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Post by alexdire on Oct 5, 2020 21:14:57 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M This squad will get relegated to League one. What do you think the future of the club is when we are there? How long do you think we will last? If we go down this season, I don't give us more than five years. Parachute payments will have gone. TV money will have gone. Crowds will dwindle. We won't be able to attract these young players our new model relies on. |
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Post by gingerc on Oct 5, 2020 21:15:13 GMT 1
Jack Wiltshire just had his contract at West Ham terminated by mutual consent. Still reckons he can offer something at the top level and has been fit for most of his time at West Ham so unlikely to be willing to drop a division and there’s no way we’ll pay what he’d be after in wages. Shame as he’d be a great fulcrum we could build around. |
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Post by arroloui on Oct 5, 2020 21:20:17 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M This squad will get relegated to League one. What do you think the future of the club is when we are there? How long do you think we will last? If we go down this season, I don't give us more than five years. Parachute payments will have gone. TV money will have gone. Crowds will dwindle. We won't be able to attract these young players our new model relies on. i agree we are fucked if we don't sign a striker b4 the next game.. PH spend some fooking Money |
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Post by alexdire on Oct 5, 2020 21:22:57 GMT 1
This squad will get relegated to League one. What do you think the future of the club is when we are there? How long do you think we will last? If we go down this season, I don't give us more than five years. Parachute payments will have gone. TV money will have gone. Crowds will dwindle. We won't be able to attract these young players our new model relies on. i agree we are fucked if we don't sign a striker b4 the next game.. PH spend some fooking Money If we sell Grant and don't sign another striker. We are f@#£ed. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 21:30:17 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M We will see how true that is over the next few years. If the club is desperate for a large, cash contingency fund I’m sure our former owner would defer the scheduled payments owed to him. The reality is that we are paying him off more than three times the match day revenue we are losing. We are missing out on vital sponsorship revenue by being the only club in the pyramid unable to attract investment. It’s a self-propelling cycle of decline and we appear to be greasing the slide. The club is in a siege mentality, communication is non-existent. Interaction on issues such as Canalside are over defensive and aggressive. We appear to be run with an overt reliance on smoke, mirrors and ambiguity. It’s not all about investment, it’s about simply being a part of the community. I honestly think there is a lack of emotional intelligence and compassion about the club. Lots of folk are having a horrendous time and hold Town as close to their hearts as anything in their lives. The club seems to have abandoned them. I live 250 miles away and haven’t had a season ticket for 22 years but good friends could really use a presence from what has been marketed as a community club for the past decade. ‘The Yorkshire Club’, a ‘Working Class Club’, this is the terminology we’ve described ourself as over the past 12 years. Fans have based parts of their own identity around what the club was, the voice it had and the force for good it became. You might think I’m talking bollocks but this is important. These people have been abandoned as the club has retreated and hidden away from months of difficult questions. Fine if you want to simply run a business but unacceptable if you purport to be more than that. |
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Post by wigster on Oct 5, 2020 21:30:41 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M Then why, MB, don't the club COMMUNICATE with the supporters and explain our position ? Nobody is expecting the club to tell us all our exact financial position and transfer dealings but some bloody explanation of our plans - short-term and long term - would be appreciated. We haven't heard a word from the present Chairman for ages - surely he's not still upset by that criticism he got is he ? - and Mr Hoyle (who still has 25%) was very keen on the media when we were doing well and even did that long rather smug podcast but, as far as I'm aware and I'm certainly happy to be corrected, we haven't heard a single word from him about our relegation season, his appalling purchases etc etc And just to stop those usual posters replying that we have no right to know these things can you take it as read that I disagree ? |
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Post by space hardware on Oct 5, 2020 21:35:46 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M Salary cap? Have I missed something? |
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Oct 5, 2020 21:38:22 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M Salary cap? Have I missed something? For League One 😅🎣 |
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Post by betsvigi9 on Oct 5, 2020 21:39:28 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M |
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Post by 4 pts on Oct 5, 2020 21:39:37 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M We will see how true that is over the next few years. If the club is desperate for a large, cash contingency fund I’m sure our former owner would defer the scheduled payments owed to him. The reality is that we are paying him off more than three times the match day revenue we are losing. We are missing out on vital sponsorship revenue by being the only club in the pyramid unable to attract investment. It’s a self-propelling cycle of decline and we appear to be greasing the slide. The club is in a siege mentality, communication is non-existent. Interaction on issues such as Canalside are over defensive and aggressive. We appear to be run with an overt reliance on smoke, mirrors and ambiguity. It’s not all about investment, it’s about simply being a part of the community. I honestly think there is a lack of emotional intelligence and compassion about the club. Lots of folk are having a horrendous time and hold Town as close to their hearts as anything in their lives. The club seems to have abandoned them. I live 250 miles away and haven’t had a season ticket for 22 years but good friends could really use a presence from what has been marketed as a community club for the past decade. ‘The Yorkshire Club’, a ‘Working Class Club’, this is the terminology we’ve described ourself as over the past 12 years. Fans have based parts of their own identity around what the club was, the voice it had and the force for good it became. You might think I’m talking bollocks but this is important. These people have been abandoned as the club has retreated and hidden away from months of difficult questions. Fine if you want to simply run a business but unacceptable if you purport to be more than that. Fantastic post  |
