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Post by softboy on Sept 3, 2020 19:24:37 GMT 1
So if we sell Grant for say £12m plus PH will get slated for selling our prize asset from last season, someone we can build a team around.
And if we don't sell Grant PH will get slated for keeping a player who does not want to be here and lacked commitment to the cause in a number of games towards the end of last season.
I see where this is going!
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Post by RickDangerous on Sept 3, 2020 19:25:57 GMT 1
His point is KG is underrated around here and be careful what you wish for. Our striking and wing options at the moment are an embarrassment, even if KG leaves. Mounie can't run and won't fit in to the new system Campbell can't score Diakhaby can't control a ball or go 5 minutes without looking like he's about to burst in to tears Mbenzas head isn't here Ward and Koroma are unknowns No one in this team looks capable of getting more than 5 goals a season apart from KG. Bacuna got 6 last season despite games at RB. Bacuna looks like he's winning Ballon d'Or one minute and he couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo for the next 5. If someone can get this lad firing at 75% he's our biggest sellable asset. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 3, 2020 21:50:54 GMT 1
Bacuna got 6 last season despite games at RB. Bacuna looks like he's winning Ballon d'Or one minute and he couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo for the next 5. If someone can get this lad firing at 75% he's our biggest sellable asset. He's potentially going to be the most erratic Town player many of us will see in our lifetime. That's neither an insult or a compliment really! He does some stuff pretty much every other player can only dream of, the next he's acting petulant or badly misjuding something. Certainly the player with the most upside...whether that will prove to be the case is another matter. |
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Post by boooothy on Sept 3, 2020 21:54:01 GMT 1
How accurate is that “football insider” on the internet?
They reckon WBA are coming back with a higher offer, Mounie is in talks with St Ettienne, Robbie Gotts is coming and Pipa is having a medical tomorrow 500k.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 22:01:25 GMT 1
How accurate is that “football insider” on the internet? They reckon WBA are coming back with a higher offer, Mounie is in talks with St Ettienne, Robbie Gotts is coming and Pipa is having a medical tomorrow 500k. heard it all before when they sign its accurate! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 22:15:40 GMT 1
Bacuna looks like he's winning Ballon d'Or one minute and he couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo for the next 5. If someone can get this lad firing at 75% he's our biggest sellable asset. He's potentially going to be the most erratic Town player many of us will see in our lifetime. That's neither an insult or a compliment really! He does some stuff pretty much every other player can only dream of, the next he's acting petulant or badly misjuding something. Certainly the player with the most upside...whether that will prove to be the case is another matter. He's very very watchable. Would much rather have him in the team than not, the moments of magic far outweigh the utter cock ups in terms of why we like watching football. And to be fair, some of his ridiculous stuff is pretty watchable too...his 40 yard own-goal was worth a round of applause! |
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Post by boooothy on Sept 3, 2020 22:39:56 GMT 1
I also like Bacuna but he started last season like someone who’d never kicked a ball. He gave the ball away every single time, it was embarrassing.
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Post by impact on Sept 3, 2020 23:27:18 GMT 1
You replied to mine which was originally aimed at the whole thread. Yes and it was about your post. You replied as if it was to someone else’s post.  ? I posted a comment aimed at no one in particular on the whole thread. You responded to me saying it was bollocks. And I said no, saying 16m is going straight to Dean's pockets is as was posted earlier in the thread and which was part of what I was posting about. You went off down your own route. Not my fault you missed the point. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2020 9:02:56 GMT 1
I also like Bacuna but he started last season like someone who’d never kicked a ball. He gave the ball away every single time, it was embarrassing. He is a player who can be as good as he wants to be, or as good as he can be disciplined to be. I hope this is what CC can bring. Bacuna showed his talent against MU last week then lost the ball with a lazy pass and had to chase back to try and rectify it. He looks a little too laid back a lot of the time and my hope is that CC and the coaches can drill into him how he needs to play consistently. If they manage that he will be a huge part of the team. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Sept 4, 2020 10:24:59 GMT 1
If you want to talk about who he sold the club to and the reasons why then I'm mainly in agreement. But I'd also say that in any deal that would have been a demand. But to say the £16m is going straight to Dean's back pocket is total bollocks. That doesn't add up with the numbers, no matter how many times Phil tries to over-exaggerate how much we had to repay to him. If Grant leaves for 16m then we'll have taken over £30m net from transfers in the 2 seasons. We initially owe Dean £35m, roughly the same amount. So then we also have parachute payment income, all 90m of it or whatever it is. Paying him back is not screwing us. Your putting words in my mouth never said the 16 million would go into DH a pocket. Think you will find it’s you that were quoting the it’s bollocks |
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Post by boooothy on Sept 4, 2020 11:06:28 GMT 1
From Mcdonald’s car park i can report Karlan Grant is not training.
