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Post by artysid on Apr 19, 2021 16:27:44 GMT 1
Yes the problem with football at all levels isn't the lack of income coming into the game, it's the excessive expenditure, primarily on wages for bang average players and hanger on'ers like agents.
A 4th division club getting 5,000 fans at £20 per game for 22 games receives £2.2million per annum without any other income.
Pay 24 players £40,000 a year and that's £960k expenditure.
Obviously there's other expenditure to account for but there's other income opportunities too. It's just a fag packet exercise.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Apr 19, 2021 17:55:15 GMT 1
Yes the problem with football at all levels isn't the lack of income coming into the game, it's the excessive expenditure, primarily on wages for bang average players and hanger on'ers like agents. A 4th division club getting 5,000 fans at £20 per game for 22 games receives £2.2million per annum without any other income. Pay 24 players £40,000 a year and that's £960k expenditure. Obviously there's other expenditure to account for but there's other income opportunities too. It's just a fag packet exercise. We’re singing from the same hymn sheet, long before Super League hit the headlines I’ve argued that wages in football can not be justified, you can’t blame a player for accepting them, who wouldn’t? (As a former HGV driver the idea of saying to my boss “No don’t be silly, £500 a week is plenty, I’m not worth £15,000 a week is ludicrous in many ways !!) I know Gordon Taylor at the PFA likes to defend his members saying it’s an uncertain and a short career. I say so fkin what ? The vast majority of us change at some point, I went from working in an office to driving articulated wagons and the vast majority of us have to hold down a job for around 45 years, not 15. With all due respect why should say Ashley Cole be able to retire at 35 when one of his England predecessors, Ray Wilson with the added benefit of a World Cup Winners medal in his pocket spend 30 years working as a funeral director when he hung his boots up ? The other thing that bugs me with the wages is the fact that probably more than 99% of professional players would chose to remain as a player rather trying to seek fame and fortune elsewhere if they were getting paid £50,000 a year rather than a week - obviously all countries would have to get on board for a sensible wage to return. There might be a few but it would be a few, Craig Johnston developed Predator Boots, Graham Le Saux used to read the Gaurdian but I would think given the choice between stacking the shelves at Lidl or playing football the likes of Wayne Rooney would rather play football (with all due respect, he may have a phd and a great understanding of astrophysics but you take my point)
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Post by brighousebandbred on Apr 19, 2021 17:56:31 GMT 1
Was going to buy a ST anyway, but the news of the plastic rich six possibly fu@@ing off as confirmed I’m definitely buying one, not been as excited about footy for ages, couldn’t think of anything better than losing the clubs that are happily destroying our beautiful should be competitive sport.
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Post by morleyterrier on Apr 24, 2021 16:34:34 GMT 1
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
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Post by SW6 on Apr 24, 2021 18:04:50 GMT 1
In my parallel universe..
The phone lines are constantly engaged, the online booking system has crashed, and the club have put a maximum of 4 season tickets per household in place. I can see this going to a ballot....when they are gone, they are gone!
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Post by sabailand on Apr 24, 2021 18:20:47 GMT 1
Im pissed off with the situation, but heres me thinking you stick with a club through thick and thin, i was miles out.
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Post by artysid on Apr 25, 2021 15:35:57 GMT 1
Just stuck on £20 at 40-1 for us to be relegated. Hope I lose, but if not pays for a couple of season tickets with a bit of spending money left over.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 25, 2021 15:53:58 GMT 1
Renewed my 3. Cant wait to start going to games again. It'll be the championship but that wouldnt change if it was League 1.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Apr 26, 2021 12:08:02 GMT 1
Just stuck on £20 at 40-1 for us to be relegated. Hope I lose, but if not pays for a couple of season tickets with a bit of spending money left over. BetVictor have us at 66/1
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Post by digs on Apr 26, 2021 12:13:09 GMT 1
Just stuck on £20 at 40-1 for us to be relegated. Hope I lose, but if not pays for a couple of season tickets with a bit of spending money left over. I've a double with Bournemouth to go up too
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Post by durhamterrier on Apr 28, 2021 9:48:15 GMT 1
Season ticket purchased . What else am I going to do on a cold wet Tuesday in December as Hull City battle back from 2-0 down to earn a draw ?