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Post by arroloui on Oct 5, 2020 21:41:41 GMT 1
We will see how true that is over the next few years. If the club is desperate for a large, cash contingency fund I’m sure our former owner would defer the scheduled payments owed to him. The reality is that we are paying him off more than three times the match day revenue we are losing. We are missing out on vital sponsorship revenue by being the only club in the pyramid unable to attract investment. It’s a self-propelling cycle of decline and we appear to be greasing the slide. The club is in a siege mentality, communication is non-existent. Interaction on issues such as Canalside are over defensive and aggressive. We appear to be run with an overt reliance on smoke, mirrors and ambiguity. It’s not all about investment, it’s about simply being a part of the community. I honestly think there is a lack of emotional intelligence and compassion about the club. Lots of folk are having a horrendous time and hold Town as close to their hearts as anything in their lives. The club seems to have abandoned them. I live 250 miles away and haven’t had a season ticket for 22 years but good friends could really use a presence from what has been marketed as a community club for the past decade. ‘The Yorkshire Club’, a ‘Working Class Club’, this is the terminology we’ve described ourself as over the past 12 years. Fans have based parts of their own identity around what the club was, the voice it had and the force for good it became. You might think I’m talking bollocks but this is important. These people have been abandoned as the club has retreated and hidden away from months of difficult questions. Fine if you want to simply run a business but unacceptable if you purport to be more than that. Fantastic post 👏👏👏 |
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Post by 4 pts on Oct 5, 2020 21:41:50 GMT 1
Salary cap? Have I missed something? For League One 😅🎣 £18m salary cap for Championship clubs as proposed by the EPL |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 5, 2020 21:47:40 GMT 1
I wonder how many people on this thread, at some point in their lives, only ever got their Town news from the Examiner, the Yorks Post or Ceefax?
It's barmy that there are so many demands on club officials nowadays, each and every one of them with a personal social media presence is one click away from being abused by some fecking dingbat from Osset, Almondbury or Barbados. You don't even have to write your abuse down by hand, stick a stamp on it & walk to the postbox... (red, black or gold...) Write shit, click send...
Were people this pissed off when we only had those news sources for your quota of all things Town, or did we have other things to be getting on with?
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Oct 5, 2020 21:51:50 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M I think there are a lot of young posters demanding more information from the club and disappointed/frustrated about the club's reluctance to do so. I think it is down to the instant gratification that is prevalent in youth culture. Instant food, instant relationships, I must know immediately anything I decide is important NOW. This combined with conspiracy theorists / misinformation or "fake news" as some morons would call it, make for very disjointed lines of communication. The business world etc do not work to the same rules, probably why town hierarchy dont engage as openly as we would like. (Also they dont have that communication skill set) |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 5, 2020 21:55:58 GMT 1
I think Phil got that pissed off with everything he said last year being twisted that he's decided to go for complete silence
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Oct 5, 2020 22:01:33 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M Very true, fan's are for life not just two season in the Premiership. Who knows when we will be back in the stadiums, no one does and one thing is for sure clubs will go under when all this virus business is sorted out. |
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Post by alexdire on Oct 5, 2020 22:02:32 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M Salary cap? Have I missed something? Impending is the key word. There is talk of bringing this into the championship. Also if we get relegated there is one currently in League One. |
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Post by betsvigi9 on Oct 5, 2020 22:05:53 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M I don't think this is just about "new toys". The squad has been seriously and significantly reduced. (The wage bill, too surely.) The evidence from games played so far is that we cannot score goals. Admittedly only 5 played but we also struggled massively last season WITH Karlan Grant. The Grant exit saga has been frustrating for all fans. Now, even the most optimistic fan, enthused by the potential of Corberan's coaching, is struggling to believe that we can compete effectively with diminished resources and insufficient, goal scoring creativity. And if we get relegated surely it will cost the club far more, across the board. There is a 2.5 million salary cap in League 1. That really will be a problem if we go down. Prudence yes, ok but what about some pragmatism, too? And facing up to the glaringly obvious. More communication with the fans would also help. |
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 5, 2020 22:09:43 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M So basically fans need to get their head out of the sand and accept that we are selling all of our assets and barely replacing them. Good football people wouldn't have left us in the mess we are in having taken their money back and spunked it on shit. We fans don't ask for much, a fucking goal would be nice or a player that can score one. I totally accept the climate and its challenges however I do not accept that we are not in a position to invest on a goal scorer given the 10s of millions recouped in player sales and the vast amounts of money from parachute payments. Its not greedy or wreckless to expect that. |
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Post by 4 pts on Oct 5, 2020 22:13:34 GMT 1
I wonder how many people on this thread, at some point in their lives, only ever got their Town news from the Examiner, the Yorks Post or Ceefax? It's barmy that there are so many demands on club officials nowadays, each and every one of them with a personal social media presence is one click away from being abused by some fecking dingbat from Osset, Almondbury or Barbados. You don't even have to write your abuse down by hand, stick a stamp on it & walk to the postbox... (red, black or gold...) Write shit, click send... Were people this pissed off when we only had those news sources for your quota of all things Town, or did we have other things to be getting on with? But we are now in 2020, so its irrelevant. Question Ego. Do you think PH, Devlin etc etc would be "Going Dark" if we were playing extremely well and challenging for promotion ? |
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Post by aca00js on Oct 5, 2020 22:13:41 GMT 1
The lack of the communication from the club is making the situation even worse.
