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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 20, 2020 15:05:03 GMT 1
Has anyone any idea where we are with the progress and completion of the new training facilities ? Are they on track to meet the timetable for completion?
Apologies if I have missed an update from the club on this.
Cheers
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Post by Dan on Sept 20, 2020 15:07:31 GMT 1
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 20, 2020 15:26:01 GMT 1
Cheers dan I hadn’t seen that. Should be good news 👍
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Sept 20, 2020 18:36:12 GMT 1
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Post by Kenny irons on Sept 20, 2020 18:39:45 GMT 1
I would hope they keep developing canalside because that maybe the only thing what could entice players in future And our only thing we managed to keep during our brief stay in the PL
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 20, 2020 18:47:09 GMT 1
When I was up in Birstall week before last (first time since Feb) I drove past Canalside. Only got a quick glimpse but I was disappointed to see the old car parking area on the right of the new entrance gate was still rough and unmade. Not a great first impression.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 20, 2020 19:06:01 GMT 1
Are the toilets now up to the standards required by Laurent Depoitre?
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Post by digs on Sept 21, 2020 8:45:37 GMT 1
Be more usefull doing some fucking Set pieces at the Canalside,and maybe a bit of attacking and defending practice
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 21, 2020 9:20:31 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 9:27:15 GMT 1
The legacy that will never happen.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 9:32:59 GMT 1
no part of that wont happen butthe pitches over the canal have had a lot of money spent onthem and are superb as his the new pitch on the right hand side.plent of work gone on behind the main entrance inside opened up to offices etc and plent additions further back.not been cheap to do but realy is a first class facility . but some will moan as usuall. people will get the chance to make there own judgment.
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 21, 2020 9:42:17 GMT 1
no part of that wont happen butthe pitches over the canal have had a lot of money spent onthem and are superb as his the new pitch on the right hand side.plent of work gone on behind the main entrance inside opened up to offices etc and plent additions further back.not been cheap to do but realy is a first class facility . but some will moan as usuall. people will get the chance to make there own judgment. So why haven't we done what we said we'd saved £20m for then oh wise one?
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 21, 2020 9:48:32 GMT 1
no part of that wont happen butthe pitches over the canal have had a lot of money spent onthem and are superb as his the new pitch on the right hand side.plent of work gone on behind the main entrance inside opened up to offices etc and plent additions further back.not been cheap to do but realy is a first class facility . but some will moan as usuall. people will get the chance to make there own judgment. Who is using the offices? Haven't we made everybody redundant?
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Post by Melc on Sept 21, 2020 9:52:40 GMT 1
no part of that wont happen butthe pitches over the canal have had a lot of money spent onthem and are superb as his the new pitch on the right hand side.plent of work gone on behind the main entrance inside opened up to offices etc and plent additions further back.not been cheap to do but realy is a first class facility . but some will moan as usuall. people will get the chance to make there own judgment. You can talk it up as much as you want positive but the fact remains they did not deliver what was supposed to be a brand new three, but then reduced to two tier main building. All well and good Devlin spouting they would be putting out a video, still to happen, wonder why seeing as they have bugger all to show. That was supposed to be something like the original video, but surprisingly NOT, nothing because they pulled the plug.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 10:09:46 GMT 1
Be more usefull doing some fucking Set pieces at the Canalside,and maybe a bit of attacking and defending practice Did you not see the movement and little jinked freekick finding Mbenza in space in the middle of the penalty area?? Set pieces are already far in advance of where we’ve been at the last 18months...(ignoring Pritchard just kicking the ball as high and hard as he possibly can at every opportunity for no apparent reason 🤬)
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Post by digs on Sept 21, 2020 10:32:45 GMT 1
Be more usefull doing some fucking Set pieces at the Canalside,and maybe a bit of attacking and defending practice Did you not see the movement and little jinked freekick finding Mbenza in space in the middle of the penalty area?? Set pieces are already far in advance of where we’ve been at the last 18months...(ignoring Pritchard just kicking the ball as high and hard as he possibly can at every opportunity for no apparent reason 🤬) I should imagine thousands never saw that free kick,how many goals did we score from it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 10:48:19 GMT 1
Did you not see the movement and little jinked freekick finding Mbenza in space in the middle of the penalty area?? Set pieces are already far in advance of where we’ve been at the last 18months...(ignoring Pritchard just kicking the ball as high and hard as he possibly can at every opportunity for no apparent reason 🤬) I should imagine thousands never saw that free kick,how many goals did we score from it? If you need a goal to validate seeing an obvious improvement then you’re never going to see it I’m afraid to say. Maybe try watching cricket or chess where outcomes are more strictly deterministic if the vagaries of football are too complicated for you.