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Post by townrwe on Apr 28, 2021 10:42:31 GMT 1
Season ticket purchased . What else am I going to do on a cold wet Tuesday in December as Hull City battle back from 2-0 down to earn a draw ? Watch it on iplayer when the countries back in full lockdown?
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Post by artysid on Apr 28, 2021 15:05:17 GMT 1
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Post by York Terrier on Apr 28, 2021 15:18:05 GMT 1
Season ticket purchased . What else am I going to do on a cold wet Tuesday in December as Hull City battle back from 2-0 down to earn a draw ? Watch it on iplayer when the countries back in full lockdown? I just asked about renewing my season tickets as I have not bothered with I Player so I have only watched Town on Sky this season. The lady in the ticket office told me she can not just roll my tickets over to next season and the board has to decide if that can be done. I am starting to despair at the total lack of empathy with the supporters, given the season we have just had you would have thought the clubs administrators would have ensure all season ticket angles had been covered and supporters such as us would not be left wondering if the club is simply just going to take the money and run. The only word I can think of is SHAMBOLIC
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Post by sabailand on Apr 28, 2021 15:22:59 GMT 1
Watch it on iplayer when the countries back in full lockdown? I just asked about renewing my season tickets as I have not bothered with I Player so I have only watched Town on Sky this season. The lady in the ticket office told me she can not just roll my tickets over to next season and the board has to decide if that can be done. I am starting to despair at the total lack of empathy with the supporters, given the season we have just had you would have thought the clubs administrators would have ensure all season ticket angles had been covered and supporters such as us would not be left wondering if the club is simply just going to take the money and run. The only word I can think of is SHAMBOLIC To be fair fans did have the option of being reimbursed, personally i chose not to request a refund and i watched the home games on iplayer.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Apr 28, 2021 15:25:23 GMT 1
BetVictor have us at 66/1 100-1 @ betfred now. £5 pays for two season tickets In all seriousness does anyone know what the odds were when Birmingham sent us down, I know when we had the love in with Barnsley at Peterborough’s expense all our car stopped at Mirfield before the game to bet on us being relegated, hand on heart in my case anyway it was more of a case of guaranteeing our safety rather than trying to soften the blow. If you can get 100/1 now I’m guessing Birmingham would have been 40 or 50/1 ? Can anyone enlighten me ?
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Apr 28, 2021 16:06:11 GMT 1
100-1 @ betfred now. £5 pays for two season tickets In all seriousness does anyone know what the odds were when Birmingham sent us down, I know when we had the love in with Barnsley at Peterborough’s expense all our car stopped at Mirfield before the game to bet on us being relegated, hand on heart in my case anyway it was more of a case of guaranteeing our safety rather than trying to soften the blow. If you can get 100/1 now I’m guessing Birmingham would have been 40 or 50/1 ? Can anyone enlighten me ? It wasn't that big I remember it only been 10/1.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 16:42:28 GMT 1
I just asked about renewing my season tickets as I have not bothered with I Player so I have only watched Town on Sky this season. The lady in the ticket office told me she can not just roll my tickets over to next season and the board has to decide if that can be done. I am starting to despair at the total lack of empathy with the supporters, given the season we have just had you would have thought the clubs administrators would have ensure all season ticket angles had been covered and supporters such as us would not be left wondering if the club is simply just going to take the money and run. The only word I can think of is SHAMBOLIC To be fair fans did have the option of being reimbursed, personally i chose not to request a refund and i watched the home games on iplayer. Indeed...in simple terms the poster above is asking for a refund, which means they're not a current season ticket holder...so they'll have to pay an extra £50 to buy one, when that window opens in June or July or whenever it is...and join the queue along with anyone else who is buying who might get in ahead of them and buy 'their' old seat that (if they refund/cancel this season) they last had for the 2019-20 season. The ticket office person can't just break the rules without getting approval and give someone a £50 discount! I'd imagine this will quietly go the way of someone enraged being offered a ticket at the season ticket holders renewal price and get to keep their seats, and not coming back to say the club have done them right!