They have lost trust in the more sensible fans. Look at the misunderstanding about from a loo g term sponser over the Booth incident.
This is what is important now, they just have to tell us what the plan is. Those in the know keep offering little bits here and there but we should be hearing this clearly.
I don't think anybody is expecting us to go out and spunk millions on players, as we've never for that.
But they created the expectations of the Wagner season which was when we knew football and the world was screwed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 22:15:33 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M I think there are a lot of young posters demanding more information from the club and disappointed/frustrated about the club's reluctance to do so. I think it is down to the instant gratification that is prevalent in youth culture. Instant food, instant relationships, I must know immediately anything I decide is important NOW. This combined with conspiracy theorists / misinformation or "fake news" as some morons would call it, make for very disjointed lines of communication. The business world etc do not work to the same rules, probably why town hierarchy dont engage as openly as we would like. (Also they dont have that communication skill set) You are right Allan but don’t give the whole picture. The club themselves use direct marketing, emails, Twitter & even random phone calls to market themselves to fans. If they embrace modern technology to sell they can be reasonably expected to use those same communication streams to pass other information to the fan base. Also, if they want to hide behind ‘business convention’ then accept they are just that. Forget the appeals for loyalty, the marketing of ‘belonging’ and the claims of being at the heart of the community. They can’t be one in the good times and another in the bad. If they can beg fans not to seek refunds for season tickets (11k sold this year, £2.2m if you say they have an average cost of £200 which equates to around half the expected match day revenue for the season) when the product is non-existent then the ‘we’re just a business abiding by standard protocols’ is farcical. |
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Post by gingerc on Oct 5, 2020 22:18:32 GMT 1
Nyland released by Villa...
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Oct 5, 2020 22:22:02 GMT 1
Just as an aside wont 2 of our biggest earners be out of contract at the end of the season I.e. those 2 useless wingers. God I hope so.
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Post by Maynardblue on Oct 5, 2020 22:22:08 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M So basically fans need to get their head out of the sand and accept that we are selling all of our assets and barely replacing them. Good football people wouldn't have left us in the mess we are in having taken their money back and spunked it on shit. We fans don't ask for much, a fucking goal would be nice or a player that can score one. I totally accept the climate and its challenges however I do not accept that we are not in a position to invest on a goal scorer given the 10s of millions recouped in player sales and the vast amounts of money from parachute payments. Its not greedy or wreckless to expect that. Don't confuse the people who WERE running the club with the people who ARE running the club |
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 5, 2020 22:24:29 GMT 1
So basically fans need to get their head out of the sand and accept that we are selling all of our assets and barely replacing them. Good football people wouldn't have left us in the mess we are in having taken their money back and spunked it on shit. We fans don't ask for much, a fucking goal would be nice or a player that can score one. I totally accept the climate and its challenges however I do not accept that we are not in a position to invest on a goal scorer given the 10s of millions recouped in player sales and the vast amounts of money from parachute payments. Its not greedy or wreckless to expect that. Don't confuse the people who WERE running the club with the people who ARE running the club But doesn't the previous owner still have a large say in affairs with his 25% stake? The thing that grinds my gears is that you actually cannot fault the majority of our signings under his chairmanship, its just that right now our squad is paper thin and the gaps are glaring. Its not about chucking money like confetti its the frustration that we are a tweak or two away from really competing at the top end of the table yet we don't seem to be doing anything about it. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Oct 5, 2020 22:29:40 GMT 1
Don't confuse the people who WERE running the club with the people who ARE running the club But doesn't the previous owner still have a large say in affairs with his 25% stake? The thing that grinds my gears is that you actually cannot fault the majority of our signings under his chairmanship, its just that right now our squad is paper thin and the gaps are glaring. Its not about chucking money like confetti its the frustration that we are a tweak or two away from really competing at the top end of the table yet we don't seem to be doing anything about it. And that’s the issue isn’t it we can see the style of play coming through it’s just them two decent signings at the top end that could really push us on!. Hopefully if we do shift grant we can get them before the Swansea game, if not it’s going to be a real shame and games like Rotherham will be quite frequent this season. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 22:31:31 GMT 1