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Post by dugnet on Sept 21, 2020 10:56:34 GMT 1
This epitomises how things have quickly changed at Town. We had the fanfare of the plan and what this would deliver and then things when quiet, with rumours that the plans had been downsized. We had no further information. Now how many people care, what happens on the pitch is the priority for most isn't it? For me it really demonstrates how we have gone from "we are all in this together", "look how your club is progressing" to relative radio silence.
I will remember the sense of community that Canalside generated. I understand that we had to have a more "professional" facility but we now don't know it's status, at what level it takes our training facilities and what benefits it will provide the club.
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Post by digs on Sept 21, 2020 11:02:05 GMT 1
I should imagine thousands never saw that free kick,how many goals did we score from it? If you need a goal to validate seeing an obvious improvement then you’re never going to see it I’m afraid to say. Maybe try watching cricket or chess where outcomes are more strictly deterministic if the vagaries of football are too complicated for you. I'd try watching Town if Ifollow worked,sounds like you know fuck all about cricket though after that remark,
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Sept 21, 2020 11:07:38 GMT 1
Did you not see the movement and little jinked freekick finding Mbenza in space in the middle of the penalty area?? Set pieces are already far in advance of where we’ve been at the last 18months...(ignoring Pritchard just kicking the ball as high and hard as he possibly can at every opportunity for no apparent reason 🤬) I should imagine thousands never saw that free kick,how many goals did we score from it? We scored from it last season. The same free kick to grant who crossed low to the far post and Mounie scored.
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 21, 2020 11:11:57 GMT 1
This epitomises how things have quickly changed at Town. We had the fanfare of the plan and what this would deliver and then things when quiet, with rumours that the plans had been downsized. We had no further information. Now how many people care, what happens on the pitch is the priority for most isn't it? For me it really demonstrates how we have gone from "we are all in this together", "look how your club is progressing" to relative radio silence. I will remember the sense of community that Canalside generated. I understand that we had to have a more "professional" facility but we now don't know it's status, at what level it takes our training facilities and what benefits it will provide the club. Seemed fair enough on paper - office space at the ground became available, so we need to build less office space. From the outside looking in that now seems to have turned into ditch the new building entirely, repurpose the crap existing one, build a gatehouse and relay some pitches. The kind of work you'd imagine might have happened at some point had we not been promoted. After wages this is probably the most important aspect of attracting players. It's the face of the club to them, a visual of our size and ambition (or lack of). And if it hasn't cost £20m where's the rest of that gone? Certainly not on the squad.