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Post by araucaria on Apr 28, 2021 17:00:10 GMT 1
In all seriousness does anyone know what the odds were when Birmingham sent us down, I know when we had the love in with Barnsley at Peterborough’s expense all our car stopped at Mirfield before the game to bet on us being relegated, hand on heart in my case anyway it was more of a case of guaranteeing our safety rather than trying to soften the blow. If you can get 100/1 now I’m guessing Birmingham would have been 40 or 50/1 ? Can anyone enlighten me ? It wasn't that big I remember it only been 10/1. I had an accumulator on Birmingham, Portsmouth and Palace to win, purely to jinx any chance of relegation and got about 15-1. Brum were 5-2 and the others both about evens. In 2013 my son used a good number of free bets so that he stood to win almost £1,000 had we gone down. He was glad that he jinxed it, or so he says.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Apr 28, 2021 17:26:29 GMT 1
It wasn't that big I remember it only been 10/1. I had an accumulator on Birmingham, Portsmouth and Palace to win, purely to jinx any chance of relegation and got about 15-1. Brum were 5-2 and the others both about evens. In 2013 my son used a good number of free bets so that he stood to win almost £1,000 had we gone down. He was glad that he jinxed it, or so he says. So my 40/1 was way too high, at best 20/1, in relation to our current plight I’ve seen anything from 60 to 100/1 or from 3 to 5 times less likely, if you support any other team you are safe but it’s Town......
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Post by York Terrier on Apr 28, 2021 17:52:03 GMT 1
I just asked about renewing my season tickets as I have not bothered with I Player so I have only watched Town on Sky this season. The lady in the ticket office told me she can not just roll my tickets over to next season and the board has to decide if that can be done. I am starting to despair at the total lack of empathy with the supporters, given the season we have just had you would have thought the clubs administrators would have ensure all season ticket angles had been covered and supporters such as us would not be left wondering if the club is simply just going to take the money and run. The only word I can think of is SHAMBOLIC To be fair fans did have the option of being reimbursed, personally i chose not to request a refund and i watched the home games on iplayer. They also said you could not have your money back and roll over the season ticket.
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Post by York Terrier on Apr 28, 2021 17:56:03 GMT 1
To be fair fans did have the option of being reimbursed, personally i chose not to request a refund and i watched the home games on iplayer. Indeed...in simple terms the poster above is asking for a refund, which means they're not a current season ticket holder...so they'll have to pay an extra £50 to buy one, when that window opens in June or July or whenever it is...and join the queue along with anyone else who is buying who might get in ahead of them and buy 'their' old seat that (if they refund/cancel this season) they last had for the 2019-20 season. The ticket office person can't just break the rules without getting approval and give someone a £50 discount! I'd imagine this will quietly go the way of someone enraged being offered a ticket at the season ticket holders renewal price and get to keep their seats, and not coming back to say the club have done them right! What are you talking about? I have two season tickets which are still current.I did not ask for my money back but did not use the I player service this season and on this basis my tickets should just be renewed for next season at no cost.
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Post by benhomly on Apr 28, 2021 18:19:33 GMT 1
Indeed...in simple terms the poster above is asking for a refund, which means they're not a current season ticket holder...so they'll have to pay an extra £50 to buy one, when that window opens in June or July or whenever it is...and join the queue along with anyone else who is buying who might get in ahead of them and buy 'their' old seat that (if they refund/cancel this season) they last had for the 2019-20 season. The ticket office person can't just break the rules without getting approval and give someone a £50 discount! I'd imagine this will quietly go the way of someone enraged being offered a ticket at the season ticket holders renewal price and get to keep their seats, and not coming back to say the club have done them right! What are you talking about? I have two season tickets which are still current.I did not ask for my money back but did not use the I player service this season and on this basis my tickets should just be renewed for next season at no cost. But I thought it was clear that if you left your money in this season you would get a season ticket for the next 3 seasons at the same price as this season. That’s what I’ve done and that’s what I’m expecting. I too have not used I follow.
