunt we try claim 7 of our academy players were involved. The reality is Rowe = Leyton Orient academy; Obiero XYZ academy; Duhaney = Man City etc until 2-3 years ago. They’re not all products of the academy who have been here since under 9 like High! .... the 7th player they’re claiming from the academy is Jaden Brown ffs - he was at Spurs until this time last year! We might as well have added ESR & Chalobah to the list and called it 9! 5. The question was suggesting we have great pride in our academy. Yet only 18 months ago we thought it was terrible and shut it down. All together the tweet about 7 young terriers / the question felt a desparate / over the top PR stunt to suggest we have a fantastic academy For the record we do have some good young players in High, Edmonds-Green and Daly. I hope they can break through - when the time is right not all chucked in and fingers crossed. Not fair on them or Carlos - he needs backing. Edmonds-Green closet after a successful loan spell Thanks for trying to answer but it's a lot of straw clutching and nothing of any substance. We've appointed an under 23 manager, that was just half his job wasn't it? Many many managers have started having had very similar roles though. Points 2, 3, 4 and 5 you've made are pretty much the same point but spread out to make it look like more reasons than there are. We've played many more academy players than that on the last day before, it wasn't exactly a youth side the average age was over 25. Reading a lot in to what was said on twitter, there's a few young lads in here so they've bigged them up it's hardly surprising. Basically what you're saying is because we've done the unthinkable and appointed someone that's worked with young players previously in his career and because there's a few young lads in the squad on the last day of the season and because the twitter page has given them a bit of PR and embellished the story a little this means that PH is demanding the team next season is going to be full of academy lads and we're not buying any players this summer? The comment about the team having 7 academy players in the game vs Millwall spoiled what was a good interview IMO. It had no relevance whatsoever and as anyone who watched the game knew it wasn't exactly a good advert for the players involved. Adding 7 academy players was contrived and the mention of it in the interview was also contrived. All it suggests to me is that the club has an unrealistic expectation of its younger players, I'm just hoping its not expecting them to replace quality signings otherwise we're in the shit. I totally get that young players need to be given the opportunity but Ive always struggled with the concept that managers deliberately ignore the talent that's under their noses, its more a case they have a look and decide they're not good enough one way or another. Does anyone think we'd still be in the championship if Cowley had played Brown and Duhaney as full backs instead of Simpson and Toffalo? I rate both of the young players, Brown in particular, but this season wasn't the time to chuck youngsters in and we need better as first choice at the moment IMO. To be honest I'd be way more inclined to trust Danny Cowley as a judge than Danny Schofield, Phil and Bromby. Thats no disrespect to any of them but they don't have the experience of being a first team coach, or the unrelenting pressure to deliver results. We've heard this all before, I seem to remember Powell was accused of it, I dont remember a raft of youth players suddenly coming to the fore when he left. I can think of Duane Holmes and Josh Windass that seem to have slipped through the net but they were both late developers, not good enough when at Town and overlooked by more than one manager.
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Post by El Mel on Jul 24, 2020 9:00:16 GMT 1
I wish my Spanish was as good as his English. Somebody needs to tell him he can drop his H's while 'ees managing uddersfield. Drop his wats? Quick Spanish lesson for the uddersfield supporters. The Spaniards don't pronounce their h's Any word that ends 'al' in English, is the same in Spanish "Get it forward" - "adelante." "That's it" - "eso es". Probably covers it. Can just imagine loads of town fans shouting S.O.S - hopefully for the right reasons. ;-)
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 24, 2020 9:00:28 GMT 1
Yes, when he gets his team around him I think we will see something different. Certainly different to the Cowleys and different to Wagner. DW always looked liked everyone's friend, and he did build great camaraderie, but he didn't seem to have the depth of reserve when things started to go wrong. From his interview I think Carlos may be a very resolute character, he is here to do a job. I am sure, as with many managers and players, Town are a stepping stone for him but I really hope we may have unearthed a gem. We desperately need to turn this tanker around. We have many players here who have been in a relegation battle for 3 years, they need to regain their confidence and start playing winning football again. Think that’s a little bit unfair on Wagner. It all got too much for him when Hoyle was at death’s door, the players we bought weren’t good enough and the momentum from promotion had gone. He was basically carrying the club single handed with Hoyle in hospital. I hope PH learns from Hoyle’s mistakes and gets a better team around him so the responsibility is shared around more and the manager has support from more people. It wasn't meant as a knock at DW, I have a lot of time for the man. I am sure DH being so ill was a huge knock to him but he left us before the end of the season whilst we were in a relegation battle. He ran out of steam and that partly came, possibly, for caring so much, but he still jumped ship. My point is I don't get the impression Carlos will be like that. I think he will be more ruthless, if that is not too harsh a word, more detached, and I think that is a better way, given how hard a job it is, to enable you to carry on when things aren't going well. It is all supposition on my part but it is just my first impressions from his interview.