Neither is Mounie but he was training on his own with Campbell earlier in the week who also isn’t there.
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Post by Melc on Sept 4, 2020 11:10:48 GMT 1
From Mcdonald’s car park i can report Karlan Grant is not training. Neither is Mounie but he was training on his own with Campbell earlier in the week who also isn’t there. Nickhudd will be jogging On the canal bank looking at anything going on, but not able to report in on here anymore.😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2020 11:16:54 GMT 1
I don’t know why some fans constantly want to undervalue our players. Wanting to get rid of Grant for £16m is doing ourselves a disservice when you start looking around at the price paid for other players. Take Maupay at Brighton, he was bought by Brentford for £2m and sold to Brighton 2 years later for £22.2m. He scored 10 in the PL last year from 37 appearances. Grant had 4 in 12 in a diabolical team. Grant is young and still has room to improve his game to another level. He’s worth every bit of £20m. Hope Town can get it. Ofcourse he is Craig. Town hav their fair share of negative fans and most of them are on this forum. Even when we were getting promoted they complained we didn’t score enough, we’ve got a negative goal difference. We’ll be smashed in the prem...Then when we stayed up it was “ooh we need loads of additions as we won’t get that lucky again.” Worst thing about football and following Town- the constant sniping, negativity from so called fans about the club, the squad, the chairman and leadership. I get it’s a forum but ffs things aren’t that bad. Where’s the optimism? Back in the 90’s if we didn’t have any we would make something up. |
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Post by dm on Sept 4, 2020 12:20:51 GMT 1
I don’t know why some fans constantly want to undervalue our players. Wanting to get rid of Grant for £16m is doing ourselves a disservice when you start looking around at the price paid for other players. Take Maupay at Brighton, he was bought by Brentford for £2m and sold to Brighton 2 years later for £22.2m. He scored 10 in the PL last year from 37 appearances. Grant had 4 in 12 in a diabolical team. Grant is young and still has room to improve his game to another level. He’s worth every bit of £20m. Hope Town can get it. It is true that some Town fans look to point out supposed flaws. 'Loads were penalties'... like teams don't like it when penalties are scored now or something (also he scored the majority of goals from open play). 'He did the same thing over and over'. Yeah he did and scored plenty of times from it in an appalling side. To balance the argument though, Maupay is only 1 year older than Grant and transferred a year ago when clubs were receiving income from ticket sales so were more flush with cash. Still not a reason to talk down a Town player. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 4, 2020 12:31:01 GMT 1
I don’t know why some fans constantly want to undervalue our players. Wanting to get rid of Grant for £16m is doing ourselves a disservice when you start looking around at the price paid for other players. Take Maupay at Brighton, he was bought by Brentford for £2m and sold to Brighton 2 years later for £22.2m. He scored 10 in the PL last year from 37 appearances. Grant had 4 in 12 in a diabolical team. Grant is young and still has room to improve his game to another level. He’s worth every bit of £20m. Hope Town can get it. It is true that some Town fans look to point out supposed flaws. 'Loads were penalties'... like teams don't like it when penalties are scored now or something (also he scored the majority of goals from open play). 'He did the same thing over and over'. Yeah he did and scored plenty of times from it in an appalling side. To balance the argument though, Maupay is only 1 year older than Grant and transferred a year ago when clubs were receiving income from ticket sales so were more flush with cash. Still not a reason to talk down a Town player. 100% and Maupay was not turning down penalties 😉 |
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Post by boooothy on Sept 8, 2020 20:51:33 GMT 1
Grant’s latest Twitter effort reads like he’s desperate for the WBA deal to get done. To be fair to him (nothing against Town) anyone would.
Massive opportunity to play games in the Premier League.
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Post by runner76 on Sept 8, 2020 21:07:08 GMT 1
Grant’s latest Twitter effort reads like he’s desperate for the WBA deal to get done. To be fair to him (nothing against Town) anyone would. Massive opportunity to play games in the Premier League. Saying to trust the process? Sounds more cryptic than desperate.....! |
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Post by tvor on Sept 8, 2020 21:23:05 GMT 1
Good luck and goodbye to one of best and most creative player songs. He’s electric ... no FMR here .... at least West Brom fans can’t nick it!!!
