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Post by space hardware on Nov 3, 2020 22:13:03 GMT 1
The squad is far too thin for this schedule, no surprise we run out of gas so regularly.
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Post by buckers on Nov 3, 2020 22:13:44 GMT 1
So it’s not bullshit because he wasn’t on the bench was he? Spose not, I interpreted it as you felt we had no one in the squad. No I meant tonight, maybe I should have been clearer.
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Post by northnottsblue on Nov 3, 2020 22:14:37 GMT 1
I think it’s fare to say 4 or 5 had off days, we looked out on our feet at the end couldn’t even pass 5 yards and find a man, need to rest for Saturday and hopefully get some energy back in the legs. In hindsight, It looks like their game plan first half was to conserve energy and hope we ran out of ours. Probably a case this season that the short pre season etc and change in styles mean we will occasionally get done like this through tiredness leading to poor mistakes but evidence to show we shoukdnt be in too much trouble through the season over all. Excellent summary of where we’re at.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Nov 3, 2020 22:14:42 GMT 1
Need to bring in a few quality players in January which could make a massive difference .
There are usually enough ex premier league players in the team and surely pay back time at this lower level
Just wondering if Bristol rotated their squad from Saturday as they looked a lot fitter
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Post by Boothys Knees on Nov 3, 2020 22:15:37 GMT 1
Another shambles like the Preston game, sloppy defending again. The difference in the quality of the squads was embarrassing.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 3, 2020 22:16:33 GMT 1
We're improving but tonight, overall, was poor aside from the goal, which was the only bit of quality we produced. Too many sloppy passes, too many sideways and backwards passes, too many passes, not enough crosses in to the box, not passing quick enough, midfield poor, created sod all and criminal defending for the winner.
O'Brien was poor, Hogg looks like an accident waiting to happen, Sarr does not look comfortable either, giving away stupid free kicks.
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Post by galphamer74 on Nov 3, 2020 22:16:45 GMT 1
They simply had a bit more quality in the end. They'll flatter to deceive and finish 8th or 9th again which is poor with their budget. We have a really, really good coach, unfortunately he's being asked to perform miracles. At a crucial time in the game they could gamble with real quality and we couldn't. We are close to be a very decent side if the powers that be can't see that and push the boat out to support him it's criminal.
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Post by Camel Grabber on Nov 3, 2020 22:17:00 GMT 1
Didn't know PH played tonight? Has he fuck cost us. Sloppy defending has cost us Csn you read? Yes I can. Can you spell?
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Post by Terriersmad on Nov 3, 2020 22:17:33 GMT 1
Yes I can. Can you spell? Fuck right off you supercilious c***.
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Post by Camel Grabber on Nov 3, 2020 22:18:41 GMT 1
Didn't know PH played tonight? Has he fuck cost us. Sloppy defending has cost us Yes the fook he has cost us in the long term and his mate DH to some extent but he's God so we can excuse him , get your head out of the sand My head is out of the sand. More than yours by the sounds of it. I'm glad that PH is making sure we have a club to support in years to come. Half of you lot would run it into the ground
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Post by ACW on Nov 3, 2020 22:19:24 GMT 1
One worrying aspect about the last two home games is that when the opposition have scored one, they've quickly scored another. It was disappointing to concede the equaliser, but at that point we still had a well-earned point. To collapse so quickly in two successive home games is really disappointing. A point wouldn't have been a disaster had we been able to hold out. Hamer was hardly having to make save after save despite Bristol putting us under a certain amount of pressure.
Such a shame when we were comfortably the better team for 60 minutes or so.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Nov 3, 2020 22:20:38 GMT 1
Poor second half, crap defending for the goals & apart from Hogg our midfield was non-existent. O'Brien was slow on the ball and his passing was crap. I haven't seen anything of Eiting to think, he'll ever get anywhere near the Ajax team. Rather than picking him, we ought to be developing the likes of Daly, Austerfield & Jackson.
He may split opinion, but we miss Bacuna and his ability to create something out of nothing.
