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Post by boooothy on Jan 17, 2021 10:25:54 GMT 1
The commentary on ifollow gave a little insight into why we want Holmes. They talked about patterns to get the ball out from the back, passing round the press to get to the halfway line.
The bit i found interesting was the comment that Carlos then likes us to drive/run with the ball rather than always look for a pass. I can see that that is something Holmes can certainly do.
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Post by midlander on Jan 17, 2021 11:20:11 GMT 1
The commentary on ifollow gave a little insight into why we want Holmes. They talked about patterns to get the ball out from the back, passing round the press to get to the halfway line. The bit i found interesting was the comment that Carlos then likes us to drive/run with the ball rather than always look for a pass. I can see that that is something Holmes can certainly do. I picked up on that as well. Was a really interesting commentary in parts yesterday and also whilst keeping up with play and describing the action as it happened. Something which Oggy is fundamentally incapable of doing.
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Post by boooothy on Jan 17, 2021 11:33:40 GMT 1
The commentary on ifollow gave a little insight into why we want Holmes. They talked about patterns to get the ball out from the back, passing round the press to get to the halfway line. The bit i found interesting was the comment that Carlos then likes us to drive/run with the ball rather than always look for a pass. I can see that that is something Holmes can certainly do. I picked up on that as well. Was a really interesting commentary in parts yesterday and also whilst keeping up with play and describing the action as it happened. Something which Oggy is fundamentally incapable of doing. I’m not having a go at Oggy as radio commentary is very different to TV and probably aimed at different folk but if i had a choice i’d certainly listen to the guy yesterday. If Oggy did purely the radio and he did the ifollow that would be good.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jan 17, 2021 12:45:01 GMT 1
I picked up on that as well. Was a really interesting commentary in parts yesterday and also whilst keeping up with play and describing the action as it happened. Something which Oggy is fundamentally incapable of doing. I’m not having a go at Oggy as radio commentary is very different to TV and probably aimed at different folk but if i had a choice i’d certainly listen to the guy yesterday. If Oggy did purely the radio and he did the ifollow that would be good. Which commentary was it? Did Radio Leeds not do the iFollow yesterday?
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 17, 2021 12:55:46 GMT 1
How have you barely seen or heard of someone who played for us less than 5 years and has played regularly in the Championship for the past 3 seasons? Explain that please. No preconceived thoughts on the signing and yet you've gone on the forum and picked out all the bad comments about him and ignored all the good ones? There was a 6 page thread on him on their forum and not one of them pages was as bad as you made out if you read them subjectively so why did you just pick out the negatives? Explain that please. Saying he's a better winger than CM isn't negative. Saying he puts the effort in and is a good guy isn't a negative. Saying he isn't physical is neither here nor there, you don't have to be physical to play football (Aguero, Sterling etc) No I didn't trawl through every comment on every Derby forum and make a statistical analysis about it. You picked these comments out as negative. You interpreted them that way. You attacked me for something you've thought but I've not written I don't live in Huddersfield and haven't for 13 years, over the past few years suddenly they've become accessible to watch again. I don't watch Derby play regularly, do you? I've answered all your questions, but you haven't answered mine. So explain that bolded statement please. Not wanting to take this thread even more off-piste, but when we talk about the lack of strength in players like Holmes, we get some odd comparisons. Aguero is short, but he's broad, one of his legs probably has the circumference of both of Holmes' 😄 I'd go as far to say one of Aguero's strengths is his strength.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jan 17, 2021 13:47:10 GMT 1
I’m not having a go at Oggy as radio commentary is very different to TV and probably aimed at different folk but if i had a choice i’d certainly listen to the guy yesterday. If Oggy did purely the radio and he did the ifollow that would be good. Which commentary was it? Did Radio Leeds not do the iFollow yesterday? It was David Threlfall-Sykes (Marketing & Comms Director) with Leigh Bromby summarising.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 14:13:19 GMT 1
Which commentary was it? Did Radio Leeds not do the iFollow yesterday? It was David Threlfall-Sykes (Marketing & Comms Director) with Leigh Bromby summarising. they did a good and informative commentary
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jan 17, 2021 16:17:18 GMT 1
Saying he's a better winger than CM isn't negative. Saying he puts the effort in and is a good guy isn't a negative. Saying he isn't physical is neither here nor there, you don't have to be physical to play football (Aguero, Sterling etc) No I didn't trawl through every comment on every Derby forum and make a statistical analysis about it. You picked these comments out as negative. You interpreted them that way. You attacked me for something you've thought but I've not written I don't live in Huddersfield and haven't for 13 years, over the past few years suddenly they've become accessible to watch again. I don't watch Derby play regularly, do you? I've answered all your questions, but you haven't answered mine. So explain that bolded statement please. Not wanting to take this thread even more off-piste, but when we talk about the lack of strength in players like Holmes, we get some odd comparisons. Aguero is short, but he's broad, one of his legs probably has the circumference of both of Holmes' 😄 I'd go as far to say one of Aguero's strengths is his strength. Have you seen pictures of Duane Holmes? If he had a cape he would look like a super hero! He is broader than Broadway!
