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Post by royrace on Nov 4, 2020 13:51:35 GMT 1
Thanks for making me smile. Not wrong though is he. If Paterson had been on our bench he wouldn't have scored for them last night. See what you did there I seem to remember we couldn't afford him at the time, he was on decent money after his forest move. Seems we're very quickly back in that same situation of not being able to compete with the likes of Bristol City. I'm not saying we should sign him just it's a shame to be back among the leagues paupers. I'm not buying the pile of cash bs from Phil until I see some intent in the transfer market. Seems to me it's all going to be spent on running the club going forward based on the fact we don't have an owner able to subsidise the way that Dean did. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards
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Post by terriersyndrome on Nov 4, 2020 13:57:41 GMT 1
Not wrong though is he. If Paterson had been on our bench he wouldn't have scored for them last night. See what you did there I seem to remember we couldn't afford him at the time, he was on decent money after his forest move. Seems we're very quickly back in that same situation of not being able to compete with the likes of Bristol City. I'm not saying we should sign him just it's a shame to be back among the leagues paupers. I'm not buying the pile of cash bs from Phil until I see some intent in the transfer market. Seems to me it's all going to be spent on running the club going forward based on the fact we don't have an owner able to subsidise the way that Dean did. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards I remember it slightly differently. Wagner wanted him but wanted his squad completed early but with the Forest ownership up in the air at the time they had nobody to strike a deal with at the time so we moved on to other targets. That's pretty much what DH said happened anyway.
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Post by captainblack on Nov 4, 2020 14:30:32 GMT 1
That's the worry for me, if he does brilliantly with this squad but isn't backed he'll be off and who could blame him. Then what? Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards He will be backed but wanted time to assess what he'd got I seriously hope you are correct, It seems to me we have appointed a very good manager, but our squad is looking a little thin, perhaps you are right and he needed time to assess the squad properly, and said he could manage with the squad he inherited before rebuilding the team. What worries me , is that there will not be any real backing in January or the summer and he will be tempted to leave for one of our rivals who are prepared to spend on their squad . I am just speculating of course , but we have been in similar situations before , and I really have high expectations for CC, if we decide to back this guy to the hilt.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Nov 4, 2020 17:46:59 GMT 1
He will be backed but wanted time to assess what he'd got I seriously hope you are correct, It seems to me we have appointed a very good manager, but our squad is looking a little thin, perhaps you are right and he needed time to assess the squad properly, and said he could manage with the squad he inherited before rebuilding the team. What worries me , is that there will not be any real backing in January or the summer and he will be tempted to leave for one of our rivals who are prepared to spend on their squad . I am just speculating of course , but we have been in similar situations before , and I really have high expectations for CC, if we decide to back this guy to the hilt. WE have 14 senior players out of contract in the summer as things stand so a lot of room for natural change. By then CC will have had time to bring on some of the youngsters, some of whom are on a season long loan. I am not saying that is all we need but the coaching staff should know by then how many of the loaned out players and the B team are worth promoting. We still need to add a couple in Jan if we can find the right ones but blocking the development of younger players will be a consideration I think.
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Post by htfc63 on Nov 4, 2020 18:49:42 GMT 1
We need to reshape our defence and it would not surprise me if Schindler, Stearman and Elphick were on their way in the summer. Add Mbenza, Diakaharby, Pritchard, Hamer, Campbell etc and we will free up squad positions and more importantly substantial wages. In the meantime the youngsters need to be given time as centre halves as at least they will have the legs to see games out alongside Sarr. Fingers crossed we may if we are lucky get rid of some of these in the January window however most will hang on as there’s no way they will earn the same money or even close to it going elsewhere. I trust Carlos to continue to develop the youngsters and get some good games out of the afore mentioned and hopefully keep us up and then do a good rebuild during the summer.
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Post by leedsroadrob on Nov 4, 2020 18:59:57 GMT 1
Diakaharby is one hell of a player, as is his cousin Diakavardy.
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Post by pharaohx on Nov 4, 2020 20:45:43 GMT 1
How many goals has stearman cost us. He's way past his best now. Hopefully vallejo can play there He cost us a goal against Norwich but apart from that he's been our best defender this season. He played his part in our crap defending tonight but you can't just single him out. Mbenza stood and watched his man put the first goal in and any one of half a dozen could have cleared the second. Stearman''s has been one of our better players IMO. He's made many crucial interventions and been pretty strong both on the ground and in the air. Not the greatest at bringing the ball out but has made a decent stab at it, including one or two interesting buccaneering runs. Quite vocal too. Can't see why he should be singled out for criticism.