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Post by sabailand on Apr 28, 2021 18:22:18 GMT 1
Indeed...in simple terms the poster above is asking for a refund, which means they're not a current season ticket holder...so they'll have to pay an extra £50 to buy one, when that window opens in June or July or whenever it is...and join the queue along with anyone else who is buying who might get in ahead of them and buy 'their' old seat that (if they refund/cancel this season) they last had for the 2019-20 season. The ticket office person can't just break the rules without getting approval and give someone a £50 discount! I'd imagine this will quietly go the way of someone enraged being offered a ticket at the season ticket holders renewal price and get to keep their seats, and not coming back to say the club have done them right! What are you talking about? I have two season tickets which are still current.I did not ask for my money back but did not use the I player service this season and on this basis my tickets should just be renewed for next season at no cost. In an ideal world that would be great, but as i mentioned earlier we had the choice of a refund, for those that didnt request a refund it was up to them to decide wether they watched it on iplayer or not, i knew fully that i wouldnt get any money back through the choice i made.
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Post by boooothy on Apr 28, 2021 18:23:15 GMT 1
In all seriousness does anyone know what the odds were when Birmingham sent us down, I know when we had the love in with Barnsley at Peterborough’s expense all our car stopped at Mirfield before the game to bet on us being relegated, hand on heart in my case anyway it was more of a case of guaranteeing our safety rather than trying to soften the blow. If you can get 100/1 now I’m guessing Birmingham would have been 40 or 50/1 ? Can anyone enlighten me ? It wasn't that big I remember it only been 10/1. What’s easy to forget it wasn’t just that Saturday that had to go horribly wrong. We battered wimbledon i think the Tuesday before but only drew. The odds were about 60/1 at one point.
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Post by boooothy on Apr 28, 2021 18:27:13 GMT 1
There was certainly an option for the club to keep your money and get a “free” ticket next season.
They just took your ifollow access away.
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Apr 28, 2021 18:37:43 GMT 1
It wasn't that big I remember it only been 10/1. What’s easy to forget it wasn’t just that Saturday that had to go horribly wrong. We battered wimbledon i think the Tuesday before but only drew. The odds were about 60/1 at one point. Was it a Sunday?
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Post by boooothy on Apr 28, 2021 18:39:26 GMT 1
What’s easy to forget it wasn’t just that Saturday that had to go horribly wrong. We battered wimbledon i think the Tuesday before but only drew. The odds were about 60/1 at one point. Was it a Sunday? You’re probably right. What an awful day.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Apr 28, 2021 18:48:04 GMT 1
It wasn't that big I remember it only been 10/1. What’s easy to forget it wasn’t just that Saturday that had to go horribly wrong. We battered wimbledon i think the Tuesday before but only drew. The odds were about 60/1 at one point. We got a last minute winner at home to QPR ( Delroy or Gallen ?) which sent them down and took us out of the bottom 3 Then we went to WBA, who made the play offs and drew Then we went to Wimbledon, who just missed out on the play offs and Drew Then we had Birmingham at home who were in the play offs and the rest as they say is history!
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Post by York Terrier on Apr 28, 2021 18:59:46 GMT 1
What are you talking about? I have two season tickets which are still current.I did not ask for my money back but did not use the I player service this season and on this basis my tickets should just be renewed for next season at no cost. But I thought it was clear that if you left your money in this season you would get a season ticket for the next 3 seasons at the same price as this season. That’s what I’ve done and that’s what I’m expecting. I too have not used I follow. You are correct and I agreed not to ask for a refund and did not want to watch I Player it’s very simple the cost of our season tickets is fixed for 3 years as you said and next seasons tickets should be provided at no cost. This is the same for every COVID purchase, though it sounds like some people think Huddersfield Town are not a business bound by COVID rules. I am not certain what possesses some to say a business has not supplied the product that has been paid for and therefore can keep your money. It’s like saying you paid for a holiday in Spain but we offered you a holiday in Blackpool and if you don’t accept we are keeping your money.
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