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Post by digs on Jan 17, 2021 16:40:02 GMT 1
I'd be more excited at Holmes coming back than Danny Ward,he's a tidy player
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 17:07:53 GMT 1
It was David Threlfall-Sykes (Marketing & Comms Director) with Leigh Bromby summarising. they did a good and informative commentary Yes I thought they were good especially when it’s not his chosen profession. Not afraid to be critical either, poor passing was often highlighted.
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 17, 2021 17:11:01 GMT 1
Didn’t rate him when he was with us before, seemed far too easily knocked of the ball. However whenever I saw him in that decent Derby team a couple of years back he looked to have improved his strength and looked a much better player. Happy to trust Carlos if he feels he’s who we need.
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Post by Amigo on Jan 17, 2021 17:56:03 GMT 1
How have you barely seen or heard of someone who played for us less than 5 years and has played regularly in the Championship for the past 3 seasons? Explain that please. No preconceived thoughts on the signing and yet you've gone on the forum and picked out all the bad comments about him and ignored all the good ones? There was a 6 page thread on him on their forum and not one of them pages was as bad as you made out if you read them subjectively so why did you just pick out the negatives? Explain that please. Saying he's a better winger than CM isn't negative. Saying he puts the effort in and is a good guy isn't a negative. Saying he isn't physical is neither here nor there, you don't have to be physical to play football (Aguero, Sterling etc) No I didn't trawl through every comment on every Derby forum and make a statistical analysis about it. You picked these comments out as negative. You interpreted them that way. You attacked me for something you've thought but I've not written I don't live in Huddersfield and haven't for 13 years, over the past few years suddenly they've become accessible to watch again. I don't watch Derby play regularly, do you? I've answered all your questions, but you haven't answered mine. So explain that bolded statement please. You've made a few comments on other threads as well that make it seem like you don't want him or he wouldn't be up to scratch yet you haven't seen him play for us or anyone else? He's not a better winger than in the centre if you'd seen him you'd know that without going off possibly 1 comment (I couldn't find it) from a Derby fan. The majority said they'd be sad to see him go yet you said they'd be happy for him to leave.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 17, 2021 18:43:20 GMT 1
Someone's been having fun on Holmes wiki page
3ft 5inch Duane Holmes was one of the first casualties of David Wagners Huddersfield revolution. Dave Wag, as he was affectionately known throughout the sprawling Kirklees metropolis, persevered with the diminutive, swashbuckling, wing wizard. But Dave Wag ultimately failed to get an end result or contain the wet look bubble perm from the promising youngster. But King Carlos is now at the helm, and his brand of cavalier, all out attacking football is calling for Duane Holmes to come home. Simon Baldry, Chris Billy, Rodney Rowe could all be next...
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Post by durhamterrier on Jan 17, 2021 19:09:14 GMT 1
Holmes was always one of the players I was a bit gutted we let go, along with Lolley and Wells. The sort of players who had that pace and creativity to change games - especially how we play now. We miss that at the moment.
Do I think he alone will change our fortunes? No but I do think alongside a few other acquisitions in Jan and summer he’d be a shrewd piece of business going into next season .