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Post by boooothy on Sept 8, 2020 21:27:04 GMT 1
Good luck and goodbye to one of best and most creative player songs. He’s electric ... no FMR here .... at least West Brom fans can’t nick it!!! The sound effects guy at the stadium is going to have to find new crowd noice. It was just Karlan Grant on repeat for 90 minutes. |
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Post by specialun on Sept 8, 2020 21:45:02 GMT 1
Answer: Mounie 7, Grant 4
Question: Goals from open play since 21 December
Grant will have a good career, faded badly imo post November. All round game still not premier league class. I’d take £16m & add ons
But need to give a third of that to Carlos!
I get the not very likeable / didn’t take to him point
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Post by alexdire on Sept 8, 2020 22:07:43 GMT 1
Answer: Mounie 7, Grant 4 Question: Goals from open play since 21 December Grant will have a good career, faded badly imo post November. All round game still not premier league class. I’d take £16m & add ons But need to give a third of that to Carlos! I get the not very likeable / didn’t take to him point I agree I don't think his all round game is good enough, especially his first touch. £16 m comes in handy but it looks as though we'll be starting the season without a recognised striker. |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 8, 2020 22:27:12 GMT 1
To think, for another £5m they could've got James Rodriguez 😉😁
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Post by Mecha Corte on Sept 9, 2020 7:47:04 GMT 1
Craig Maskell, scored for fun but never anywhere near as popular with Town fans as Duncan Shearer and Iwan Roberts, likewise Andy Payton, some players are popular others simply are not.
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Post by Champers on Sept 9, 2020 8:02:35 GMT 1
Nahki Wells was another striker who never tried to hide the fact he saw us as a stepping stone, the difference being Nahki never stopped giving 100% for us until the day he left.
Grateful for the goals that Grant has scored and their significance, but I don't really give a shit what happens to him when he leaves. Not my kind of footballer at all.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Sept 9, 2020 9:11:53 GMT 1
For all the good things he did, it will be the games after the restart that i remember him for, the selfish prick showed a lack of integrity. He would have quite happily seen town go down to force a move. ( IMO )
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Post by boooothy on Sept 9, 2020 10:12:16 GMT 1
For all the good things he did, it will be the games after the restart that i remember him for, the selfish prick showed a lack of integrity. He would have quite happily seen town go down to force a move. ( IMO ) Did he really? Or did he just have a bad spell and defenders work out his trick. |
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Post by alexdire on Sept 9, 2020 11:06:45 GMT 1
For all the good things he did, it will be the games after the restart that i remember him for, the selfish prick showed a lack of integrity. He would have quite happily seen town go down to force a move. ( IMO ) Did he really? Or did he just have a bad spell and defenders work out his trick. It also coincided with Tofolo's arrival. Whenever Tofolo went forward, instead of being in the box. Grant was routinely behind him providing cover. That wasn't either Tofolo's or Grant's fault, it was how they were setup and the safety first attitude to get us clear of relegation. Grant did a lot more chasing back and played a lot deeper in the second half of the season. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Sept 9, 2020 11:09:52 GMT 1
Nahki Wells was another striker who never tried to hide the fact he saw us as a stepping stone, the difference being Nahki never stopped giving 100% for us until the day he left. Grateful for the goals that Grant has scored and their significance, but I don't really give a shit what happens to him when he leaves. Not my kind of footballer at all. Unfortunately for Nahki he's still stuck in the middle of the river! |
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Post by impact on Sept 9, 2020 11:46:20 GMT 1
Watkins has gone for an initial £28m. Does anyone really think Grant isn't worth at least £16m?
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Post by dewsburyborn on Sept 9, 2020 11:52:45 GMT 1
Nahki Wells was another striker who never tried to hide the fact he saw us as a stepping stone, the difference being Nahki never stopped giving 100% for us until the day he left. Grateful for the goals that Grant has scored and their significance, but I don't really give a shit what happens to him when he leaves. Not my kind of footballer at all. Unfortunately for Nahki he's still stuck in the middle of the river! but probably set himself for life financially |
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? I posted a comment aimed at no one in particular on the whole thread. You responded to me saying it was bollocks. And I said no, saying 16m is going straight to Dean's pockets is as was posted earlier in the thread and which was part of what I was posting about. 