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Post by specialun on Nov 4, 2020 23:20:02 GMT 1
Carlos was slow to react yesterday - Subs until this point have been used well
I have sympathy with lack of options on bench but we seemed confused with their subs / shape and didn’t look like we knew who was picking up who so just sat deeper and gave up on our game plan
We were getting deeper and giving away stupid fouls again (Sarr top of stupid fouls list again, followed by Campbell) and had rode our luck until the first goal - which had been coming ever since their double sub
Our changes made us even deeper - we turned 343 into 5311
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Nov 5, 2020 8:59:51 GMT 1
Could get a decent team put with players we have let go currently in championship Smithies Hunt Morrison Wallace malone Kachunga clayton Paterson lolley Wells Rhodes But move on. Get over it. This current crop aren't doing too bad considering the doom and gloom 6 weeks ago. Yes the inconsistency is frustrating, but at least we wont be battling for survival. We will have some fantastic wins eg. Swansea and millwall and some annoying losses eg. Preston and bristol. But at least this is a lot better than the last 2 seasons. Wont all happen at once but with CC at the helm, it's looking great Of those I’d say only Wallace and Lolley we let go. The rest were either sold for good money or would’ve been too expensive to buy/keep.
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Post by kennyk2 on Nov 5, 2020 10:39:38 GMT 1
After a shaky start, this season is now reminding me of when DW took over. The team couldn't quite get the coach's philosophy right on the pitch and we lost a few games because of it. However, the fans were excited by the way the team was playing. I'm excited the way CC has changed things around in a relatively short period of time. It's going to take a while, but with backing from PH in the January transfer window (!) we could be making a pitch for the play offs.
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Post by otterman on Nov 5, 2020 10:50:06 GMT 1
I like how CC has got the team playing, but I don’t like how we are losing games, which CC can do little to remedy with this squad. Survival in this division is the most realistic objective in the current season. Only PH can do something about the deficiencies in the squad. It’s decision time in January. Any spend and targeted incomings should already be in process, in my opinion. Another wasted window could see the inconsistencies grabbing hold of a currently motivated squad and CC will be off like a shot.
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Post by ram on Nov 5, 2020 11:17:49 GMT 1
I wouldn't be surprised to see Derby {If the takeover gets completed} sack their bloke and try to poach CC.He needs to be backed fully in January.
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Post by richhtfc on Nov 5, 2020 11:26:53 GMT 1
Could get a decent team put with players we have let go currently in championship Smithies Hunt Morrison Wallace malone Kachunga clayton Paterson lolley Wells Rhodes But move on. Get over it. This current crop aren't doing too bad considering the doom and gloom 6 weeks ago. Yes the inconsistency is frustrating, but at least we wont be battling for survival. We will have some fantastic wins eg. Swansea and millwall and some annoying losses eg. Preston and bristol. But at least this is a lot better than the last 2 seasons. Wont all happen at once but with CC at the helm, it's looking great Of those I’d say only Wallace and Lolley we let go. The rest were either sold for good money or would’ve been too expensive to buy/keep. I’d argue we gave Wallace and Lolley more than enough opportunities too, they just didn’t click with us for whatever reason, manager, style, personal reasons etc etc...
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Nov 5, 2020 12:08:35 GMT 1
Of those I’d say only Wallace and Lolley we let go. The rest were either sold for good money or would’ve been too expensive to buy/keep. I’d argue we gave Wallace and Lolley more than enough opportunities too, they just didn’t click with us for whatever reason, manager, style, personal reasons etc etc... Agreed. Should have loaned Lolley really but that might not have worked for him - would say he’s the only clanger that we’ve made. The OP made it sound like we’ve discarded loads of very good players for nothing in return. The sales of Smithies, Rhodes contributed to building the promotion winning team!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2020 11:23:11 GMT 1
He will be backed but wanted time to assess what he'd got I seriously hope you are correct, It seems to me we have appointed a very good manager, but our squad is looking a little thin, perhaps you are right and he needed time to assess the squad properly, and said he could manage with the squad he inherited before rebuilding the team. What worries me , is that there will not be any real backing in January or the summer and he will be tempted to leave for one of our rivals who are prepared to spend on their squad . I am just speculating of course , but we have been in similar situations before , and I really have high expectations for CC, if we decide to back this guy to the hilt. Your expectations of PH are lacking though, despite him making this bold move. Lack of logic somewhere!
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Post by captainblack on Nov 7, 2020 11:41:33 GMT 1
I seriously hope you are correct, It seems to me we have appointed a very good manager, but our squad is looking a little thin, perhaps you are right and he needed time to assess the squad properly, and said he could manage with the squad he inherited before rebuilding the team. What worries me , is that there will not be any real backing in January or the summer and he will be tempted to leave for one of our rivals who are prepared to spend on their squad . I am just speculating of course , but we have been in similar situations before , and I really have high expectations for CC, if we decide to back this guy to the hilt. Your expectations of PH are lacking though, despite him making this bold move. Lack of logic somewhere! I accept that its up to PH to back Carlos , will he ? I would like to think he would , seeing that we are performing reasonably well. I am not in the "know" and do not have a clue on our financial situation, but if there is cash for new players I would hope we would spend some in January. I was concerned at the start of the season that we were going to struggle this season, however things look far rosier than I expected , we seem tantalisingly close to having a really decent season if we invest in some players, will it happen, I hope so, but who knows!
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