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Post by ACW on Nov 3, 2020 22:21:06 GMT 1
We're improving but tonight, overall, was poor aside from the goal, which was the only bit of quality we produced. Too many sloppy passes, too many sideways and backwards passes, too many passes, not enough crosses in to the box, not passing quick enough, midfield poor, created sod all and criminal defending for the winner. O'Brien was poor, Hogg looks like an accident waiting to happen, Sarr does not look comfortable either, giving away stupid free kicks. I thought Hoggy played pretty well tonight. Agree that O'Brien was poor - his passing was off. And Sarr can be infuriating in possession. Needs to concentrate on passing the ball simply and quickly.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Nov 3, 2020 22:22:50 GMT 1
Poor second half, crap defending for the goals & apart from Hogg our midfield was non-existent. O'Brien was slow on the ball and his passing was crap. I haven't seen anything of Eiting to think, he'll ever get anywhere near the Ajax team. Rather than picking him, we ought to be developing the likes of Daly, Austerfield & Jackson. He may split opinion, but we miss Bacuna and his ability to create something out of nothing. We certainly missed the spark he could have brought off the bench. Agree re Eiting - but I think key tonight was us not having the depth on our bench that Bristol had.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Nov 3, 2020 22:26:07 GMT 1
We're improving but tonight, overall, was poor aside from the goal, which was the only bit of quality we produced. Too many sloppy passes, too many sideways and backwards passes, too many passes, not enough crosses in to the box, not passing quick enough, midfield poor, created sod all and criminal defending for the winner. O'Brien was poor, Hogg looks like an accident waiting to happen, Sarr does not look comfortable either, giving away stupid free kicks. I thought Hoggy played pretty well tonight. Agree that O'Brien was poor - his passing was off. And Sarr can be infuriating in possession. Needs to concentrate on passing the ball simply and quickly. I think his options were limited by City's press and defending. They pressed very high up, which allowed us to break and score, but we still have no real outlet down the middle, so it almost always goes out wide. Having said that I thought Hogg played well in the centre but we just struggle to find space. City did it much more effectively.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Nov 3, 2020 22:26:29 GMT 1
So frustrating, we're nearly a good team & you have to give credit to Carlos for improving so many players in such a short time.
Unfortunately, the more we sat back, the more likely another Preston was.
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Post by upthetown on Nov 3, 2020 22:27:35 GMT 1
Well I enjoyed the match despite the result. Good close game first half. A few chances to go 2-0 and kill the game. Their subs changed the game in the end. It did look a handball in the build up for their first, but a frustrating result.
Overall feeling positive despite the squad weaknesses. From memory we’ve been well in most games this season.
Totally dominated Rotherham and Birmingham - could have had 5 more points there.
But for the elbow on Stearman on for a point vs Norwich.
Leading against both Preston and Bristol.
Really not far off at all - hoping Ward can make a big impression. Missed Bacuna/Pritchard options from the bench tonight too
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Post by waggers on Nov 3, 2020 22:27:38 GMT 1
Another shambles like the Preston game, sloppy defending again. The difference in the quality of the squads was embarrassing. I don't think it's as drastic as you're wording it. Our squad isn't big enough I agree and the Championship fixture list is tiring us out, but I don't think words like embarrassing are warranted. I want a few players in too so we don't get caught out like tonight, surely the chairman sees this and will do some business in this window. We won't go down this year the manager is too good to let that happen.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 3, 2020 22:30:21 GMT 1
We're improving but tonight, overall, was poor aside from the goal, which was the only bit of quality we produced. Too many sloppy passes, too many sideways and backwards passes, too many passes, not enough crosses in to the box, not passing quick enough, midfield poor, created sod all and criminal defending for the winner. O'Brien was poor, Hogg looks like an accident waiting to happen, Sarr does not look comfortable either, giving away stupid free kicks. I thought Hoggy played pretty well tonight. Agree that O'Brien was poor - his passing was off. And Sarr can be infuriating in possession. Needs to concentrate on passing the ball simply and quickly. He was the better of the two midfielders but I just tense up when he gets the ball near the opposition as if they are about to relieve him of the ball.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Nov 3, 2020 22:31:26 GMT 1
Well I enjoyed the match despite the result. Good close game first half. A few chances to go 2-0 and kill the game. Their subs changed the game in the end. It did look a handball in the build up for their first, but a frustrating result. Overall feeling positive despite the squad weaknesses. From memory we’ve been well in most games this season. Totally dominated Rotherham and Birmingham - could have had 5 more points there. But for the elbow on Stearman on for a point vs Norwich. Leading against both Preston and Bristol. Really not far off at all - hoping Ward can make a big impression. Missed Bacuna/Pritchard options from the bench tonight too Totally agree. Its fine margins both in defeat and victory. The system and tactics are fine. The issue is the lack of squad depth. Hopefully we have Bacuna back for Saturday and Ward, Vallejo and Pritchard back after the break. We are doing fine.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Nov 3, 2020 22:32:30 GMT 1
Anyone know who these 5 strikers are that PH said we had?
As far as I can see we've not had more than 1 striker in any matchday squad this season.
