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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 4, 2020 8:50:55 GMT 1
At 27 he's played less than 200 club games,makes me wonder if he's been plagued by injury problems or lacks consistency and form. His goalscoring is record is decent though for a midfielder. Plagued would be correct, lad only ever manages half a season due to knee and ankle injuries. Yes he struggles with injury, don’t think playing in Scotland helps as he gets hacked a lot.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Aug 4, 2020 8:53:49 GMT 1
Plagued would be correct, lad only ever manages half a season due to knee and ankle injuries. Yes he struggles with injury, don’t think playing in Scotland helps as he gets hacked a lot. I think you’re answering your own question there. We simply can’t afford to carry someone who is an injury risk.
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Post by mids on Aug 4, 2020 9:11:11 GMT 1
Should enquire about Tom Rogic at Celtic. Fallen down the list after injury and would be one of the best if not the best creative midfielder in the Championship. He would be a massive upgrade on what we have. You must be on commission if Town sign Australians - that's all you seem to suggest Just waiting for you to press the claims of Bouncer from Neighbours, or Toadfish - assuming they're alive Having said that Rogic would be a good signing for anyone at our level
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 4, 2020 9:13:07 GMT 1
Yes he struggles with injury, don’t think playing in Scotland helps as he gets hacked a lot. I think you’re answering your own question there. We simply can’t afford to carry someone who is an injury risk. I would take the risk on the back of he’s over his injury and if you liked ESR, has quick feet like ESR, he’s a more mature player who would produce more in goals and assists. Take him on a loan with option to buy.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 4, 2020 9:14:55 GMT 1
Should enquire about Tom Rogic at Celtic. Fallen down the list after injury and would be one of the best if not the best creative midfielder in the Championship. He would be a massive upgrade on what we have. You must be on commission if Town sign Australians - that's all you seem to suggest Just waiting for you to press the claims of Bouncer from Neighbours, or Toadfish - assuming they're alive Having said that Rogic would be a good signing for anyone at our level Ha, just combining my two favourite teams. I would never recommend Toadie haha. There’s no point me recommending from the U.K. because that’s covered, but I’m not sure how often they would be looking at Aussies who are cheaper to buy. On that, no keeper to recommend currently, usually we have some decent keepers, but nothing at the moment.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 4, 2020 12:24:51 GMT 1
Should enquire about Tom Rogic at Celtic. Fallen down the list after injury and would be one of the best if not the best creative midfielder in the Championship. He would be a massive upgrade on what we have. Hopefully he's staying for 10 in a row
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 4, 2020 12:29:16 GMT 1
Should enquire about Tom Rogic at Celtic. Fallen down the list after injury and would be one of the best if not the best creative midfielder in the Championship. He would be a massive upgrade on what we have. Hopefully he's staying for 10 in a row 10 in a row? What a ridiculously dull league that is 😴
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 4, 2020 12:34:31 GMT 1
Should enquire about Tom Rogic at Celtic. Fallen down the list after injury and would be one of the best if not the best creative midfielder in the Championship. He would be a massive upgrade on what we have. Hopefully he's staying for 10 in a row They’ll do it with or without, but they might need him to unlock a SFA cup 😉 I would love to see him kickstart his career at Town banging in some left foot thunderbolts 😁
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Post by Torquayterrier on Aug 4, 2020 12:40:06 GMT 1
That would be asset stripping. I'm not sure that was part of the deal for phil to take over the club. Can't say I'm exactly enamoured with the situation we're potentially in, but that is not asset stripping. I honestly thought at the time that when we went up to PL that whatever was owed to DH at that point would be paid back and we'd work from that point with a clean slate. In retrospect this would have been the correct plan (though it wouldn't have done his public image any favours among many not understanding the situation) even if it meant we were financially nowhere near competitive and came straight back down after one PL season. If that happened but then DH still had to put more money in on top of the PL payments then the club has mismanaged the finances even worse than I thought.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 4, 2020 13:55:40 GMT 1
WYS Daily, 24th July, end of season Town special, Jamie Raynor spoke to Mark Devlin who said Grant wanted to leave, but he worded it as something like ‘he has expressed he wants to play at the highest level’. Basically he wants to go. Here is the link: bbc.in/2WSbWbr Hopefully that applies to every single Town player. They want to play at the highest level. That doesn't necessarily mean they want to leave, like ASAP? To get to the highest level you have to put the effort in along the way and it improves our club whilst players develop with and grow out of us. I know he's scored a lot of goals in a poor team, but I don't see that Grant has done sufficient hard yards to warrant a serious bid from up the ladder yet (although I keep hearing different). His application has been that of a sub £5m player, and we surely can't afford to release him for that low an amount? Sounds like Nahki wells.. see how that worked out for premier league football
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 4, 2020 14:20:52 GMT 1