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Jul 24, 2020 9:14:16 GMT 1
I doubt CC has been brought here tasked with solely developing and playing our Academy players. And I doubt he'd have come here if that was the remit anyway.
PH has done a better job recruitment wise in 1 year than DH did in 10 (always felt Wagner was a fluke appointment given how bad DH's other appointments were) so you have to feel confident.
Big plus factors here are CC actually knows the Championship, has played a key role in developing the best team in this league, and has worked with and had the ear of one of the best coaches in the game for the last few years.
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Post by dugnet on Jul 24, 2020 9:20:01 GMT 1
2 things Carlos needs
1 - Support - To bring in the players he wants and his supporting team. I am encouraged that he specifically said we will not be relying the academy i.e. They will get a chance if they are good enough
2 - Time. The club has got itself into a proper pickle (well debated), we have players we don't want or need to move (also well debated). We have a peculiar close season which does not allow the typical 8 week pre-season. To play the style we are expecting we need players who are incredibly fit, I am not sure that this close season will allow that level of condition to be attained (it will take a longer programme of fitness). We also need to factor in that some of the players that we may look to sign may not have played a competitive game for over 4 months, once again a fitness challenge (this could be true for other clubs signing players of course). Finally this must be seen as a long term project i.e. not something that will see us back at the top of the Championship (nice if it happens). We must be patient. If we can see progress on, and off, the pitch I think people will start to believe. We may (likely will) lose games but it is the bigger picture that matters. How you lose games. The style, application, commitment and desire - the evidence that the players are playing for each other, the coach and the fans.
I make these points because I don't think we adequately reflect on how much of what made us successful we have lost. A new direction has been determined so we need to bear that in mind. On the flip side if we think Carlos is being expected to be a miracle worker and make purses out of Sow's ears then PH is toast.
It's knife edge stuff - save the Premier League legacy (with a long term supported plan) or allow the club to drift back into the footballing backwaters for goodness knows how long.
I'm naturally on the optimistic side, I believe it is possible but only if everyone works together and doesn't believe in the tooth fairy, easter bunny etc...
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Post by specialun on Jul 24, 2020 9:22:45 GMT 1
I wish my Spanish was as good as his English. Somebody needs to tell him he can drop his H's while 'ees managing uddersfield. Speak better English than most football fans!
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Jul 24, 2020 9:23:09 GMT 1
I think there are various challenges he will face
1. We actually have a very big squad, when you factor in returning loans and the emerging youth. Some of these loans will be difficult to move on and are on too high a wage to simply "rot in the reserves" so somehow he has to give them a clean slate. This might work for the players but then the first time the ball bounces of Diakhaby and lands outside Argos the JSS crowd may destroy any confidence he has built.
2. A wholesale change of mentality and tactics is needed - we have been, largely, a negative side since quite early in our first season in the EPL.
3. Leaders - we really lack them. Schindler is a very quiet captain, whatever happens is never Hogg's fault and other than that, what do we have?