Fucking ridiculous to expect our new head coach to bring exciting, attacking football & not back him with what he needs.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Nov 3, 2020 22:33:11 GMT 1
Well I enjoyed the match despite the result. Good close game first half. A few chances to go 2-0 and kill the game. Their subs changed the game in the end. It did look a handball in the build up for their first, but a frustrating result. Overall feeling positive despite the squad weaknesses. From memory we’ve been well in most games this season. Totally dominated Rotherham and Birmingham - could have had 5 more points there. But for the elbow on Stearman on for a point vs Norwich. Leading against both Preston and Bristol. Really not far off at all - hoping Ward can make a big impression. Missed Bacuna/Pritchard options from the bench tonight too Totally agree. Its fine margins both in defeat and victory. The system and tactics are fine. The issue is the lack of squad depth. Hopefully we have Bacuna back for Saturday and Ward, Vallejo and Pritchard back after the break. We are doing fine. Just said Pritch is out 3-4 weeks.
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Post by CCBarmyArmy on Nov 3, 2020 22:34:26 GMT 1
How many goals has stearman cost us. He's way past his best now. Hopefully vallejo can play there
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Post by positive plus + pompous on Nov 3, 2020 22:41:17 GMT 1
They brought on a bit of quality off the bench and it won them the game. We have fucking no one on our bench to change a game and it’s so frustrating. Supposed to have an academy of kids breaking through, in all reality the ones on the bench are more just filling spaces and are rarely used for any period of time.
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Post by jakeg on Nov 3, 2020 22:41:19 GMT 1
Well I enjoyed the match despite the result. Good close game first half. A few chances to go 2-0 and kill the game. Their subs changed the game in the end. It did look a handball in the build up for their first, but a frustrating result. Overall feeling positive despite the squad weaknesses. From memory we’ve been well in most games this season. Totally dominated Rotherham and Birmingham - could have had 5 more points there. But for the elbow on Stearman on for a point vs Norwich. Leading against both Preston and Bristol. Really not far off at all - hoping Ward can make a big impression. Missed Bacuna/Pritchard options from the bench tonight too Totally agree. Its fine margins both in defeat and victory. The system and tactics are fine. The issue is the lack of squad depth. Hopefully we have Bacuna back for Saturday and Ward, Vallejo and Pritchard back after the break. We are doing fine. Completely agree. Never like losing and frustrated with the second half but I can see what we are trying to achieve and the way we want to play. There is a masterplan that appeared lacking last season. I think we might have to get used to a step forward then a step back this season as we embed the philosophy and coberan has the chance to get more strength in the squad. We look to be that middle section of teams that should be too good to get dragged backwards but never consistent enough challenge. I'm content. We mustn't waste the opportunity though to build something good here with a progressive and promising coach
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Post by Big Ern on Nov 3, 2020 22:45:41 GMT 1
The saddest thing is that you can see what Corberan is trying and able to achieve but he just doesn't have the squad to do it.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Nov 3, 2020 22:51:42 GMT 1
Totally agree. Its fine margins both in defeat and victory. The system and tactics are fine. The issue is the lack of squad depth. Hopefully we have Bacuna back for Saturday and Ward, Vallejo and Pritchard back after the break. We are doing fine. Completely agree. Never like losing and frustrated with the second half but I can see what we are trying to achieve and the way we want to play. There is a masterplan that appeared lacking last season. I think we might have to get used to a step forward then a step back this season as we embed the philosophy and coberan has the chance to get more strength in the squad. We look to be that middle section of teams that should be too good to get dragged backwards but never consistent enough challenge. I'm content. We mustn't waste the opportunity though to build something good here with a progressive and promising coach I agree but Devlin said there'd be no point in getting Carlos & then not backing him... if Carlos is as frustrated as most of us at the lack of backing, he may well move on because other clubs will see how well he has done with us & start sniffing around.
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Post by Moooooy on Nov 3, 2020 22:52:10 GMT 1
We were the better team and looked comfortable for 60 minutes, but after they made their subs the game completely changed. We looked leggy in the last 30 minutes, highlighting the lack of a decent squad even further. Bristol had good attacking options on the bench, we didn’t and that was what won the game in the end.
We’re a much better side this season purely down to how Carlos has us playing, I’m really impressed so far. It’s starting to remind me of when Wagner took over, you can see massive improvements across the pitch but we don’t have enough good players to make it work consistently. Hopefully we can recruit well in the next 12 months and by the time we’re allowed to watch them again we’ll be able to have a crack at the top 6.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Nov 3, 2020 22:53:49 GMT 1
How many goals has stearman cost us. He's way past his best now. Hopefully vallejo can play there He cost us a goal against Norwich but apart from that he's been our best defender this season. He played his part in our crap defending tonight but you can't just single him out. Mbenza stood and watched his man put the first goal in and any one of half a dozen could have cleared the second.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Nov 3, 2020 22:59:36 GMT 1
Really frustrating. We’re clearly on the right track though. Hopefully we’ll have more players available after the break, we just don’t have the squad to rotate.
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