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Post by dugnet on Sept 21, 2020 11:36:04 GMT 1
This epitomises how things have quickly changed at Town. We had the fanfare of the plan and what this would deliver and then things when quiet, with rumours that the plans had been downsized. We had no further information. Now how many people care, what happens on the pitch is the priority for most isn't it? For me it really demonstrates how we have gone from "we are all in this together", "look how your club is progressing" to relative radio silence. I will remember the sense of community that Canalside generated. I understand that we had to have a more "professional" facility but we now don't know it's status, at what level it takes our training facilities and what benefits it will provide the club. Seemed fair enough on paper - office space at the ground became available, so we need to build less office space. From the outside looking in that now seems to have turned into ditch the new building entirely, repurpose the crap existing one, build a gatehouse and relay some pitches. The kind of work you'd imagine might have happened at some point had we not been promoted. After wages this is probably the most important aspect of attracting players. It's the face of the club to them, a visual of our size and ambition (or lack of). And if it hasn't cost £20m where's the rest of that gone? Certainly not on the squad. It also raises the question of the ownership (assumed to be DH and rented back at a reasonable rent) and if so how that ownership aligns to the overall monies owed to DH. Before anyone jumps on me from the DH appreciation society (for the record I am not anti DH at all, what puzzles me is that everything that has gone on in the past 18 months is so very un-DH) or the positive police I think it is important to know. In the past we completely understood where we were, what the constraints of the club were, what the ambition was and how we had to work differently to be successful (I believe the phrase was "everyone had to be at it"). Canalside is a prime example of how murky things have become. My opinion, well documented on here, is that our failure to sit down and have cohesive plan of what the club could be after promotion to the Premier League is at the root of our troubles now. Where communication and information was once plentiful and clear it is now anything but. It feels as if no one wants to be big enough to stick their hands up and say "sorry, we made a pretty lousy job of setting a long term objective for the club". Personally if someone actually had a bit of integrity and was big enough to say this it would go a long way to getting people onside again. People aren't infallible, mistakes get made every day, there is no shame in admitting that. What we however currently have is silence as the fans can see us hurtling back to League 1. The problem of course is now if anyone did the honourable thing and admit the failings the fans would be very quick to ask two pertinent questions: 1 - What are you doing about it? 2 - Why is so much money being taken out of the club by those responsible for the failings? Surely better to steady the ship and reframe the financial recovery plan. If we don't address the issues in the squad and Carlos can't make a silk purse out of the sows ear that he's been left with what will people say then? What will anyone be able to say if we are kicking off a season in League 1 in 9 months? What will people say if, due to Covid, the club is in deep financial trouble? I appreciate that I have gone off topic of this thread here a bit but the situation at Canalside is very good example of how things have deteriorated at the club.
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Post by digs on Sept 21, 2020 11:38:23 GMT 1
I should imagine thousands never saw that free kick,how many goals did we score from it? We scored from it last season. The same free kick to grant who crossed low to the far post and Mounie scored. That was the old coaching staff
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Post by Mav on Sept 21, 2020 12:02:29 GMT 1
We should re introduce the sneaky ‘Brandon & Schofield’ corner routine when we all knew what was going on and had to keep quiet so as not go as alert the opposition.
Jolly good fun that was back in the day!!
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Post by dm on Sept 21, 2020 12:36:40 GMT 1
We should re introduce the sneaky ‘Brandon & Schofield’ corner routine when we all knew what was going on and had to keep quiet so as not go as alert the opposition. Jolly good fun that was back in the day!! We need to start beating the first man before we could start thinking about that
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Sept 21, 2020 12:53:29 GMT 1
no part of that wont happen butthe pitches over the canal have had a lot of money spent onthem and are superb as his the new pitch on the right hand side.plent of work gone on behind the main entrance inside opened up to offices etc and plent additions further back.not been cheap to do but realy is a first class facility . but some will moan as usuall. people will get the chance to make there own judgment. If you were promised scallops, prime cut of steak, all the trimmings, creme brulee then a whole night with Kelly Brook & Kirsty Gallagher & don't worry, it's all been planned & payed for... but you got quite a tasty corned beef sandwich, a Twix & a 70s jizz mag, wouldn't you feel a bit let down & disappointed? This was supposed to be our pride & joy, the legacy that no matter what happened on the pitch, we would have as our reward for being in the Premier League, to help attract the best players etc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 12:54:46 GMT 1