Don't confuse the people who WERE running the club with the people who ARE running the club But doesn't the previous owner still have a large say in affairs with his 25% stake? The thing that grinds my gears is that you actually cannot fault the majority of our signings under his chairmanship, its just that right now our squad is paper thin and the gaps are glaring. Its not about chucking money like confetti its the frustration that we are a tweak or two away from really competing at the top end of the table yet we don't seem to be doing anything about it. We have 11 days left with which to rectify that. If Grant stays ive no doubt he’ll be reintegrated into the team. It’s only 10 weeks then until the January window opens. It’s all cyclical. The results will return at some point, I just hope we haven’t sacrificed too much in the interim. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 22:33:44 GMT 1
People need to get their head out of the sand, football is fucked, the world is fucked. No one knows how things are going to look when this is all over and we need to be as secure as possible to ride it out. The money hasn't disappeared or been siphoned away, it's in the bank for when it's REALLY needed, not so some of you can have a few new toys now. The People running the club, are good, football people who want what's best for us, whether we like their decision or not. Our wage bill has to come down to comply with the impending salary cap and what other clubs do is no concern of ours, we've seen enough basket cases to know the mistakes that get made and who knows who the next one will be and the people running our club are being prudent to make sure it's not us. I apologise this is in the wrong thread. M We will see how true that is over the next few years. If the club is desperate for a large, cash contingency fund I’m sure our former owner would defer the scheduled payments owed to him. The reality is that we are paying him off more than three times the match day revenue we are losing. We are missing out on vital sponsorship revenue by being the only club in the pyramid unable to attract investment. It’s a self-propelling cycle of decline and we appear to be greasing the slide. The club is in a siege mentality, communication is non-existent. Interaction on issues such as Canalside are over defensive and aggressive. We appear to be run with an overt reliance on smoke, mirrors and ambiguity. It’s not all about investment, it’s about simply being a part of the community. I honestly think there is a lack of emotional intelligence and compassion about the club. Lots of folk are having a horrendous time and hold Town as close to their hearts as anything in their lives. The club seems to have abandoned them. I live 250 miles away and haven’t had a season ticket for 22 years but good friends could really use a presence from what has been marketed as a community club for the past decade. ‘The Yorkshire Club’, a ‘Working Class Club’, this is the terminology we’ve described ourself as over the past 12 years. Fans have based parts of their own identity around what the club was, the voice it had and the force for good it became. You might think I’m talking bollocks but this is important. These people have been abandoned as the club has retreated and hidden away from months of difficult questions. Fine if you want to simply run a business but unacceptable if you purport to be more than that. How can you say that? I am not sure why people do not understand how difficult things are for football clubs, ours included, in these unprecedented times. PH has been very clear about how hard it is going to be for many clubs. What is ours expected to do? What information do we need that we are not getting? We know the stance on transfers, we know why CC was brought in and what the club hope he and his fellow coaches can build. We know the offers being made to people who renew their season cards even though they may not get to see a live match. These are things the club can control. The things they cannot control are restrictions put in place by the government and the football authorities but we still know what those are. They also cannot control the huge drop in income whilst still having to pay players overblown wages. Prior to DH taking over we knew very little about the internal workings of the club. Dean and his team put a lot of work into connecting the club to the people, Breakfast club through the Town Foundation, PFP, support for people sleeping rough, etc. Are the club now being hanged for doing this so well and now, in very difficult times, doing less well? HTAFC is our local football club but it is also, as are all professional football clubs, a business. Why not support the club by supporting the team, in whatever ways we can, and let the staff get on with trying to get the club through these tough times in one piece. |
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Post by townrwe on Oct 5, 2020 22:35:24 GMT 1
Do you know what.... if big Phil came out and said we have no money, we are paying off debts for the long term stability of the football club and we are unlikely to buy or loan anyone this year as we are going to rely on our B team.
Then fair enough. The problem is, the message post covid was of supporting Carlos in the transfer market, This is the fucking 3rd window we were promised, and the bloke in charge doesn't seem to have the bollox to tell the truth.
Ontop of that Devlin appears on BBC news demanding a bail out for football from the Premier league and government..... how does that help negotiate sales of key players when we appear desperate.
11000 fans bought a season ticket, They deserve more than blaming Covid.
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