Hopefully he's staying for 10 in a row 10 in a row? What a ridiculously dull league that is 😴 Unlike Italy or France where the standard is higher but the same team wins the league every year
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 4, 2020 14:21:57 GMT 1
Hopefully that applies to every single Town player. They want to play at the highest level. That doesn't necessarily mean they want to leave, like ASAP? To get to the highest level you have to put the effort in along the way and it improves our club whilst players develop with and grow out of us. I know he's scored a lot of goals in a poor team, but I don't see that Grant has done sufficient hard yards to warrant a serious bid from up the ladder yet (although I keep hearing different). His application has been that of a sub £5m player, and we surely can't afford to release him for that low an amount? Sounds like Nahki wells.. see how that worked out for premier league football And Nakhi was a far better all round player
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 14:46:39 GMT 1
Hopefully that applies to every single Town player. They want to play at the highest level. That doesn't necessarily mean they want to leave, like ASAP? To get to the highest level you have to put the effort in along the way and it improves our club whilst players develop with and grow out of us. I know he's scored a lot of goals in a poor team, but I don't see that Grant has done sufficient hard yards to warrant a serious bid from up the ladder yet (although I keep hearing different). His application has been that of a sub £5m player, and we surely can't afford to release him for that low an amount? Sounds like Nahki wells.. see how that worked out for premier league football Well he didn't get much game time, but he's been at (and remains at) clubs who have finished higher than Town every single season since he left (including plenty of games and goals at two clubs that finished higher than we did this season) - plus barring Aaron Mooy (and Phil Billing and Jon Stead !?) he has ended up with more years of EPL wages than any other Town player in the history of the universe has, and perhaps ever will? Seems like quite a successful step to me.
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Post by Tiro on Aug 4, 2020 15:26:06 GMT 1
Sounds like Nahki wells.. see how that worked out for premier league football Well he didn't get much game time, but he's been at (and remains at) clubs who have finished higher than Town every single season since he left (including plenty of games and goals at two clubs that finished higher than we did this season) - plus barring Aaron Mooy (and Phil Billing and Jon Stead !?) he has ended up with more years of EPL wages than any other Town player in the history of the universe has, and perhaps ever will? Seems like quite a successful step to me. Wow, that's a tedious point of reference to build an argument from. Is that what we're basing success on, not performance? Literally being an employee of sorts. He can't touch Stewart's 62 appearances and 25 goals in the PL, and his 3 goals in 4 UEFA cup games, and nor will he. Ever.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 4, 2020 15:46:56 GMT 1
Nothing wrong with wanting to play at a higher level the problems seem to start when you, your agent, your mum and the hangers on are the only ones convinced your latest mediocre (at best) performances are worthy of you becoming a bleeding pain in the arse at your club to get any sort of better move??? Grants lack of real pace and upper body strength do come into focus when he does not give 100% effort all round..
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 4, 2020 16:18:07 GMT 1
10 in a row? What a ridiculously dull league that is 😴 Unlike Italy or France where the standard is higher but the same team wins the league every year That doesn't make the SPL any less dull though does it? Tbf since 2010 Ligue 1 has had 4 different winners.
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Post by alexdire on Aug 4, 2020 17:00:26 GMT 1
Sounds like Nahki wells.. see how that worked out for premier league football Well he didn't get much game time, but he's been at (and remains at) clubs who have finished higher than Town every single season since he left (including plenty of games and goals at two clubs that finished higher than we did this season) - plus barring Aaron Mooy (and Phil Billing and Jon Stead !?) he has ended up with more years of EPL wages than any other Town player in the history of the universe has, and perhaps ever will? Seems like quite a successful step to me. Simon Charlton 9 seasons Chris Marsden 5 seasons Obviously they earned less money spent a hell of a lot longer and actually played every season.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 4, 2020 17:27:54 GMT 1
Unlike Italy or France where the standard is higher but the same team wins the league every year That doesn't make the SPL any less dull though does it? Tbf since 2010 Ligue 1 has had 4 different winners. Maybe so but PSG have won 7 out of the last 8 and were 2nd the other year. This years PL was dull, it was near on won by Xmas
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 4, 2020 17:57:59 GMT 1
Sounds like Nahki wells.. see how that worked out for premier league football Well he didn't get much game time, but he's been at (and remains at) clubs who have finished higher than Town every single season since he left (including plenty of games and goals at two clubs that finished higher than we did this season) - plus barring Aaron Mooy (and Phil Billing and Jon Stead !?) he has ended up with more years of EPL wages than any other Town player in the history of the universe has, and perhaps ever will? Seems like quite a successful step to me. When we were in the premier league he wasn’t playing was he. Town were a stepping stone for him to the premier league, we out grew him. He thought he would get a new contract at a premier league club and be playing.. he got the club but no playing. So back off to the championship he went. Grant I feel will be similar..