no part of that wont happen butthe pitches over the canal have had a lot of money spent onthem and are superb as his the new pitch on the right hand side.plent of work gone on behind the main entrance inside opened up to offices etc and plent additions further back.not been cheap to do but realy is a first class facility . but some will moan as usuall. people will get the chance to make there own judgment. So why haven't we done what we said we'd saved £20m for then oh wise one? im not wise just pointing out what has been done. they weregoing to build another tier but that wasnt needed as more space came available at the stadium. as for the rest. im sure it will be explained e mail devlin he always replys
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 12:57:33 GMT 1
no part of that wont happen butthe pitches over the canal have had a lot of money spent onthem and are superb as his the new pitch on the right hand side.plent of work gone on behind the main entrance inside opened up to offices etc and plent additions further back.not been cheap to do but realy is a first class facility . but some will moan as usuall. people will get the chance to make there own judgment. Who is using the offices? Haven't we made everybody redundant? really i dont think so there would be no club if that was the case lad. what a silly statement
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 13:00:15 GMT 1
no part of that wont happen butthe pitches over the canal have had a lot of money spent onthem and are superb as his the new pitch on the right hand side.plent of work gone on behind the main entrance inside opened up to offices etc and plent additions further back.not been cheap to do but realy is a first class facility . but some will moan as usuall. people will get the chance to make there own judgment. You can talk it up as much as you want positive but the fact remains they did not deliver what was supposed to be a brand new three, but then reduced to two tier main building. All well and good Devlin spouting they would be putting out a video, still to happen, wonder why seeing as they have bugger all to show. That was supposed to be something like the original video, but surprisingly NOT, nothing because they pulled the plug. i am not talking it up you muppet just saying it is first class ive seen it you havnt as for thhe video dont know
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 13:06:36 GMT 1
Seemed fair enough on paper - office space at the ground became available, so we need to build less office space. From the outside looking in that now seems to have turned into ditch the new building entirely, repurpose the crap existing one, build a gatehouse and relay some pitches. The kind of work you'd imagine might have happened at some point had we not been promoted. After wages this is probably the most important aspect of attracting players. It's the face of the club to them, a visual of our size and ambition (or lack of). And if it hasn't cost £20m where's the rest of that gone? Certainly not on the squad. It also raises the question of the ownership (assumed to be DH and rented back at a reasonable rent) and if so how that ownership aligns to the overall monies owed to DH. Before anyone jumps on me from the DH appreciation society (for the record I am not anti DH at all, what puzzles me is that everything that has gone on in the past 18 months is so very un-DH) or the positive police I think it is important to know. In the past we completely understood where we were, what the constraints of the club were, what the ambition was and how we had to work differently to be successful (I believe the phrase was "everyone had to be at it"). Canalside is a prime example of how murky things have become. My opinion, well documented on here, is that our failure to sit down and have cohesive plan of what the club could be after promotion to the Premier League is at the root of our troubles now. Where communication and information was once plentiful and clear it is now anything but. It feels as if no one wants to be big enough to stick their hands up and say "sorry, we made a pretty lousy job of setting a long term objective for the club". Personally if someone actually had a bit of integrity and was big enough to say this it would go a long way to getting people onside again. People aren't infallible, mistakes get made every day, there is no shame in admitting that. What we however currently have is silence as the fans can see us hurtling back to League 1. The problem of course is now if anyone did the honourable thing and admit the failings the fans would be very quick to ask two pertinent questions: 1 - What are you doing about it? 2 - Why is so much money being taken out of the club by those responsible for the failings? Surely better to steady the ship and reframe the financial recovery plan. If we don't address the issues in the squad and Carlos can't make a silk purse out of the sows ear that he's been left with what will people say then? What will anyone be able to say if we are kicking off a season in League 1 in 9 months? What will people say if, due to Covid, the club is in deep financial trouble? I appreciate that I have gone off topic of this thread here a bit but the situation at Canalside is very good example of how things have deteriorated at the club. dont know where the money as gone i am commenting on what has been spent and done and it is a first class facility .
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