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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 3, 2020 23:00:24 GMT 1
I said a few months back that Stearmans legs had gone...he always fades badly. Toffolo said this week they were all super-fit. I think it was more a case of stopping doing what we had been doing and trying to sit back....always a recipe for disaster. The clock is decided by the manager...not the players.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Nov 3, 2020 23:01:59 GMT 1
1. Referee has cost us there. Goals change games. That first goal is unforgivably bad refereeing. He controls it with his arm, which lets him get the ball in. It's not even a no-brainer. You'd have to be some kind of mole to miss it. So how the linesman and the referee miss it, I don't know. Until then, they'd been completely shut out. 2. Hodgkinson has also cost us there. No options, no depth, no variety. We can't rotate at a time when we're playing Saturday-Tuesday every single week. They're knackered with this style of football. We need more players. Simple as that. We need to be able to bring players in and out regularly when we're playing with such intensity. Bristol City had depth on the bench. We didn't. 3. That's three points dropped. Didn't know PH played tonight? Has he fuck cost us. Sloppy defending has cost us Depth of squad played a major factor tonight and let’s face it as transfer windows go PH does play the biggest factor in that like it or not the manager is working miracles but needs backing or we will lose more than we win, squad depth no where near strong enough for this division.
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Post by sabailand on Nov 3, 2020 23:04:38 GMT 1
Disappointing undoubtedly, but to be fair Bristol city put us on the back foot and for me deserved at least a point, a point would have been ok by me but we got nothing, we`re inconsistent so we`ll win on saturday.
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Nov 3, 2020 23:12:12 GMT 1
PH has got to back the manager in the next window or else he'll be off to a bigger, more ambitious club in the Summer, where he will be backed
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Post by Mav on Nov 3, 2020 23:14:46 GMT 1
Let’s pretend we lost 2-1 at Millwall on Saturday and won 3-0 tonight, we can then enjoy the rest of the week.
NB .... We’re doing OK, don’t be too down.
Cheers.
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Post by leedsroadrob on Nov 3, 2020 23:35:18 GMT 1
Oo to be a! Onwards and upwards - on another night their first goal wouldn't have stood and Bacuna would have scored from the bench.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Nov 3, 2020 23:54:21 GMT 1
Disappointing undoubtedly, but to be fair Bristol city put us on the back foot and for me deserved at least a point, a point would have been ok by me but we go nothing, we`re inconsistent so we`ll win on saturday. Yes, Bristol pressed us all game and you can’t say that they didn’t deserve something from the game. The biggest difference for sure is that they have a more experienced Championship squad than us with game changers on the bench.
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Post by tockyterrier on Nov 3, 2020 23:59:28 GMT 1
Completely agree. Never like losing and frustrated with the second half but I can see what we are trying to achieve and the way we want to play. There is a masterplan that appeared lacking last season. I think we might have to get used to a step forward then a step back this season as we embed the philosophy and coberan has the chance to get more strength in the squad. We look to be that middle section of teams that should be too good to get dragged backwards but never consistent enough challenge. I'm content. We mustn't waste the opportunity though to build something good here with a progressive and promising coach I agree but Devlin said there'd be no point in getting Carlos & then not backing him... if Carlos is as frustrated as most of us at the lack of backing, he may well move on because other clubs will see how well he has done with us & start sniffing around. He also said Carlos looked at the players available and said he would rather work with what he had. Sounds very similar to Bielsa at Leeds. While also having similar results at the start of his time there.
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Post by Camel Grabber on Nov 4, 2020 0:01:36 GMT 1
Yes I can. Can you spell? Fuck right off you supercilious c***. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Post by boooothy on Nov 4, 2020 0:14:24 GMT 1
There’s no mystery to these inconsistent results. We’re just not very good, better than i thought we’d be but a below average team for this division.
I’m confident we’ll get enough points to stay up.
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Post by ColchTerrier on Nov 4, 2020 0:52:57 GMT 1
There’s no mystery to these inconsistent results. We’re just not very good, better than i thought we’d be but a below average team for this division. I’m confident we’ll get enough points to stay up. Eh? Course we will ffs! We can safely say we’ll be nowhere near the drop zone so let’s just enjoy that for now! I’d be happy with a mid table/top half finish and who knows what we can do next season with Carlos in charge if we can back him! Relegation should not be on our minds now, there’s no chance. Very happy I can say that because I wasn’t last season.
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Post by willo on Nov 4, 2020 2:47:55 GMT 1
There’s no mystery to these inconsistent results. We’re just not very good, better than i thought we’d be but a below average team for this division. I’m confident we’ll get enough points to stay up. Eh? Course we will ffs! We can safely say we’ll be nowhere near the drop zone so let’s just enjoy that for now! I’d be happy with a mid table/top half finish and who knows what we can do next season with Carlos in charge if we can back him! Relegation should not be on our minds now, there’s no chance. Very happy I can say that because I wasn’t last season. I wouldn’t say CC has been backed so far and don’t think this will change anytime soon. He’s clearly been asked to get more out of the players already on the books but there is a limit to what he can do. Said at the start we won’t be relegated, still sticking to my prediction of a just below halfway finish. Satisfactory if unspectacular.
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Post by BlueValour on Nov 4, 2020 3:21:32 GMT 1
Worst fucking thing about that is i had to listen to it with bustard Bristol commentary Why?