4. Budget - we're never going to buy our way to success with Phil in charge. COVID has put paid to any slim prospect of that as he now has the perfect excuse. Fees for players we move on will be reduced as the market shrinks, and even if it can all go back on the pitch, we're going to need a combination of freebies, loans and bargains.
5. Time - how long will he get? What will the measures of success after 10/20/30 games be? If the JSS mob start to lose faith early if we don't see immediate results (and we are, whether we like it or not, nearly as fickle as the fans of his last employer) is Phil going to panic and pull the trigger as a knee-jerk? Phil is determined to be popular. He's made a pig's ear of it so far, but it's so obvious he wants to be idolised.
It's a huge task. Huge. good luck to him.
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Post by dugnet on Jul 24, 2020 9:23:12 GMT 1
Quick Spanish lesson for the uddersfield supporters. The Spaniards don't pronounce their h's Any word that ends 'al' in English, is the same in Spanish "Get it forward" - "adelante." "That's it" - "eso es". Probably covers it. Can just imagine loads of town fans shouting S.O.S - hopefully for the right reasons. ;-) I wonder what; Gerrit forrwad For christ sake Town Bloody rubbish Are in Spanish??
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 24, 2020 9:27:54 GMT 1
Think that’s a little bit unfair on Wagner. It all got too much for him when Hoyle was at death’s door, the players we bought weren’t good enough and the momentum from promotion had gone. He was basically carrying the club single handed with Hoyle in hospital. I hope PH learns from Hoyle’s mistakes and gets a better team around him so the responsibility is shared around more and the manager has support from more people. It wasn't meant as a knock at DW, I have a lot of time for the man. I am sure DH being so ill was a huge knock to him but he left us before the end of the season whilst we were in a relegation battle. He ran out of steam and that partly came, possibly, for caring so much, but he still jumped ship. My point is I don't get the impression Carlos will be like that. I think he will be more ruthless, if that is not too harsh a word, more detached, and I think that is a better way, given how hard a job it is, to enable you to carry on when things aren't going well. It is all supposition on my part but it is just my first impressions from his interview. You may well be right on the new man but it’s a lot to read from one interview. What I would say is that he seems less charismatic that Wagner so that might make it harder to get the players onside? Again just a guess. I think it’s the right move but the more I think about it the tougher his job gets. Seems like it might be a very short turn around for next season and we need to get a lot of players in - the quality of those players will be the biggest factor in whether he succeeds or not. Hopefully it will be exciting, could do with an easy-ish start to the season to get a fair wind behind us.
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Post by dugnet on Jul 24, 2020 9:30:09 GMT 1
I think there are various challenges he will face 1. We actually have a very big squad, when you factor in returning loans and the emerging youth. Some of these loans will be difficult to move on and are on too high a wage to simply "rot in the reserves" so somehow he has to give them a clean slate. This might work for the players but then the first time the ball bounces of Diakhaby and lands outside Argos the JSS crowd may destroy any confidence he has built. 2. A wholesale change of mentality and tactics is needed - we have been, largely, a negative side since quite early in our first season in the EPL. 3. Leaders - we really lack them. Schindler is a very quiet captain, whatever happens is never Hogg's fault and other than that, what do we have? 4. Budget - we're never going to buy our way to success with Phil in charge. COVID has put paid to any slim prospect of that as he now has the perfect excuse. Fees for players we move on will be reduced as the market shrinks, and even if it can all go back on the pitch, we're going to need a combination of freebies, loans and bargains. 5. Time - how long will he get? What will the measures of success after 10/20/30 games be? If the JSS mob start to lose faith early if we don't see immediate results (and we are, whether we like it or not, nearly as fickle as the fans of his last employer) is Phil going to panic and pull the trigger as a knee-jerk? Phil is determined to be popular. He's made a pig's ear of it so far, but it's so obvious he wants to be idolised. It's a huge task. Huge. good luck to him. Just on budget - Covid is the same for the all the market (outside the Premier League). Those with cash (I don't know how much we actually have - does anyone these days given the messages from PH??) but with many Championship clubs in financially mire (I don;t think we are one) there could/should be opportunity for those better run to exploit the market. It wouldn't surprise me if stable squads, say like PNE, Millwall and possibly Luton (I know they are not fantastic teams but effective) could do better than you'd imagine. The trick is using the market to your favour and getting more bang for your buck. Now that is easier said than done. The football department need to show they have learned from the rudderless pinsticking apporoach we have had since Webber left. As for PH's ego. Get it right and he's a hero, make another pigs ear and he is Ken Davy Mk2.