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 4, 2020 18:02:04 GMT 1
That doesn't make the SPL any less dull though does it? Tbf since 2010 Ligue 1 has had 4 different winners. Maybe so but PSG have won 7 out of the last 8 and were 2nd the other year. This years PL was dull, it was near on won by Xmas The last time any other team than Rangers or Celtic won the 'SPL' was 1985. The dullest league in Europe.
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Post by realmadkid on Aug 4, 2020 18:09:21 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 4, 2020 18:13:02 GMT 1
Maybe so but PSG have won 7 out of the last 8 and were 2nd the other year. This years PL was dull, it was near on won by Xmas The last time any other team than Rangers or Celtic won the 'SPL' was 1985. The dullest league in Europe. It's never dull when random pub teams keep beating Rangers, it's hilarious
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Post by workshyfop on Aug 4, 2020 18:18:25 GMT 1
That doesn't make the SPL any less dull though does it? Tbf since 2010 Ligue 1 has had 4 different winners. Maybe so but PSG have won 7 out of the last 8 and were 2nd the other year. This years PL was dull, it was near on won by Xmas I was looking back at the season bets thread and I'd made the point that if you fancied anyone other than the favourites in each league, there were some great long odds and you only needed one of them to come in ... of course, that meant opposing PSG in France, Celtic in Scotland, Liverpool or Man City in England, Barcelona or Real in Spain, Juve in Italy, Bayern Munich in Germany. Just didn't happen or ever look like happening. I think Bayern have eight in a row, Juve nine, Celtic nine, PSG 7 out of 8, Liverpool er, one!
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Post by digs on Aug 4, 2020 18:23:42 GMT 1
Well he didn't get much game time, but he's been at (and remains at) clubs who have finished higher than Town every single season since he left (including plenty of games and goals at two clubs that finished higher than we did this season) - plus barring Aaron Mooy (and Phil Billing and Jon Stead !?) he has ended up with more years of EPL wages than any other Town player in the history of the universe has, and perhaps ever will? Seems like quite a successful step to me. Simon Charlton 9 seasons Chris Marsden 5 seasons Obviously they earned less money spent a hell of a lot longer and actually played every season. Scott Arfield
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Aug 4, 2020 18:24:22 GMT 1
bit rich when you have far better strikers this season in the Championship. If he wants Premier League football how about he earns it with us? Having said that if he wants out we get (a lot of) money to re-invest. I’d imagine Dean will get first dibs on any money coming in so I doubt the money we get for grant will be used for reinvestment, it’ll be going to Dean more than likely. How many billion are owed to Dean. All the parachute money, all transfer receipts, 50% of all season card revenue until 2037/38 and all the money from the ale retailers. Wow!
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Aug 4, 2020 18:26:16 GMT 1
Can't say I'm exactly enamoured with the situation we're potentially in, but that is not asset stripping. What situation would that be exactly? excluding the transfer money, repaying debt? Not asset stripping.
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Post by nicovaesen on Aug 4, 2020 18:27:36 GMT 1
Can we get Wigan players now on frees?
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Aug 4, 2020 18:33:58 GMT 1
Can we get Wigan players now on frees? Cut price definitely. We should be straight in for Jamal Lowe and Sam Morsy
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Post by Camel Grabber on Aug 4, 2020 19:12:47 GMT 1
Can we get Wigan players now on frees? Cut price definitely. We should be straight in for Jamal Lowe and Sam Morsy Cedric kipre and Nathan Byrne would be good too
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Post by leroy212 on Aug 4, 2020 19:39:07 GMT 1
Can we get Wigan players now on frees? Cut price definitely. We should be straight in for Jamal Lowe and Sam Morsy I think morsy is going to end up at a lower premier League team
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