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Post by lochnessterrier on Nov 4, 2020 8:44:31 GMT 1
Failing to sign Jamie Paterson when we had the chance was a big mistake and it keeps coming back to bite us on the arse.
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Post by bogart on Nov 4, 2020 8:45:20 GMT 1
Put volume to minimum that would have worked!
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Post by royrace on Nov 4, 2020 8:51:11 GMT 1
PH has got to back the manager in the next window or else he'll be off to a bigger, more ambitious club in the Summer, where he will be backed That's the worry for me, if he does brilliantly with this squad but isn't backed he'll be off and who could blame him. Then what? Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Nov 4, 2020 9:01:45 GMT 1
If Bucana, Pritchard & Ward were available I'm convinced we would have got something out of the game. Its watchable again & Pipa... Class
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Post by mids on Nov 4, 2020 9:11:10 GMT 1
If Bucana, Pritchard & Ward were available I'm convinced we would have got something out of the game. Its watchable again & Pipa... Class If Vallejo is half as good as Pipa we're laughing...Pipa is quality, in many positions
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Nov 4, 2020 9:18:08 GMT 1
Failing to sign Jamie Paterson when we had the chance was a big mistake and it keeps coming back to bite us on the arse. Thanks for making me smile.
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Post by Camel Grabber on Nov 4, 2020 9:25:51 GMT 1
Could get a decent team put with players we have let go currently in championship
Smithies
Hunt Morrison Wallace malone
Kachunga clayton Paterson lolley
Wells Rhodes
But move on.
Get over it.
This current crop aren't doing too bad considering the doom and gloom 6 weeks ago.
Yes the inconsistency is frustrating, but at least we wont be battling for survival. We will have some fantastic wins eg. Swansea and millwall and some annoying losses eg. Preston and bristol.
But at least this is a lot better than the last 2 seasons.
Wont all happen at once but with CC at the helm, it's looking great
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Post by galpharm2400 on Nov 4, 2020 10:44:14 GMT 1
We forgot to try and win the game at 1 0 up, again?
They subbed and changed, we didn't.
Very frustrating going from very comfortable to being a bit of a mess so quickly.
The negative leading to the mess is still there occasionally and work is still very much needed to stop it.
Did not play our way for long enough.
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Post by bierleyterrier on Nov 4, 2020 11:11:50 GMT 1
We've got accept that this season will be a rollercoaster. We're capable of playing some really good football, we seem better at holding the ball, BUT we are so weak defensively. How we never cleared the ball for Bristol's 2nd goal I'll never know. Think we're on the right track with Carlos, but we need key players to stay fit (O'Brien, Hogg, Toffalo). Any ideas of a top 10 finish are over-ambitious and we should expect and be happy with a mid table finish this season.
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Post by impact on Nov 4, 2020 11:16:22 GMT 1
I would drop Stearman. He was awful for the 1st goal and not good for the 2nd. That's not to say it was all his fault but by defending half decently he could have stopped both.
He played a terrible pass last home game then compounded it by dropping back out of position leaving Schindler with a 2 on 1, another basic error.
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Post by impact on Nov 4, 2020 11:20:33 GMT 1
I agree but Devlin said there'd be no point in getting Carlos & then not backing him... if Carlos is as frustrated as most of us at the lack of backing, he may well move on because other clubs will see how well he has done with us & start sniffing around. He also said Carlos looked at the players available and said he would rather work with what he had. Sounds very similar to Bielsa at Leeds. While also having similar results at the start of his time there. One of the first things Bielsa did was spend £7m on a striker.
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Post by evidentlychickentown on Nov 4, 2020 11:38:35 GMT 1
Worst fucking thing about that is i had to listen to it with bustard Bristol commentary Why? Probably watching on IPTV ? You don’t get an option on commentary - and unfortunately it’s nearly always the opposition commentators for some unknown reason. For those struggling with dodgy streams this is a reliable option, and no, I’m not on commission
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Post by ram on Nov 4, 2020 11:55:11 GMT 1
Failing to sign Jamie Paterson when we had the chance was a big mistake and it keeps coming back to bite us on the arse. Thanks for making me smile. Not wrong though is he. If Paterson had been on our bench he wouldn't have scored for them last night.
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Post by lochnessterrier on Nov 4, 2020 12:07:21 GMT 1
Thanks for making me smile. Not wrong though is he. If Paterson had been on our bench he wouldn't have scored for them last night. Never mind, at least we got Pritchard for 10 times the price.
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Post by ram on Nov 4, 2020 12:11:28 GMT 1
Not saying we should have signed Paterson mate,just saying what would have happened if he wasn't playing for BC
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 4, 2020 13:06:29 GMT 1
PH has got to back the manager in the next window or else he'll be off to a bigger, more ambitious club in the Summer, where he will be backed That's the worry for me, if he does brilliantly with this squad but isn't backed he'll be off and who could blame him. Then what? Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards He will be backed but wanted time to assess what he'd got
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Post by royrace on Nov 4, 2020 13:45:44 GMT 1
That's the worry for me, if he does brilliantly with this squad but isn't backed he'll be off and who could blame him. Then what? Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards He will be backed but wanted time to assess what he'd got I hope that's the case but it's a bold move. You don't normally get the luxury of time and it's not hard to assess the gaping holes in the squad. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards
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