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Post by Amigo on Jul 24, 2020 9:34:36 GMT 1
Thanks for trying to answer but it's a lot of straw clutching and nothing of any substance. We've appointed an under 23 manager, that was just half his job wasn't it? Many many managers have started having had very similar roles though. Points 2, 3, 4 and 5 you've made are pretty much the same point but spread out to make it look like more reasons than there are. We've played many more academy players than that on the last day before, it wasn't exactly a youth side the average age was over 25. Reading a lot in to what was said on twitter, there's a few young lads in here so they've bigged them up it's hardly surprising. Basically what you're saying is because we've done the unthinkable and appointed someone that's worked with young players previously in his career and because there's a few young lads in the squad on the last day of the season and because the twitter page has given them a bit of PR and embellished the story a little this means that PH is demanding the team next season is going to be full of academy lads and we're not buying any players this summer? The comment about the team having 7 academy players in the game vs Millwall spoiled what was a good interview IMO. It had no relevance whatsoever and as anyone who watched the game knew it wasn't exactly a good advert for the players involved. Adding 7 academy players was contrived and the mention of it in the interview was also contrived. All it suggests to me is that the club has an unrealistic expectation of its younger players, I'm just hoping its not expecting them to replace quality signings otherwise we're in the shit. I totally get that young players need to be given the opportunity but Ive always struggled with the concept that managers deliberately ignore the talent that's under their noses, its more a case they have a look and decide they're not good enough one way or another. Does anyone think we'd still be in the championship if Cowley had played Brown and Duhaney as full backs instead of Simpson and Toffalo? I rate both of the young players, Brown in particular, but this season wasn't the time to chuck youngsters in and we need better as first choice at the moment IMO. To be honest I'd be way more inclined to trust Danny Cowley as a judge than Danny Schofield, Phil and Bromby. Thats no disrespect to any of them but they don't have the experience of being a first team coach, or the unrelenting pressure to deliver results. We've heard this all before, I seem to remember Powell was accused of it, I dont remember a raft of youth players suddenly coming to the fore when he left. I can think of Duane Holmes and Josh Windass that seem to have slipped through the net but they were both late developers, not good enough when at Town and overlooked by more than one manager. I think too much is being read in to the whole 7 academy players to be honest. They could be using it to attract more young players from other clubs with the attraction that we give youth a chance rather than actually believing we have good youngsters now, you could read it they think the opposite and need the PR to attract better. I've still seen nothing to make me think he team is going to be full of academy players next year. I agree that managers don't ignore players in their own club and go out and buy someone else for the sake of it. If the quality is there they'll use it if it isn't they won't. To be fair our results were actually worse after Toffolo joined but I get your point. I think we've heard all this before because nearly every club at some point every year or 2 will talk about bringing youngsters through, whether it's to give the players themselves a boost, or give the fans something to look forward to or to make youngsters at other clubs take notice and think the grass might be greener.
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Post by tepidterrier on Jul 24, 2020 9:42:04 GMT 1
I wish my Spanish was as good as his English. Somebody needs to tell him he can drop his H's while 'ees managing uddersfield. if he's pronouncing his H 'properly' he's overdeveloped his english for working in west yorkshire! pronouncing the h is one of the most deceptively hard things for spanish speakers learning english, the closest thing they have is like a throat clearing noise. fun/boring fact
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