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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 28, 2020 10:04:33 GMT 1
If that's what town are holding out for I totally agree with them We should stick to our guns Wonder what Karlan thinks about West Brom's lack of commitment? If he wants the move then he will agree to a 1 Yr contract extension to force it through. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Sept 28, 2020 10:38:21 GMT 1
What if he breaks his leg first game and never fully recovers? The risk is on us when they’re the ones getting £100m + this year. I’d tell them to fuck right off.
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Post by townatheart on Sept 28, 2020 10:53:40 GMT 1
What if he breaks his leg first game and never fully recovers? The risk is on us when they’re the ones getting £100m + this year. I’d tell them to fuck right off. Exactly, they really are trying to take advantage. Think that is attempt at "cake and eat it too". |
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Post by crux on Sept 28, 2020 11:11:28 GMT 1
If they want it as an option to buy, then the loan fee is £10m with an extra £10m as the option to buy. For a guaranteed purchase £5m loan and £13m extra will do.
PS: I'd also be contacting West Ham, Crystal Palace and maybe one or two others, giving them all until the end of this weekend coming to complete or Grant stays until January at least.
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 28, 2020 11:23:34 GMT 1
If grant goes it’s got to be an obligation to buy at the end of the season otherwise we could be back to square one with an unhappy player we’re trying to shift on! Only plus side of them not having to purchase him is he goes on loan does well and West Brom stay up and his price goes up but that’s a big if.
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 28, 2020 12:05:38 GMT 1
If grant goes it’s got to be an obligation to buy at the end of the season otherwise we could be back to square one with an unhappy player we’re trying to shift on! Only plus side of them not having to purchase him is he goes on loan does well and West Brom stay up and his price goes up but that’s a big if. Price won't go up because they will have an option to buy at a price agreed now. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 28, 2020 12:26:50 GMT 1
If grant goes it’s got to be an obligation to buy at the end of the season otherwise we could be back to square one with an unhappy player we’re trying to shift on! Only plus side of them not having to purchase him is he goes on loan does well and West Brom stay up and his price goes up but that’s a big if. Price won't go up because they will have an option to buy at a price agreed now. That’s all depends if there’s an obligation to buy or not if he has a good season and it’s not agreed that he’ll go his price would go up as he wouldn’t be tied down to sign for West Brom |
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 28, 2020 13:07:16 GMT 1
I like the sound of 5m loan fee with an obligation to buy if they stay up to be honest. If he plays well for them and they stay up, we get the 18m or so fee reported. If he plays well and they go down there's the opportunity to get a bigger fee for him from someone else. If he has a bad season, Town either get an inflated fee or get him back with his tail between his legs a bit. It's tempting to cash in but this way is very flexible.
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Post by detox on Sept 28, 2020 13:16:08 GMT 1
If WBA get relegated we can keep the £5m and market him at £18m again, hopefully he scores plenty of goals for them we might get £25m..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 13:32:04 GMT 1
Theres a 0% chance West Brom stay up the same with Fulham, just hope the club take that into account on any dealings.
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Post by goodbet on Sept 28, 2020 14:58:15 GMT 1
I guess that if they are asking for a loan it has a number of barriers in it's way.
- The length of his contract, will he sign a years extension, if the deal goes through.
- I assume Town will want a guaranteed transfer as they apparently want to buy him anyway it is just the way that payments are made that are holding things up (we hear).
- If WBA do get relegated, then that is just tough on them, like it was on us. They get the player they want and some way to move the payments around to meet their financial straight jacket.
I just can't see anyone letting him go on loan with a clause that lets them out of the deal if they come straight back down. Especially without a contract extension, but this is Town!