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 17, 2021 19:15:58 GMT 1
Rooney said he isn't in the squad at the moment because he isn't putting in the work in training /
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Post by crux on Jan 17, 2021 19:25:38 GMT 1
Rooney said he isn't in the squad at the moment because he isn't putting in the work in training / Or, he's not agreed a new contract so I've been told not to pick him as we need to sell him for something now - if he leaves for nothing in the summer it utterly fucks up our dodgy FFP accounting for players.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 17, 2021 19:42:19 GMT 1
Rooney said he isn't in the squad at the moment because he isn't putting in the work in training / Whereas only afew days ago when pressed on Holmes he described him as a 'fantastic football player' & said now he's permanent manager he'd be sitting down with him to discuss his future. No mention of him not 'putting it in' in training then? Sounds more like he's sat down with Holmes & didn't like what he had to say to me. footballleagueworld.co.uk/wayne-rooney-speaks-out-on-26-year-olds-potential-derby-county-exit/
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Post by Dan on Jan 17, 2021 20:02:03 GMT 1
Agreed a three and a half year deal...
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Post by wigster on Jan 17, 2021 20:03:51 GMT 1
According to the Examiner we have to come to an agreement to stop paying Eiting, or move players on before we can make room on our wage bill for Holmes. Seems to sum up Huddersfield Town 2021.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 20:16:42 GMT 1
According to the Examiner we have to come to an agreement to stop paying Eiting, or move players on before we can make room on our wage bill for Holmes. Seems to sum up Huddersfield Town 2021. So we knacker Eiting but don't want to pay for it? I'd totally understand if Ajax told us to high fook off.
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Post by wigster on Jan 17, 2021 20:22:35 GMT 1
According to the Examiner we have to come to an agreement to stop paying Eiting, or move players on before we can make room on our wage bill for Holmes. Seems to sum up Huddersfield Town 2021. So we knacker Eiting but don't want to pay for it? I'd totally understand if Ajax told us to high fook off. When I quoted the Examiner I didn't mean that we weren't going to carry on paying Eiting, just apparently hoping to come to an agreememt with Ajax about it. I would certainly agree that Ajax may not be too happy about certain things ...
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Post by huddersfc on Jan 17, 2021 20:34:37 GMT 1
According to the Examiner we have to come to an agreement to stop paying Eiting, or move players on before we can make room on our wage bill for Holmes. Seems to sum up Huddersfield Town 2021. Lets cross our fingers that Ajax wont come to an agreement with us then.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 20:40:20 GMT 1
Agreed a three and a half year deal... think he is ahead of himself but maynard blue may know
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jan 17, 2021 21:39:30 GMT 1
According to the Examiner we have to come to an agreement to stop paying Eiting, or move players on before we can make room on our wage bill for Holmes. Seems to sum up Huddersfield Town 2021. We’ve got rid of half of our squad and filled it with youngsters, but yeah let’s still have to make room for a player. I despair. Our club is being royally fucked in the a-hole
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 17, 2021 21:42:14 GMT 1
According to the Examiner we have to come to an agreement to stop paying Eiting, or move players on before we can make room on our wage bill for Holmes. Seems to sum up Huddersfield Town 2021. So we knacker Eiting but don't want to pay for it? I'd totally understand if Ajax told us to high fook off. My understanding is that if we were paying him, it's our medical team that looks after him, or the loan can be terminated and he goes back to Ajax's medical team instead. Either way, I doubt Ajax will be too keen to loan us anyone else in the near future.
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 17, 2021 21:47:51 GMT 1
It’s been said already on the thread but forget about the young lad that we let go. Carlos in pre-season reached out to Mbenza due to his attributes and that he knew there was a player in there that fit the mould that we need. Holmes has a turn of pace, can spot a pass and is good with the ball at his feet - Carlos will look at that and think that he will do a job in the middle, probably at the head of the midfield 3. His attributes are pretty much exactly what we thought we were getting with Pritchard. Getting a player relatively cheap, coming up to the prime years. Give the lad a chance. If we were going in for Tom Lawrence, for example, they’d be probably no complaints even though would cost a shed load more in fee, wages and no more of a guarantee he’d do anymore than Holmes could. I get the point you're making but there would be from me!
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Post by terriers2000 on Jan 17, 2021 21:53:01 GMT 1
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Post by bblueterrier on Jan 17, 2021 22:18:32 GMT 1
Heard a swap with Pritchard has been discussed. Both out of contract at the end of the season. Would suit both parties. The swap didn't happen as Pritchard wants a move back down south but the Holmes deal will be confirmed in the next few days along with Keogh.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 17, 2021 22:43:06 GMT 1
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Post by tepidterrier on Jan 17, 2021 23:02:27 GMT 1
turned it down as it might've involved him having to play football
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