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 28, 2020 15:17:34 GMT 1
Theres a 0% chance West Brom stay up the same with Fulham, just hope the club take that into account on any dealings. Like when we stayed up? They just put three past chelski |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 28, 2020 15:21:35 GMT 1
If WBA get relegated we can keep the £5m and market him at £18m again, hopefully he scores plenty of goals for them we might get £25m.. We were hoping Kongolo would do well for Fulham last season so we could maximise his sell-on price but he got injured in his second game. Same with Diakhaby at Forest but he reduced his value further, if that's possible, with some shocking displays for them. It can work both ways but the safest bet his to loan him with a compulsory buy at the end of the loan. |
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Post by dezzly on Sept 28, 2020 16:37:14 GMT 1
Steven chicken has done a piece stating that’s club says the loan rumour is not true.seems we are still waiting for West Brom to our forward a payment structure they suits us.as domestic window open until the 16th could drag on a good while yet as could maybe any kongolo deal
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 28, 2020 16:43:45 GMT 1
Steven chicken has done a piece stating that’s club says the loan rumour is not true.seems we are still waiting for West Brom to our forward a payment structure they suits us.as domestic window open until the 16th could drag on a good while yet as could maybe any kongolo deal Not quite: |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Sept 28, 2020 16:53:00 GMT 1
Kongolo on route to London I hope his sat nav works  |
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Post by dezzly on Sept 28, 2020 17:03:33 GMT 1
Steven chicken has done a piece stating that’s club says the loan rumour is not true.seems we are still waiting for West Brom to our forward a payment structure they suits us.as domestic window open until the 16th could drag on a good while yet as could maybe any kongolo deal Not quite: Yeh I did see that however was lazy and couldn’t be arsed typing it out word for word 😂 the tone of the article did suggest was pretty unlikely though as said something along lines of if they were to pay a very substantial loan fee with obligation to buy they may aswel just pay the same as an upfront payment.open to interpretation though I suppose. |
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 28, 2020 17:19:55 GMT 1
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Post by detox on Sept 28, 2020 17:37:36 GMT 1
Not if they get relegated... Is option only, we don't have to agree |
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Post by gpaul19781 on Sept 28, 2020 18:00:20 GMT 1
I guess that if they are asking for a loan it has a number of barriers in it's way. - The length of his contract, will he sign a years extension, if the deal goes through. - I assume Town will want a guaranteed transfer as they apparently want to buy him anyway it is just the way that payments are made that are holding things up (we hear). - If WBA do get relegated, then that is just tough on them, like it was on us. They get the player they want and some way to move the payments around to meet their financial straight jacket. I just can't see anyone letting him go on loan with a clause that lets them out of the deal if they come straight back down. Especially without a contract extension, but this is Town! He's contracted until 2022 plus a year option |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 18:12:08 GMT 1
Kongolo on route to London I hope his sat nav works Fulham could certainly do with him the way they are defending. |
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Post by Dan on Sept 28, 2020 18:33:49 GMT 1
I hope his sat nav works Fulham could certainly do with him the way they are defending. I'd be surprised if they don't put in a bid for Kongolo at half time, they have been terrible at the back. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Sept 28, 2020 18:34:25 GMT 1
I hope his sat nav works Fulham could certainly do with him the way they are defending. Tonight should seal it come on villa 0-2 |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Sept 28, 2020 18:34:38 GMT 1
I hope his sat nav works Fulham could certainly do with him the way they are defending. Tonight should seal it come on villa 0-2 |
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Post by aca00js on Sept 28, 2020 18:39:08 GMT 1
Why? Initial loan makes loads more sense. If we sell Grant outright for, say £16m, then we probably get £4m a year for 4 years. However, we would immediately have to settle what we owe Charlton (probably 1m) and also give them their sell-on profit fee (20% of 14m is 2.8m) so Charlton would probably be taking all of this year's money. Loan him for a 5m loan fee and we would have much more cash right now, which allows a bit to be reinvested and some to help keep us afloat and offset the longer period with no Matchday income. This thinking is exactly why PH shouldn't have bought the club as he should be able to cover the whole £16m if he wants us to be at this level. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 19:37:52 GMT 1
Why? Initial loan makes loads more sense. If we sell Grant outright for, say £16m, then we probably get £4m a year for 4 years. However, we would immediately have to settle what we owe Charlton (probably 1m) and also give them their sell-on profit fee (20% of 14m is 2.8m) so Charlton would probably be taking all of this year's money. Loan him for a 5m loan fee and we would have much more cash right now, which allows a bit to be reinvested and some to help keep us afloat and offset the longer period with no Matchday income. This thinking is exactly why PH shouldn't have bought the club as he should be able to cover the whole £16m if he wants us to be at this level. lets be honest no one knows what the situation is between town and wba apart from town seem to be sticking to there guns.All this talk in the media outlets about loans are just gossip. if they meet towns valuation in what ever form he will go otherwise unless someone else comes in he will stay.town willlet us know if owt happens. |
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Post by positive plus + pompous on Sept 28, 2020 19:52:51 GMT 1
I like the sound of 5m loan fee with an obligation to buy if they stay up to be honest. If he plays well for them and they stay up, we get the 18m or so fee reported. If he plays well and they go down there's the opportunity to get a bigger fee for him from someone else. If he has a bad season, Town either get an inflated fee or get him back with his tail between his legs a bit. It's tempting to cash in but this way is very flexible. We will be trying to sell him with 1 year less on his contract. Not for me, they need to have an obligation to buy. |
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 28, 2020 20:34:04 GMT 1
Not if they get relegated... Is option only, we don't have to agree Depends on the nature of the deal, I suppose. |
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Post by kwami-hodouto on Sept 28, 2020 21:55:51 GMT 1
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Post by dbterrier32 on Sept 28, 2020 22:16:55 GMT 1
It’s a strange one this, admitting the next person they look at is going to be their 5th choice. How does that go down with a player? Also does that mean Kongolo has Covid or they haven’t even tried to sign him |
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